Penn State Football

[SmoothPancakes]

Well, looking at the graphic on the Big Ten Network, Wisconsin just got handed the Leaders Division for the next couple years. With Ohio State and Penn State ineligible, no way in hell are Indiana, Illinois and Purdue winning the division.

[Kwizzy]

How does disabling the football program really make those victims feel better?

I would think that knowing that a big part of the reason that they continued to be abused (penn st football's importance) being slapped hard would feel pretty good to them JB.

[psuexv]

I would think that knowing that a big part of the reason that they continued to be abused (penn st football's importance) being slapped hard would feel pretty good to them JB.

What about the fact that many of them were still attending football games up until all of this broke? And one of the victims attended games with Jerry as recently as a year or so ago, because he wanted to go to games that bad. Not saying I disagree with the sanctions, just stating a fact. I honestly don't know what those victims are thinking.

[souljahbill]

Yeah, I don't want to put my thoughts into their heads but I would think that Sandusky being in jail for life, all the accomplices getting tar and feathered, and 60 mil for charities directed other victims would be good enough.

[JBHuskers]

I would think that knowing that a big part of the reason that they continued to be abused (penn st football's importance) being slapped hard would feel pretty good to them JB.

Yeah but hurting their revenue actually prevents the university from helping the victims even more.

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[skipwondah33]

Damn that new coach must be pissed.

Didn't he leave New England for this job?

[psusnoop]

Damn that new coach must be pissed.

Didn't he leave New England for this job?

Yes he was the OC at NE last year.

[psusnoop]

Thanks Skip for asking something I could answer without popping a blood vessel

[psuexv]

In regards to the death penalty, I think this works

[psusnoop]

[Kwizzy]

I guess what I should've said was: "the argument could be made that..." You're right though, anyone who speculates as to what this does or doesn't do for the victims is out of line. No one knows what they feel but them.

[skipwondah33]

Thanks Skip for asking something I could answer without popping a blood vessel

Yeah figured I'd lighten it up a little

[psusnoop]

Write something nice.......click cancel......write something mean spirited....click cancel.......write something with a little of both.....click cancel...... I feel this urge to hit cancel again but fuck it

[psuexv]

I guess what I should've said was: "the argument could be made that..." You're right though, anyone who speculates as to what this does or doesn't do for the victims is out of line. No one knows what they feel but them.

I understood what you meant. I was just stating that these were people that were still attending football games and in one case that we know about, attended games with the person that did this to him long after the abuse was done. Assumption here, but they love PSU football and hurting the program doesn't make them feel better.

[skipwondah33]

Could that Coach get out of his contract somehow if he wanted?

I mean no one could have predicted this but certainly they weren't being forthcoming with the possibility of something happening.

Even still were he to leave he would be screwed pretty much like those who would want to transfer this late in the game

[psuexv]

Could that Coach get out of his contract somehow if he wanted?

I mean no one could have predicted this but certainly they weren't being forthcoming with the possibility of something happening.

Even still were he to leave he would be screwed pretty much like those who would want to transfer this late in the game

Word is he does not have an out in his contract for NCAA sanctions. Not sure if he has some other out that he could use, but as it looks now he is staying with the program for at least a year. He also publicly stated today that he is here for the long term(we'll see).

IMO though, he might as well stay. He gains some good head coaching experience and if he losses, nobody will really hold it against him with the sanctions. If he puts a winning program on the board, even 7 to 8 wins, he'll look really good.

[JBHuskers]

He's said that he wants to rebuild the program. I doubt he'll go anywhere.

[psusnoop]

Could that Coach get out of his contract somehow if he wanted?

I mean no one could have predicted this but certainly they weren't being forthcoming with the possibility of something happening.

Even still were he to leave he would be screwed pretty much like those who would want to transfer this late in the game

He has said that he knew something like this was possible, just today again as well. He seems to be saying lots of the right things (not that hard given the circumstances) but time will tell. I've always felt Bill O'Brien was only here for 3 or so years anyways but if he has a decent year this year it may only be 1.

I've heard before any of this ever come down (the sanctions and freeh report) that at least 1 assistant coach wants to get back into the NFL.

I can see some FR or SO leaving, but for a JR or SR right now it would be really tough. They still have the option to play here and get a great education (though some would lead you to believe that to not be the case anymore).

[skipwondah33]

Word is he does not have an out in his contract for NCAA sanctions. Not sure if he has some other out that he could use, but as it looks now he is staying with the program for at least a year. He also publicly stated today that he is here for the long term(we'll see).

IMO though, he might as well stay. He gains some good head coaching experience and if he losses, nobody will really hold it against him with the sanctions. If he puts a winning program on the board, even 7 to 8 wins, he'll look really good.

All very true.

But this job wasn't suppose to be a "stepping stone" sort of speak. This is/was a premier job in college football. Especially coming from the Patriots in the NFL. Not like he had to go from the University of Buffalo lol

Like you said though it is a win-win situation on the surface I would imagine.

[skipwondah33]

He's said that he wants to rebuild the program. I doubt he'll go anywhere.

Well it definitely will be a true rebuilding project now