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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    even if he didnt morph through, he was still behind the WR ( he was in front to the left but still behind the receiver) why would a QB throw a ball leading to the receivers left moving direction way in front of him? he would/should be throwing to the receivers left shoulder and the defender shouldnt be in position for a play ( I am not turning into the guys who knock the game with ridiculous minutia, I am just saying what I think I see)
    The qb threw the ball exactly where you would on a drag route however, it was a bad read. The defender was playing that drag perfectly. If he wanted to hit a drag route he should have hit the first guy through, who's defender was trailing.

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    Jeez, Bama's defense is LEGIT even on Varsity. Just lost my first game since playing, 14-6. Bama forced 3 INTs, and my running game was generally ineffective. Did have a couple big plays through the air though, but I could never really get anything going in the passing game. Bama seemed to get a legit pass rush, and I definitely felt uncomfortable in the pocket, which is the reason I hurried so many of my throws and ended up getting picked off 3 times.

    The best part is, NONE of the moments felt cheesy. I felt like I was in a typical LSU/Bama slugfest. For the most part, yards on the ground were hard to come by and the better QB made the difference. I can only imagine how tough they'll be on All-Pro and Heisman, as well as other great defenses in the game.

    Also, wanted to let you guys know (for those who care), in order to unlock Jim Plunkett, Tim Brown, and Herschel Walker, you gotta play as the three home teams. You may have to exit out of the DYNASTY mode (not the demo) after each game as well. Playing as the away team didn't unlock em for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmith03 View Post
    You can't throw right at a moving target. That's common sense. If a WR is moving forward at a high speed, and you tried to throw right at him, the WR would overrun the ball. Now, he could've throw behind the WR for sure. The point is, in NCAA 12 the WR would've most likely did a speed burst forward to catch that ball, or the defender would've done the same thing. He simply made a bad throw and the game didn't bail him out. The defender made a play he was capable of making because he was ahead of the WR, meaning he had better position to get to where the ball was going.
    i'm fully aware of physics dude, QBs can still throw at a moving target without throwing that far ahead or behind them though.

    but I still say he morphed

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    I think I'm gonna try to get some video of the top plays from games going forward if I can. Idk how I would upload them though. It would be from my phone but it seems to get good quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmith03 View Post
    I think I'm gonna try to get some video of the top plays from games going forward if I can. Idk how I would upload them though. It would be from my phone but it seems to get good quality.
    No offense man, but please don't. It's NOT good quality; it never is.

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    Can somone who has the demo do me a favor?
    -Out of a dime or Nickel formation.
    -Against a 3WR formation.
    -Call a zone blitz where the nickel/dime back blitz.

    What I want to know is:
    -Say it's trips right(with a TE, slot, & another WR) & the nickel back is supposed to blitz from the left.
    -Will the nickel come over to cover the slot WR giving his blitz assignment to the LB on the left side? OR
    -does the Nickel stay on the left and blitz leaving the ROLB to line up over the WR? OR
    -Does the Nickel move to the right side & blitz from there.

    Basically, I'm trying to determine if blitz assignments transfer like zone assignments do within the new alignment system. If it doesn't transfer the blitz assignment you will have to flip the play evrytime otherwise it'll be a dead giveaway.
    Last edited by Kwizzy; 06-06-2012 at 01:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    Can somone who has the demo do me a favor?
    -Out of a dime or Nickel formation.
    -Against a 3WR formation.
    -Call a zone blitz where the nickel/dime back blitz.

    What I want to know is:
    -Say it's trips right(with a TE, slot, & another WR) & the nickel back is supposed to blitz from the left.
    -Will the nickel come over to cover the slot WR giving his blitz assignment to the LB on the left side? OR
    -does the Nickel stay on the left and blitz leaving the ROLB to line up over the WR? OR
    -Does the Nickel move to the right side & blitz from there.

    Basically, I'm trying to determine if blitz assignments transfer like zone assignments do within the new alignment system. If it doesn't transfer the blitz assignment you will have to flip the play evrytime otherwise it'll be a dead giveaway.
    I'll go ahead and tell you now, I have done blitzes from these sets in this circumstance and I have not seen blitzing assignments change. The guy seems to stay in the same spot and blitz from that same spot. From what I can tell at least. I will search some more to double check, but I am pretty sure this is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    i'm fully aware of physics dude, QBs can still throw at a moving target without throwing that far ahead or behind them though.

    but I still say he morphed
    naw dude, not worth the time to obsess over it.
    and you need to understand, even though i know the games are trying to mimic some of what really happens in football,its still just one dimensional AI logic and only does one thing at a time.

    I'm amused by people who try to use real life examples to explain something when in real life there are way too many human/mental/physical reasons why something happened that AI cant account for or duplicate because at the end of the day its still just a video game. I just decided to belabor one thing I saw..but now i'm done and waiting for my ps3 demo like he rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    naw dude, not worth the time to obsess over it.
    and you need to understand, even though i know the games are trying to mimic some of what really happens in football,its still just one dimensional AI logic and only does one thing at a time.

    I'm amused by people who try to use real life examples to explain something when in real life there are way too many human/mental/physical reasons why something happened that AI cant account for or duplicate because at the end of the day its still just a video game. I just decided to belabor one thing I saw..but now i'm done and waiting for my ps3 demo like he rest
    Ummm Ram. Are you talking to yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beartide06 View Post
    I'll go ahead and tell you now, I have done blitzes from these sets in this circumstance and I have not seen blitzing assignments change. The guy seems to stay in the same spot and blitz from that same spot. From what I can tell at least. I will search some more to double check, but I am pretty sure this is the case.
    Ok thanks, realistically you'd probably want to flip it anyway to keep the pressure on the strong side but it would be nice to have the option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    No offense man, but please don't. It's NOT good quality; it never is.
    I thought about that but it looks pretty clear to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    Ok thanks, realistically you'd probably want to flip it anyway to keep the pressure on the strong side but it would be nice to have the option.
    You're welcome. Yeah, that is what I have been doing. I have been flipping the play pre-snap. It's not too much a problem really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSmith03 View Post
    I think I'm gonna try to get some video of the top plays from games going forward if I can. Idk how I would upload them though. It would be from my phone but it seems to get good quality.

    repeat LOL I quoted myself earlier by mistake

    naw dude, not worth the time to obsess over it.
    and you need to understand, even though i know the games are trying to mimic some of what really happens in football,its still just one dimensional AI logic and only does one thing at a time.

    I'm amused by people who try to use real life examples to explain something when in real life there are way too many human/mental/physical reasons why something happened that AI cant account for or duplicate because at the end of the day its still just a video game. I just decided to belabor one thing I saw..but now i'm done and waiting for my ps3 demo like the rest
    Last edited by ram29jackson; 06-06-2012 at 02:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beartide06 View Post
    You're welcome. Yeah, that is what I have been doing. I have been flipping the play pre-snap. It's not too much a problem really.
    Ideally it would flip the play for you automatically, but hopefully we remember to do so before it's obvious that we did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    repeat LOL I quoted myself earlier by mistake
    I was starting to worry. Ram has finally gone off the deep end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    Ideally it would flip the play for you automatically, but hopefully we remember to do so before it's obvious that we did.
    If only it was a perfect world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beartide06 View Post
    If only it were a perfect world!

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    So then wouldn't that apply to your idea that the QB should not have thrown the ball in front of the WR?

    Also, I'd record mainly to show off the best plays and so guys without the demo can see it in action. That is, if people want to see it. Doesn't matter to me. I have something I did quick (that screen I was talking about earllier) but idk if I'm gonna post it.
    Last edited by JSmith03; 06-06-2012 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I was starting to worry. Ram has finally gone off the deep end.
    Finally?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    LOL!

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