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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp View Post
    ucla doesnt deserve a top 75 ranking
    actually, the culture has changed in these few months.Mora is no joke..but UCLA has never been no Wyoming either. They are better then that. We'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    actually, the culture has changed in these few months.Mora is no joke..but UCLA has never been no Wyoming either. They are better then that. We'll see...
    compared to the weasel, its easy to make that claim.

    i've been a seahawks fan my whole life.....and mora was beyond terrible in his time as the head coach for em. he's got a good football mind, but he cannot, for the life of him, develop players and get them to consistantly play at a high level. will continue to beat the piss out of the baby blue bears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coogrfan View Post
    So, for the Defensive Backs we have:
    • One line about our draftees, going back to 1997
    • One line about 2006
    • One line about 2009
    • One line about 2010
    • Two lines about 2011
    • And only one line about 2012

    Sigh. I do love Phil's analysis, but ...........
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    And previews like that would pretty much be the reason why I haven't bought Phil Steele since probably 2005 or 2006. Basically the only reason I would buy PS, based on reading these team previews, would be the lineup/depth charts, and page two, all the stats. I'm a stats junkie so I love that, seeing the 10 years of stadium stats, 7 years of offensive and defensive stats, 2011 game by game stats, last 5 years of schedules/results. If Phil would put out a condensed version of his magazine with only the lineups/depth charts and all those stats on page 2, I would buy that every year.

    The position outlooks and Phil's Forecast section, where 90% of everything is talking about players for one, two, five years ago, etc, past seasons, past events, as well as having to practically be an Army Linguist/Cryptologist just to figure out what he is trying to say half the time (though I did somehow manage to decipher and understand what he was saying or trying to say maybe 65% of that OSU article on the fly while reading), I could do without all that stuff. Just give me the stats and lineups and I'll be happy.

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    It's all a complete waste of time...

    It's all catering to you poor fucks that can't live without some type of football stuff during the offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    It's all a complete waste of time...

    It's all catering to you poor fucks that can't live without some type of football stuff during the offseason.
    Do you need a hug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    So, for the Defensive Backs we have:
    • One line about our draftees, going back to 1997
    • One line about 2006
    • One line about 2009
    • One line about 2010
    • Two lines about 2011
    • And only one line about 2012

    Sigh. I do love Phil's analysis, but ...........
    Funny, I read OSU's and one other team and had the same reaction as you. Didn't bother with any others.

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    Rumors floating around that this is Maryland's new field.


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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Rumors floating around that this is Maryland's new field.

    Uh oh...hope Ram doesn't find this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Rumors floating around that this is Maryland's new field.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uh oh...hope Ram doesn't find this.
    I don't think he's really into the customizing fields, that's too manly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    I don't think he's really into the customizing fields, that's too manly.
    Ram already posted about this a LONG time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Ram already posted about this a LONG time ago.
    LOL, 11 days ago. Shows you how often I go into that thread

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    Alright, this topic has been literally raging all over the sports world today, especially on Mike and Mike and Colin Cowherd, and even in the regular news world, so time to start up the discussion here.

    UCLA and Sean 'Diddy' Combs' son.

    UCLA defends athletic scholarships

    Mo money, mo problems.

    As Justin Combs, the son of rap mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs, prepares to head to UCLA to play football for the Bruins next season, some are questioning whether the cornerback should pass on the $54,000 athletic scholarship awarded to him by the university because of his family's wealth.

    UCLA released a statement Wednesday explaining that athletic scholarships are not based on finances and do not rely on taxpayers' money. The University of California school system is currently facing financial problems.

    "Unlike need-based scholarships, athletic scholarships are awarded to students strictly on the basis of their athletic and academic ability -- not their financial need," the statement read. "Athletic scholarships, such as those awarded to football or basketball players, do not rely on state funds. Instead, these scholarships are entirely funded through UCLA Athletics ticket sales, corporate partnerships, media contracts and private donations from supporters.

    "Each year, UCLA awards the equivalent of approximately 285 full athletic scholarships to outstanding student-athletes. The scholarships are used by the UCLA Department of Intercollegiate Athletics to pay students' tuition and fees, as well as room and board. In this respect, UCLA is no different from the overwhelming majority of Division I institutions."

    Combs, a three-star recruit who chose the Bruins over Iowa, Virginia and Illinois, went to Iona Prep in New Rochelle, N.Y., and reportedly graduated with a 3.75 GPA. He helped lead the Gaels to the semifinals of the Catholic High School Athletic Association Class AA playoffs last season, primarily playing cornerback but also quarterbacking at times. The 5-foot-9, 175-pound corner had one interception and threw four touchdowns.

    Tweets on his account Wednesday seemingly responded to the dialogue regarding his athletic scholarship.

    "Regardless what circumstances are, I put that work in!!!! PERIOD," one tweet read.

    A later one added: "Regardless of what you do in life every1 is gonna have their own opinion. Stay focused, keep that tunnel vision & never 4get why u started."

    When reached Friday, Combs said he did not want to talk about his scholarship.

    His father, who could be seen at Iona Prep football games last season and even acted as the team's water boy during a game, is the richest rapper in the industry, with a net worth of $550 million as of April 2012, according to Forbes. When Combs turned 16 two years ago, his father bought him a $360,000 Maybach.

    When Combs committed to UCLA in November, his father was overcome with joy.

    "As a parent, today is one of the proudest moments of my life," Sean Combs said then in a statement released by DKC Public Relations. "This is everything a father could want for his son, for him to excel at what he loves to do and is truly passionate about. Justin is a shining example of what hard work, determination and a strong mentality can achieve. I am honored to call him my son and am happy that he is fulfilling his dream."

    Combs committed to UCLA in the middle of a coaching change, as the school had recently fired Rick Neuheisel. Jim Mora is the new coach.

    "It was like love at first sight when I visited there," Combs told ESPNNewYork.com. "I loved the whole tradition of UCLA and the school and the academics and just everything about it."
    Don't even think of going on the Mike and Mike Facebook page. I've been on there commenting off and on throughout the day and some of the people on there make my fucking head hurt.

    I'll post my thoughts on it all in a little bit after I get home from work, but figured may as well get the conversation started and see what others think, if we actually have some people with a brain on here or if it's more of the same dumbasses I've been reading responses from on the Mike and Mike Facebook page.

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    This is ridiculous. Wealthy kids get offered scholarships all the time. What about Pro athletes kids who get offered schollies? Maybe they don't have the money of Diddy but they've got plenty of it.
    Last edited by psuexv; 06-01-2012 at 03:34 PM.

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    God damn I fuckin' hate people.

    It's really this god damn simple:

    Did the kid earn the scholarship fair and square for his athletic abilities? No rules broken by giving the kid the scholarship (doctored SAT scores or some shit)?

    Then it's a non-issue. Rich kids get scholarships all the damn time. I'm pretty sure Carson Palmer's parents were fuckin' loaded and he got a full ride at USC.

    Maybe it is a good thing that a zombie apocalypse is coming because it's shit like this that makes me think we need a reset button cause humanity is fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    This is ridiculous. Wealthy kids get offered scholarships all the time. What about Pro athletes kids who get offered schollies? Maybe they don't have the money of Diddy but they've got plenty of it.
    Yeah, I don't hear about people saying that Barry Sanders Jr doesn't deserve a scholarship.

    If this was a need-based scholarship, well, no shit he shouldn't be getting it. But it's an athletic scholarship. Money has no factor there.

    Now, if he turns around and commits NCAA violations because his "family needed the money", then we've got a problem. And an answer for whether or not giving kids a little extra in their scholarship would make any damn difference at all.

    I caught about 10 minutes of Mike & Mike this morning. Golic looked livid about it, and I loved it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    This is ridiculous. Wealthy kids get offered scholarships all the time. What about Pro athletes kids who get offered schollies? Maybe they don't have the money of Diddy but they've got plenty of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    God damn I fuckin' hate people.

    It's really this god damn simple:

    Did the kid earn the scholarship fair and square for his athletic abilities? No rules broken by giving the kid the scholarship (doctored SAT scores or some shit)?

    Then it's a non-issue. Rich kids get scholarships all the damn time. I'm pretty sure Carson Palmer's parents were fuckin' loaded and he got a full ride at USC.

    Maybe it is a good thing that a zombie apocalypse is coming because it's shit like this that makes me think we need a reset button cause humanity is fucked.
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Yeah, I don't hear about people saying that Barry Sanders Jr doesn't deserve a scholarship.

    If this was a need-based scholarship, well, no shit he shouldn't be getting it. But it's an athletic scholarship. Money has no factor there.

    Now, if he turns around and commits NCAA violations because his "family needed the money", then we've got a problem. And an answer for whether or not giving kids a little extra in their scholarship would make any damn difference at all.

    I caught about 10 minutes of Mike & Mike this morning. Golic looked livid about it, and I loved it!
    I'm glad to see you guys are all as smart and reasonable as I thought you all were.

    Instead of typing out a new response on the topic, I'm just going to copy/paste my response that I made in the discussion on this topic on Mike and Mike's Facebook page. The fact that I had to get so in-depth and so extensive in my response on that discussion basically will sum up all 677 comments made without needing to read any of them, and some of the morons commenting on there.

    Some of you people talk about this making you sick, some of you people make me sick. I've been a lifelong Democrat, but now I completely understand the socialism talk by Republicans. Here is this kid who excelled in the classroom and on the football field, earned an athletic scholarship on a Division I-A college football team with his hard work in school and hard work in practice and in football games, and instead of celebrating his achievements in life, we're condemning him because his rich father isn't paying his way through college.

    Have any of you ever thought maybe Justin is trying to do things on his own, set himself up for success on his own like his father did, trying to make his own name for himself instead of riding daddy's coattails to fame? Maybe Sean is making his son earn his way into and through college instead of just letting junior ride his coattails, spend his hard earned money and go through life with a silver spoon because he's the son of a $500 million man, instead of working hard like his father and earning his own money, earning his own successes in life and having a successful and productive life?

    Justin Combs put in the work to get to where he is today. We tell our kids every day to work hard, put in the effort, work to achieve your goals and earn your way through life, yet when this kid does EXACTLY that, you all want to just completely rip it out of his arms just because his father happens to be a rich music mogul. So apparently it's perfectly fine to work hard for your achievements and goals and earn your way through life, unless you have a parent who is rich, then "to hell with you, have your daddy pay for it."

    And if his father should have to pay everything because he's rich, like Golic was saying this morning, where is the cut off line? If you earn $100,000 per year you have to pay your kid's way through college no matter what? $500,000 per year? $1 million in the bank account? $5 million in the bank account? What's the line people?

    Next, this is an athletic scholarship, paid for by ticket sales, donors, boosters, etc. This is not public money your own son or daughter can earn just for doing well in their classes. So some random kid who was depending on that money to get them into school, no, this isn’t financial aid, it’s a scholarship for elite and good football players.

    As for the “next kid in line” who could have received that scholarship, if the coaches truly wanted that kid and that kid truly was good enough in the classroom and on the field to earn his own scholarship, he would have received one. He didn’t, he wasn’t good enough to earn a UCLA football scholarship. It happens every year at all 120 Division I-A football teams, some kid whose parents think he’s the next Tom Brady find out their kid isn’t good enough to earn a scholarship from a DI-A football team, its life! Get used to it!

    And finally to end, a question I have been challenging people to answer all day long, and yet amazingly, not one single person has either been able to answer or willing to answer. If you're so outraged and up in arms because Sean Combs' son was given a scholarship that he EARNED with his hard work in the classroom and on the field, then where the hell is the outrage and people up in arms about every other kid of a rich parent currently in colleges all over the country on athletic and academic scholarships?

    How come none of you were outraged that Andrew Luck was given an athletic scholarship to Stanford even though his parents are both loaded enough to have paid for his tuition? How come none of you ARE outraged that Matt Barkley currently has an athletic scholarship to USC even though his parents are loaded enough to pay for his tuition? How come none of you were outraged back when Peyton and Eli Manning were on scholarships to play college football at UT and UM when Archie Manning definitely has more than enough money to have paid all their tuition costs?

    How come none of you are outraged that Doc Rivers' son, Austin Rivers, has an athletic scholarship to play basketball at Duke, even though I'm certain Doc Rivers has more than enough money to pay for his son's tuition? How come none of you are outraged that the sons of Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, and countless other sons of rich former athletes all currently have athletic scholarships at their respective universities even through their dads all have more than enough money to pay their tuition and "free up these scholarships for the poor, under-privileged kids" who just didn't have good enough grades and wasn't quite good enough on the athletic field to earn his own scholarship over the likes of these "privileged kids of rich parents"?

    If you have never ONCE been outraged at all these other privileged children of rich and famous parents earning athletic scholarships but suddenly because Sean Combs' son has earned one you consider it a grave injustice to the American education system, then you may kindly shut the hell up.

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