I miss the small and large jukes they had on PS2. You could really break ankles with the small juke moves. Hit L1 and R1 back to back and ankles would break!
I miss the small and large jukes they had on PS2. You could really break ankles with the small juke moves. Hit L1 and R1 back to back and ankles would break!
In all honesty Smooth, I think the jukes have always been over powered but they were fun. The PS2 wasn't as bad but the players had more momentum so it was very effective. In the new video where Denard gets taken down easily that is frustrating. My success ratio in the open field in NCAA 12 was almost zero (I may also suck). It's like playing a baseball game and never hitting a HR. It sapped that fun aspect for me last year.
I have NCAA 10 for my PS3 ( PS2 version ) so I'll work on a video on the juke.
I'd love to see you start a thread on PS2 NCAA titles and say which one your favourites are. I never played a PS2 title after NCAA 07. I thought 07 was largely better than 06 but the momentum meter killed a lot of the fun since most games snowballed into easy wins or big defeats.Originally Posted by xMrHitStickx904
Found a PS2 NCAA 10 juke.
Last edited by Rudy; 05-25-2012 at 07:10 PM.
geez, i wanna say that that is modeled directly after how reggie bush runs. just the way your guy holds the ball, how he jukes, spins, everything. brings back memories of how good he was on the field.
The read play imo was great! Only thing the DE could do better is get up the field and chase the rb from behind.
I agree on the receiver route. I thought the whole thing this year was that you have to see it to play it??? Read and React! I'm fine that he makes the catch, but he should have to adjust just like the dbs when the ball is thrown off of his route. If they fix that we'll have ourselves a sweet system, otherwise, it's gonna be user cheats all day to throw streaks to the corner.
That was a missed juke. I think the user was too slow with his reaction. I guarantee we all turn that into 6. I was running with Kentucky qb just last week against my brother and avoided a sack, then scrambled out to the right. Got about 10 yards downfield and spun inside on the cb, who missed the tackle. About 3 steps later I shimmied back outside with a juke and got bumped but avoided the safety. Down the sidelines I went, until the defender from the other side rode the angle to cut me off inside the 15, but I just slowed down and ran inside 2 steps while my wr took him outta bounds and walked into the endzone.
It was a thing of beauty. 1 half decently timed juke move with D.R. puts that defender in a straight-jacket and Denard scores easily. But he mistimed it.
Christian McLeod of EA (@Bumble14_EA) tweeted at me about the juke.
"... the juke move has been improved over '12. Jukes are heavily dependent on ratings in 13.You'll feel the difference b/t different players, and feel an improvement over 12."
This makes me feel better. I still need to know if the cpu can execute properly. I also hope the stiff arm and truck moves are better this year.
Last edited by Rudy; 05-26-2012 at 03:55 AM.
Yeah, for users it'll be great, but for the CPU, it (and many other CPU-related gameplay issues) are all gonna depend on how much they worked on the CPU this year.
Here is a highlight video of NCAA 06. Just check the first run at 10 seconds. When the player manually jukes left and right there is a definite slowdown and then speed back up. You can't cut at 100 mph although the quick juke is good. You could really feel and see the players lean with momentum. I think Michigan runs a reverse that's effective just after the 1 minute mark. Mike Hart was great back then! AT 3:05 you see the urinate on the goal post TD celebration lol.
Last edited by Rudy; 05-26-2012 at 07:00 AM.
I'm sorry, but that is just atrocious. The reason why the running game felt so open was because the hit detection was ATROCIOUS. Guys running into the ball carrier and just going the other way instead of auto-tackling.
I think the Quick Clip would be tons easier to analyze if there was some kind of commentary from the devs. As others have said on the last few pages, there's way too much unknown here to analyze it.
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so on the comeback play, look at the sam linebacker covering the "A" receiver. When A slants inside, it looks as though the backer cuts before him. Am I just seeing things, or does that mean psychic db's?!?!
Yeah I would say that the DB's have much more realistic movement than the LB's in coverage, but having said that I think the head turning aspect is being way overdone especially by the DB covering the WR Curl(looks unrealistic as if EA simply took their old animation and changed the head to be looking back when turning upfield (ouch gives me a crook in my neck just thinking about anybody doing that in real life). I would have preferred them making completely new animations of a defender running while looking back that looks more natural with upper body turned in more and much slower movement running while looking back at WR. The LB's seem to instantly react (psychic-like) more so than the DB's in this WIP video showcase. In the WR creating space clip the RB runs his blue delay route and the LB instantly jumps inside even though the RB(who in this case is the RB receiver icon) just starts planting his feet and hasn't made his move inside or outside yet, but the LB knows the RB is going inside. I know the ability to completely remove psychic DB's will be a challenge for you EA, but you have done a much better job in showing proper foot planting and delay in reponses to receiver movement by the DB's so just make it happen with the LB's.
I didn't take a look at the clip again, but there are several reasons that a player in coverage should cut early. Players jump routes all the time during CFB/NFL games. The question of whether or not it's psychic DBs is whether they do it all the time, and whether or not a double move (Sluggo, in this case) can take advantage of the occasional jump.
I know there is a system in place where the defense analyzes the routes you run, and (theoretically) can capitalize when you run the same routes repeatedly. That was an AI enhancement a few years ago, I can't recall what it was called. But if the coverage player only occasionally jumps routes, that could be what you're seeing. Maybe they ran that play over and over again to get the right clip for the recording
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Watching that video again and I must concur... it doesn't do much for me simply because we have no idea as to the situation (playing level, repetition of play selection, etc.). I suspect that at E3 we will get to see a ton of "real" footage and get a much better feel for this game (and a demo date too).
By the way in the Mich vs Mary game the MLB route jumps at 0:54...
Last edited by Little Steve; 05-27-2012 at 11:30 PM.
I don't think you understand the point of either of those emoticons....
The "jump" is actually near simultaneous. Obviously it's not quite what's been advertised, but simultaneous would still be better than what we were seeing in NCAA 11 and 12.
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is the the latest video from an old build maybe ncaa 12? there is no ticker at the bottom of the screen.
I don't think it's NCAA 12, there are a few telltale things that definitely look different to me. But it certainly could be from an old build.
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