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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I'm sorry, but you have unrealistic expectations of what the crowd should sound like. The crowd noise for that game sounded fine. It was the home team with the ball, so the crowd noise is going to be low to give the home team the ability to make changes to the play without interference. The crowd sounds fine when they score a TD. It's the beginning of the game. Crowds don't go apeshit on normal TDs by the offense at the beginning of the game.
    The crowd is the number one thing for me honestly. I find myself swiching from UC to a different team with a biger stadium 3 months in. Its kinda the number one thing about college football i think most people like. Remember when you went to college and your team scores and the band starts playing your school fight song, gets you pumped, everybody's pumped. it makes it fun.
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    Count me in as a person who wants to hear the crowd significantly loud throughout the game (realisitic or not). Homefield advantage ala 06 was awesome in my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Count me in as a person who wants to hear the crowd significantly loud throughout the game (realisitic or not). Homefield advantage ala 06 was awesome in my personal opinion.
    It's highly unrealistic.

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    True Mors but this as we both know, this is only a video game. It can't all be about realism all of the time. There has to be a "fun factor" involved as well. I think a lot of people like an insane crowd because it helps with the immersion and makes the game feel more fun to be a part of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    True Mors but this as we both know, this is only a video game. It can't all be about realism all of the time. There has to be a "fun factor" involved as well. I think a lot of people like an insane crwod because it helps with the immersion and makes the game feel more fun to be a part of.
    Get some good entertainment center speakers to hook up to your TV, turn down every audio option except for crowd noise, and crank the TV up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Get some good entertainment center speakers to hook up to your TV, turn down every audio option except for crowd noise, and crank the TV up.
    Yeah my wife wears the pants in our relationship and she won't let that happen. I was "allowed" however to buy a head set. Maybe that's why I loved 06 so much... I was single, living alone and cranked up the sound to insane levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Count me in as a person who wants to hear the crowd significantly loud throughout the game (realisitic or not). Homefield advantage ala 06 was awesome in my personal opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    It's highly unrealistic.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    True Mors but this as we both know, this is only a video game. It can't all be about realism all of the time. There has to be a "fun factor" involved as well. I think a lot of people like an insane crwod because it helps with the immersion and makes the game feel more fun to be a part of.
    the crowd noise where its at now, is only something to avoid a dead air feeling. it doesnt have any impact. i dont want a game played at oregon, or lsu, or florida, or michigan to feel like its just a scrimmage between my team and their's on an empty practice field with no one watching. the HFA from 05/06 made it where having a loud stadium had a slight impact on your ability to play the game. highly unrealistic or not, it would definitely make playing at those stadiums above feel more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Yeah my wife wears the pants in our relationship and she won't let that happen. I was "allowed" however to buy a head set. Maybe that's why I loved 06 so much... I was single, living alone and cranked up the sound to insane levels.
    At least you admit it. Some of my friends still refuse to admit that their wife wears the pants in the relationship, even though it's clear and obvious to everyone else.

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    Sucks for u guys, im the best basketball player in the league. I get first pick, and they leave me alone mostly to keep me happy. 2-5 hours a day on basketball, alot on school, and an hour lifting weights. I spend 2 hours a week with her max. Well see you guys, going to the ymca. old people.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    At least you admit it. Some of my friends still refuse to admit that their wife wears the pants in the relationship, even though it's clear and obvious to everyone else.
    I'm ecstatic my wife runs our household. She makes all the mundane, "I could care less about it" decisions which frees me up to only give input on important things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Steve View Post
    Sucks for u guys, im the best basketball player in the league. I get first pick, and they leave me alone mostly to keep me happy. 2-5 hours a day on basketball, alot on school, and an hour lifting weights. I spend 2 hours a week with her max. Well see you guys, going to the ymca. old people.....
    With age comes wisdom. You have to be old to really appreciate and while being young has its advantages, being old is a blessing in itself and I'm more then content in my old age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I'm sorry, but you have unrealistic expectations of what the crowd should sound like. The crowd noise for that game sounded fine. It was the home team with the ball, so the crowd noise is going to be low to give the home team the ability to make changes to the play without interference. The crowd sounds fine when they score a TD. It's the beginning of the game. Crowds don't go apeshit on normal TDs by the offense at the beginning of the game.
    I honestly noticed a marked difference in crowd reaction myself. Don't know what all the fuss is about. Like you said, home team with the ball. Only an uneducated crowd would be loud during the drive, except after big plays, which has obviously been addressed. The touchdown has an AWESOME reaction!

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    Just watching that clip again, I don't know if I will be able to play another season on NCAA 12. Seeing those scores and score updates in the 13 clips leaves 12 feeling no connection to the rest of the teams.

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    While we are on the topic of crowd noise. I think a big problem on the TD was that the band started playing as the crowd reacted. It should be crowd reacts, then band plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Just watching that clip again, I don't know if I will be able to play another season on NCAA 12. Seeing those scores and score updates in the 13 clips leaves 12 feeling no connection to the rest of the teams.
    Agreed. I'm gonna finish out my current season in my FIU dynasty and then I think that'll be it. The fact that there's less than two months until NCAA 13 releases (and I'd like to have a break between the end of 12 and start of 13 to refresh, rejuvenate, and reinvigorate), and then after seeing all the stuff being added in NCAA 13, to go and play a bunch more games in NCAA 12 without those features, it'd be tough.

    I think trying to close out my current season in my FIU dynasty by June 1st, and then spend from June 1st up to release day typing all my players and their ratings (either on FIU or my new team depending on what happens in coaching carousel) into a spreadsheet to have all the information ready to go and ready to be edited into the team roster in NCAA 13 starting on release day, is going to be the best way to go for me.

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    Reevaluating the crowd noise, I have some more thoughts.

    1: We must remember that the default crowd noise setting is probably not as loud as it should be. If you turn up the crowd noise vs the other components the crowd WILL stand out more. I do this on all of my sports titles and it makes a world of difference.

    2: The issue really isn't the reaction, it's the sustained enthusiasm! Or I should say lack of sustained enthusiasm. After the td the crowd continues on nicely, but after the other plays they return to their original level too quickly. The crowd reaction really should go on for 5 or 6 more seconds and I think it would make a huge difference that way.

    3: First downs could be louder, especially as the ball gets closer to the endzone, specifically inside the 40.

    4: I think a major missing component to the game is an away crowd reaction on big plays. It should sound probably like the home crowd sounds on the plays at 1:20 and 3:27, except a slight bit fainter. Mixed with that there really isn't a home crowd "groan" or collective gasp when something bad happens. That mixed with the away crowd going nuts in their little faint corner would be huge to the atmospheric capabilities.

    5: And the last thing is that the "anticipation" isn't there still. Ball in the air or runner breaking away, 1 guy to beat, crowd is standing up getting louder and THEN exploding or groaning. "aaaaaaaaAaAaAaAAaAAaAAaAAAAAAAA!" or "aaaaaaaAaAaAaAaAAaAAoooooooh!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayrah View Post
    Reevaluating the crowd noise, I have some more thoughts.

    1: We must remember that the default crowd noise setting is probably not as loud as it should be. If you turn up the crowd noise vs the other components the crowd WILL stand out more. I do this on all of my sports titles and it makes a world of difference.

    2: The issue really isn't the reaction, it's the sustained enthusiasm! Or I should say lack of sustained enthusiasm. After the td the crowd continues on nicely, but after the other plays they return to their original level too quickly. The crowd reaction really should go on for 5 or 6 more seconds and I think it would make a huge difference that way.

    3: First downs could be louder, especially as the ball gets closer to the endzone, specifically inside the 40.

    4: I think a major missing component to the game is an away crowd reaction on big plays. It should sound probably like the home crowd sounds on the plays at 1:20 and 3:27, except a slight bit fainter. Mixed with that there really isn't a home crowd "groan" or collective gasp when something bad happens. That mixed with the away crowd going nuts in their little faint corner would be huge to the atmospheric capabilities.

    5: And the last thing is that the "anticipation" isn't there still. Ball in the air or runner breaking away, 1 guy to beat, crowd is standing up getting louder and THEN exploding or groaning. "aaaaaaaaAaAaAaAAaAAaAAaAAAAAAAA!" or "aaaaaaaAaAaAaAaAAaAAoooooooh!"
    I'd have to say, after re-watching the video, I would agree. The sound volume could be a factor in the crowd noise. I also agree on your other points, Jayrah. I would just love to hear that dynamic crowd noise where the crowd is reacting to real life degrees based on what's happening on the field.

    On a completely different note, I noticed on the ticker at the bottom that all of the times of the games are stopped. In the real life ticker you will notice games ticking down, but the times are stopped in the game video we are shown. I know this is a very small and probably trivial thing, but I just think that adds to the "being simmed in real time" factor. I also noticed that two times were the exact same time in back to back games, which is very unlikely unless it is inside the 2 minute mark of a half. In fact, it is at the very beginning of the video. At about the 17 second mark, San Diego State and Boise State are playing with 14:29 left to play in the 4th quarter. Also, New Mexico and UNLV are playing with 14:29 left to play in the 4th quarter.

    It just seems odd that these two games would be stopped at the exact same time in the same quarter back to back, and poses the question: Will we see only a handful of stopped times in the ticker? For example, will we see games stopped the majority of the time at 14:29 in the 4th quarter? Like I said before, I know it may be trivial and not even worth mentioning, but it is just something I noticed. Just thought I would point it out since I feel like people will be distracted continuously this year by the bottom ticker

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    Excellent thoughts and ideas on crowd noise Jayrah. Is it too late to tweak any of this stuff for EA? I have to think they are just bug testing and a couple weeks away from going gold. Maybe a day one patch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Needs more:

    1) EA SUCKS!
    2) 2K5 is better!
    3) $60 roster update!
    4) NCAA 12.5!
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    You forgot socks.
    I think he meant SOCKS, he just made a typo. If you look at # 1 on his list, I think he meant: EA, SOCKS!

    Okay... one question... after watching that clip from 2005 has anyone else noticed the game has taken a serious decline since Lee Corso was removed? Coincidence? I think not!!!

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