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    Damn, that really sucks. Feel bad for Idaho...

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    The MWC should just get these 2 stragglers, get to 12 teams, and have a CCG in Denver at Invesco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    The MWC should just get these 2 stragglers, get to 12 teams, and have a CCG in Denver at Invesco.


    That's what I've been saying for days now (picking up Idaho and NMSU). And the CCG in Denver at Invesco would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    If the Mountain West takes NMSU but shuts Idaho out in the cold, they're gonna go on my shit list. That would be some big time bullshit to take in NMSU but give a giant middle finger to Idaho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    Joining the Big Sky would drop Idaho from the highly competitive Football Championship Subdivision. But Fullerton says the Vandals could still play in a competitive league.
    Nice job, Sporting News.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    If the Mountain West takes NMSU but shuts Idaho out in the cold, they're gonna go on my shit list. That would be some big time bullshit to take in NMSU but give a giant middle finger to Idaho.
    Unless New Mexico suddenly becomes a supporter of NMSU, I don't see that happening. Though I also don't 100% understand why you're blaming the Mountain West for this ... there's a lot more blame to go around than for the MW. The Big East and MW are just trying to survive at this point, and the WAC simply became the meat for the vultures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Nice job, Sporting News.
    Unless New Mexico suddenly becomes a supporter of NMSU, I don't see that happening. Though I also don't 100% understand why you're blaming the Mountain West for this ... there's a lot more blame to go around than for the MW. The Big East and MW are just trying to survive at this point, and the WAC simply became the meat for the vultures.
    My only blame for the Mountain West would if they were to take in NMSU and shut out Idaho. Why only take in one and sit at 11 when you could take in both (and have both fit in your conference's geographical footprint), have 12 and have a CCG. Also, partially because what makes NMSU worthy of entrance into the MWC, but it's FU to Idaho (who might be forced to drop down to the FCS.

    I'm not blaming the Mountain West for reaching the point we have in the shifting conference landscape. My only blame/hate for them would be taking in NMSU while simultaneously screwing Idaho out of a conference spot, resulting in FBS college football losing a team as Idaho would be forced to drop down. While Idaho was already a member of the FCS from 78-95, to be forced to drop back down to the FCS simply because the Mountain West didn't want to take them in, resulting in them being the odd man left out in the conference changes, is pretty shitty.

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    I think the shitty part is that ANYBODY will be possibly moving down while Texas State, UTSA, etc are all moving up. Non-sensical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    No. Not Idaho. Damn you Mountain West.
    If the MWC doesn't pick up Idaho then they are really dumb. Like you say, add Idaho and boom you have two divisions and a conference championship and that means more money for the conference. Dumb... let's hope reason wins out on this one and the MWC gets their heads out of their butts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    The MWC should just get these 2 stragglers, get to 12 teams, and have a CCG in Denver at Invesco.
    They are most likely waiting to see if Boise State and SDSU are going to come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I think the shitty part is that ANYBODY will be possibly moving down while Texas State, UTSA, etc are all moving up. Non-sensical.
    A very good point there and one I agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    If the MWC doesn't pick up Idaho then they are really dumb. Like you say, add Idaho and boom you have two divisions and a conference championship and that means more money for the conference. Dumb... let's hope reason wins out on this one and the MWC gets their heads out of their butts!
    Yep, every other conference seems to want to go to 12 teams and have a CCG, except the MWC apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by razorback44 View Post
    They are most likely waiting to see if Boise State and SDSU are going to come back.
    If they're waiting for that, then jaymo is right and they really are dumb. College football may indeed be going down the path where in two or three years (whatever exact date/year it was) where automatic qualifiers will no longer exist and it will just be every conference in the same pot, the Big East (even with having to fly clear across the country to play games against the other BE teams on the east coast), is still the "higher esteemed" conference and the "better" conference in the eyes of pretty much everyone over that of the Mountain West.

    Boise State and SDSU made their decisions to jump to and join the Big East. I don't see them suddenly changing their minds and going right back to the Mountain West. Plus, granted it would make the Mountain West a better conference with Boise State and SDSU coming back, but would the Mountain West be willing to take them right back in immediately after Boise State and SDSU basically both just told the MWC that the conference is not good enough for them and a conference clear across the country on the east coast is?

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    They're not "going down the path" ... it's happening. AQ will no longer exist with the next contract.

    And, while I agree that at first the Big East will still be a "higher" conference, I think people will be much more willing to change that view if the MWC started playing really well. The Big East is effectively the old MWC, so all the "they don't play anybody!" biases should still apply
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    They're not "going down the path" ... it's happening. AQ will no longer exist with the next contract.

    And, while I agree that at first the Big East will still be a "higher" conference, I think people will be much more willing to change that view if the MWC started playing really well. The Big East is effectively the old MWC, so all the "they don't play anybody!" biases should still apply
    Yeah, I couldn't remember if they had decided for certain to do away with AQ or if it was still just "being talked about", so I went with the "cover my ass" wording.

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    Football not the only sport with some musical chairs going. The Atlantic 10 gets stronger as they added Butler last week, and announced today, VCU will join the conference in 2013. Maybe part of the reason why Shaka Smart decided to stay as VCU is now going to go to what is considered a power conference in college basketball.

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    Well, now he's gonna have to show that he has his shit together. While Drexel, Old Dominion and George Mason (along with Delaware also to an extent) are tough opponents in the CAA, going to the Atlantic 10, with Temple, Saint Louis, Xavier, St. Bonaventure, UMass, La Salle, Dayton, St. Joseph's, and now Butler. Good god that is gonna be a tournament killer conference for anyone who doesn't finish in the top 3-5 teams at the end of the season.

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    Temple left the A10 to rejoin the Big East but yeah that is a very tough conference still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorback44 View Post
    Temple left the A10 to rejoin the Big East but yeah that is a very tough conference still.
    Oh that's right, I forgot about that. Damnit, all these changes are hard to keep track of.

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    It definitely doesn't get easier to keep track of in basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    It definitely doesn't get easier to keep track of in basketball.
    No, it does not. With conference changes happening by the week, basketball is a pain in the ass to keep track of with 33 different conferences.

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    Uhhhhh? I just heard on ESPN Radio that Florida State may consider going to the Big XII? WOW.

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