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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    That, and he's forcing his dumb ass religion down my throat by me going to anything resembling a sports website/television show and having to see his completely retarded "celebration".

    Note to self, remove Mors from my Christmas Card list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdoughty View Post
    Talk about missing the point. I have no issue with the Ray Lewis the past 5 or so years (other than being a Raven). He still has a past that is not so glowing. Warrick Dunn, he is not, oops he was a Seminole.
    I did not miss the point. You are changing it now though. It all started by someone saying there are more annoying people in the NFL RIGHT now and E said Lewis. I asked what was wrong with him and you bring up shit from his past. Now you are saying you have no problem with him in the past 5 or so years besides being a Raven, then how is he more annoying now than Tebow? Also, you think Tebow is the only person in the NFL who does good things? Definitely not, but he is damn sure one of the first ones to let everyone know what he does that is good. And now you edit something about Dunn, but make sure you put something about him being a Seminole but the main things you put that you hate about Lewis are the teams he has played for? It is okay for you to not like someone for a team they play for, but not anyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryby6969 View Post
    I did not miss the point. You are changing it now though. It all started by someone saying there are more annoying people in the NFL RIGHT now and E said Lewis. I asked what was wrong with him and you bring up shit from his past. Now you are saying you have no problem with him in the past 5 or so years besides being a Raven, then how is he more annoying now than Tebow? Also, you think Tebow is the only person in the NFL who does good things? Definitely not, but he is damn sure one of the first ones to let everyone know what he does that is good. And now you edit something about Dunn, but make sure you put something about him being a Seminole but the main things you put that you hate about Lewis are the teams he has played for? It is okay for you to not like someone for a team they play for, but not anyone else?
    Not changing anything, I listed 3 things about Lewis that I did not like. As a Steeler fan, I do not care for the Ravens. As a Sooner fan, I am not a Hurricane fan. As a person who does not murder people, I do not care for murderers. I stuck Warrick in because he is commonly known for all his charitable deeds and that he was one of the good guys. Just trying to cover all the Florida schools. Ray has changed as a person, as best I can tell but that does not change his past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdoughty View Post
    Silly me, I tend to not notice ones "indifference" with Tebow when the comment "is he ***, or Christian" is used, because of how he speaks. Might want to hit up merriam-webster.com and look up the definition.
    No.

    I said that I am indifferent to his overtly christian gestures. The fact that I can't tell if he's your youth minister or one of the Village People has nothing to do with it.

    I'm no more bothered by his jesus peddling than I am by any other player doing a sack dance or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    I can tell you're an OS reject.
    You nailed it!


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    Wow, all of this over a shitty player than can't even complete 50% of his passes.

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    Who has a Heisman, a National Title and currently a 6-2 record as a starter the past two years. I could give two shits how many of his passes are completed with that kind of record. Plus have you looked at the Bronco receiving core? Can you name three of them, including TE's.

    Fuck it, arguing with a bunch of atheists is a waste of time.

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    I'm agnostic, thank you.

    And Tebow is 5-3, not 6-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    I'm agnostic, thank you.

    And Tebow is 5-3, not 6-2.
    Excuse me 5-3. Agnostics are just pussified atheists, covering their ass just in case they are wrong in their heathen ways.

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    I hated the guy in college and I hate the praying. What ruined me is seeing him doing some ministry and he sound like a televangelist. ....it made me sick.

    Now, in the pros I want him to succeed just to shut the mouths of all the 'experts' on ESPN!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdoughty View Post
    Excuse me 5-3. Agnostics are just pussified atheists, covering their ass just in case they are wrong in their heathen ways.
    Wow, you're a fucking moron.

    No one, or nothing, has proven to me that there is a god. No one, or nothing, has proven there is not. Hence, agnostic.


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    Last edited by steelerfan; 11-18-2011 at 08:25 PM.

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    I do think a lot of hate comes from people who aren't religious. The lack of respect in this thread towards Christianity bothers me.

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    I don't know if I'm one of the people you think are showing a lack of respect towards Christianity but let me assure you that is not my intent. I have trouble with Tebow and his over-the-top antics.

    I have trouble with the praying b/c don't understand it. What exactly do people pray for when they score a TD? ...'thanks for making me a winner and the other team losers'?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I do think a lot of hate comes from people who aren't religious. The lack of respect in this thread towards Christianity bothers me.
    So I should have respect for a religion that has people killing other people in it's name nearly every day? The bloodiest wars and genocides in the history of humanity have been done in the name of one fictional god or another. Excuse me if I'm not kind about a religion with so many innocent people's blood on it's hands.

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    The lack of respect in this thread towards Agnosticism bothers me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't know if I'm one of the people you think are showing a lack of respect towards Christianity but let me assure you that is not my intent. I have trouble with Tebow and his over-the-top antics.

    I have trouble with the praying b/c don't understand it. What exactly do people pray for when they score a TD? ...'thanks for making me a winner and the other team losers'?
    I don't personally think he's calling attention to himself when praying but I absolutely agree with you in disliking players who thank God for a victory. God doesn't play favourites in sports. It's silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    So I should have respect for a religion that has people killing other people in it's name nearly every day? The bloodiest wars and genocides in the history of humanity have been done in the name of one fictional god or another. Excuse me if I'm not kind about a religion with so many innocent people's blood on it's hands.
    No question bad things have happened in history as a result of religious wars. But so many good things have happened as well. South Africa had Bishop Desmond Tutu lead a religious movement that allowed the black and white community to come together with no bloodshed. The church has done many good things. That can't be ignored. You also can't ignore the horrible things atheist leaders have done in this world either.

    If you are an atheist or agnostic I'm not going to bother you but you should show some respect for people that do believe. You may not believe this but people are entitled to different opinions and we can peacefully co-exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I don't personally think he's calling attention to himself when praying but I absolutely agree with you in disliking players who thank God for a victory. God doesn't play favourites in sports. It's silly.
    Yep, that is my point as well.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post

    If you are an atheist or agnostic I'm not going to bother you but you should show some respect for people that do believe. You may not believe this but people are entitled to different opinions and we can peacefully co-exist.
    Well said. I tend to fall into this trap when people are going after religion. Two wrongs do not make a right and I am guilty of that.

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    It would probably be best if we discontinued this discussion.

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    Again, all of this over a shitty football player.

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