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    That is interesting CDJ, you need to tailgate with us. We will change your stance I hope on PSU and the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    That's kind of crazy CDJ. Typically we here very good things about visiting fan's experiences. Obviously not every single fan up here is respectable and when you have drinking involved it can bring out the worst in people, sorry to hear they ruined your experience.
    I think drinking had a lot to do with it. I'm not sure of campus rules now, but that night the fence surrounding the stadium was just littered with beer cases, bottles, trash, etc. The theme for that game was some sort of retribution for 1994 (but they forgot that was payback for 1982 ) so the entire crowd was pretty wound up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    I think drinking had a lot to do with it. I'm not sure of campus rules now, but that night the fence surrounding the stadium was just littered with beer cases, bottles, trash, etc. The theme for that game was some sort of retribution for 1994 (but they forgot that was payback for 1982 ) so the entire crowd was pretty wound up.
    That was definitely a long day. Considering Snoop passed out in the doorway of the RV for about 4 hours and we just had to step over him, we had a good time .

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    That was definitely a long day. Considering Snoop passed out in the doorway of the RV for about 4 hours and we just had to step over him, we had a good time .
    You two are hopping in the RV next year right? We'll have to get 3 maybe 4 tickets together for that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    You two are hopping in the RV next year right? We'll have to get 3 maybe 4 tickets together for that game.
    That's the plan as of right now. We took 8 to Alabama, I could see possibly 10 coming out to Nebraska. I mapped it awhile ago and it's 21 hour drive in the RV

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    That's the plan as of right now. We took 8 to Alabama, I could see possibly 10 coming out to Nebraska. I mapped it awhile ago and it's 21 hour drive in the RV
    Whoever is getting the tickets, I'll definitely get them back when you guys get here. I'll make sure I'm not DJ'ing that night, but we may have to make an appearance

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    Oh 21hrs is long time to get your ass handed to you in NCAA.

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    Man that was a really long day that day. I feel sorry for whoever cleaned up that RV bathroom, I swear someone was driving everytime I had to piss or puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    Oh 21hrs is long time to get your ass handed to you in NCAA.
    You guys have a PS3 in the RV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    You guys have a PS3 in the RV?
    Hell yeah. It's a long drive. One dude has Slingbox so we watched NFL on the way home from Alabama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Whoever is getting the tickets, I'll definitely get them back when you guys get here. I'll make sure I'm not DJ'ing that night, but we may have to make an appearance
    Ummmm, you're the Nebraska alum. I was really hoping you could hook us up with tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Ummmm, you're the Nebraska alum. I was really hoping you could hook us up with tickets.
    yeah right, I haven't given them a dime since I graduated

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    yeah right, I haven't given them a dime since I graduated
    Work your connections.

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    I told myself I wasn't going to read anything about the situation on Sandusky and wasn't going to comment but this article in my mind is complete and other crap. Stewart Mandel basically placing the blame for the whole thing squarely on Joe.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...re/?xid=cnnbin

    In 2000, the late Myles Brand made the controversial decision to oust revered Indiana basketball coach Bob Knight. Brand, then Indiana University's president, drew the scorn of students and alumni but the admiration of his peers, who named him NCAA president two years later.

    If college athletics held its proper place in the greater landscape of higher education, there would have been no reason to congratulate or criticize Brand. In other walks of life, it's not considered courageous when the head of a business dismisses one of his subordinates for inappropriate behavior. The Brand-Knight incident was only jarring because for the previous 30 years, the power dynamic between Indiana's president and basketball coach had been reversed.

    Nothing about college coaches' skewed importance has changed since then. If anything, it's gotten worse. Head football and basketball coaches now make as much as five times more than they did just a decade ago, and the media coverage surrounding them has amplified accordingly.

    But if there were ever a time for fans, media members and college administrators alike to get a collective wake-up call, it's following Joe Paterno's dismissal. No football coach has ever lorded over an entire university the way Paterno did during his 45 years in State College. And no university has suffered a more gruesome football-related episode than the ongoing Jerry Sandusky child molestation scandal.

    The mess at Penn State has illustrated the danger of putting successful coaches on pedestals. Four wins or 400, coaches are still people, and people aren't perfect. That's why our government employs a system of checks and balances, and why businesses nationwide mimic that distribution of power.

    At Penn State, Paterno had all the power. President Graham Spanier and athletic director Tim Curley were technically his bosses, but they held as much sway over him as the guys selling hot dogs at Beaver Stadium on Saturdays. We know this most vividly because in 2004, Spanier and Curley tried to push out the struggling 77-year-old coach, and Paterno told them ... no.

    That distorted dynamic is why Sandusky was allowed free rein of the Penn State football complex years after the first account of sexual molestation surfaced. Who was going to stop him if not Paterno?

    Many think Mike McQueary should have. According to his grand jury testimony, McQueary, then a 28-year-old graduate assistant, witnessed Sandusky raping a boy estimated to be 10 years old in the locker room showers. How, people ask, could a grown man like McQueary fail to step in and stop this atrocity when he saw it? Why did he not call the authorities?

    In McQueary's world, Paterno was The Authority. McQueary, a State College native, former Penn State quarterback and son of a huge Nittany Lions fan, has spent nearly his entire life in a warped world few of us understand. What some view as cowardice probably seemed courageous to McQueary at the time: He went to The Authority's house and relayed bad things about the coach's long-time trusted confidant. He didn't know The Authority would merely pass the information along to his two in-name-only superiors, who then failed to take substantive action.

    What's far more puzzling is how McQueary went to work for the next nine years and accepted seeing Sandusky at practice or in the weight room. But the Penn State football complex wasn't a normal workplace; the lone Authority was out to lunch in his last years on the job, but he held such clout that few dared to question his actions. That's not an excuse for McQueary's decisions, but it's reality -- a sick reality in which inaction was the norm.

    Paterno and his so-called bosses deserve all the blame we can muster for allowing this atrocity to occur, but the rest of us deserve blame for lionizing coaches like Paterno in the first place. We turn these mortal men into irreproachable icons. We do it with articles portraying them as something more mystical than people who happen to be good at their jobs. We do it by camping out for tickets in tent villages named in their honor. We do it by building statues of them while they're still on the job.

    Few actually rise to the realm of idolatry, but any major college football or basketball coach who has sustained success enjoys unprecedented power. The truly revered have presidents and athletic directors who theoretically sit above them but in reality work for them. They enjoy blindly adoring fan bases that would raise arms at the mere suggestion of wrongdoing.

    Sports are our escape, so it's not surprising that we treat our favorite figures like movie stars. But as we were reminded so painfully this week, this is real life. And unlike professional coaches, who work for businesses tasked solely with winning athletic contests, college coaches are theoretically part of a greater community, where education is supposed to trump entertainment and leadership is supposed to be more than a Big Ten Network infomercial.

    There's nothing wrong with going to a game, painting your face or cheering on your favorite team's coach for hours. There's nothing wrong with me writing an article praising a coach for his inspired gameplan. There's nothing wrong with a school president giving a championship coach a raise.

    But there's something inherently wrong with a community in which one person holds an inordinate amount of power. Teachers answer to their principal. CEOs answer to their shareholders. Mike McQueary answered to Joe Paterno.

    Paterno didn't answer to anybody. No coach has ever experienced a more painful downfall, in part because no coach had ever been elevated to such heights.

    Hopefully, no coach ever will be again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Work your connections.
    Ummm, I really don't have any

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    Just heard that someone threw a rock through Sandusky's window.

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    Cider block actually, well pieces of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Just heard that someone threw a rock through Sandusky's window.
    Too bad he wasn't home. He was off raping a little boy while the Lynch Mob, oops - media, stood outside Paterno's house.

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    Oops, double post

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Oops, double post
    Whore.

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