Penn State Football

[steelerfan]

Did you read the Grand Jury transcripts? Joe Pa knew and went on record saying he knew. The Student athlete and his father told him directly. All Honest Joe did was tell his superiors. This was a ten or so year old kid being raped in the shower and they all just let it continue. Not only was it a ten year old, Sansusky was intentionally preying on kids from poor or bad family backgrounds that were in a group trying to get help.


If you have not read the transcripts, do so. See if you can muster through the whole thing without getting a little sick.

At this stage, this is still premature. It is the court of public opinion. You don't know what, specifically, he was told (the documents don't state exactly what he was told).

The way it is outlined in the documents, it is conceivable that he was told it was possibly some sort of molestation. He then reported it to his superiors. His superiors, to his knowledge, investigated and came back to him and told him it was "horse play" and nothing to worry about.

I know that scenario is tough to believe, but that is what is in the documents. And, yes, I read all 23 pages.

For me, until someone (credible) says there is no doubt he knew exactly what transpired, and he conspired to cover it, I will give him the benefit of due process. Afterall, this is America.

I'm withholding judgement until everything comes out. Being that I'm not irrational/emotional (not a woman), I am capable of doing so.

I don't believe in hanging someone until there are no questions left unanswered.

If Joe Paterno is guilty of covering this up, he deserves to lose his job. But a knee jerk death sentence is quite hasty. Let the judicial events unfold before casting stones.

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[bdoughty]

It is your school that is on the chopping block, so it is more likely that you would reserve judgement as long as humanly possible. That is the nature of such things. Still really really shocked that your local Pedophile/Sexual Predator Sandusky was on campus last week using the weight room. Are you guys vying to become the NAMBLA headquarters?


That said you kinda lost me on the whole "woman" issue and how men are not emotional. Or maybe you just meant you, the manliest of men?

[Deuce]

The documents have nothing to do with what Paterno knew. If it comes out that he knew and covered it up then fuck him but I wanna wait until I hear something concrete.

He may have been told about something happening in the shower but we don't know what he was told after that. These are people he loved and trusted. If someone I knew was accused of this and then I was told by another friend that it wasn't true and it was all ok I'd probably believe them...but who knows? I sure as hell don't want to find out!


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[psusnoop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0EeTDWVPc&sns=em

[psusnoop]

I think Joe wanting to talk today about all this and Spanier canceling on him speaks of something. Joe wants to talk about what transpired and to me this may be telling as to what he knew and how.

Also I'm hearing the BOT is meeting either later tonight or tomorrow afternoon to discuss the resignation of Spanier. *this hasn't been confirmed yet just something I heard.

[gigemaggs99]

"He then heard rythmic, slapping sounds"....

That right there is giving me nightmares.....FUCKING SICKO!

[jaymo76]

In my line of work I deal with kids everyday. If I was "told" something like this I would legally have to go directly to the authorities. If Paterno was in fact told about this, simply going to the AD isn't enough. When it comes to the protection of children, you go above basic expectations.

[bdoughty]

borrowing this from Neogaf, a breakdown of the Grand Jury testimony and how Paterno failed to act.


Paterno must have known that Sandusky was a pedophile

There was a 1998 investigation into Sandusky for similar charges that Paterno was almost certainly aware of. Sandusky is pushed out of the football program the next year.
Paterno receives an eyewitness account of Sandusky raping a child by a member of his staff.
In case there is any doubt over whether Paterno thinks the witness might be lying/not credible, he goes on to be promote him to WR coach within 2 years of the incident.
Nowhere in the grand jury report or in Paterno's statement is there any indication that Paterno confronted Sandusky about these serious allegations to get his side of the story, despite having known the man for over 30 years.


Paterno had every reason to believe Sandusky was continuing to molest children

Had there been an investigation or charges filed after the 2002 incident, Paterno would have known about it. He observes that nothing has come of the rape incident.
Sandusky continues to bring young boys to Penn State events that Paterno is present at years later, including at least one closed practice. It is reasonable to believe that Paterno observed Sandusky in the company of these boys.


Paterno may have helped to protect Sandusky

When Paterno went to his superiors about the shower incident, one claims that Paterno told them it was harmless horsing around and the other claims that it was vaguely reported as something "inappropriate".
Paterno's public statement says that the graduate student told him that there was inappropriate behavior but it wasn't clear that it was serious.
The graduate assistant's testimony states that he clearly observed rape.
We don't know whether the graduate assistant reported rape to Paterno and Paterno downplayed it or if the graduate student chose not to give Paterno the true story for some reason, but there is room for doubt.



Oh and this might just be the beginning.

"@dan_bernstein FYI: names are being x-checked w/Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start."


he also touched on the pro-Paterno protesting going on

"@dan_bernstein Seeing the latest pro-JoePa student "protests," I demand napalming of Happy Valley. Burn them all."

[steelerfan]

There are alot of "probably, maybe, possibly, conceivably" type statements in your posts, bro. Again, when it all comes out, I'll decide what I think.

And, lmao, who the hell cares what some shock jock says on twitter? What if someone said that those kids sure didn't mind the butt-rape when they were getting free swag and tickets? Should I believe that, or just write it off as someone trying to get their dumbass opinions re-tweeted to get there name out there?

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[JBHuskers]

Paterno pulled in at home this morning, and then pulled back out.

[psuexv]

He announced to the team yesterday that he is retiring at the end of the season.

STATE COLLEGE, Pa., Nov. 9, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- I am absolutely devastated by the developments in this case. I grieve for the children and their families, and I pray for their comfort and relief.

I have come to work every day for the last 61 years with one clear goal in mind: To serve the best interests of this university and the young men who have been entrusted to my care. I have the same goal today.

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

This is a tragedy. It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.

My goals now are to keep my commitments to my players and staff and finish the season with dignity and determination. And then I will spend the rest of my life doing everything I can to help this University.

SOURCE Penn State

[JBHuskers]

Twitter found out before his team about the retirement apparantly...

[psusnoop]

What an emotional day.

I remember crying when I was a little at the fear that Joe won't always be the coach at PSU. I was very young maybe 8 or so at the time. I have like Eric been going to PSU games since birth basically. This is all very hard to take in right now and so sad and frustrating.

[JBHuskers]

It's sad to see such a long and storied era end like this.

[psusnoop]

It's sad to see such a long and storied era end like this.

[DariusLock]

This just sucks for all involved especially the kids, Sandusky need to be tarred and feathered.

[jaymo76]

This just sucks for all involved especially the kids, Sandusky need to be tarred and feathered.

EVERYONE who knew and didn't go to the authorities too!!!!!!!!!!!

[steelerfan]

After roughly 30 years of rooting for Penn State, I think I am through.

This is a disgusting witch hunt that was driven by the media and the court of public opinion.

To watch this press conference and see this board of trustees avoid answering multiple questions, including why Coach Paterno was fired is unbelievable.

I don't care what anyone else's opinion is, the board said he was fired without any more information than the public has. To me, that is the definition of a witch hunt.

Fuck PSU.

Go Irish!

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[HWill]

The Penn State rivals site is pure comedy right now.

[psuexv]

After roughly 30 years of rooting for Penn State, I think I am through.

This is a disgusting witch hunt that was driven by the media and the court of public opinion.

To watch this press conference and see this board of trustees avoid answering multiple questions, including why Coach Paterno was fired is unbelievable.

I don't care what anyone else's opinion is, the board said he was fired without any more information than the public has. To me, that is the definition of a witch hunt.

Fuck PSU.

Go Irish!

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But they continue to pay for lawyer fees for the 2 people that it is known did know something and lied about it, but crucify 2 people who they admit they don't know what they knew