Yeah the Buckeyes won't feel the real pain until a couple years, they had a good recruiting class and some good ones before this one so they'll be stacked for a couple more seasons. Only good that may come of this is Michigan might get a little better and make The Game a real rivalry again haha. And I agree with you totally on ASU, I hate seeing bad management like that, I had to deal with the same thing here in Virginia with UVA. I'm a diehard tOSU fan but I've got a soft spot for the Cavs.