View Poll Results: Your Take on Coaching Carousel

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  • Absolutely love it!

    8 14.04%
  • Love it, but want more next year

    42 73.68%
  • Don't like it

    1 1.75%
  • Haven't tried it

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Thread: Coaching Carousel: Love It or Hate It?

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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Ok, I have no clue about this now. Unless it was fixed in the server side fixes and changes EA made that Dewiel posted about earlier, then apparently it just didn't happen to me. I chose to "Explore other options in the coaching carousel" instead of signing my new contract offer, and it brought up a window saying my coach was "On the clock" and I'm now currently going through the coaching carousel. So either this is a sporadic hit and miss issue with people and it doesn't affect everyone every time, or it was fixed by EA with their server side work and changes earlier today.
    When I loaded my OD today I got a message saying something I interpreted as EA saying this issue was fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptionMasta View Post
    When I loaded my OD today I got a message saying something I interpreted as EA saying this issue was fixed.
    Yeah, one of the EA guys, Dewiel I think his name was, posted yesterday on here about fixing something on the server side that was making it so dynasties couldn't advance. But he didn't specifically mention Coaching Carousel in his post, so I wasn't sure if the CC issue was included in that fix or not.

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    Man, I hope so. Makes the carousel not as fun for ODs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Man, I hope so. Makes the carousel not as fun for ODs...
    The carousel's already not as fun for ODs. Check out my dynasty thread in the Dynasty Recap section. I made a full post about my experience with the coaching carousel in an OD while running a test OD to check out this issue.

    EDIT - For the sake of simplicity, I am editing that post from my Dynasty Recap thread into this post.

    So I'm starting to have some serious buyer's remorse about making this an online dynasty instead of offline dynasty.

    Besides the coaching carousel issue that Pastapadre wrote about, I'm also discovering that coaching carousel actually sort of sucks in online dynasty. I'm currently simming a test OD as OC of Alabama to test out this contract and coaching carousel issue that PP wrote about, and I just went through the coaching carousel after the first season. CC in online dynasty seriously sucks bad. All the coaching changes, all the movement, by teams and coaches not involving you takes place all behind the scenes.

    You basically go in and are "On the Clock" and just sit there accepting or declining offer after offer until there are no other teams interested in hiring you, and that's it. None of the suspense of teams maybe being interested in me. None of the mystery factor of what this team will do, or who that team will hire. Nothing. It's just sitting there accepting or declining a bunch of contract offers and that's it.

    Considering this dynasty is about following the career of my coach, half the fun of this dynasty (besides trying to win with various teams and successfully complete contracts) is the coaching carousel and the complete unknown of what's going to happen and what job offer I might have next. Did I just turn down my best offer or is there a better one coming up later? In online dynasty CC, there is none of that. All you see are teams that are offering you a contract, and you can at least see the next team with an offer in line behind the team you're currently on. Which means you at least know for a fact if the next offer you are receiving is better or worse than the current one.

    For me, that's not fun. That's boring, dull, time-wasting tasks. I don't want to sit there just declining offer after offer, know exactly what team is offering me a job next. I want to be sucked in to the full exciting, immersive, great unknown of coaching carousel.

    As I am only three games into this dynasty, I am seriously considering starting over with an offline dynasty, and just replacing all the contract info, all the scores in my coach history, and all the game recap posts that I already made, with the new results from the offline dynasty, so the flow of everything will still be exactly like it is now, just it'll all be updated with the offline dynasty info, instead of having those three game posts sitting there and then starting over with new posts for each game.

    I'm going to have to think about this tonight and decide what I want to do. If anyone has any opinions on what you think of everything and what I should do (stick it out with the suck ass coaching carousel setup in online dynasty, or start over in offline dynasty so I can experience the full fun and excitement of CC like it was meant to be in offline), let me know what your own thoughts are about all this.
    Last edited by SmoothPancakes; 07-19-2011 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    The carousel's already not as fun for ODs. Check out my dynasty thread in the Dynasty Recap section. I made a full post about my experience with the coaching carousel in an OD while running a test OD to check out this issue.
    This is also a bummer for me. I started my dynasty as an OD because then I can recruit on the computer and look at highlights on the web and things like that. Carousel not being the same for OD is a bummer. This, in addition to the longer wait times to advance is making me sort of wish I started this offline.

    Also, does anyone know if there is a way to take your OD offline if you want to? Maybe I can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OptionMasta View Post
    This is also a bummer for me. I started my dynasty as an OD because then I can recruit on the computer and look at highlights on the web and things like that. Carousel not being the same for OD is a bummer. This, in addition to the longer wait times to advance is making me sort of wish I started this offline.

    Also, does anyone know if there is a way to take your OD offline if you want to? Maybe I can do that.
    I'm the exact same way. I wanted to do mine as an OD so I could take full advantage of the Dynasty Wire website, do my recruiting while sitting at work or something, etc. Those are the reasons I love doing a single player online dynasty. But if coaching carousel is going to be that bad in ODs, then there is no way I'm going to continue my flagship personal dynasty, especially one that I am taking the time to post about a bunch in the Dynasty Recap forum. I want/need the entire, full Coaching Carousel experience to full enjoy my personal dynasty.

    And yeah, if there is a way to take it offline, I definitely want to know. It would certainly save me the hassle of replaying the games I already have played. Also, if we do take it offline (if we can), I am assuming, and would love to know for a fact, that the entire, proper Coaching Carousel will then play out for us at the end of each season, instead of a continuance of the OD's suck job Coaching Carousel.

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    I do love the fact that when I simmed the first year just to see what happened, UConn fired Paul P after one season for going 1-11. I hate him from him Syracuse days so it was nice to see him get the axe a year into the new job.

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    Havent tried it out yet because i have yet to start a dynasty! waiting patiently for Buck/Gator"s rosters. so it sounds like tonight I'm firing up the Miami dynasty with all custom conferences!

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    Well I finished my third season and before carousel Syracuse offered me an extension. I looked at the goals and decided not to sign. For an OC they seemed pretty extreme. However, I didn't reject the proposal so I would keep that option open in carousel and see if anythnig better came. Well, this time I waited and waited and waited... nothing, not even interest. By the halfway point my Syracuse OC job came up and I formally declined... the job was given to Houston's OC and now Syracuse goes from I/Pistol custom to AIR RAID... since I had terrible receivers this will be a tough transition I suspect. However, I wait another 4-5 teams and finally I see my name... I'm up for the BUFFALO job. I figure it's mine and I am excited about the challenge... and then I find out the recently fired Jimbo Fisher was given the HC position. Then I get nothing for another 3-4 offers and then right out of the blue, totally off the radar, not a thought in my head... CAL has me in the running. Long story short, I am the underdog candidate and the job is given to me. I look at the goals for a three year contract... pretty good... so I sign on the line and take over the HC reigns for CAL.

    Not that it does anything for the game but both of my coordinators are new: A 3-4 DC and an ARMY OPTION OC. I run a custom multiple book and a 4-3 but I digress. The real kicker for me though... I HATE CAL!!! I really do hate them. In 11 I was ASU and this was an awesome rivalry. It will be tough to actually use them now and go up against "my" team. Before I signed the cpu said I would not be able to sign any other offers for three years... why??? The only downside of signing with CAL... my ALMA MATER HC was fired and that job came up two teams after I signed. Oh well, Indiana, our paths will cross again one day.
    Last edited by jaymo76; 07-19-2011 at 05:13 PM.

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    I really like the addition of coaching carousel. However, I feel that there are some improvments that are needed next year. Some of those things are

    Improved progression- Perhaps a max of one full letter grade per year?

    Improved hiring logic-Head coaches at smaller schools who do well should be getting jobs at bigger schools. The mid to low level schools should be the ones hiring coordinators. Head coaches should not be taking coordinator jobs.

    More ratings-recruiting, teaching, offense, defense, and special teams to name a few

    Coordinators- There should be more of an emphasis on hiring a coordinator that mtches your scheme. For example, Paul Johnson would never hire Mike Leach as his OC. Also, the user should be able to hire/fire their coordinators if they are a HC.

    I'd also like to see more cutscenes of the HC and coordintors and some more custimazation options. I really am glad it was put in, and I don't expect this all in the first year. Coaching carousel has the potential to be the best feature EVER. EA just needs to keep improving it.
    Last edited by volstopfan14; 07-19-2011 at 06:09 PM.

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    So far the biggest shock to me has been well Joe Pa retiring in 2013, and his replacement.....Miami's Mark D'Onofrio. I will say WVU has gone through 3 coaches in 3 years, it's hysterical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyKirch View Post
    So far the biggest shock to me has been well Joe Pa retiring in 2013, and his replacement.....Miami's Mark D'Onofrio. I will say WVU has gone through 3 coaches in 3 years, it's hysterical.
    That's interesting... Joe Pa retired in 2013 with my dynasty too. D'Onofrio was also in the running for the job but didn't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    That's interesting... Joe Pa retired in 2013 with my dynasty too. D'Onofrio was also in the running for the job but didn't get it.
    I think Joe Pa is retiring in 2013 for everyone. He did in my test Online Dynasty, and did in my test offline Dynasty. I want to think one of the community day guys said there is a certain age limit that coaches will retire within a year or two of reaching. Regardless of what the actual number is, Joe Pa is WAAAY over that number. So he's pretty much done and gone in 2013 for everyone.

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    [QUOTE=volstopfan14;87330]ICoordinators- There should be more of an emphasis on hiring a coordinator that mtches your scheme. For example, Paul Johnson would never hire Mike Leach as his OC. Also, the user should be able to hire/fire their coordinators if they are a HC.[QUOTE]

    Oh, that stinks...we can't hire and fire our Coordinators if we're HC's??

    That was one of the coolest things I thought (assumed) we'd be able to do!! Bums me out a bit.

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    When you are the HC, the coordinators seriously don't matter at all. The school runs what you decide if you are the HC, no matter what the coordinators do.

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    Joe Pa retired after year 1 in my dynasty so 2011 was his last

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    When you are the HC, the coordinators seriously don't matter at all. The school runs what you decide if you are the HC, no matter what the coordinators do.
    Yes, but I thought that Coaches give the players certain "bonuses" and such. That's the reason I was thinking it would be cool and all. Maybe even to help with your Recruiting aspect seeing as you'd have a good Staff and all that.

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    WVU fired Holgorsen in my dynasty as well despite the fact that he had a ridiculous A+ prestige rating seemingly from the get-go.

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    Mack Brown still has NOT been fired. He has an 18% approval rating and is below 500. This is his fourth and final year of the contract. He has had zero winning seasons, no bowls, etc. His apporval rating is now a D. Some coaches it appear just can't be fired. On a sidwenote, Paul Wulff of Washingotn St. was fired... WSU will now be running a flexbone... interesting...

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    Yeah, I think someone like Mack Brown would have to go 0-12 for about 5 straight years before Texas would actually fire him.

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