Jim Tressel Has Resigned

[SmoothPancakes]

sports that dont garner national attention, dont have an argument...of course there will always be the pin head trying to argue that Lacrosse and womens bowling is getting screwed when no one gives a damn about them.....theres a waste of funding, womens college bowling..mens too haha

Whether anyone gives a damn or not doesn't matter. If you're going to pay the athletes of one sport, then ALL athletes of ALL sports should be getting paid. Otherwise, hello a shit ton of lawsuits from all those athletes of the "sports no one gives a damn about". And like I said, real great message you're sending, this group of athletes are more entitled than that group of athletes, if you just pay college football and no one else, or football and basketball and no one else.

And trust me, some of those sports, soccer, lacrosse, tennis, etc, DO have large followings/fanbases. Just because you might not give a damn about them, doesn't mean no one gives a damn.

[oweb26]

I agree with austin that only a handful of programs has that kind of money, but that is exactly why it's relevant, isn't this problem only effecting a handful of schools? Schools that have the money to get these players and the kind of boosters willing to pay? I doubt you will hear of UT-Chattanooga paying anyone.

I am in total agreence that all athletes should be paid, but I feel like it should be on a sliding scale. The tennis scholar knows that by majority there career will end in college so their free education means alot more than someone who can make alot more doing playing their sport so again smooth your agrument doesnt hold that much weight, plus the tennis player doesn't have to go to college to go professional they can go pro at 16 if they are good enough, so can the bowler, track star, or pretty much every other sport besides the cash cows.

PS. I gotta subscribe to this thread so I can get phone updates.

[souljahbill]

Also, let it be said that while Ohio State may be making millions of Pryor, I doubt a school like Western Kentucky is making millions off of whoever their best player is. Because SOME players are underpaid pros doesn't mean every football player is so it is important to protect the amateur status as much as possible.


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[oweb26]

This thread has morphed so far beyond Jim Tressel who cares about him anymore. We might need to lobby for a title change.

[ram29jackson]

Whether anyone gives a damn or not doesn't matter. If you're going to pay the athletes of one sport, then ALL athletes of ALL sports should be getting paid. Otherwise, hello a shit ton of lawsuits from all those athletes of the "sports no one gives a damn about". And like I said, real great message you're sending, this group of athletes are more entitled than that group of athletes, if you just pay college football and no one else, or football and basketball and no one else.

And trust me, some of those sports, soccer, lacrosse, tennis, etc, DO have large followings/fanbases. Just because you might not give a damn about them, doesn't mean no one gives a damn.

I'm not sending the message Smooth, its already the status quo.


the fact is ,no, the other sports dont generate enough attention for any valid argument. Its the football program or Basketball depending on the school, that generates serious revenue for an entire season. No one gives a damn about the other sports on tv till play off time and even then are only shown because there is nothing else to show.
Its political correctness that dictates we need to televise womens softball and basketball when the fact is ,no one watches it and it generates little revenue if any. Of course they never will pay college athletes but if so a criteria for max generated income would have to be met for the players to get anything and most football programs would be the only ones to qualify.

while womens water polo might be fascinating for most men to watch, its really a waste of money and time haha

[ram29jackson]

Also, let it be said that while Ohio State may be making millions of Pryor, I doubt a school like Western Kentucky is making millions off of whoever their best player is. Because SOME players are underpaid pros doesn't mean every football player is so it is important to protect the amateur status as much as possible.


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which is why I say a school would have to reach an income level to be qualified to give an allowance of some sort..so , again, the big schools would always still win because thats where the kids want to go for money

[ram29jackson]

This thread has morphed so far beyond Jim Tressel who cares about him anymore. We might need to lobby for a title change.

no it hasnt. This is the J Tressel, college corruption thread haha

[oweb26]

while womens water polo might be fascinating for most men to watch, its really a waste of money and time haha

I cant agree with its a waste of time, water polo is putting some girl through college, (even though they are playing water polo and could have paid for college anyway more than likely, thats not exactly something poor people play) and I am all for that, but as you stated its the PC in this world that says we have to show it and do for everyone across the board.

[oweb26]

no it hasnt. This is the J Tressel, college corruption thread haha

Prefect thread title...MODS we need a name change.

[ram29jackson]

do schools in England give Dart throwing scholarships?...just a thought...?

[AustinWolv]

This thread has morphed so far beyond Jim Tressel who cares about him anymore. We might need to lobby for a title change.

Here you go: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...4_D4E14K6.html

[ram29jackson]

liar liar vest on fire



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[JeffHCross]

For some humor, and not trying to pile on Jeff too much as he's like one of the few rational good O$U fans out there, but this is just too amusing of a quote not to share from Tom Dienhart over at Rivals:

Oh, and I totally agree with Dienhart on that one. I honestly don't know what to think about President Gee's ridiculous quote. I know he was joking, but I also know he's smart enough to know better. He's a very good President, and I'm glad to have him (and the people calling for his resignation are incredibly foolish). But man, oh man, what a ridiculous quote.

President Gee is a football fanboi, but personally I like that. I think it just got the better of him that day.

Here you go: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...4_D4E14K6.html

As far as FERPA's concerned ... I can say from first-hand experience that Ohio State is very protective when it comes to FERPA. I got a lesson in FERPA when a student in my department went missing. Certainly looks like we've abused it though, based on that article.

As far as new news goes ... my reaction to Pryor's car may have been an overreaction ... 80,000 miles on that sucker. I still have a feeling that something he did is going to end up being the catalyst for problems -- but maybe not this car, at least.

And here's OSU LB Tyler Moeller's thoughts on the whole mess. An interesting read, at least.

[AustinWolv]

So Rolle turned down a car. But in the article I saw of his interview, nobody thought to ask him who offered him the car????

Some good journalism right there.

As for Tyler, he forgot #6: I am mad at Coach Tress for plainly lying over a long period of time to keep the stars around in order to win some games instead of practicing what he preaches. It is disappointing that he was willing to sacrifice all of us and OSU football for a few instead of showing faith and trust in the players who didn't cheat the rules. (Well, except for the juice that a bunch of guys are on.......)

:p

Tyler's 'story' is what should be expected.......the supposed story of pretty much any college athlete out there.

[ram29jackson]

So Rolle turned down a car. But in the article I saw of his interview, nobody thought to ask him who offered him the car????

Some good journalism right there.

As for Tyler, he forgot #6: I am mad at Coach Tress for plainly lying over a long period of time to keep the stars around in order to win some games instead of practicing what he preaches. It is disappointing that he was willing to sacrifice all of us and OSU football for a few instead of showing faith and trust in the players who didn't cheat the rules. (Well, except for the juice that a bunch of guys are on.......)

:p

Tyler's 'story' is what should be expected.......the supposed story of pretty much any college athlete out there.

that was 20-30 years ago dude, If you want to win in big time college sports, the Tressel way is how it is done

[AustinWolv]

I know that isn't a fact in fact.

[ram29jackson]

I know that isn't a fact in fact.

how so ? the last decade is nothing but pure evidence that its true. The top 20 schools do anything they can to get the best meat on the field and that involves money and under the table promises. Its reality-period

[AustinWolv]

Prove it for each team. Or the next 50 that EACH of them is in fact doing it through the school's program.

[ram29jackson]

Prove it for each team. Or the next 50 that EACH of them is in fact doing it through the school's program.

of course I dont have folders full of stuff haha. But it doesnt take much to understand that when 2 or 3 teams are pegged in a short period of time that this is just the tip of the problem. And I'm just trying to converse about it, I'm not trying to troll or get under anyone's skin. I'm approaching this like when my friends and I get together with a couple beers and debate stuff, so dont take it personal.
I'm sorry, but in the real world, more people are dishonest then not and even those who start out decent go with the flow eventually. Sure , I dont like it nor do I defend it, But if you look at it logically you realize this is how its done...and one reason its becoming more obvious now is the BCS trying to deflect attention to themselves after it being obvious they want a bowl system because it greases their pockets. Before, it was , you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Now, everyone is looking over their shoulder trying to point the finger elsewhere.

averages- if you find one school doing it, that means 5 to 10 are doing the same thing
I already listed 5 schools over the last 5 years who were busted for something , that means its no shot in the dark minority project. And the North Carolina player who was highly sought after said it loud and clear "everyone does it "

you want that 50, just go to the NCAA offices and see if they let you look at their folders, or the ones they keep of their personal financial records haha

[AustinWolv]

{rolling eyes}

'everyone is doing it' is played out and a cop out by the guilty. Plenty of athletes at major schools refute that.

Remember there is a distinction between complicit programs that foster the atmosphere and cheat versus the rogue player who breaks rules on his own. There is much more of the latter than the former.