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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    I don't know about that. On paper the NFC South is a strong division but the Bucs are unproven, who knows what will happen with the Saints after all the bounty scandal, and the Falcons have an uncanny ability for blowing their opportunities. If Newton can repeat what he did last year they will be an interesting story. Now do I think they will make the playoffs or win the SB... no. But never say never.
    You can look at it the other way too. Tampa Bay is only two years removed from a double-digit win season, New Orleans still has Drew Brees, and Atlanta is due.

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    Atlanta is due as far as Matt Ryan can take them...which so far has been to 1st round exits of the playoffs.

    Tampa can't seem to get it right and I don't expect they will this season with a 1st year head coach.

    New Orleans..though they still have Drew Brees and a bevy of talent on the field...kind of hard to replace both the HC and Vitt (forgot what position he held believe OC) at the same time. Not to mention the other suspensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    Atlanta is due as far as Matt Ryan can take them...which so far has been to 1st round exits of the playoffs.

    Tampa can't seem to get it right and I don't expect they will this season with a 1st year head coach.

    New Orleans..though they still have Drew Brees and a bevy of talent on the field...kind of hard to replace both the HC and Vitt (forgot what position he held believe OC) at the same time. Not to mention the other suspensions.
    I totally agree about Matt Ryan. Matty Ice is not an appropriate nickname for him. He has to step up if Atlanta is expected to get further.

    As for Brees, there was a great article on NFL.com that talked about how the OC in New Orleans took on a lot of responsibility when Payton got hurt last year and has worked with Brees since 2002. He didn't think the offense would suffer at all.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ut-sean-payton

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    Steeler's slap Wallace in the face by signing Antonio Brown to a huge deal! 5 years 42.5 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryby6969 View Post
    Steeler's slap Wallace in the face by signing Antonio Brown to a huge deal! 5 years 42.5 million.
    He showed up ready for work on time

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    He showed up ready for work on time
    I know, and I am sure it has been in the works for quite a while. The timing is just funny.(unless you are Mike Wallace )

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    There's still plenty of cap space for Wallace. He just has to sign his tender and show up. Until then, no negotiations. Emmanuel Sanders and Keenan Lewis both said they expect that to happen next week. We'll see.

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    More lowballing from the Steeler front office. Give a dude that doesn't deserve it the money all the while you piss off the dude who has been the best WR since Hines Ward on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    More lowballing from the Steeler front office. Give a dude that doesn't deserve it the money all the while you piss off the dude who has been the best WR since Hines Ward on the team.
    Boy, that's way off, mors. Brown is a more complete receiver. Runs better routes, catches the ball all over the field, has much better hands, and is the first player in league history to have 1k receiving and 1k returning in a season.

    The Steelers haven't lowballed anyone. The just don't negotiate with holdouts. You may think it's dumb, but they are the winningest franchise in the Super Bowl era, as well as the winningest since Free Agency began. They know what they're doing, and it works.

    Wallace will get signed, if and when he reports for camp. The need him too. They will lock him up long term, unless he's a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    Boy, that's way off, mors. Brown is a more complete receiver. Runs better routes, catches the ball all over the field, has much better hands, and is the first player in league history to have 1k receiving and 1k returning in a season.

    The Steelers haven't lowballed anyone. The just don't negotiate with holdouts. You may think it's dumb, but they are the winningest franchise in the Super Bowl era, as well as the winningest since Free Agency began. They know what they're doing, and it works.

    Wallace will get signed, if and when he reports for camp. The need him too. They will lock him up long term, unless he's a moron.
    +1

    They usually don't negotiate once the season starts either.

    And Brown is the better complete WR. Wallace's production tailed off near the end a bit. But Brown's did not. He goes over the middle down field and has a great set of hands. I remember Coach Tomlin raving about him last off season saying how much work he put in and he expected him to have a great year. He did, showed up to work on time, didn't complain and got his deal.

    Wallace should know this is the Steelers MO. He will get his deal but it won't be by the way he is handling it now.

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    So, looks like the Brownie bitches are about to be owned by a Steelers fan. Too fucking funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    +1

    They usually don't negotiate once the season starts either.

    And Brown is the better complete WR. Wallace's production tailed off near the end a bit. But Brown's did not. He goes over the middle down field and has a great set of hands. I remember Coach Tomlin raving about him last off season saying how much work he put in and he expected him to have a great year. He did, showed up to work on time, didn't complain and got his deal.

    Wallace should know this is the Steelers MO. He will get his deal but it won't be by the way he is handling it now.
    Actually, the Steelers DO NOT negotiate once the season starts (not just "usually").

    I'm more than certain that Wallace and Bus Cook know how the Steelers operate. From here, Wallace will just show up when he feels he's missed enough camp, or he'll show up in Week 11 to get his accrued season so he can be a UFA next year.

    From what his teammates are saying, he'll be in camp soon. We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    He showed up ready for work on time
    Agreed!

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    Skip well said. Wallace needs to strap on the pads and get his ass to camp. He is only hurting himself right now in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    Skip well said. Wallace needs to strap on the pads and get his ass to camp. He is only hurting himself right now in the long term.
    Yep like Coach Tomlin said..."it's unfortunate for himself"

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    And that's utterly ridiculous and BAD operation standards in my opinion. The dude has one chance to get paid before he's hit the time where it's all downhill and he wants to get as much money as his play deserves. If the Steelers don't give him Top 5 WR pay, I can GUARANTEE you some other team will because he most definitely deserves it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    And that's utterly ridiculous and BAD operation standards in my opinion. The dude has one chance to get paid before he's hit the time where it's all downhill and he wants to get as much money as his play deserves. If the Steelers don't give him Top 5 WR pay, I can GUARANTEE you some other team will because he most definitely deserves it.
    Every team in the league had a shot at him during the RFA period for the price of a first rounder. A few of the teams needing a WR had 2 number ones and alot of cap room. No one gave him a sniff.

    Your GUARANTEES are almost ALWAYS wrong, lol. The Steelers know what they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureBoy View Post
    Is the NFL Network worth an extra ten bucks on my cable bill?
    No.

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/07...elf-yet-again/

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    I'm a Steelers fan. Love Mike Wallace. But he is not a top 5 WR IMO. He's lost it if he thinks he can or will get Fitzgerald money.

    Larry Fitzgerald
    Calvin Johnson
    Andre Johnson
    Greg Jennings
    You could add (Bowe, Austin, etc)

    In no order and I'm probably forgetting someone but Wallace isn't there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    Every team in the league had a shot at him during the RFA period for the price of a first rounder. A few of the teams needing a WR had 2 number ones and alot of cap room. No one gave him a sniff.

    Your GUARANTEES are almost ALWAYS wrong, lol. The Steelers know what they're doing.

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    It wasn't one first rounder, it was TWO first rounders. NO WR is worth that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    I'm a Steelers fan. Love Mike Wallace. But he is not a top 5 WR IMO. He's lost it if he thinks he can or will get Fitzgerald money.

    Larry Fitzgerald
    Calvin Johnson
    Andre Johnson
    Greg Jennings
    You could add (Bowe, Austin, etc)

    In no order and I'm probably forgetting someone but Wallace isn't there yet.
    Greg Jennings isn't Top 5 and neither is Austin or Bowe. You're nuts if you'd take either three of those over Wallace.

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