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I think the funniest thing about Kiffin getting fired, they pulled him off the team bus at the airport to fire him, then the school administrators that were there told the bus to leave without him. :D
Got fired at the airport and got his ass left behind. Had to get his own ride home from the airport. :D
I actually think that's pretty rude. Yeah, he didn't work out as coach but he's still a human being. That's pretty disrespectful to just leave him basically "on the side of the road" (regardless of it being at an airport or not). The man's stuff was on the bus. Be classy. Meet with him back at the school. Allow the man to drive home in his own car and not force him to get a taxi or call for a ride. It may be amusing but it was classless.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Did that really happen? If so I am with souljahbill, very poor taste.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. You wanted him gone, now that he is gone he was set up to fail? Look, this guy has managed to vindicate Al Davis!! He has gotten his jobs because of his dad, pure and simple. Steve Spurrier's son is a good recruiter and WR coach and will probably get a HC job one day somewhere like LA Tech where Derek Dooley started but really only a gold medal bullshit story artist could land UT and S.Cal as his first two jobs. Well, money talks and BS walks. I'm sure he is good enough to please the folks at somewhere like UTEP. BTW Dooley got UT because of his name as well...........Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
Moral of the story? Names, dads, bullshit or any combination of the three may get you a great job (anywhere) but if you don't produce to the expectations it/they won't keep the job.
look at all the crap that USC has to deal with. we had a player take a golf cart ride across campus a couple of years ago and got suspended for a game. half of the sec is getting paid right now and JF is allowed to sign away his image to only lose a half? you can argue anything you want, but no one can argue that USC has been given fair treatment by the ncaa these past couple of years with all the stories coming out about schools breaking rules. we got raped up the ass with their treatment and sanctions. every other school got a resulting slap on the wrist. seriously, losing 30 scholarships over 3 years takes a big toll on your program. we had 56 healthy scholarship players available for ASU, 5 of which are currently being redshirted, so that left us with 51 players. having to deal with those numbers the past couple of years, kiff did alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
kiff can be a good coach. i'll stand by that statement. last year, we played oregon, scored 53 or 51, i forget and lost. we scored 41 against asu and lost. go to any coach in America and tell them that they'd score 50+ and 41 and they'd still lose the game, and they'd laugh at you. my main problem with kiff, is that once he gets the lead, he immediately goes into conservative mode with his playcalling. he's the opposite of PC, who always went for the jugular. he's just like his dad in that sense, and he is a bit of a control freak. during the WSU game, our rb tre madden, rushed for 39 times. our rb coach wanted to sub in other players, but kiff overruled him. same thing happened during utah state only it was with an o-linemen. for some reason, kiff wanted a particular player playing, who kept missing assignments, instead of the backup, whom the o-line coach recommended.
dont even bother bringing up al davis. he was the ultimate control freak owner in the nfl. kiffin is a tremendous, elite level talent evaluator and it greatly shows because he strongly urged davis not to draft jamarcus russell and instead draft calvin johnson. he's also had far more hits than misses in recruiting.
he was fired because he didnt do good enough. cant be mad as USC because there are only a few coaches out there who could have done the same job or better than kiff and they're all at elite universities. given the hand that he was dealt from the start, he'd get a B for his job performance. unfortunately, I and most USC fans/alumni demand higher.
Being an "elite level talent evaluator" does not mean he is a good coach. I continue to shake my head though......SCAL hired him to do a job that only "a few coaches could have done the same or better........." then he is was given a raw deal.......you the fans and demand better........ I'm lost here........only a few could do as well or "better".......the raw deal is still raw imo........Why fire him??? Who are you going to get?? Who are the elite that could do better, given the rawness?? BTW Sarkisian will be your next coach and unlike your overrated former "coach", he is a now proven commodity..... :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
In all actuality USC had 75 football Scholarship players available for ASU. Now that is unless 19 of them truly injured which would bring up a totally different issue within that staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
The way you made it sound your making it sound like USC lost 30 scholarships each season which would be 90 total over 3 years which it isn't it was 30 total over 3 years. Given the recruiting classes that USC pulls and the talent they have there is no excuse for the terrible job and under performing play from the USC football team. Someone has to take that responsibility and there is no one else more deserving then Kiffin given his track record, and attitude.
Bottom line USC would be in better shape now without him and then firing the whole staff and starting fresh. USC has a tremendous history and it would be easy for them to find someone much better then Kiffin to lead this program back towards a competitive team then one with a bunch of players with the same attitude as their coach.
The kickoffs in that ASU game were a joke as USC players just stood their if it went over their head and their attitude or posture in doing so was not very becoming of a team but of individuals.
whats funny is I have Arizona State on my fantasy roster league I play with friends. I used them because of the point spread but didn't expect that outcome LOL...odd though, not often do you get fired in the middle of a winning record-they were 3-2 after all- I understand of course the quality of wins and losses and conference was sub par but there have to be more reasons than just that..."i'm above .500".."so what ,youre still fired"
he should have been gone after last years bowl game. The fact is I think Haden knew he wouldn't do that good but figured no one else would take the job till some of the NCAA crap had passed, so ride it out for the sanction period. In essence, Kiffin was the ultimate interim coach.
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SC hired him because he was the only one offered the job. for some reason, for ad mike garrett like kiffin during his time here in 06? i never said he is a good coach. i said he can be a good coach. he just needs to learn to trust his staff's suggestions, let another coach call plays, and not try to micromanage every aspect of the game but to just let his players play. his recruiting, gameplanning, talent evaluation, and dealing with stuff behind the scenes (that most fans dont hear about) are his strengths. i'll support kiffin because he came here knowing full well that there were probably gonna be sanctions levied on the program, even though the evidence wasnt there to support it. for that, i thank him. the fans deserve better though, because his playcalling has been absolutely terrible this season and last, with the exception of a few games. same plays in the same situations are being called, and the opposing defenses know whats coming. with the talent we have, we shouldnt be going 7-6 or losing to washington state.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
sark is gonna be given a long term extention to UW, but his gameplanning for every game is/was no where near as detailed as what kiffin's was. that comes from the 247 sports USC insider who's been with the team the past 10 years.
we dont have 75 scholarship players on the roster right now, so that is untrue. i believe we started the year with 69 scholarship players but have lost 10-13 to injuries, mostly serious ones. i think 4 walkon's were awarded scholarships but they have gone down as well (temporary injuries). add in the redshirts and we're playing with nfl team numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
i said we lost 30 scholarships over 3 years. not 30 per year. 30 per year and we wouldnt be able to sign anyone. i agree that there's no excuse for the poor play. our offense was lighting the defense up in spring because coach helton (qb coach) was calling all of the plays in the practices and scrimmages. then in fall camp, kiffin suddenly decides that he's gonna call plays and our offense goes to shit, while the defense plays lights out (except for asu).
we are in better shape without him. we'll keep all of the assistants with the exception of o-line coach james cregg, who was kiff's best bud, and possibly qb coach clay helton.
coaching search names (no order): pat fitzgerald, gary patterson, chris petersen, kevin sumlin, or james franklin. del rio and fisher are 2 nfl names being thrown out there but we'd like to get an offensive minded college coach...not an nfl one. petersen is a long shot because his family feels more comfortable in texas rather than LA.
Sorry this didn't paste right through phone but you guys have 74 scholarship players not 69.
http://usc.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=995&CID=1101304
Scholarship Distribution Chart
Pos.
Freshman
Sophomore
Junior
Senior
QB (3)Max BrowneCody Kessler*
Max Wittek*
RB (7)Justin Davis
Ty IsaacJavorious Allen*
Tre Madden*D.J. Morgan*Silas Redd
John Akiba*+
FB (2)Soma Vainuku*
Jahleel Pinner
WR (8)Darreus Rogers
Steven MitchellVictor Blackwell*
Nelson AgholorMarqise Lee
George FarmerDe'Von Flournoy*
Cody Skene*+
TE (3)Jalen Cope-FitzpatrickXavier Grimble*
Randall Telfer*
OL (13)Chad Wheeler*
Zach Banner*
Jordan Simmons*
Nico Falah
Khaliel RodgersCyrus Hobbi*
Max TuerkAundrey Walker
Marcus Martin
Giovanni Di Poalo*David Garness*
John Martinez*
Kevin Graf*
DE (5)Leonard Williams
Greg Townsend Jr.*George Uko*
J.R. Tavai
Delvon Simmons
NT (3)Kenny BigelowAntwaun Woods*
Cody Temple*
OLB (7)Scott Starr*
Jabari Ruffin*Charles Burks*Marquis Simmons*
Kevin Greene*
Morgan Breslin
Devon Kennard*
ILB (7)Michael Hutchings
Quinton PowellAnthony Sarao*Hayes Pullard*
Lamar DawsonSimione Vehikite*
Kyle Yatabe*+
CB (6)Chris Hawkins
Devian Shelton*Ryan Henderson*
Kevon SeymourAnthony Brown*Torin Harris*
S (7)Su'a Cravens
Leon McQuay IIIJoshua Shaw*
Dion Bailey*Demetrius Wright
Gerald Bowman
John Auran*+
ST (3)Peter McBride*
Kris Albarado*Andre Heidari
Total
19 of 75#
21 of 75#
17 of 75#
17 of 75#
* Redshirt year used
+ Walk-on awarded scholarship
# 75 scholarships permitted, 74 currently allotted to players (Reflecting 2013 season)
- See more at: http://usc.rivals.com/content.asp?SI....BrTBnWpL.dpuf
like i said before, we started with 69 and 4 walkon's were awarded scholarships as they were seniors. simi vehikite is no longer with the team. that puts us at 73 total.
max brown is redshirting unless some disaster happens,
dj morgan and silas redd are hurt,
rogers, mitchell, farmer are all hurt,
banner is done for the year, falah is redshirting, and garness has a nagging injury
townsend is done for the year, simmons is redshirting due to transfer rules,
vehikite is no longer with the team,
hawkins is redshirting barring a disaster, i think shelton is also battling injuries.
so around 58 players for the rest of the season who arent redshirting for sure or have injuries, plus a couple of players who have week to week injuries.
some other frosh players in line for a redshirt are ol rodgers, ilb's hutchings and powell
NFL teams dress 46 on gameday.
58? :easy:
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Just saw this on Twitter
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Yep. Fucking Congress.
Officially, it's not cancelled yet. The Department of Defense is waiting until noon on Thursday to make a decision one way or the other on whether or not to cancel the Air Force-Navy game. Word is, from the Colorado Springs Gazette, that they might be able to track down some private funding to pay for travel.
fixed for ya amigo :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
and USC is gearing up to sue the ncaa. :)) could be within the next month. i hope it happens and we end up destroying the ncaa for trying to destroy our program. :D
What are they going to sue the NCAA for? Reimbursement for Bush and Mayo payments :P sorry couldn't resist to :easy:Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
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Originally Posted by psusnoop
USC never paid bush. cant believe how many people still get that wrong. :fp: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
nothing sure as of yet, but it'll probably be for mishandling the initial case and for unfair treatment. scholarship retribution is being talked about, but we're mostly seeking damages from all the lost revenue. a big factor here, is the mcnair case and whats inside all of those sealed docs/emails.
one thing is for certain, the ncaa knows they fucked us big time, but they also know that they didnt follow rules or logic in order to fuck us. because of that, this could lead to the current ncaa's death. :D