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Originally Posted by JeffHCross
well, the fact is there is unrealistic logic in the game..defenders can basically cover two players at all times. Their body direction and momentum mean nothing..its in both madden and NCAA.
and then when they pick that stupid-go for int- feature, it can be a jump route festival.....freaking annoying and just another tool for lazy cheesers
The ticker is only on screen in Dynasty games as it is giving scores of CPU games. In Play Now (such as in the vid), there will not be a ticker. BTW, welcome to the site.Quote:
Originally Posted by qdog77
They sould of posted something today like a navy vs army game.
Here we go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY0x4oKcQiA
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Yep, Army/Navy would have been good. I've suggested using the academies for the next update, as a post-Memorial Day update.
Though I hope, for their sakes, that the team had today off.
I would LOVE to see a Quick Clip with Army-Navy. Granted, my opinion is just a tad bit biased. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teav9rmdAGAQuote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Happy Memorial Day...
In this weekly Quick Clip video we started a Dynasty to show case what scouting looks like when you 1st start a Dynasty. Later on we will do another video showing you how scouting will help you find gems or locate the busts.
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Is it just me or are those ratings extremely low? 4 star QB coming in as a 67 OVR. That one 5 star WR had ratings in catching categories all C and Ds? I don't want to read to much into it but.... :dunno:
I like what I see from the scouting! Notice how when you scout a player, not only do their attributes sometimes change but their overall changes as well. This really does make scouting seem important to me. Also, it looks like they've done a good job with making different positions scout differently. The QB had about half as many options to scout as the athletes, which makes sense.
Only thing I wasn't crazy about, looking at the list of the top prospects in the nation, once again seem to be skill position heavy. Lots of WR's, HB's and ATH's (8 of the top 10).
Throw Power and Throw Accuracy are the two main things, so if those are better than expected, he could come in at a 70 by the time he's 100% scouted. I think it was around 60% scouted in that video. He could be :4star: due to potential, but could be a bust. I've had :4stars: come in at that OVR level in 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
I like the layout changes for scouting. It's definitely interesting.
I would like to see how much is given if you only spent 20 or 30 minutes on the player instead of a whole hour. It would be nice to really maximize your time spent scouting by hitting as many players as possible instead of only 20 players. If I could get worthwhile information out of 20 minutes, that's 60 players that I have a decent idea of what to expect from them before finalizing my interest in them.
As a reminder, you get 20 hours in preseason, but only 3 hours a week during the season.
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In-season actually seems kinda pointless to me. Once I get some favorable results from the initial scouting, I don't much care after that cause I'll already know if I want to pursue the player or not. That extra time just seems like time I'll end up spending on :1star: players that I would try to get to come to my :3star: prestige school instead of some shitty :1star: prestige school.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Just to make sure you're aware, you can only scout players that are on your interest board. Obviously you can scout, decide you don't like him & remove him, but you can't just go out and say "scout these 40 guys for 30 minutes each".Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Yeah. I saw that, but I would definitely just go through, add 35 players, scout them to narrow it down, and then go fill it with more players to scout and narrow it down more.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
You don't go after non-green dot 4 and 5 star guys in-season?Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
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I really wish it weren't that random. If 10 minutes gave you 2 categories, I'd like to be able to pick the 2 I'm scouting. I don't care about anyone's stiff arm ratings because stiff arms don't work. If I'm looking at a receiver, I just want to know his speed, acceleration, agility, catching, and route running. I would actually fill my board up for once (instead of going 12 max) if I could scout what I'm really scouting for instead of waiting 3 weeks to finally unlock a WR catch rating because the slot machine didn't fall on it.
I like the simple approach to scouting. This is a good thing imo as the off the field recruiting already takes quite a bit of time. This is exactly what Madden needs to do for scouting. Last year's scouting was a waste of time.
Did anybody else notice these two things:
1) 60 minutes of scouting unlocks 12 attributes for DEF players and just 10 for the OFF guys (the 1st ATH gets 12 unlocked because he is obviously highest rated at CB with both high grades in MCV and ZCV) and (SS gets 12 unlocked for full 60 minutes of scouting) meanwhile the HB, WR, and ATH (who appears to be highest rated as a WR) only has 10 categories unlocked with a full 60 minutes of scouting. Strange that EA would do it this way giving preference to scouting defensive players since it unlocks more.
2)EA Tiburon completely changed their STR rating scale in terms of bench press totals. NCAA 12 had 432 BP= 80 STR, 372= 70 STR, and 312= 60 STR while NCAA 13 has them broken into more realistic 5 lb increments like SQT totals (390= 80 STR, 340= 70 STR, and 290= 60 STR. This change was needed for realism sake and I appreciate it.
Wast of disic space, this is just to increase sales by attracting casual games... Road to Glory is just the same. Unless the put as much into it as myplayer in 2K12 NBA...
wrong thread...
It's based on how many total ratings that position has. ATH gets more cuz they have the most attributes.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineJay
I never play with teams where that's even an option. I'm lucky to have a :4star: player interested in me at all, much less have the ability to steal them away from other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I don't play NCAA with highly rated teams. That's snoozeville, USA for me.
2nd ATH only gets 10 unlocked compared to 12 for 1st ATH scouted, its strange EA chose to do it that way based on OFF or DEF.
I've been able to get :4star: and :5star: guys that were not green dots that were still down to the Top 10 with a 1-star rated Army team. It may only happen once a year, but it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
boring..just show more game play action stuff..unless they fixed the logic so you arent stuck with guys rated in their 40s and you have take time to change those ratings every single year, I dont care about these changes really..I mean I care, but you can see that when the game comes out..just give me more on field stuff LOL
Not sure if that's intentional or coincidental. My understand was that the number unlocked would vary from player to player, not necessarily offense vs defense. Obviously I could be wrong or this could be their way to hide it but I wouldn't take it as gospel yet that it will indeed be that way 100% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineJay
*Edit
And actually, the :4star: QB has 11 attributes unlocked.
Still strange that 10 minutes scouting doesn't equal the same amount of unlocked attributes for any player. Unlocking attributes should be universal not position by position specific amounts that seems like a weird (and more tedious) way of doing it. Maybe it is just a bug who knows it just stood out to me as odd.
Not necessarily. Sometimes it might take you longer to properly evaluate different kids. Two kids running the same drill or watching film on two different kids would most likely give you different views on each kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineJay
This. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Maybe it is based off of what is scouted that week. 1st QB gets 11 unlocked but no scouting was done with THP THA while 2nd QB scouted gets 10 unlocked but you get both THP and THA unlocked. I would take the latter scouting and if it was under user control I'm sure 99% of people would choose THP and THA to be scouted rather than STR and STA. I'm fine with it, lol just seems weird since it is random and completely out of our control what is scouted.
I'm assuming it's completely random and there isn't any logic built in, like this guy already got THP scouted so this guy doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineJay
I agree though that it's kind of meh that you don't get to pick. Obviously if I'm a coach and scouting a QB, the first thing I'm looking at is his arm THA and THP. Then moving to Awareness, strength, injury.....
I noticed that AWR isn't scoutable as well. Maybe they still have it listed on recruiting screen after SQT, but I'm not liking the inability to know whether my incoming guys are football smart or as dumb as bricks on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
I thought awareness only affected QBs?
It affects penalties like jumping offsides or false starts for DL and OL. It also has a huge impact on ball in the air awareness for defenders. Having players on the field as dumb as bricks (below 70 AWR and your CPU controlled defenders are pretty clueless when the ball is in the air). If you get a CB or S with 90's AWR he will jump way more routes (warp into action to swat or pick it off). The CPU team well for them the AWR rating is really dependent on Difficulty level and the Pass Defense Slider because I've seen CPU 55 AWR DB's consistently jumping routes and doing the peel off deep coverage and get a pick 6 on another WR bs on Heisman default but that never happens for the User team's defenders(they require high AWR to play smart football).
For some reason I was under the impression that some ratings that were unlocked already could go up or down each week they were scouted until that rating reached a specific set number. So, What I am understanding now is that once a rating is unlocked that's what it remains as? For example, if I scout a QB and his THP comes in at 83, that rating can't change with further scouting?
So can you still create a player? Since you already know the ratings of a created player, how would this work? Are created players still able to be gems/busts?
No clue... I never mess with creating a player. I imagine though, he'd just be straight up how you created him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
So, uhm ... Freshman WR with 94 Carry. :o :confused: :dunce:Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Not sure what you mean here, but it's pretty much the opposite. AWR goes into the logic decisions for all players on the field. While it's impact for all players is debatable, since the player is always controlling the QB, AWR is basically negligent for QB (except that it affects how quickly a QB gets rattled and seems to affect accuracy of option pitches). But for defensive players, offensive linemen, etc, AWR is pretty important. It's not the most important stat at any given position, but I've seen my share of blown plays thanks to low AWR (mainly by DBs).Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Maybe a 94 Carry is poor scouting and the kid is actually a bust???
I may be wrong, but I think I remember reading/hearing that awareness only affects QBs when the game was simmed or what causes them to go robo or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross