NBA Live 14 (PS4 & XB1) General Discussion

From the part I played, Live would really benefit from a playcall menu or at least a notification. So when I call a play or quick play it would notify me that the play was called and the type/name of play. The ball physics also need improvement in regards to reacting off the rim or going into a player's hands. Either the ball does not register being contacted by the player quick enough or the players don't react quick enough. Maybe they can get the guys from FIFA to work on that, because the player reactions and ball physics in FIFA are very accurate/realistic.

With as difficult as it is to shoot from the outside on anything but Rookie, better shot feedback would be HUGE.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

With as difficult as it is to shoot from the outside on anything but Rookie, better shot feedback would be HUGE.

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I have no clue if I am shooting the ball correctly. Has there been any indiction from the developers of the possibility of adding a "shooting bar" for all shots?

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Originally Posted by Escobar

Is anyone having any problems actually getting the game to install? Once I finally got the game downloaded and started it up, all I have available is the tipoff mode. The bar at the bottom said installing and was only halfway done, but was not moving at all. I played half the tipoff game before I got frustrated with not being able to change any options whatsoever. Everytime I start the game up install progress has increased from the previous time, but does not increase while the game is actually on. Today I started the game and the bar was at the stripes on Kyrie Irving's right shoulder. I left the game on sitting at the main menu for almost an hour, come back and it's in the exact same spot -_-. I close the application then restart it hoping for a progress jump, but nope same spot.

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My game installed fine BUT it was the slowest install i have had on PS4. I was shocked how long it took to unlock the full game.

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I have no clue if I am shooting the ball correctly. Has there been any indiction from the developers of the possibility of adding a "shooting bar" for all shots?

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There is feedback where the disc glows white, and that's supposedly a good shot, but it doesn't always go in; which I think means it's also based on ratings as well.

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With as difficult as it is to shoot from the outside on anything but Rookie, better shot feedback would be HUGE.

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Completely agree here, I'm trying on PRO but not having much success yet. Maybe I should drop down but I'm not seeing it really helping my out really.

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Completely agree here, I'm trying on PRO but not having much success yet. Maybe I should drop down but I'm not seeing it really helping my out really.

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Granted this was using all bronze players, but I had a game yesterday where I didn't score until 4 minutes left in the 2nd quarter and ended up going 2/26 for 4 points in the entire first half. :D

I was looking at my player ratings. No wonder I suck. My free throw ovr is only 50.

Here are some things that I am seeing too much of:

CPU dribbling as the shot clock expires
CPU shots going off the side of the backboard
CPU blocks
Animations that result in out of bounds


I'm playing Rising Star as a PG for Utah on Pro with 5min qtrs. Here are some numbers from my last game, a 36-32 win at New Orleans.

75 shots combined, 11 blocks. My team had most of those, but a block for every 7 attempts sounds high.
My player was 4-5, but I just drive for a layup or I don't shoot. After being 2-2 at the line in the previous game, I was 0-2 in this one. I had 8 points, 6 assists, 2 rebounds and 4 turnovers in 18 minutes (of 20).

On the season Utah is 5-8. As a team, we are shooting .475 FG%, .304 3P%, & .573 FT%. My player is shooting .563. FG% and .613 FT%. I have not taken a 3. In spite of my layup only philosophy, I had a game where I was, like, 1-13 or something. :fp:

I'm averaging 12.5 PPG and 3.8 APG.

Stan your comments pretty much verify that there is no rhyme or reason to shooting. Everyone seems to have dismal shooting %. Do we all not know how to shoot or is the system flawed/broken?

This is a real pet peeve in rising star. I am only missing 1 minute or so per game and am an instant starter on the Nets, regardless of my low ratings. I get subbed once per game while Johnson, Garnett, Lopez, are subbed multiple times throughout the game.

A few other concerns with regards to rising star:

1. Does your team ever call a timeout???
2. Does your team ever switch defenses???
3. Do coaches use any strategy/switch up strategy?
4. Do manual user called double teams actually occur??? It seems like when I call them they don't???
5. Outside of scoring in the paint, does the cpu take any medium range shots???
6. Why does the cpu drive for two when they are down by three with less than 5 seconds left???
*** questionable AI at times for sure...
7. Why do cpu players miss so many easy baskets (both hum team and cpu team)

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

6. Why does the cpu drive for two when they are down by three with less than 5 seconds left???

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At the end of that game at NO last night, they in bounded the ball with ~:20 left down by four. They passed it around and passed it around, finally worked down to the low block where the PF dribbled for 4 or 5 seconds until time expired. :fp:

Also, I should have added 3 in the Key to my list of things I'm seeing too often.

Yeah that happens a LOT at the end of the game.

What is the deal with the lag time this week? it seems to take a good minute to load the updated rosters. my connection s fine. Anyone else seeing this issue?

Not a lot of people play this game so i just checked and for TODAY's scores I am currently #1 in live moments with 22,120 points. For the week i am in 25th (CDJ is 12th) and for the month I am in 21st with 123,160 points. i have no overall rank but CDJ is killing it as he currently is in 11th place. Nice job!

I just hit level 29 and have earned 138,586 xp points. The big/live moments are a lot of fun. I would actually have to say they are the best thing about Live 14 IMO. I love the variety of playing as all the different teams and a number of the challenges are very quick but very rewarding when you win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkKQq507xo

Ok, great.

Now I know how to miss a variety of shots.

:D

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I played a LUT game earlier tonight (second of college series, PRO difficulty) and shot 50% from the outside, but did not notice what my overall was though I am assuming 55-60%. Overall, I'm guessing my 3P% is 30-35% and overall 50+%, but most of those are inside the paint.


I don't have any secret for the success (my LUT team doesn't have that great of outside shooters), but one tip is that players need to be open. Even if wide open, I let them hold the ball for a split second before shooting - basically pretending they are setting their feet or something. If I try to shoot the ball as soon (or before) it is fully in their hands, it's almost always a miss.

Also, this may be a placebo but it feels like shooting the ball coming off of a play or move (spin move or screen, for example) boosts your odds. I feel like I make more shots this way.

I haven't played any randoms online, but I have heard some people say that post-patch with shot improvements it has turned into a three-point-fest, similar to how Live 10 was.

I definitely agree about plays seeming to increase success. When I was playing Dynasty, I gave up on 3 point shooting unless I got a good look off of a play. In Rising Star, I don't think my teammates take 3s unless off a set play.

Really getting frustrated with the slow roster load times. It took three minutes tonight to load the rosters and get into live moments...

Post Play Tutorial Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iNd2ZhdtmKY

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Really getting frustrated with the slow roster load times. It took three minutes tonight to load the rosters and get into live moments...

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Where did you experience the slowdown? On the initial roster check? When going into Live Moments? Both? Other modes?

I thought they had the issue fixed, but on Wednesday (maybe it was Tuesday), I thought it was starting to get slow again.

Well I am going to give this game a shot. From reading here and over at OS the dev team seems to actually give a crap about their game and is still working to improve it. I have $30 trade in with COD, so it cuts the price in half.

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Where did you experience the slowdown? On the initial roster check? When going into Live Moments? Both? Other modes?

I thought they had the issue fixed, but on Wednesday (maybe it was Tuesday), I thought it was starting to get slow again.

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I went into live moments and the roster loaded but it sat at 100% for three minutes before finally disappearing. It seems like as the week went on it was getting longer and longer to get into games.

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I went into live moments and the roster loaded but it sat at 100% for three minutes before finally disappearing. It seems like as the week went on it was getting longer and longer to get into games.

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I had it stall on the initial roster check for 5-7+ minutes tonight.


Also, on PS4 there is a new in-game update. For me (and I am seeing for others), it will crash the PS4 after install but restart the game and it will work just fine. There is no word from EA on what the updare does. :dunno:

Honestly not as bad as I was expecting. It is quirky in far too many areas but it has a foundation to work on. Graphically I thought everything looked fine outside of some of the players faces. The controls are a bit sluggish at times. You know, "Just a second guy on the sofa hitting the sprint trigger, be with you in a second or two." Only played a couple games on Pro and with San Antonio that Shooting setup using Real FG%/Skill is quite a treat. Much less of a treat when controlling Charlotte. Will probably end up running with the Spurs and trying it with skill only for both FT/FG. I did notice refs were letting me steal the ball at will and only got called for reaching in after about 5 or so failed attempts in a row. Even pushed a guy backwards a good two feet trying a steal and the ball fell right to me and I slammed it home. Ref did not seem to mind. No blood no foul, I guess?

Both of the guys at Gamestop, who I know and neither plays sports games, told me to get 2K14. I grinned and said no thanks. Picked up a used copy because none of the basketball developers (EA or 2K) deserved my money this year. After store credit it was $5, quite the steal.

The NBA Live twitter account says that the new in-game update features "numerous gameplay improvements."

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The NBA Live twitter account says that the new in-game update features "numerous gameplay improvements."

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The one that allegedly has to crash your system before it works?

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Originally Posted by Stan HAMsen

The one that allegedly has to crash your system before it works?

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Yes. :)

I tried to play last night but I could not get into the game. My screen stayed on the load screen with the circle spinning away. After five minutes I shut it off and played some pinball arcade. I wonder if that was a result of the update???

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Honestly not as bad as I was expecting. It is quirky in far too many areas but it has a foundation to work on. Graphically I thought everything looked fine outside of some of the players faces. The controls are a bit sluggish at times. You know, "Just a second guy on the sofa hitting the sprint trigger, be with you in a second or two." Only played a couple games on Pro and with San Antonio that Shooting setup using Real FG%/Skill is quite a treat. Much less of a treat when controlling Charlotte. Will probably end up running with the Spurs and trying it with skill only for both FT/FG. I did notice refs were letting me steal the ball at will and only got called for reaching in after about 5 or so failed attempts in a row. Even pushed a guy backwards a good two feet trying a steal and the ball fell right to me and I slammed it home. Ref did not seem to mind. No blood no foul, I guess?

Both of the guys at Gamestop, who I know and neither plays sports games, told me to get 2K14. I grinned and said no thanks. Picked up a used copy because none of the basketball developers (EA or 2K) deserved my money this year. After store credit it was $5, quite the steal.

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No, in all honesty the game has improved a lot since release and is in the process of becoming a solid title. Assuming of course that EA isn't one and done??? I heard that this game has only sold 48,000 copies thus far. If they can get quicker responses times, add a practise mode, fix end of game cpu logic and clear up how exactly shooting works, I will be satisfied. The learning curve in this game is massive. I am finally getting down free throw shooting after a couple weeks of games.

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No, in all honesty the game has improved a lot since release and is in the process of becoming a solid title. Assuming of course that EA isn't one and done??? I heard that this game has only sold 48,000 copies thus far. If they can get quicker responses times, add a practise mode, fix end of game cpu logic and clear up how exactly shooting works, I will be satisfied. The learning curve in this game is massive. I am finally getting down free throw shooting after a couple weeks of games.

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Hard to know the exact figures. Based on Vgchartz, which you have to take with a large grain of salt, currently shows to have sold 140,000 worldwide. NBA Live 10 sold 1,180,00 world wide but that was on systems with a much larger userbase.

I just can't see EA putting in all this extra work on the game to not be working on NBA Live 15, that is just not how EA works. They do not throw a bunch of time and effort into products that are retiring.

EA has been doing headscans of visiting teams/players as they come into Orlando to face the Magic (tonight is the Celtics turn) and they have said (this morning) there are more game updates to come for Live 14. I'm pretty confident there will be a Live 15. The bigger question is if Live 15 is panned and/or doesn't sell well, how committed they are.

jaymo - This slow roster update thing is bad. Anyone else running into it? JB says he has never had it happen.

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EA has been doing headscans of visiting teams/players as they come into Orlando to face the Magic (tonight is the Celtics turn) and they have said (this morning) there are more game updates to come for Live 14. I'm pretty confident there will be a Live 15. The bigger question is if Live 15 is panned and/or doesn't sell well, how committed they are.

jaymo - This slow roster update thing is bad. Anyone else running into it? JB says he has never had it happen.

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Yeah this whole week has just been awful. I didn't have any problems previous. The weird thing is that the roster load to 100% within a few seconds but for whatever reason it doesn't complete the process. I didn't see anyone bring it up on the Live forums and no mention of it over at OS. I wonder how many people have seen this issue?

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Yeah this whole week has just been awful. I didn't have any problems previous. The weird thing is that the roster load to 100% within a few seconds but for whatever reason it doesn't complete the process. I didn't see anyone bring it up on the Live forums and no mention of it over at OS. I wonder how many people have seen this issue?

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Usually after 7-10 minutes it kicks through, but tonight I have waited 20 minutes twice tonight with no luck.

From the handful of people where I did see it mentioned before (around Xmas/NY), we were all PS4 disc users but it seemed only a small % of people are seeing it. I looked at OS & the EA Forums and no one is mentioning it, so I don't see how an issue like this (everyone has to download rosters) only hits a handful of people.

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A few other concerns with regards to rising star:

1. Does your team ever call a timeout???
2. Does your team ever switch defenses???
3. Do coaches use any strategy/switch up strategy?
4. Do manual user called double teams actually occur??? It seems like when I call them they don't???
5. Outside of scoring in the paint, does the cpu take any medium range shots???
6. Why does the cpu drive for two when they are down by three with less than 5 seconds left???
*** questionable AI at times for sure...
7. Why do cpu players miss so many easy baskets (both hum team and cpu team)

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Played the Challenge and first game of season last night. Here is what I figured out for a few of your questions:

2. It looks like you can Quick Call different defenses, but coach will not.
1. I didn't try, but I assume user can call a timeout? Is that wrong?
4. On the first play of the game, I called for a double team and it worked. After that, it was very hit and miss. I need to look more and try to figure out the logic.
5. Post-update, the CPU (namely the player I was covering) took a good number of jumpers/outside shots. As a team, I don't think they took many jumpers though.
7. I didn't look at the Shot Chart, but I thought the close misses seemed reasonable. I assume my misses were due to poor ratings.

Sometimes calling the CUT play seemed to call ISO and vice versa. However, there were also times it worked correctly. The mode has potential, but there are a lot of issues that need ironed out (or expanded upon).

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Really getting frustrated with the slow roster load times. It took three minutes tonight to load the rosters and get into live moments...

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This morning it hung up on the initial roster check/download. I let it sit there for 30 minutes and it finally went through.

How does the game play after the update?

I'm about halfway through a dynasty season on NCAA. Next up is some kind of season on one of these next gen NBA games, most likely Rising Star or MyCareer.

So far, I'd say my overall experience with the NBA games is a wash. Live is/was pretty rough around the edges, but 2k had that weekend when the servers were down (at a time when I was really digging their game) and, of course the VC issues. The VC stuff scares me away from attempting MyGM, but the play call bug in Live's Dynasty kills that mode for me too.

Why does the VC stuff scare you?