2014-2015 College Football Discussion Thread

[dhook27]

Let's go Bucks
Let's go Georgia Tech

[souljahbill]

:D Oklahoma lost, Oklahoma State won. TCU beat both of them (and smoked the hell out of Oklahoma State). It pretty much cancels out after as TCU is concerned.

And with Alabama beating Missouri, Ohio State's coffin is nearly entirely nailed. Ohio State's ONLY chance now is for Georgia Tech to knock off Florida State. Alabama is a lock. Oregon is a lock.

TCU is, in my opinion, a lock, because why the hell would the committee jump them two spots up to #3 last week, ahead of Florida State, only to say "fuck you" and dump them out of the top 4 entirely the next week after they did exactly what they had to do, bitch slap Iowa State 55-3?

The only remaining question is Florida State. If Florida State wins, they're in and your top 4 (in unknown order) are Alabama, Florida State, Oregon and TCU. If Florida State loses, either Ohio State or Baylor will slip in. Assuming Ohio State even beats Wisconsin, which is FAR from even being claimed as a sure thing. With Barrett out, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Wisconsin beat Ohio State by 2+ touchdowns.

If FSU wins, they're in. The 4th is going to be Baylor or Ohio St. The committee is on the record as saying they hadn't considered Baylor's win over TCU yet because the resumes weren't complete. If Baylor #9 KSU, Baylor and TCU will have the same record and head-to-head finally comes into play. If strength of schedule starts trumping head-to-head then that diminishes the whole point of playing games in the first place.

[SmoothPancakes]

If FSU wins, they're in. The 4th is going to be Baylor or Ohio St. The committee is on the record as saying they hadn't considered Baylor's win over TCU yet because the resumes weren't complete. If Baylor #9 KSU, Baylor and TCU will have the same record and head-to-head finally comes into play. If strength of schedule starts trumping head-to-head then that diminishes the whole point of playing games in the first place.

Yeah, but strength of schedule still has to count for something. Sure, Baylor beat TCU, but that's not the end all, be all. TCU's only loss of the season came to a likely 11-1 top 6 Baylor. Baylor's lone loss of the season came to a 7-5 West Virginia, who was in the middle of a 3 game losing streak to end the year before they struggled out a 13 point win over a terrible Iowa State team. Baylor and TCU had similar non-conference schedules, the only difference is in TCU's favor as TCU played a top 25 8-win Minnesota, whereas Baylor played a 5-win Buffalo.

Yeah, head to head is important, but if you completely ignore the entire work of the season just because of head to head, then you likewise diminish the whole point of stronger non-conference schedules and entire seasons of work. Apparently the committee also has no problem jerking teams around all over the place in that case. If you jump a team two spots from #5 up to #3 (seemingly a quite safe ranking, much safer than #4, and that team the next week does their job and ass rapes their opponent, only to get flipped off and shoved back down 2+ spots because one game earlier in the season "wasn't being considered yet", then that's just as big of a fucking joke than anything the BCS ever produced.

If Baylor is such a great choice for the committee, then they would have damn well had them higher than 6 or 7 every ranking. I call bullshit if the only reason they have held Baylor so low every week is simply because they haven't played Kansas State yet for the past 3-4 weeks. Other than a 6-win Oklahoma State and a 4-win Texas Tech, Baylor hasn't played a "top" Big 12 team since Oklahoma four weeks ago. Kansas State was their only "top" Big 12 game left on the schedule. Baylor has shown who they are and if they were worthy of the top 4, especially compared to TCU, then the committee would have moved them up weeks ago instead of waiting an entire month just so Baylor could play Kansas State first.

If TCU, after doing what they were supposed to do, destroy the fuck out of Iowa State, is punished and dumped out of the top 4 simply because Baylor beat them back in the beginning of October (especially after the Big 12 has already declared they will be considered co-champions as far as the committee is concerned), then this entire college football playoff is already tarnished and a bigger joke than the BCS ever was before the first playoff games could even be played.

[souljahbill]

Winning the game should ALWAYS be the end-all-be-all. If it's not then I'm going to start calling the 18-1 New England Patriots the champs for that season.

[SmoothPancakes]

Well, the world isn't perfect. The Big 12 has declared TCU as co-champions and even gave them a trophy today as Big 12 co-champions. If the world was perfect and winning the game was the end all, be all, Baylor would be the outright champion and TCU would be left with nothing but their peckers in their hands.

[souljahbill]

Well, the world isn't perfect. The Big 12 has declared TCU as co-champions and even gave them a trophy today as Big 12 co-champions. If the world was perfect and winning the game was the end all, be all, Baylor would be the outright champion and TCU would be left with nothing but their peckers in their hands.

That's the Big 12 trying to get both teams in if FSU loses. Trying to play the "conference champion" card. It's mega lame on their part.
http://youtu.be/QGvAiotDdrA

[skipwondah33]

Winning the game should ALWAYS be the end-all-be-all. If it's not then I'm going to start calling the 18-1 New England Patriots the champs for that season.Yep

Just think it's ridiculous that FSU is 4.

And if one of the teama get in over TCU being replaced at 3 over FSU...this process and first year committee has been a joke IMO.

Not sure TCU should even be in but definitely not over FSU.

Name of the game is wins and losses.

[dhook27]

This team continues to amaze me.

[SmoothPancakes]

Well, now things completely change as Ohio State is brutally horse fucking Wisconsin tonight.

[dhook27]

If FSU wins, it'll be


Bama
Oregon
Ohio State
FSU

[SmoothPancakes]

There's no if about it now. Florida State leads 37-21 with 3 minutes left in the game. Now the wait to see if the committee will give the Bucks the nod or if they tell the Big Ten to piss off and pick TCU.

[souljahbill]

Ohio St. really made this interesting. Dropping fitty on Wisconsin with the 3rd string QB means I have no clue who 4 is. TCU should be out in my opinion. It should be

1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida St.
4. Ohio St.

The 2 True Champs should be 5 and 6.

[skipwondah33]

TCU should definitely be out

FSU should be 1 don't care what is said. Know it technically doesn't matter if you win in a playoff but still

They shouldn't be 4 either way lol

Ohio State should certainly be in. Not only are they winning with 3rd string but they are beating the brakes off a team they were suppose to lose to giving circumstances

Don't think Iowa State was ever to be a threat against TCU

[bdoughty]

Based of the performances today, I give Ohio St a chance at making the playoff. That is simply a beat down. The problem lies in the fact they had TCU bumped up toat #3. Hopefully all the commotion will get us closer to an 8 team playoff and the Big 12 going back to a conference championship.

Anyway the Jackrabbits almost pulled off the upset over NDSU. Had the lead until NDSU scored with under a minute left.

[dhook27]

Ohio State's 59 point victory margin against Wisconsin is greater than the victory margin of Florida State's last 8 games combined




Literal GOAT stat ahahah

[skipwondah33]

Yeah but in their 13 games they haven't lost 1

I'd probably take that stat over any others

[bdoughty]

Yeah but in their 13 games they haven't lost 1

I'd probably take that stat over any others

Bingo. Until they lose they are the top dog. Speaking of, "Literal GOAT stat ahahah."

Florida St beat Florida this year. Name the last time Ohio St beat Florida? :blush:

[SmoothPancakes]

And your playoffs are:

#1 Alabama (12-1) SEC Champs
#2 Oregon (12-1) Pac-12 Champs
#3 Florida State (13-0) ACC Champs
#4 Ohio State (12-1) Big Ten Champs

And first two out are:

#5 Baylor
#6 TCU

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[CLW]

Smells like the committee didn't want to have to make the call between :Baylor: :TCU: to me for :Ohio_State: to jump like that

[souljahbill]

And your playoffs are:

#1 Alabama (12-1) SEC Champs
#2 Oregon (12-1) Pac-12 Champs
#3 Florida State (13-0) ACC Champs
#4 Ohio State (12-1) Big Ten Champs

And first two out are:

#5 Baylor
#6 TCU

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I called it to a T on Facebook in that exact order this morning.

#IReadTheScript

[souljahbill]

It'll never happen because it gets ratings but the weekly ratings show shouldn't exist. Yeah, the talk is fun leading up to championship week but everyone would be better off if there everyone was in the dark until it's all said and done.

Aaaaaand it's time to go to 8 teams already. All Power 5 champs and 3 wildcards.

[CLW]

It'll never happen because it gets ratings but the weekly ratings show shouldn't exist. Yeah, the talk is fun leading up to championship week but everyone would be better off if there everyone was in the dark until it's all said and done.

Aaaaaand it's time to go to 8 teams already. All Power 5 champs and 3 wildcards.

I agree with that the Basketball Committee does not come out every week and let everyone know who's in who's out and who's got the #1 seeds it just comes out on the REAL selection Sunday.

[SCClassof93]

It'll never happen because it gets ratings but the weekly ratings show shouldn't exist. Yeah, the talk is fun leading up to championship week but everyone would be better off if there everyone was in the dark until it's all said and done.

Aaaaaand it's time to go to 8 teams already. All Power 5 champs and 3 wildcards.

Yeah and then #9 and #10 will whine :D

[morsdraconis]

Yeah and then #9 and #10 will whine :D

But #9 and #10 wouldn't have legitimate arguments. Baylor and TCU both have legitimate arguments. How is it that Ohio State plays 3 good teams all year, happens to blow one of them out in their CCG, and all of a sudden they're better than TCU? That's ridiculous. It looks to me that, if anything, it's the committee sticking it to the Big 12 for not having enough members to have a conference championship game.

[souljahbill]

It basically boils down to Baylor vs. Ohio St. TCU was eliminated the moment Baylor beat KSU. At that moment Baylor > TCU. So, in an argument between Baylor and Ohio St., Baylor's strength of schedule became their Achilles heel allowed Ohio St. to move up. If Baylor had lost, TCU would be in.

I just did a better job of explaining the obvious then every talking head on ESPN today.

[steelerfan]

I wonder how much Wisconsin is getting paid for putting Ohio State in the playoffs.

I #TrustTheScript

[dhook27]

Can't wait to see Jameis lose his first game http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/void0-12.gif

[bdoughty]

It basically boils down to Baylor vs. Ohio St. TCU was eliminated the moment Baylor beat KSU. At that moment Baylor > TCU. So, in an argument between Baylor and Ohio St., Baylor's strength of schedule became their Achilles heel allowed Ohio St. to move up. If Baylor had lost, TCU would be in.

I just did a better job of explaining the obvious then every talking head on ESPN today.

The least they could have done was shake up the bowl schedule so Baylor and TCU could have had a rematch in the Cotton Bowl. So we could finally determine our one true champion. :D

Big 12 just needs to add two teams and a conference championship. I would say BYU would be one of those teams but could you imagine their fans in Morgantown? They would have to double their missions after traveling there.

[dhook27]

Saban-Meyer IV

This is the stuff of legends guys

[volsfan]

After Saban-Meyer IV.

Meyer will have health issues again!

[SmoothPancakes]

After Saban-Meyer IV.

Meyer will have health issues again!

:nod:

:D

[dhook27]

After Saban-Meyer IV.

Meyer will have health issues again!


Oh lord a VoLs fan. yikes

[bdoughty]

Oh lord a VoLs fan. yikes

Yikes? Do you think he is going to make you squeal like a pig? Those are Georgia fans.

[JBHuskers]

Caption Time! :D

542076247879065602

[SmoothPancakes]

Despite the saying about Vegas, what happens in Tuscaloosa does not stay in Tuscaloosa.

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[bdoughty]

Once you go Pachyaderm... You don't sit straight for weeks.
Big Al was spotted at the free clinic later that day.

[SmoothPancakes]

Once you go Pachyaderm... You don't sit straight for weeks.
Big Al was spotted at the free clinic later that day.
You don't walk straight for weeks either. :D

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[bdoughty]

You don't walk straight for weeks either. :D

That is what I meant to say. Doh! I guess technically you would lay straight because you would be in a coffin.

[JeffHCross]

Not a chance. If everyone wins, how in the world does TCU plummet from 3rd to 6th?

Sent from my Droid Maxx using Tapatalk because I #TrustTheScript Opened the thread for, apparently, the first time in several days and this is the first post I read. Great job with #TrustingTheScript there, Smooth. :D Guess we got the answer.

[SmoothPancakes]

Opened the thread for, apparently, the first time in several days and this is the first post I read. Great job with #TrustingTheScript there, Smooth. :D Guess we got the answer.

:D

Yeah, that bit me in the ass. Of course, I don't think ANYONE expected THAT in the Big Ten CCG. If Ohio State had only won 20-14 or 31-30 or something, especially with a last minute drive/score, they don't end up making the playoff. Now as to whether or not Baylor had still jumped TCU in the final standings and gotten in or TCU had held onto a top 4 ranking, we'll never know. But after horsefucking a 10-win #13 Wisconsin to the tune of 59-0, there was pretty much no way the committee could ignore that and not put Ohio State in the field.

[JeffHCross]

I'm still in disbelief about the result. I started rewatching it on YouTube and I still don't believe it happened.

I agree with Cardale Jones:541625334689722368

[souljahbill]

I'm telling you, TCU was eliminated the second Baylor won as Baylor then owned H2H and was the One TRUE Champion. The debate was between Baylor and Ohio St. and with Ohio St. not only drubbing Wisconsin but having a superior OOC schedule killed Baylor's chances.

Had Baylor lost, TCU would be in and Ohio St. would be out.

[steelerfan]

Does Ohio State share their playoff $$$ with the other Big 10 schools? I'm not sure how that all works now.

[JBHuskers]

I'm telling you, TCU was eliminated the second Baylor won as Baylor then owned H2H and was the One TRUE Champion. The debate was between Baylor and Ohio St. and with Ohio St. not only drubbing Wisconsin but having a superior OOC schedule killed Baylor's chances.

Had Baylor lost, TCU would be in and Ohio St. would be out.
I still wonder if the CCG performance by OSU is what knocked TCU out, not Baylor winning. The ol' what have you done lately mentality. TCU played ISU. OSU blew out a ranked Wisconsin team in a CCG.

Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.

[JeffHCross]

Does Ohio State share their playoff $$$ with the other Big 10 schools? I'm not sure how that all works now.
More or less, yes:

Conference distribution model: all bowl revenue is distributed equally between member institutions (taking into account financial integration plans for newer members) after a pre-determined amount for travel and related expenses is provided to participating institutions.

OSU blew out a ranked Wisconsin team in a CCG. In their 13th game, no less.

[steelerfan]

I gotta wonder, Jeff, if Wisconsin didn't roll over for a payday.

I #TrustTheScript

[JeffHCross]

I gotta wonder, Jeff, if Wisconsin didn't roll over for a payday.

I #TrustTheScriptYou've been taking to Ram too much.

The difference between Ohio State getting into the playoff and just getting into the major bowls was "only" $2 million.

[steelerfan]

You've been taking to Ram too much.

The difference between Ohio State getting into the playoff and just getting into the major bowls was "only" $2 million.
Where'd you get those numbers, if I may ask?

I #TrustTheScript

[AustinWolv]

You've been taking to Ram too much.

The difference between Ohio State getting into the playoff and just getting into the major bowls was "only" $2 million.

Although one could argue there is increased money from/for other entities, what with merchandise, TV viewership numbers, etc. because O-lie-o is a bigger name....

[JeffHCross]

Where'd you get those numbers, if I may ask?

I #TrustTheScripthttp://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/12/08/college-football-playoff-conference-payouts/

[JBHuskers]

:D

http://wac.9ebf.edgecastcdn.net/809EBF/ec-origin.barstoolu.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/12/Screen-Shot-2014-12-13-at-11.01.41-AM.jpg

[AustinWolv]

^^^LOL

[morsdraconis]

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/12/08/college-football-playoff-conference-payouts/

Holy shit! $27.5 million to the ACC for Georgia Tech playing in the Orange Bowl and $27.5 million to the SEC for Mississippi State playing in the Orange Bowl?! How the fuck did they get that setup?! When the hell did the Orange Bowl become worth so much damn money!?

[JeffHCross]

Holy shit! $27.5 million to the ACC for Georgia Tech playing in the Orange Bowl and $27.5 million to the SEC for Mississippi State playing in the Orange Bowl?! How the fuck did they get that setup?! When the hell did the Orange Bowl become worth so much damn money!?
Yeah, that's one that I do not understand.

It has something to do with this, but this I don't understand either.
Due to its contract, the Orange Bowl delivers a larger payout this season as a non-semifinal bowl. When the Sugar Bowl and Rose Bowl aren’t hosting semifinals, the SEC, Big 12, Big Ten and Pac-12 teams appearing in them will receive a payout of $40 million.

[CLW]

Last game of the season. Going to watch the Film room version I think over the regular broadcast.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'm jumping between Film Room and Command Center.

#TheScriptIsDead

[souljahbill]

This game is awesome!

[SmoothPancakes]

Oregon is going to have to learn to tackle. They keep diving at legs and Elliott is ripping them a new asshole. Ohio State plays smash mouth Big Ten football. Ankle tackles are not going to stop them.

#TheScriptIsDead

[AustinWolv]

Oregon is busy shooting themselves in the foot.

[psuexv]

Oregon is going to have to learn to tackle. They keep diving at legs and Elliott is ripping them a new asshole. Ohio State plays smash mouth Big Ten football. Ankle tackles are not going to stop them.

#TheScriptIsDead

They also need to learn to catch a 3rd down pass

[SmoothPancakes]

Ohio State is fucking themselves right now. It should be Ohio State driving to make it 28-7 right now. Two fumbles have fucked Ohio State and kept Oregon in the game.

#TheScriptIsDead

[AustinWolv]

One fumble was force, one was not. Oregon's silly drops were worse. Oregon D is getting worked.

[CLW]

One fumble was force, one was not. Oregon's silly drops were worse. Oregon D is getting worked.

Yep looks like a blow out in the making right now. I thought this was finally going to be the year Oregon broke through after Alabama lost but its not looking good right now.

[souljahbill]

TCU has to be rooting for Oregon, right?

[skipwondah33]

Cardale earned his cash just now

[CLW]

4 turnovers has kept Oregon in the game and looks like they are headed for another score to take the lead

[skipwondah33]

Nearly same spot of the field Winston was

[CLW]

this film room broadcast is EXCELLENT i've learned more about football in this broadcast than the past 25+ years watching football on team

[AustinWolv]

Someone forgot to teach the Oregon defenders on how to wrap up. They beat blocks and hit, but 1st tackler rarely brings down the ballcarrier.

[CLW]

Someone forgot to teach the Oregon defenders on how to wrap up. They beat blocks and hit, but 1st tackler rarely brings down the ballcarrier.

They cannot stop that counter play. Ohio state has ran it like 10-15 times in the game and they are tipping the play each time on the film room cast the coaches are screaming counter 3 seconds before they run it and Oregon cannot stop it.

[steelerfan]

the coaches are screaming counter 3 seconds before they run it and Oregon cannot stop it.

I'm sure ram is too. It's easy to know what is coming when you have The Script.

#TheScriptIsDead

[steelerfan]

Kind of classless/bush league for OSU to go for it on 4th & inches at the 4 with about 1:30 to play.

Kick a 21-yard FG and it's a 3-score game. Instead, they were determined to run it up.

#TheScriptIsDead

[SmoothPancakes]

Kind of classless/bush league for OSU to go for it on 4th & inches at the 4 with about 1:30 to play.

Kick a 21-yard FG and it's a 3-score game. Instead, they were determined to run it up.

#TheScriptIsDead

They did it to let Elliott break the national title game record for most rushing touchdowns. That gave him 4, breaking Vince Young's record from 2006. That's why they kept handing off to Elliott over and over there at the end.

#TheScriptIsDead

[skipwondah33]

This game could have been a lot uglier

Good to see

[SmoothPancakes]

This game could have been a lot uglier

Good to see
I've been saying that all night. If Ohio State didn't constantly fuck up with the fumbles, they end up hitting 50 tonight.

#TheScriptIsDead

[steelerfan]

They did it to let Elliott break the national title game record for most rushing touchdowns. That gave him 4, breaking Vince Young's record from 2006. That's why they kept handing off to Elliott over and over there at the end.

#TheScriptIsDead
Meh. Ok. Not good enough for my tastes, I guess.

#TheScriptIsDead

[SmoothPancakes]

Meh. Ok. Not good enough for my tastes, I guess.

#TheScriptIsDead
Oh, trust me, I'm not saying it was a good reason for doing it, but that was the reason as they kept shoving the ball to Elliott every play those last couple plays leading up to the touchdown. He already had the rushing yards record and was tied for the rushing TD record, so they gave him the outright record as well. Not necessarily a good reason, but that's why they did end up calling that.

#TheScriptIsDead

[steelerfan]

Oh, trust me, I'm not saying it was a good reason for doing it, but that was the reason as they kept shoving the ball to Elliott every play those last couple plays leading up to the touchdown. He already had the rushing yards record and was tied for the rushing TD record, so they gave him the outright record as well. Not necessarily a good reason, but that's why they did end up calling that.

#TheScriptIsDead
Understood. I knew you weren't saying you were in favor of it. You would think, however, that the script writers would have him get the record without making the Buckeyes look like a bunch of D-bags in the process. :dunno:

#TheScriptIsDead

[JeffHCross]

this film room broadcast is EXCELLENT i've learned more about football in this broadcast than the past 25+ years watching football on teamHoping very badly that they will have that broadcast up on the WatchESPN app. Didn't want to watch it during the live game. I know that I would love it.

[JeffHCross]

.

[JeffHCross]

On the complete other end, it feels very nice to win. Not quite like 2003, but those were different circumstances and a very different game.

#GoBucks

[SmoothPancakes]

On the complete other end, it feels very nice to win. Not quite like 2003, but those were different circumstances and a very different game.

#GoBucks

Yeah, 2003 was completely different. My god that night was nuts. Tonight was a great game and is a very special win for the Buckeyes, but I don't think anything will ever match the circumstances and feeling that 2003 game brought.

[Rudy]

The third string qb comes in and just wins the big ten, a playoff game over Bama and a national title. Mack Brown joked he should petition to leave early for the draft if it happened since it doesn't get any better.

[cdj]

Hoping very badly that they will have that broadcast up on the WatchESPN app. Didn't want to watch it during the live game. I know that I would love it.

I believe it is being replayed at 4 PM ET today on ESPNU.

[cdj]

The third string qb comes in and just wins the big ten, a playoff game over Bama and a national title. Mack Brown joked he should petition to leave early for the draft if it happened since it doesn't get any better.

Isn't Jones a redshirt soph? That would make him three years out of HS and draft eligible, right?

I think he will probably consider it. After all, Jones isn't a huge fan of classes:

http://i.imgur.com/dFY0U.png

[AustinWolv]

He's 22 years old, he can leave.

He spent time at Fork Union.

[AustinWolv]

They cannot stop that counter play. Ohio state has ran it like 10-15 times in the game and they are tipping the play each time on the film room cast the coaches are screaming counter 3 seconds before they run it and Oregon cannot stop it.

Oregon's lack of size on the DL killed them. The play in the trenches was the difference. Oregon did ok for the 1st quarter, but their DL isn't powerful or deep enough to maintain that play all game. Thus, Ohio just pounded them.

That DL difference may have played out different had Oregon not kept dropping 3rd down conversions.....they go up by 14 and Ohio has to play a little differently. However, OSU was bottling up the Oregon run game consistently enough that Oregon was having to work.

[CLW]

Ohio State is only going to have 1 of those 3 QBs next season and my guess it will be only Barrett

[steelerfan]

Ohio State is only going to have 1 of those 3 QBs next season and my guess it will be only Barrett
Fwiw....

ESPN - NCAAF: Ohio State QB J.T. Barrett says he's not leaving and believes Braxton Miller, Cardale Jones will return - SI.com


#TheScriptIsDead

[AustinWolv]

Like he'd say anything different about the other two.

Urban could platoon a couple of them like was done at UF with Leak, but.........that still leaves one out.
I'd think Jones would take the money and run.....3rd round pick money and learning from a decent team behind a current starter would do him wonders.
He's a better QB to the NFL than Miller, so Miller either needs to improve his game or move to WR (like Devin Gardner should have done). I loved when Miller would stay in the pocket to pass, as he frankly wasn't that good, and it was a better situation for Michigan compared to him running.

[steelerfan]

Like he'd say anything different about the other two.

I did preface that with "Fwiw" but, to be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if something stupid was said. Hell, look at the tweet cdj posted above if you don't believe some of these morons will say just about anything. ;)

#TheScriptIsDead

[AustinWolv]

I saw it and know you took it with a grain of salt. Like you said, he is an Ohio State guy, so.......because spelling is hard:
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/107459/lets-go-o-h-i-as-buckeyes-enter-the-field-final-flag-does-not

[JeffHCross]

I saw it and know you took it with a grain of salt. Like you said, he is an Ohio State guy, so.......because spelling is hard:
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/107459/lets-go-o-h-i-as-buckeyes-enter-the-field-final-flag-does-not:eyeroll:

Though I guess they were the "lesser men" Harbaugh referred to in his presser, since they went down when tripping and he didn't.

If I was advising Jones, I'd tell him to go to the NFL. If he only backs up, he'll still learn more than as Ohio State's third string.

Though FWIW one of the Vegas sites has Jones as the favorite to be starting quarterback against Virginia Tech.

[AustinWolv]

She tripped with her marker: http://nypost.com/2015/01/12/jimmy-kimmel-mocks-ohio-state-fans-misspelled-shotgun-sign/

That halftime thing with Kimmel was terrible. It wasn't funny or entertaining. It was really lame.

[JeffHCross]

She tripped with her marker: http://nypost.com/2015/01/12/jimmy-kimmel-mocks-ohio-state-fans-misspelled-shotgun-sign/

That halftime thing with Kimmel was terrible. It wasn't funny or entertaining. It was really lame.The entire countdown of signs during the Rose & Sugar Bowls was incredibly lame. So glad I watched the Marching Bands perform instead.

The only good sign I've seen all season was one during the Rose Bowl pregame. I don't even remember it now though.

[JBHuskers]

Yep, he's going pro, or trolling us...

555775676750778368

[souljahbill]

It's a weak QB draft. He should go now. I don't even know any other QBs besides Winston, Mariotta, and Hundley.

[Rudy]

The problem is he's so not ready for the NFL that if you don't show good things in the first couple years the NFL just spits you out. I think he would be better off transferring to a small school, get more experience and then be a high pick the following year. If he goes pro now he would be a 4th rounder. Maybe someone gambles earlier but he can make a lot more guaranteed money if he can play well for another year in college.

[SmoothPancakes]

Yep. Highest round I've heard he might be drafted is 3rd round, maybe very late 2nd of he is very lucky. He'd be pissing away millions of guaranteed money if he stayed and played well enough to go first round in the future. He doesn't want to be the backup again at Ohio State, so he'll go be a career backup in the NFL (no one is going to draft him and make him a starter, he'll be a backup behind someone for years).

And while he is very talented and while he played a hell of a three games, he's not going to be ready for the NFL. I don't see this ending well.

#TheScriptIsDead

[SmoothPancakes]

Anyone else getting vibes that this kid is going to end up crashing and burning as a football player? He spends all season as a backup, gets his moment to shine in the final three games of the season, says after the national title game that he is coming back to Ohio State next year, then two days later, now he's doing a special press conference live on TV to announce his decision on whether to go pro or stay.

In the process, he's taking on a vibe of a mix of LeBron James (the Decision) and Johnny Douchebag (so self important he needs a live televised press conference instead just announcing it like Mariota and Winston and countless others have). His head has exploded in these last couple days and I have a feeling it's going to be his downfall in sports.

[SmoothPancakes]

I'll be damned, Cardale Jones is returning to Ohio State next year. I still don't know why the hell he needed a press conference for it. He just said "I don't know why you guys made it such a big deal", they didn't, he did by needing to announce it at a damn press conference. Just have the university put out a press release announcing that you are returning to school an be done with it. Why go back to your old high school (or wherever this is that he's at) and do a whole giant nationally televised press conference just to announce you are returning to school. :fp:

[souljahbill]

What's the timetable for the return of Miller and Barrett?

[JeffHCross]

Yep, he's going pro, or trolling us...

555775676750778368Twas an epic troll.

What's the timetable for the return of Miller and Barrett?Neither is expected to be ready for spring practices.
I'll be damned, Cardale Jones is returning to Ohio State next year. I still don't know why the hell he needed a press conference for it. He just said "I don't know why you guys made it such a big deal", they didn't, he did by needing to announce it at a damn press conference. Just have the university put out a press release announcing that you are returning to school an be done with it. Why go back to your old high school (or wherever this is that he's at) and do a whole giant nationally televised press conference just to announce you are returning to school. :fp:The press conference wasn't his idea, natch.

He wouldn't be the first Clevelandite to get horrible advice about airing a decision on television.

[SmoothPancakes]

The press conference wasn't his idea, natch.

He wouldn't be the first Clevelandite to get horrible advice about airing a decision on television.

Yeah, I just learned that last night while listening to Fox Sports Radio at work. At the time though, without knowing that, those are very reasonable views on him holding a nationally televised press conference just to announce if he was staying in school or going pro. I can guarantee I wasn't the only one thinking that while watching that press conference.

Now, as for the horrible advice, you got that right! :D And no, he is not the first. As for whoever suggested such a press conference to Jones, that person should be repeatedly slapped. And Jones needs to find someone else to get advice from. He still not 100% innocent in my opinion though. Yes, the press conference may have been the idea of someone else, but he still could have turned it down, just announce his decision through a press release by the university. He may not have had the idea to do the press conference, but he still agreed to it and showed up, so he was complicit. :P

[souljahbill]

I don't have a problem with press conferences. We build people up to be mega-stars always shoving nice and cameras in people's faces so I have no issue with it. No one was hurt so it's not a big deal.

[JeffHCross]

Kind of classless/bush league for OSU to go for it on 4th & inches at the 4 with about 1:30 to play.

Kick a 21-yard FG and it's a 3-score game. Instead, they were determined to run it up.

#TheScriptIsDeadFWIW, I watched the Film Room coverage tonight, and two of the four coaches said they would go for it rather than kick. In part because if you don't get it then you've forced Oregon to go the length of the field.

Also, they didn't actually go for it. They drew Oregon offside. For all we know, they were going to take a penalty. :dunno:

More unnecessary was the final touchdown with :28 to go. Just take a knee and end it.

[JeffHCross]

He may not have had the idea to do the press conference, but he still agreed to it and showed up, so he was complicit. :PIf King James wasn't smart enough to turn down a televised decision, then a 22 year old kid isn't going to be. Especially if, and this is purely speculation, the person providing the pressure is his former coach and mentor Ted Ginn Sr.

But yes, you weren't the only one to think it, not by a long shot. SBNation had a hilarious take (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/1/16/7557545/cardale-jones-nfl-draft-announcement-screaming-wailing) on it.

[JeffHCross]

Cardale Jones is the man.

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[steelerfan]

Cardale Jones is the man.

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#TheScriptIsDead

[psuexv]

Love that he has #stayhumble in his profile dumbass875

[souljahbill]

Cardale Jones is the man.

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Guess it's fortunate that he didn't go pro. He clearly lacks "bigger picture" thinking. He could've won 38-35 if he just HAD to win. No need to put up 98 on a sick kid.

[cdj]

A former Illinois player is mid-rant on Twitter about alleged issues with team doctor(s) and coach Tim Beckman. (https://twitter.com/IlliniSi/)

[JeffHCross]

Guess it's fortunate that he didn't go pro. He clearly lacks "bigger picture" thinking. He could've won 38-35 if he just HAD to win. No need to put up 98 on a sick kid.I didn't see this until now... there's a lot more to the story than meets the eye. He's not some heartless bastard that cheesed a sick kid.

The kid recently tweeted at Cardale asking for a rematch in NHL, of all things. Cardale responded that, being black, he doesn't play NCAA :D

[JeffHCross]

A former Illinois player is mid-rant on Twitter about alleged issues with team doctor(s) and coach Tim Beckman. (https://twitter.com/IlliniSi/)Crazy stuff.