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JBHuskers
07-24-2014, 03:02 PM
We're getting close enough. Let's start this thread out with this:
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I am interested to see if :Duke: can keep improving. I don't expect them to win the ACC this year but they should be in the running to win their division again.
bdoughty
07-24-2014, 05:11 PM
Book'Em Horns.
Two University of Texas football players were arrested and charged Thursday with felony sexual assault after a female student said she was raped in a campus dorm room last month. (http://abc13.com/sports/two-texas-wrs-face-felony-charge/216215/)
SmoothPancakes
07-24-2014, 06:16 PM
http://m.ajc.com/news/sports/college/suspect-in-uga-dorm-burglary-is-a-5-star-recruitin/ngmBs/
How about this dumbass? Didn't even wait to get to college before fucking up and getting a warrant for burglary. Don't think Georgia's gonna have any interest in signing him anymore.
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bdoughty
07-26-2014, 09:03 AM
Four more players kicked off the Longhorns, for a total of six so far. I will say this for Charlie Strong, he is not putting up with any crap.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11263069/texas-longhorns-dismiss-four-more-players-team
souljahbill
07-26-2014, 09:10 AM
Four more players kicked off the Longhorns, for a total of six so far. I will say this for Charlie Strong, he is not putting up with any crap.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11263069/texas-longhorns-dismiss-four-more-players-team
Good for him. Weed out the knuckleheads so the program can grow.
SmoothPancakes
07-26-2014, 02:15 PM
A LOT of programs need to do the same.
coogrfan
07-28-2014, 12:04 PM
We're getting close enough. Let's start this thread out with this:
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Wait...TAMU at #4? The school whose non-conf slate consists of Lamar, Rice, SMU and ULM? That TAMU?
jaymo76
07-28-2014, 04:46 PM
Good for him. Weed out the knuckleheads so the program can grow.
A LOT of programs need to do the same.
Four more players kicked off the Longhorns, for a total of six so far. I will say this for Charlie Strong, he is not putting up with any crap.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11263069/texas-longhorns-dismiss-four-more-players-team
YES! It is time for these big programmes to set standards of conduct and actually live up to them.
bdoughty
07-28-2014, 05:25 PM
Wait...TAMU at #4? The school whose non-conf slate consists of Lamar, Rice, SMU and ULM? That TAMU?
But they are doing so without Johnny Football. The only thing I can see is they play Auburn and Bama on the road. Still not enough to make it a top 5 or even a top 10 toughest schedule.
I do feel college football shoots itself in the foot with the creampuff schedules. Every top team has 4 wins their backups could get for them. Its not good for TV and the general fan.
bdoughty
07-29-2014, 12:41 AM
I do feel college football shoots itself in the foot with the creampuff schedules. Every top team has 4 wins their backups could get for them. Its not good for TV and the general fan.
It does not make for good TV but rarely are the creampuff games shown as primetime games. There are always a couple good matchups each week before conference hits. One really tough non-conference game is all you need. You have a brutal schedule and lose two games early, it's the road to a pre January bowl for a good team. OU is pretty smart about this. Just like this year. Two games you should win pretty easily (La Tech & Tulsa) but give you enough of a challenge that the games will show you how well you are doing at each position. Then you throw in a Tennessee, who unfortunately is down right now but you can't really know that when you are scheduling games years in advance. I also like how the Big 12 is only having three non-conference games and you play everyone in the conference. I think three non-conference games are more than enough.
What I really dislike is playing four non-conference opponents and having the fourth played at the end of the year, so it is like an extra bye week. Looking at you SEC. Notice both Bama and Auburn have cupcakes scheduled before their matchup.
Marlowe
08-06-2014, 10:45 AM
Good for him. Weed out the knuckleheads so the program can grow.
I really like what Strong is doing. Too much of a country club vibe around here under Mack. He's basically taken the entitlement attitude out of the team and is making them earn everything. We'll see how it translates onto the field.
bdoughty
08-18-2014, 08:35 PM
OU suspends Joe Mixon for a year. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11372291/joe-mixon-oklahoma-sooners-suspended-season)
JeffHCross
08-18-2014, 09:47 PM
Well, we're fucked.
Sources: Braxton Miller re-injures shoulder in practice Monday evening. Left practice facility in a sling. (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ElevenWarriors/~3/EqZrtLg0rzs/report-braxton-miller-re-injures-shoulder-in-practice)
souljahbill
08-19-2014, 05:34 AM
Well, we're fucked.
Sources: Braxton Miller re-injures shoulder in practice Monday evening. Left practice facility in a sling. (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ElevenWarriors/~3/EqZrtLg0rzs/report-braxton-miller-re-injures-shoulder-in-practice)
Last years back-up graduated? He kept the ship afloat pretty well.
psuexv
08-19-2014, 08:04 AM
Well, we're fucked.
Sources: Braxton Miller re-injures shoulder in practice Monday evening. Left practice facility in a sling. (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ElevenWarriors/~3/EqZrtLg0rzs/report-braxton-miller-re-injures-shoulder-in-practice)
They'll be fine. It's not like you need to throw the ball to run Urban's offense, throw any dude back there that can run and hit a 10 yard pass.
JeffHCross
08-19-2014, 10:36 AM
Last years back-up graduated? He kept the ship afloat pretty well.Yeah, the sweet jazz of Kenny G is playing in the Arena league now.
They'll be fine. It's not like you need to throw the ball to run Urban's offense, throw any dude back there that can run and hit a 10 yard pass.Who says we have anyone that can hit a 10 yard pass?
In all seriousness, the one upside is that since he was hurt all spring, our backups have been getting first team reps since the bowl loss. So we've been preparing ... just not quite as soon as we wanted it to come.
gschwendt
08-19-2014, 12:22 PM
It's official
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souljahbill
08-19-2014, 12:32 PM
It's official
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Good luck and best wishes to him going forward. Tough break for him and OSU.
Great college QB that I don't see as a QB in the pros. Can he get a medical redshirt and come back next year? What are his plans?
JeffHCross
08-20-2014, 07:52 AM
He doesn't need a medical redshirt. He still has a "normal" redshirt to burn.
jaymo76
08-20-2014, 02:54 PM
Great college QB that I don't see as a QB in the pros. Can he get a medical redshirt and come back next year? What are his plans?
maybe CFL though? His mobility would be an asset. However, Troy Smith has really struggled so who knows???
No CFL for Braxton Miller. Being mobile helps but you have to make good decisions and be accurate. That's why guys like Andre Ware and Mike McMahon sucked up here.
JBHuskers
08-22-2014, 10:59 AM
I think he just needs a good college degree.
SCClassof93
08-25-2014, 08:51 AM
I think he just needs a good college degree.
What a concept :up:
steelerfan
08-28-2014, 02:30 PM
ESPN - USC senior RB Anthony Brown called coach Steve Sarkisian a racist and quit the team Thursday.
What the hell is going on over there?
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JBHuskers
08-28-2014, 04:34 PM
It's a banner week for USC for week one :D
saw quite a bit of football this weekend and the supposed heavy weights were tested mightily by teams that supposedly shouldn't
JeffHCross
08-31-2014, 09:39 PM
Preseason polls do a bad job of predicting teams relative strength? Nooooo
JBHuskers
09-30-2014, 09:45 AM
Love this! :D :D :D
http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ohio-state-coach-rock-bottom-elite-daily.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eSbZpGcuC8
bdoughty
10-01-2014, 11:05 AM
That kid is a real winner. Pleads not guilty and demands jury trial.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2014/09/41140/idiot-on-the-field-enters-no-guilty-plea-requests-jury-trial
Ahh but thank you Karma. He was on full scholarship. Not anymore.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2014/10/anthony_schlegel_tackle_not_on.html
"The 21-year old student, Anthony Wunder, is being removed from the Evans Scholars Program for former golf caddies"
the world needs ditch diggers too
:D Not mine, stole it from the comments on another site.
JeffHCross
10-01-2014, 11:19 AM
Love this! :D :D :D
http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/ohio-state-coach-rock-bottom-elite-daily.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eSbZpGcuC8The funny part is I don't remember Anthony Schlegel getting any hits like that when he was a player. But he's definitely bulked up since his playing days.
steelerfan
10-03-2014, 01:17 AM
Rich Rodriguez continues to make Michigan (and their head coach, Fred Flintstone) look like the stupid fucking losers they have become again.
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Hard to argue that Hoke hasn't been a massive failure. What really annoyed was when he earlier called out Michigan fans for not being true fans if they didn't support the team 24/7. That's foolish job saving nonsense. Time to go. He's done nothing to bring in and develop good talent.
JBHuskers
10-03-2014, 01:32 PM
This is pretty cool....
http://i.imgur.com/VaQxM1n.png
JeffHCross
10-04-2014, 09:05 AM
Rich Rodriguez continues to make Michigan (and their head coach, Fred Flintstone) look like the stupid fucking losers they have become again. I disagree. Even with the irrefutable proof that he is a good coach, that doesn't mean Michigan was, or ever would have been, a good fit.
Not to say Michigan isn't an inept joke right now, but that doesn't mean that he would have been successful had he stayed.
Similarly, Florida fans are all being tortured by the success that their QB transfers are having elsewhere, but there's no way to guarantee (or, frankly, imagine) that they would have been successful in Muschamp's tire fire offense.
JeffHCross
10-04-2014, 09:08 AM
This is pretty cool....
http://i.imgur.com/VaQxM1n.png
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/08/06/fan-maps/68d3dbfce2f79fec065abf232728fbc27cd68f2e/images/ncaa-fb-main-map.png
Interactive map: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/03/upshot/ncaa-football-map.html
SmoothPancakes
10-28-2014, 06:31 PM
Here we go, first ever playoff rankings.
SmoothPancakes
10-28-2014, 06:37 PM
Your first ever college football playoff rankings.
#1 Mississippi State (7-0)
#2 Florida State (7-0)
#3 Auburn (6-1)
#4 Ole Miss (7-1)
#5 Oregon (7-1)
#6 Alabama (7-1)
#7 TCU (6-1)
#8 Michigan State (7-1)
#9 Kansas State (6-1)
#10 Notre Dame (6-1)
#11 Georgia (6-1)
#12 Arizona (6-1)
#13 Baylor (6-1)
#14 Arizona State (6-1)
#15 Nebraska (7-1)
#16 Ohio State (6-1)
#17 Utah (6-1)
#18 Oklahoma (5-2)
#19 LSU (7-2)
#20 West Virginia (6-2)
#21 Clemson (6-2)
#22 UCLA (6-2)
#23 East Carolina (6-1)
#24 Duke (6-1)
#25 Louisville (6-2)
JBHuskers
10-29-2014, 11:29 AM
Before anyone gets butthurt about the SEC, most of them still have to play each other.
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SCClassof93
10-29-2014, 12:53 PM
Before anyone gets butthurt about the SEC, most of them still have to play each other.
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And most of them would whip any teams outside the SEC :P
JeffHCross
10-30-2014, 10:46 AM
And most of them would whip any teams outside the SEC :PThere is little to no proof that is true. And, historically speaking (particularly recent history), there's been more proof that "Team A is absolutely better than Team B" seems to be false more often than not.
SCClassof93
10-30-2014, 12:58 PM
There is little to no proof that is true. And, historically speaking (particularly recent history), there's been more proof that "Team A is absolutely better than Team B" seems to be false more often than not.
Tell us about Ohio state's history Versus the sec in bowl games. Not going to argue with you on it. Probably more common sense in thinking the NFL is fixed than there is a college football conference better than the sec.
JeffHCross
10-31-2014, 10:00 AM
Tell us about Ohio state's history Versus the sec in bowl games. Not going to argue with you on it. Probably more common sense in thinking the NFL is fixed than there is a college football conference better than the sec.Did I say a thing about Ohio State? Or that the SEC wasn't the best conference? No. But anytime a team, or group of teams, is considered so elite that it would "clearly" win a given game ... well, it seems like those teams often get knocked down a peg or two. And yes, 2006 Ohio State/Michigan is part of that discussions because we were "clearly" the best team in the nation, maybe even #1 and #2. Look how that turned out.
But if you think I'm twisting this into some kind of argument for non-SEC superiority, you've got it twisted.
SmoothPancakes
11-04-2014, 06:37 PM
The newest college football playoff rankings.
#1 Mississippi State (8-0)
#2 Florida State (8-0)
#3 Auburn (7-1)
#4 Oregon (8-1)
#5 Alabama (7-1)
#6 TCU (7-1)
#7 Kansas State (7-1)
#8 Michigan State (7-1)
#9 Arizona State (7-1)
#10 Notre Dame (7-1)
#11 Ole Miss (7-2)
#12 Baylor (7-1)
#13 Nebraska (8-1)
#14 Ohio State (7-1)
#15 Oklahoma (6-2)
#16 LSU (7-2)
#17 Utah (6-2)
#18 UCLA (7-2)
#19 Arizona (6-2)
#20 Georgia (6-2)
#21 Clemson (6-2)
#22 Duke (7-1)
#23 West Virginia (6-3)
#24 Georgia Tech (7-2)
#25 Wisconsin (6-2)
JBHuskers
11-04-2014, 06:48 PM
Give Marshall some love!
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souljahbill
11-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Give Marshall some love!
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Marshall is gonna get a lot of love this weekend as they're going to fuck the shit out of Southern Miss. :fp:
SmoothPancakes
11-04-2014, 07:03 PM
Marshall is gonna get a lot of love this weekend as they're going to fuck the shit out of Southern Miss. :fp:
Make sure to buy LOTS of lube and remember, the phrase is "thank you sir, may I have another"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ
SmoothPancakes
11-06-2014, 06:06 PM
After having a player decommit today via Twitter, Michigan now has just 8 recruits committed for the 2015 season.
They are dropping like flies. Hoke needs to be fired quickly. MICHIGAN has been weak for too long.
SmoothPancakes
11-11-2014, 06:56 PM
The newest college football playoff rankings.
#1 Mississippi State (9-0) LW: 1
#2 Oregon (9-1) LW: 4
#3 Florida State (9-0) LW: 2
#4 TCU (8-1) LW: 6
#5 Alabama (8-1) LW: 5
#6 Arizona State (8-1) LW: 9
#7 Baylor (8-1) LW: 12
#8 Ohio State (8-1) LW: 14
#9 Auburn (7-2) LW: 3
#10 Ole Miss (8-2) LW: 11
#11 UCLA (8-2) LW: 18
#12 Michigan State (7-2) LW: 8
#13 Kansas State (7-2) LW: 7
#14 Arizona (7-2) LW: 19
#15 Georgia (7-2) LW: 20
#16 Nebraska (8-1) LW: 13
#17 LSU (7-3) LW: 16
#18 Notre Dame (7-2) LW: 10
#19 Clemson (7-2) LW: 21
#20 Wisconsin (7-2) LW: 25
#21 Duke (8-1) LW: 22
#22 Georgia Tech (8-2) LW: 24
#23 Utah (6-3) LW: 17
#24 Texas A&M (7-3) LW: NR
#25 Minnesota (7-2) LW: NR
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bdoughty
11-11-2014, 07:25 PM
Good to see TCU jump Bama. Also, feel free to thank Baylor for kicking the crap out of my Sooners as that had to play a part in it.
skipwondah33
11-12-2014, 07:44 AM
How does FSU keep moving down?
Sure they..almost lose games and they aren't pretty but isn't winning the ultimate goal regardless? They haven't lost since the 2012-2013 season.
If we are counting ugly, almost losses then TCU doesn't deserve to jump up IMO.
These teams have 1 loss already except Mississippi State. So FSU could conceivably go undefeated and still be the 3rd or 4th...hell maybe not even make it in? lol
JeffHCross
11-12-2014, 11:33 AM
How does FSU keep moving down?
Sure they..almost lose games and they aren't pretty but isn't winning the ultimate goal regardless? They haven't lost since the 2012-2013 season.The committee is clearly putting a lot of weight into the "eyeball test", and Florida State's performances haven't exactly inspired "yes, they're a dominant undefeated team" type analysis. Their games have been more like "aren't they ever going to lose?"
In a lot of ways their season feels like Ohio State's 2002 season, where people thought that we weren't even the best team in our conference.
skipwondah33
11-12-2014, 11:49 AM
Man that's when football gets way too technical
I understand you can't put weight completely into being undefeated as a team from the SWAC could be undefeated but what more can they do other than win? Almost win and blowout are still the same in the win-loss column. And almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes....and apparently college football committee decisions.
Score 87 points against an inferior team? or simply just win the games against people in front of them?
That's why I like the NFL...fixed and all lol
souljahbill
11-12-2014, 04:34 PM
Man that's when football gets way too technical
I understand you can't put weight completely into being undefeated as a team from the SWAC could be undefeated but what more can they do other than win? Almost win and blowout are still the same in the win-loss column. And almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes....and apparently college football committee decisions.
Score 87 points against an inferior team? or simply just win the games against people in front of them?
That's why I like the NFL...fixed and all lol
It's easier to get 12 teams out of 32 for an NFL playoff than get 4 teams out of 127 (give or take) with obvious differences in conference strength.
skipwondah33
11-12-2014, 07:24 PM
Yeah but majority of those teams realistically don't have a chance to get into the 4 anyway so can't say that many
Let's say half of that number which still is a lot and still probably not completely accurate if you say Pac 10, Big 12, Big 10, ACC, SEC and maybe American conference I guess as the major benefactors being included...oh and Notre Dame. Don't know if that's 62-64 teams since I don't want to count or follow college football that heavily.
Just crazy when you count people's opinions for placement and not record solely when getting a spot or not getting one.
souljahbill
11-13-2014, 05:40 AM
The playoffs should be 16.
Every conference champ gets in automatically to give little guys a chance and wild cards to fill out the rest. You'll still need a committee, the regular season still matters (because winning conference is automatic), and you'll still need a good resume when compared to teams with similar records.
JeffHCross
11-13-2014, 09:04 AM
Just crazy when you count people's opinions for placement and not record solely when getting a spot or not getting one.That's not crazy, that's how it should be. That's the entire point of having a committee that assesses every team, not just mindless computers that are only allowed to factor in wins and losses.
Florida State is undefeated, but they haven't played at a level that makes them obviously one of the top 2 teams in the country. Guess what! They're still in, right now. And I'm pretty confident that if they continue to go undefeated, they'll continue to be in.
Unlike, say, Marshall, who can go undefeated but doesn't have a likely chance, even if they blew out Southern Miss by practically the same score Alabama did. :D
skipwondah33
11-13-2014, 10:11 AM
That's not crazy, that's how it should be. That's the entire point of having a committee that assesses every team, not just mindless computers that are only allowed to factor in wins and losses.
Florida State is undefeated, but they haven't played at a level that makes them obviously one of the top 2 teams in the country. Guess what! They're still in, right now. And I'm pretty confident that if they continue to go undefeated, they'll continue to be in.
Unlike, say, Marshall, who can go undefeated but doesn't have a likely chance, even if they blew out Southern Miss by practically the same score Alabama did. :DThey are still winning though and have done for quite a long time. Ugly, amost...still wins.
Not even sure if the argument "all they need to do is keep winning and they will be fine" even matters because you know Alabama will keep climbing if they win and it's obvious that a 1 loss team can pass an undefeated team. Should Alabama win against Mississippi State I don't see them dropping any lower than 4. And Alabama would likely be included in the 4 then...atleast with the line of thinking the committee is using.
Just needs to be more than 4 teams I think. Top seeds go to teams who win their major conference. Others are left for debate.
The playoffs should be 16.
Every conference champ gets in automatically to give little guys a chance and wild cards to fill out the rest. You'll still need a committee, the regular season still matters (because winning conference is automatic), and you'll still need a good resume when compared to teams with similar records.
I don't think the little guys deserve an automatic bid. The winner of the MAC would be a bottom feeder at a big boy conference. Four teams is plenty imo.
souljahbill
11-13-2014, 11:05 AM
I don't think the little guys deserve an automatic bid. The winner of the MAC would be a bottom feeder at a big boy conference. Four teams is plenty imo.
I bet that's what Oklahoma was thinking vs. Boise St.
By that logic, why do we even have playoffs in other sports? We can just put the 2 best records in the championship right after the season ends. Why do we need 64 teams (or 68 or whatever it is) in the NCAA tournament? What's the point of 1/2 the team's even playing football if only the Power 5 matter?
JeffHCross
11-13-2014, 11:08 AM
Just needs to be more than 4 teams I think.1) There's still plenty of time (and upsets) to come. The season tends to work itself out, at least in terms of eliminating undefeated teams :D
2) A year ago at this time FSU would be out of the BCS NCG. It's progress that we now have 4 teams to debate.
Everyone, both pro-playoff expansion and against, needs to keep in mind that the FCS championship began with four teams in 1978. It now has 24. March Madness started in 1939 with 8 and now has 68. Expansion is inevitable.
I bet that's what Oklahoma was thinking vs. Boise St.
By that logic, why do we even have playoffs in other sports? We can just put the 2 best records in the championship right after the season ends. Why do we need 64 teams (or 68 or whatever it is) in the NCAA tournament? What's the point of 1/2 the team's even playing football if only the Power 5 matter?
That's exactly my point. The NCAA basketball tournament is largely a farce for TV money. We don't need 68 teams. Playoffs are far more about money that what is right in virtually every sport. Large playoffs completely cheapen the regular season, particularly in sports where teams can get in with a record of .500 or less. I'm not interested in giving a 9-7 NFL team a shot at the title even if it means the Dolphins sit at home. It's unimpressive and ugly when 8 seeds in the NHL make strong runs at the Cup. I hate it. A true champion dominates the regular season imo.
I was on record saying that I liked the BCS. It was hard to pick the best two sometimes largely because schedule strength is so different. I do like 4 but want no more than that.
skipwondah33
11-13-2014, 12:35 PM
I like the NBA, Baseball and NHL models of having to beat a team more than once to advance. Though unrealistic for Football.
Even if teams get in with weak records it works itself out. Sure the Giants weren't as sexy as the Patriots the year they ruined the perfect season...but they were by all accounts the better team and did what no one did all that season..which was harass and hit Brady all game.
Just think selection committees leave room for human error. I like simple wins and losses method.
If that happened in the NFL some of the past champions wouldn't have even been in the playoffs to win the SB because they wouldn't have been worthy by a committee (Giants, Ravens to name a few).
One thing I haven't heard much this year is debating over who is #1 in college football. There is some chatter but normally at this time of the year that discussion is very heated and passionate. It was a HUGE debate. Same went for BCS busters. People were on the edge of their seats watching a lot of November games knowing how huge they were. It doesn't have the same feel this year. Bama loses and "Oh well. They won't need help, just win the SEC title game and you are back in no problem." I loved the pressure the BCS put on teams to go undefeated.
skipwondah33
11-13-2014, 02:47 PM
One thing I haven't heard much this year is debating over who is #1 in college football. There is some chatter but normally at this time of the year that discussion is very heated and passionate. It was a HUGE debate. Same went for BCS busters. People were on the edge of their seats watching a lot of November games knowing how huge they were. It doesn't have the same feel this year. Bama loses and "Oh well. They won't need help, just win the SEC title game and you are back in no problem." I loved the pressure the BCS put on teams to go undefeated.Yep
I've heard more talk about teams losing early or in general and still being ok to make it in.
That was near insane during the BCS to say that so confidently. I know it still happened but I've heard it explained differently this year. Oregon losing wouldn't have had a shot over some of these other teams when it was the computers.
bdoughty
11-13-2014, 06:16 PM
I bet that's what Oklahoma was thinking vs. Boise St.
We were saying F this matchup. If we win we were supposed to, if we lose people would still be bringing it up in 2014. Now had it been a playoff game, that gives OU a bit more motivation.
I am hoping it jumps to 8 at some point, 4 is a good start. They should limit the season to 10 games max. Limit non-conference matchups, this way most games (conference games) matter. All conferences have a championship game (played on home field of the top team). Winner of the big 5 Championship games go to playoff. Only the Champion can go to the playoffs, no at-large for these conferences.
3 at large selected from the other conferences and independent. Home field advantage to the higher seeds, Championship game played at neutral site.
bdoughty
11-13-2014, 06:24 PM
Oregon losing wouldn't have had a shot over some of these other teams when it was the computers.
That would be incorrect. USA Today actually runs a weekly BCS Computer Composite based on what the ranks would be under the old system. Oregon is #4.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college/football/2014-11-10-fbc-computer-composite.pdf
Edit just look at some of those Sagarin Ratings.
3-loss OU at #6? That puts us ahead of undefeated Miss St and Florida St. What we really need is a playoff based on Sagarin Ratings. :D
bdoughty
11-13-2014, 06:33 PM
I loved the pressure the BCS put on teams to go undefeated.
There were 16 BCS Championships. Ten of those featured one loss teams. One featured a 2 loss team (LSU who beat Ohio St in the Championship). Three times there was not an undefeated team in the game.
There were 16 BCS Championships. Ten of those featured one loss teams. One featured a 2 loss team (LSU who beat Ohio St in the Championship). Three times there was not an undefeated team in the game.
But one loss meant you were at the mercy of others. Yes you could still get in but you no longer controlled your destiny. The only way to truly take care of business was to never lose. Was that an incredibly tough standard and at times unfair? Yes and I loved it.
bdoughty
11-14-2014, 08:54 AM
But one loss meant you were at the mercy of others. Yes you could still get in but you no longer controlled your destiny. The only way to truly take care of business was to never lose. Was that an incredibly tough standard and at times unfair? Yes and I loved it.
Same scenario applies to the current setup. There are two undefeated teams and if they stay that way will be in the playoffs. Continue and win two more and you are champion. In either system you no longer control your destiny with a loss. The problem is when you have no control of your destiny without a loss, due to not being a power conference.
Bear in mind that this is coming from an OU fan, "the team who snuck our way into two BCS games where we were not the best one loss team." USC claimed a dual national title the year we lost to LSU by the AP. Many smaller teams went undefeated over those years and took care of business, going undefeated and how was their destiny greeted by the BCS? I want to give the little guy a chance, not make some BCS Bowl sad they ended up with Marshall. The best example against the BCS is TCU. They had an undefeated season a few years back but while in the MWC. So they went to a Rose Bowl and won. What did they get for their reward? #3 in all polls. No shot at a title. Now? They got into the Big 12, thanks to a couple of defectors, so they actually have a shot at the 4 team playoff, with a loss to boot. That 2010 Dalton led team was as good if not better than this one. They had a far better defense than this years team.
That is why the 8 team playoff is the best. Underdogs! Playing on the road or neutral site, against a mighty Big 5 conference. There is a reason the first two days of March Madness is the most popular. Still dreaming to see that 16 seed take Duke down. :nod:
souljahbill
11-14-2014, 09:14 AM
Todd Graham wants 8 teams (champs of Power 5, 3 wild cards)
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/college/asu/2014/11/11/todd-graham-arizona-state-college-football-playoff-include-teams/18875285/
Of course, this would still leave undefeated Marshall out this year but who cares, right?
#16Teams #ALLConferenceChamps #PullingForThe LittleGuy
JeffHCross
11-14-2014, 11:03 AM
One thing I haven't heard much this year is debating over who is #1 in college football. There is some chatter but normally at this time of the year that discussion is very heated and passionate. It was a HUGE debate. Same went for BCS busters. People were on the edge of their seats watching a lot of November games knowing how huge they were. It doesn't have the same feel this year. Bama loses and "Oh well. They won't need help, just win the SEC title game and you are back in no problem." I loved the pressure the BCS put on teams to go undefeated.That's largely because of Alabama wins the SEC they'd have to beat the current #1 and Auburn. So there's a built in assumption that for them to even get to the title game, it's going to build their resume for them.
Also, the "pressure" for an SEC West team to go undefeated hasn't existed since the LSU/Bama title game rematch. It's everyone else that has pressure to go undefeated, which is still largely true. Less so this year because this year is like 2007, with mass destruction across the entire landscape.
JeffHCross
11-14-2014, 11:07 AM
3-loss OU at #6? That puts us ahead of undefeated Miss St and Florida St. What we really need is a playoff based on Sagarin Ratings. :DI hate the Sagarin ratings. They're heavily influenced by strength of schedule, which leads to the top conferences having the top schedules and being too teams based on their performance against those top schedules. It's self perpetuating at best.
I remember one year when one conference, I think it was the Pac 10 in USC's heyday, swept the toughest schedules. That just doesn't pass the sniff test.
skipwondah33
11-15-2014, 08:58 PM
That would be incorrect. USA Today actually runs a weekly BCS Computer Composite based on what the ranks would be under the old system. Oregon is #4.
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/college/football/2014-11-10-fbc-computer-composite.pdf
Edit just look at some of those Sagarin Ratings.
3-loss OU at #6? That puts us ahead of undefeated Miss St and Florida St. What we really need is a playoff based on Sagarin Ratings. :DCorrect
But they aren't #2 and wouldnt be in the National Championship game either at the #4 spot correct with the computers?
Wonder if Alabama goes to #1 having the same record as Oregon and beating the #1 team
dhook27
11-16-2014, 12:18 AM
FSU is the luckeist/clutch team I've ever seen lol
dhook27
11-16-2014, 12:35 AM
Auburn would be on 3 game losing streak if it weren't for that fuckery ending in Ole Miss http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/chrome-extension://cahedbegdkagmcjfolhdlechbkeaieki/images/apple/1f612.png
dhook27
11-16-2014, 12:36 AM
FSU gonna be one and done in the playoff tho
JBHuskers
11-16-2014, 10:53 AM
Muschamp fired at Florida!
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dhook27
11-16-2014, 12:22 PM
Muschamp fired at Florida!
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So they fired him but he's gonna coach them til the season is done? Lol
JBHuskers
11-16-2014, 12:24 PM
So they fired him but he's gonna coach them til the season is done? Lol
That's not uncommon.
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SmoothPancakes
11-16-2014, 12:39 PM
That's not uncommon.
Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.
Yep. Plus, despite doing bad enough to get fired, he's probably still a better option then any of their assistant coaches to take over on a temporary basis. Meanwhile, this way, Florida can officially start looking for a new head coach and the program can move on instead of having to deal with the never ending rumors week after week (ala Michigan).
dhook27
11-16-2014, 01:12 PM
Yoo imagine if Mizzou beat Bama and made the playoffs
Biggest plot twist
SmoothPancakes
11-16-2014, 03:26 PM
Yoo imagine if Mizzou beat Bama and made the playoffs
Biggest plot twist
They wouldn't make it. Considering Missouri wasn't even in the college football playoff rankings last week, two of their last three games are against Tennessee and Arkansas (no help in attempting to climb the rankings), Missouri would have to be no worse #8 before playing Alabama to make it.
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SmoothPancakes
11-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Plus Missouri as a whole blows. They've only been aided by playing a weak ass schedule and playing in the weak ass division in the SEC.
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dhook27
11-16-2014, 05:01 PM
They wouldn't make it. Considering Missouri wasn't even in the college football playoff rankings last week, two of their last three games are against Tennessee and Arkansas (no help in attempting to climb the rankings), Missouri would have to be no worse #8 before playing Alabama to make it.
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Does a 1 loss Miss St. make it if Alabama wins the SEC CG?
dhook27
11-16-2014, 05:02 PM
I think OSU could jump teams after conference championship weekend...but I wouldn't put money on it.
We need three more losses.
SmoothPancakes
11-16-2014, 05:05 PM
Does a 1 loss Miss St. make it if Alabama wins the SEC CG?
If Alabama, Oregon and Florida State all win out, god only knows. It'll be a wait and see between Mississippi State, Baylor, TCU and Ohio State.
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dhook27
11-16-2014, 05:13 PM
No team that gets killed by the Gators should even sniff the playoffs foh
dhook27
11-16-2014, 05:13 PM
AP poll and Coaches Poll have the exact same top 8:
1. FSU
2. Alabama
3. Oregon
4. Miss State
5. TCU
6. Baylor
7. OSU
8. Ole Miss
dhook27
11-16-2014, 05:18 PM
If Alabama, Oregon and Florida State all win out, god only knows. It'll be a wait and see between Mississippi State, Baylor, TCU and Ohio State.
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I think if we win out we definitely jump Baylor. Baylor is screwed, IMO. That's one spot
souljahbill
11-16-2014, 05:53 PM
I think if we win out we definitely jump Baylor. Baylor is screwed, IMO. That's one spot
TCU is actually the one who is screwed if both Baylor and TCU win out since Baylor owns the head-to-head tiebreaker.
JeffHCross
11-16-2014, 10:20 PM
TCU is actually the one who is screwed if both Baylor and TCU win out since Baylor owns the head-to-head tiebreaker.Which doesn't mean they don't get screwed.
souljahbill
11-16-2014, 10:21 PM
Which doesn't mean they don't get screwed.
Yeah. I should have changed his wording.
bdoughty
11-17-2014, 06:05 AM
No team that gets killed by the Gators should even sniff the playoffs foh
Says the team that lost by 2 TD's to Virginia Tech (2-4 in the mighty ACC) while Florida is .500 in the SEC. Just something to ponder when you try to break down a team based on a single game they played.
Not to mention struggling to beat these guys last week.
http://i.imgur.com/zDIx8Ri.gif
JeffHCross
11-17-2014, 07:11 AM
Not to mention struggling to beat these guys last week.I didn't realize that playing a relatively close game on the road against a 7-2 opponent, in weather cold enough that it would make the SEC shrivel, was a knock against a team.
But calling it a struggle is like calling Florida State's wins comfortable.
bdoughty
11-17-2014, 07:22 AM
I didn't realize that playing a relatively close game on the road against a 7-2 opponent, in weather cold enough that it would make the SEC shrivel, was a knock against a team.
There was a joke in there somewhere. Maybe look for a picture, possibly an animated one. Big guy eating a dilly bar in the snow. I thought it was fairly obvious but will be sure and follow anything in jest or sarcasm with the standard. ;)
:fp:
SmoothPancakes
11-17-2014, 09:57 AM
While it was a joke with bdoughty's post (I LOVED that gif when I first saw it on my phone Saturday afternoon! Funny as hell! Eating ice cream in 20 degrees and a snow storm and not a single damn was given. :D), sadly ESPN sure wasn't joking with their choice of headlines. Just does nothing but continue the cycle.
It's funny, having a rough first half in 20 degree or colder weather against a talented 7-2 top 25 Minnesota team, only to build up a double digit lead and really not be in danger of losing that game in the final minutes, and Ohio State "escapes" Minnesota. Having to score 21 third quarter points after trailing 20-10 and 27-17 during two points in the third quarter, and barely hanging on to beat a 3-7 piss poor Kansas, well, that's "passing a test" in the Big 12. :fp:
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/SmoothPancakes/IMG_20141116_070714_zpsa1u4cce0.jpg
dhook27
11-17-2014, 03:32 PM
Says the team that lost by 2 TD's to Virginia Tech (2-4 in the mighty ACC) while Florida is .500 in the SEC. Just something to ponder when you try to break down a team based on a single game they played.
Not to mention struggling to beat these guys last week.
http://i.imgur.com/zDIx8Ri.gif
We are totally a different team from week 2 bruh
dhook27
11-17-2014, 03:35 PM
The ACC is definitely the worst power 5 conference. It really isn't even close.
bdoughty
11-17-2014, 05:14 PM
We are totally a different team from week 2 bruh
Each team is different on a weekly basis, bruh. Injuries, matchups, etc. Point was not to base a teams overall performance on a single game. Point obviously failed.
bdoughty
11-17-2014, 10:12 PM
http://youtu.be/FhWhZottm0U
SmoothPancakes
11-18-2014, 06:10 PM
The newest college football playoff rankings.
Ranking
Team
Record
Last Week
#1
Alabama
9-1
#5
#2
Oregon
9-1
#2
#3
Florida State
10-0
#3
#4
Mississippi State
9-1
#1
#5
TCU
9-1
#4
#6
Ohio State
9-1
#8
#7
Baylor
8-1
#7
#8
Ole Miss
8-2
#10
#9
UCLA
8-2
#11
#10
Georgia
8-2
#15
#11
Michigan State
8-2
#12
#12
Kansas State
7-2
#13
#13
Arizona State
8-2
#6
#14
Auburn
7-3
#9
#15
Arizona
8-2
#14
#16
Wisconsin
8-2
#20
#17
Utah
7-3
#23
#18
Georgia Tech
9-2
#22
#19
USC
7-3
NR
#20
Missouri
8-2
NR
#21
Oklahoma
7-3
NR
#22
Clemson
7-3
#19
#23
Nebraska
8-2
#16
#24
Louisville
7-3
NR
#25
Minnesota
7-3
#25
bdoughty
11-18-2014, 06:35 PM
Had TCU done their job against Kansas, they "probably" stay at #4. Instead they sneak by and deservedly get placed behind Miss St. Plenty of games left but that would be some kick in the ass if you end up not making the playoffs due to a bad week against the mighty Jayhawks.
souljahbill
11-18-2014, 06:53 PM
Had TCU done their job against Kansas, they "probably" stay at #4. Instead they sneak by and deservedly get placed behind Miss St. Plenty of games left but that would be some kick in the ass if you end up not making the playoffs due to a bad week against the mighty Jayhawks.
Baylor is going to pass them up if they both win out. TCU has the no shot unless people ahead lose.
bdoughty
11-18-2014, 07:18 PM
Baylor is going to pass them up if they both win out. TCU has the no shot unless people ahead lose.
I guess it is possible but why have they not passed them already? Because Baylor played more cupcakes in the non-conference. The other problem Baylor could face is if Kansas St loses this weekend in Morgantown. Making their matchup with KSU a lesser event. Also Texas has been improving quite a bit and if TCU can bounce back and lay the smack down in Austin, that will look like a far better win than it would a few weeks ago. I do not see Baylor passing TCU. I can see Ohio St passing TCU by winning out and have a great performance in the Championship game.
dhook27
11-18-2014, 07:41 PM
Saban vs Meyer. It's happening people.
dhook27
11-18-2014, 07:42 PM
Bama/OSU
Oregon/FSU
JeffHCross
11-19-2014, 07:43 AM
There was a joke in there somewhere. Maybe look for a picture, possibly an animated one. Big guy eating a dilly bar in the snow. I thought it was fairly obvious but will be sure and follow anything in jest or sarcasm with the standard. ;)
:fp:Including a funny picture representing a team is usually a way to insult them, not sarcasm. But yeah, I totally missed it. :D
dhook27
11-19-2014, 02:28 PM
We are gonna build up all this hype and have a shot at the playoffs just to lose to wisconsin...I can already feel the tears coming
dhook27
11-19-2014, 02:29 PM
still laughing at what jeff long said:
Why is Alabama #1? Decisive victory over Miss. St.
Why is Ms. St. #4? "You never felt they were out of the game."
bdoughty
11-19-2014, 05:52 PM
It's fascinating that your thoughts come in in one minute increments.
dhook27
11-23-2014, 01:26 PM
On the real tho, how do SEC teams get away with playing such ridiculously terrible teams at this point in the season? http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/void0-9.gif
bdoughty
11-23-2014, 06:47 PM
On the real tho, how do SEC teams get away with playing such ridiculously terrible teams at this point in the season? http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/void0-9.gif
They have been doing it for a few years. It's not like they removed a conference game to have them. Just moving a non-conference game you would see played at the beginning of the season to the week before your rival. It's like a second bye week and smart scheduling. Of course it does not always guarantee a win, see Florida's schedule last year.
dhook27
11-23-2014, 11:03 PM
They have been doing it for a few years. It's not like they removed a conference game to have them. Just moving a non-conference game you would see played at the beginning of the season to the week before your rival. It's like a second bye week and smart scheduling. Of course it does not always guarantee a win, see Florida's schedule last year.
If you're too scared to play teams in your conference, then you shouldn't be in that conference http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyeshrug.jpg
At the very least schedule games with another decent conference. Playing cupcakes at this point in the season is so pussy
If you're too scared to play teams in your conference, then you shouldn't be in that conference http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyeshrug.jpg
At the very least schedule games with another decent conference. Playing cupcakes at this point in the season is so pussy
Conference schedules are set automatically. Don't get your first comment. And playing cupcakes at all is pussy. But it's really about a ton of cash they also get for doing it. That's my biggest complaint with college football - the cupcake scheduling. But EVERYONE does it. The only difference in the SEC is that they schedule their cupcakes on the back end unlike the Big 10 who plays them in September. It's a great strategy because a late loss always hurts you in the opinion polls more than an early one. If you aren't a powerhouse and try to creep in the back door of the Top 4 playoff and miss out based on strength of schedule you only have yourself to blame.
dhook27
11-24-2014, 06:12 AM
Conference schedules are set automatically. Don't get your first comment. And playing cupcakes at all is pussy. But it's really about a ton of cash they also get for doing it. That's my biggest complaint with college football - the cupcake scheduling. But EVERYONE does it. The only difference in the SEC is that they schedule their cupcakes on the back end unlike the Big 10 who plays them in September. It's a great strategy because a late loss always hurts you in the opinion polls more than an early one. If you aren't a powerhouse and try to creep in the back door of the Top 4 playoff and miss out based on strength of schedule you only have yourself to blame.
Pac-12 can schedule fcs teams, the only conference that dosn't is the big ten
USC & UCLA choose not to schedule fcs teams too. No excuses tbh
Pac-12 can schedule fcs teams, the only conference that dosn't is the big ten
USC & UCLA choose not to schedule fcs teams too. No excuses tbh
FCS or a bottom feeding BCS team - not much difference imo. The Big 10 loves to schedule patsies too. Heck, a team schedules ONE tough opponent out of 4 ooc games and they want a pat on the back. OSU had VT and three layups. The only tough game MSU scheduled was Oregon and they lost. Michigan wasn't much better and we'll see when the Notre Dame game ends.
I would support a larger playoff structure IF everyone actually played games they had a real chance at losing. For the most part all of the top teams have MAYBE one tough ooc game and the champions will win that. Then almost half of the conference opponents are weak. The truth is an 8-4 record in college football implies a mediocre team imo. You should be able to sleep walk through at least 4 games for wins and just go .500 against the remaining opponents. You have to win 10+ games to earn any respect. That's the biggest difference between college and the NFL - all the teams are much closer in talent. Often the only difference between a great team and an average one is the QB.
bdoughty
11-24-2014, 08:06 AM
the only conference that dosn't is the big ten
What? A Big Ten team is responsible for one of the great upsets ever by an FCS school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA_zeMCnlWY
Now for the Big Ten Teams who played an FCS school this year.
Michigan St - Jacksonville St
Maryland - James Madison
Rutgers - Howard
Indiana - Indiana St
Wisconsin - Western Illinois
Minnesota - Eastern Illinois
Nebraska - McNeese St
Iowa - Northern Iowa
Northwestern - Western Illinois
Illinois - Youngstown St
Purdue - Southern Illinois
Not to mention that every Big Ten team schedules a MAC opponent. Generally a top FCS school is as competitive as a MAC team. You have a solid MAC team every so often but the majority are just a step above what you would see in the FCS playoffs. If North Dakota St was in the MAC it would probably dominate it.
So when it comes to cupcakes, the Big Ten has as much frosting, if not more than any other conference.
JeffHCross
11-24-2014, 10:40 PM
The Big Ten has agreed to phase out FCS games, though obviously they didn't this year. dhook's facts aren't right.
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 02:09 AM
The Big Ten has agreed to phase out FCS games, though obviously they didn't this year. dhook's facts aren't right.
I thought it was a bad idea when they announced it last year. It hurts the FCS schools by not getting a big payday and it also was a showcase for star FCS players to play against FBS competition. Northern Iowa always gave Iowa and Iowa St a run for their money. Still a bunch of teams with FCS opponents on Big Ten schedules for 2015 and 2016 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/2015-college-football-schedules.php). Personally, I hope they reconsider. Nothing better than an FCS upset, unless it happens to be your team they upset.
In fairness to Dhook, he get's his logic from his idol Kanye.
http://i.imgur.com/MlsqNET.jpg
JeffHCross
11-25-2014, 09:21 AM
I thought it was a bad idea when they announced it last year. It hurts the FCS schools by not getting a big payday and it also was a showcase for star FCS players to play against FBS competition. Northern Iowa always gave Iowa and Iowa St a run for their money. Still a bunch of teams with FCS opponents on Big Ten schedules for 2015 and 2016 (http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/2015-college-football-schedules.php). Personally, I hope they reconsider. Nothing better than an FCS upset, unless it happens to be your team they upset.Yeah, there's been a lot of discussion that they may have to reconsider because the FCS teams were at least a guaranteed home date, and schools are fretting that their cash cows won't make enough cash without every home date they can get. The model's going to have to change, because the way it's going now the Power 5 schools are only going to be playing FCS schools for home dates at some point, because BCS schools are too much of a threat to win (not that FCS schools don't do that plenty too).
dhook27
11-25-2014, 02:53 PM
I feel like MSU will be our new rivarly up north. There hasn't been a classic OSU/Mich game all decade. If MSU can sustain success. My guess is, as long as they have Dantonio, they will.
If Michigan doesnt hit a homerun with their coach (Harbaugh or Les) they are fucked.
souljahbill
11-25-2014, 04:43 PM
I feel like MSU will be our new rivarly up north. There hasn't been a classic OSU/Mich game all decade. If MSU can sustain success. My guess is, as long as they have Dantonio, they will.
If Michigan doesnt hit a homerun with their coach (Harbaugh or Les) they are fucked.
*whispers* As someone who lives in Baton Rouge, I can tell you, Les is NOT an upgrade. Les is the beneficiary of LSU basically OWNING Louisiana's recruits (at least the ones Alabama doesn't steal), and being in proximity of other recruiting hotbeds. He would SUCK at Michigan. Hard.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 06:44 PM
Bama doesn't scare me, bring em on man.
I wanna see Saban/Meyer badly
I wanna put the nail in the 'Bama reigns supreme' coffin
Even if we got blown out, whatever, this team has already vastly surpassed my expectations. Making the playoffs wasn't even in my dreams after the VT game.
To be honest though, I don't give a fuck who we play. Nobody is elite this year, we could beat anybody.
Les turned down Michigan last time. I would be stunned if he changed his mind. MICHIGAN doesn't have to hit a Hr, just get a double. Baby steps after a disappointing decade sine Carr retired.
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 07:25 PM
I feel like MSU will be our new rivarly up north. There hasn't been a classic OSU/Mich game all decade. If MSU can sustain success. My guess is, as long as they have Dantonio, they will.
You are no Buckeye fan, just a young boy with a Buckeye avatar. The last three games were all decided by less than a touchdown. Michigan won one of those. Teams go through losing periods but that does not make a rivalry any less special. To actually say that Michigan St will be your new rival is as close to blasphemy as you can get in the state of Ohio. Did Michigan stop playing the Buckeyes when they won or tied the first 15 games in the series? Did Michigan fans stop considering OSU a rival during the John Cooper Era? Nope.
P.S. Michigan still leads the series by 13 games.
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 07:28 PM
Les turned down Michigan last time. I would be stunned if he changed his mind. MICHIGAN doesn't have to hit a Hr, just get a double. Baby steps after a disappointing decade sine Carr retired.
Not to mention that double could followed by hitting the cycle. Bob Stoops had no head coaching experience when he came to OU. I think he turned out pretty well.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 07:35 PM
You are no Buckeye fan, just a young boy with a Buckeye avatar. The last three games were all decided by less than a touchdown. Michigan won one of those. Teams go through losing periods but that does not make a rivalry any less special. To actually say that Michigan St will be your new rival is as close to blasphemy as you can get in the state of Ohio. Did Michigan stop playing the Buckeyes when they won or tied the first 15 games in the series? Did Michigan fans stop considering OSU a rival during the John Cooper Era? Nope.
P.S. Michigan still leads the series by 13 games.
Location: Texas
I've been a buckeye fan since I was 5. Born and raised. And also comprehension is fun. I specifically said classic games. There hasn't been a classic tOSU/Mich game since 2006 (top 5 CFB game OAT btw).
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 08:00 PM
I had a massive wall o' text written in response to this latest post of stupidity by dhook, but my computer fucked up and my browser crashed, losing it all. Give me a few minutes to try and recreate it.
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 08:06 PM
Wow, you have been following a team for a whopping 8 or 9 years. I have been following the series for over 30 years. My location means absolutely nothing. I am a college football fan and try to actually know what I am talking about. You are just a child spouting nonsense. A "classic" can and will be perceived differently and is a matter of opinion. Common Sense is also fun, you should try it.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:17 PM
Wow, you have been following a team for a whopping 8 or 9 years. I have been following the series for over 30 years. My location means absolutely nothing. I am a college football fan and try to actually know what I am talking about. You are just a child spouting nonsense. A "classic" can and will be perceived differently and is a matter of opinion. Common Sense is also fun, you should try it.
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/clappygonethatclapperdead.png totally did not get my point
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 08:28 PM
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/clappygonethatclapperdead.png totally did not get my point
One would have to actually, "Make a point" for the other person to, "Get the point!"
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 08:29 PM
Location: Texas
I've been a buckeye fan since I was 5. Born and raised. And also comprehension is fun. I specifically said classic games. There hasn't been a classic tOSU/Mich game since 2006 (top 5 CFB game OAT btw).
Alright, lets try this again.
First, what does him being from Texas matter? Does being from Texas now automatically disqualify any opinion that person may have?
Second, congrats, you've been a Buckeye fan for 8 years. You don't know jackshit. Learn college football history numbnuts.
Third, the 2006 OSU/Michigan game was amongst the top 5 college football games of ALL TIME? :D :D :D :D :D
Kid, you have a LOT to learn of college football history if you seriously thing that game was amongst the top 5 game of ALL of college football history EVER played.
Fourth, you clearly have no fucking clue what a "classic game" is. The last THREE Ohio State-Michigan games have been classics.
Last year, a 12-0 #3 Ohio State vs. a 7 win Michigan. It was a back and forth game from beginning to end in which the biggest margin of score was a 14 point difference. In the end, it all came down to a single two point attempt with 32 seconds left that made the decision between one team winning by one point and one team losing by one point. If Michigan had simply kicked the PAT, that game was almost all but assured of going into overtime. If that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
2012, a 12-0 #4 Ohio State vs. an 8 win #20 Michigan. Another true back and forth affair from beginning to end, with the largest margin of score being the ultimately final 5 point difference. It was 21-20 at halftime and the only points in the entire second half came on two Ohio State field goals. The entire second half was a true defensive battle. A SINGLE defensive breakdown could have completely changed the outcome of that game and the score and winner. Again, if that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
2011, a 6 win Ohio State vs. a 10 win #17 Michigan. Another game that was back and forth, back and forth from beginning to end. The largest margin of score was 10 points halfway through the third quarter. The final margin of victory was 6 points, with a potential game winning Ohio State drive being stopped on fourth and 6 with 39 seconds left after an interception near midfield. Again, if that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
Again kiddo, come back in a 10 years or so when you've grown some hair on your balls and actually have a fucking clue of what the fuck you're talking about. :fp:
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:31 PM
Alright, lets try this again.
First, what does him being from Texas matter? Does being from Texas now automatically disqualify any opinion that person may have?
Second, congrats, you've been a Buckeye fan for 8 years. You don't know jackshit. Learn college football history numbnuts.
Third, the 2006 OSU/Michigan game was amongst the top 5 college football games of ALL TIME? :D :D :D :D :D
Kid, you have a LOT to learn of college football history if you seriously thing that game was amongst the top 5 game of ALL of college football history EVER played.
Fourth, you clearly have no fucking clue what a "classic game" is. The last THREE Ohio State-Michigan games have been classics.
Last year, a 12-0 #3 Ohio State vs. a 7 win Michigan. It was a back and forth game from beginning to end in which the biggest margin of score was a 14 point difference. In the end, it all came down to a single two point attempt with 32 seconds left that made the decision between one team winning by one point and one team losing by one point. If Michigan had simply kicked the PAT, that game was almost all but assured of going into overtime. If that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
2012, a 12-0 #4 Ohio State vs. an 8 win #20 Michigan. Another true back and forth affair from beginning to end, with the largest margin of score being the ultimately final 5 point difference. It was 21-20 at halftime and the only points in the entire second half came on two Ohio State field goals. The entire second half was a true defensive battle. A SINGLE defensive breakdown could have completely changed the outcome of that game and the score and winner. Again, if that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
2011, a 6 win Ohio State vs. a 10 win #17 Michigan. Another game that was back and forth, back and forth from beginning to end. The largest margin of score was 10 points halfway through the third quarter. The final margin of victory was 6 points, with a potential game winning Ohio State drive being stopped on fourth and 6 with 39 seconds left after an interception near midfield. Again, if that isn't a classic game, I just don't know what the fuck is.
Again kiddo, come back in a 10 years or so when you've grown some hair on your balls and actually have a fucking clue of what the fuck you're talking about. :fp:
Holy shit all these feels over an opinion http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/clappygonethatclapperdead.png
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:33 PM
Can we agree that the 2012 NCG is the WOAT game? http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/void0-11.gif
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:35 PM
1. USC Texas
2. OSU Miami
3. ND BC
4. USC ND
5. OSU/Mich 06
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 08:45 PM
1. USC Texas
2. OSU Miami
3. ND BC
4. USC ND
5. OSU/Mich 06
Is that you trying to list the greatest/classic college football games of "ALL TIME"? If so, wow, you just proved my point for me that you are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to classic games and college football history. That might be THE shittiest list of greatest/classic college football games of "ALL TIME". :fp:
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 08:46 PM
Holy shit all these feels over an opinion http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/clappygonethatclapperdead.png
That's all you have after I just verbally bitch slapped the fuck out of your ridiculous claims? I'm really starting to see some similarities between Ram and dhook? Can an admin run an IP check on both accounts? I am seriously curious to see if they both aren't coming from the same IP.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:48 PM
Is that you trying to list the greatest/classic college football games of "ALL TIME"? If so, wow, you just proved my point for me that you are absolutely fucking clueless when it comes to classic games and college football history. That might be THE shittiest list of greatest/classic college football games of "ALL TIME". :fp:
Yikesssss http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyelaugh.png
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:49 PM
SmoothPancakes must be sexually frustrated
dhook27
11-25-2014, 08:51 PM
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=1206425.29304
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this poverty thread that is dead 90% of the time
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 08:57 PM
:smh: Your teachers should be shot for the clear failures they have been at their jobs. Raising and teaching a bunch of retards these days. :fp:
steelerfan
11-25-2014, 08:58 PM
:smh: Your parents should be shot for the clear failures they have been at their jobs. Raising and teaching a bunch of retards these days. :fp:
Fixed.
I #TrustTheScript
SmoothPancakes
11-25-2014, 09:00 PM
Fixed.
I #TrustTheScript
Good fix. I suppose the teachers can only do what they have to work with. if they have nothing but stupid and lost causes for students, there's not much the greastest teacher on Earth could possibly do.
In the end, it does all start with the parents. If the parents are failures and act like entitled shits, the children will be failures and act like entitled shits.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 09:03 PM
:smh: Your teachers should be shot for the clear failures they have been at their jobs. Raising and teaching a bunch of retards these days. :fp:
Holy cringe
souljahbill
11-25-2014, 09:08 PM
Fixed.
I #TrustTheScript
Thank you
Signed,
A teacher who works with lost causes
steelerfan
11-25-2014, 09:10 PM
Thank you
Signed,
A teacher who works with lost causes
:up:
I #TrustTheScript
dhook27
11-25-2014, 09:10 PM
Good fix. I suppose the teachers can only do what they have to work with. if they have nothing but stupid and lost causes for students, there's not much the greastest teacher on Earth could possibly do.
In the end, it does all start with the parents. If the parents are failures and act like entitled shits, the children will be failures and act like entitled shits.
So much cringe and corn in one post. Holy shit. YIKES
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 09:22 PM
Just ignore Dhook, it's the only logical thing. He lost any credibility when he mentioned MSU replacing Michigan as a Rival. Had no clue the Big Ten teams were playing FCS schools and won't reply to people correcting everything he says, other than to throw out another stupid emoticon and silly remark. He is the Ram of the college football forum. I stopped posting in the NFL is fixed thread long ago and glad I did.
Enjoy your lost cause Souljahbill. They do not get any more lost than this.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 09:35 PM
Just ignore Dhook, it's the only logical thing. He lost any credibility when he mentioned MSU replacing Michigan as a Rival. Had no clue the Big Ten teams were playing FCS schools and won't reply to people correcting everything he says, other than to throw out another stupid emoticon and silly remark. He is the Ram of the college football forum. I stopped posting in the NFL is fixed thread long ago and glad I did.
Enjoy your lost cause Souljahbill. They do not get any more lost than this.
Nice to see I have fans
bdoughty
11-25-2014, 09:55 PM
"This is not another game. It's The Game."
Urban Meyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc6pr8Iui4k
JeffHCross
11-25-2014, 11:03 PM
FWIW, when I was enrolled at Ohio State, I had fellow students claiming to me after the basketball championship that we lost to Florida (our third loss to Florida in major sports in 14 months) that Florida was going to become our new rival. I guess because Tressel had so dominated Michigan that they forgot why we have that rivalry in the first place. So dhook is far from alone in his naivety.
But there is no way, short of one team ending football or the near equivalent, that Ohio State ever has a bigger rival than Michigan. Michigan State may be our closest competition for the division, and they might do that for a decade or two (hypothetical, not predictive), and the rival would still be Michigan.
dhook27
11-25-2014, 11:05 PM
FWIW, when I was enrolled at Ohio State, I had fellow students claiming to me after the basketball championship that we lost to Florida (our third loss to Florida in major sports in 14 months) that Florida was going to become our new rival. I guess because Tressel had so dominated Michigan that they forgot why we have that rivalry in the first place. So dhook is far from alone in his naivety.
But there is no way, short of one team ending football or the near equivalent, that Ohio State ever has a bigger rival than Michigan. Michigan State may be our closest competition for the division, and they might do that for a decade or two (hypothetical, not predictive), and the rival would still be Michigan.
Thank you for an actual mature response
bdoughty
11-26-2014, 12:21 AM
Thank you for an actual mature response
He called you NAIVE by the way, it was not complementary. Ignorance of "The Ohio State football team and it's true rival" is not limited to your homestead in Toledo.
bdoughty
11-26-2014, 02:52 AM
http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=1206425.29304
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this poverty thread that is dead 90% of the time
How did I miss this winner of a post? If this place sucks so much take your ass back to KaynedyLand. It will save you from having to copy and paste your replies here, to such a small audience.
SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 03:41 AM
FWIW, when I was enrolled at Ohio State, I had fellow students claiming to me after the basketball championship that we lost to Florida (our third loss to Florida in major sports in 14 months) that Florida was going to become our new rival. I guess because Tressel had so dominated Michigan that they forgot why we have that rivalry in the first place. So dhook is far from alone in his naivety.
But there is no way, short of one team ending football or the near equivalent, that Ohio State ever has a bigger rival than Michigan. Michigan State may be our closest competition for the division, and they might do that for a decade or two (hypothetical, not predictive), and the rival would still be Michigan.
Oh, he's FAR from being alone in his naivety. But he also has a LOT to learn about college football history and "classic games" if he thinks the last three years of the Ohio State-Michigan game were NOT classic games, and thinks that the 2006 Ohio State-Michigan game was top 5 among the greatest/classic college football games of "ALL TIME".
But god bless that period in life when one can be a completely clueless 13 year old who thinks they know everything and know what's what about the world, when they probably haven't even lost their cherry yet.
JeffHCross
11-26-2014, 07:12 AM
2006 was the game of the century, Smooth.
Mostly because I was there ;)
He called you NAIVE by the way, it was not complementary.That doesn't mean it wasn't a mature response. People can disagree on the Internet and it still be a mature discussion ;)
SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 07:17 AM
2006 was the game of the century, Smooth.
Mostly because I was there ;)
:D
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bdoughty
11-26-2014, 08:12 AM
That doesn't mean it wasn't a mature response. People can disagree on the Internet and it still be a mature discussion ;)
But you are white and therefore not capable of having either a civil or mature discussion with Dhook. You referred to him as naive, which is basically a hate crime. :P
JBHuskers
11-26-2014, 12:23 PM
But you are white and therefore not capable of having either a civil or mature discussion with Dhook. You referred to him as naive, which is basically a hate crime. :P
This. :D
Boy has a lot to learn if he's going to avoid flipping BK burgers at age 30.
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SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 12:57 PM
This. :D
Boy has a lot to learn if he's going to avoid flipping BK burgers at age 30.
Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.
That's if he doesn't end up in prison first. I can't help but get the feeling he is going to end up with a criminal record before he even graduates high school. He just gives off those vibes.
JBHuskers
11-26-2014, 02:39 PM
That's if he doesn't end up in prison first. I can't help but get the feeling he is going to end up with a criminal record before he even graduates high school. He just gives off those vibes.
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/273/566/5b4.gif
SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 03:25 PM
:D In this case, I think it's the truth. And not because of his race, but because he has a LOT of learning and growing up to do in a short time. And I'm certainly not going to put my money on him to learn and grow up sufficiently in only a couple year's time when he clearly hasn't bothered in his previous 13 years.
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dhook27
11-26-2014, 04:15 PM
That's if he doesn't end up in prison first. I can't help but get the feeling he is going to end up with a criminal record before he even graduates high school. He just gives off those vibes.
Such racism in one post lmao. U know nothing about me. I'm D1 bound so u can shut the fuck up
dhook27
11-26-2014, 04:16 PM
This. :D
Boy has a lot to learn if he's going to avoid flipping BK burgers at age 30.
Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.
U have 30K post on a dead internet forum. YIKES lmao
bdoughty
11-26-2014, 05:50 PM
Such racism in one post lmao. U know nothing about me. I'm D1 bound so u can shut the fuck up
Cell Block D1 or D1 who makes the fries at Burger King.
bdoughty
11-26-2014, 05:52 PM
U have 30K post on a dead internet forum. YIKES lmao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoyvvEWHodk
JBHuskers
11-26-2014, 06:10 PM
U have 30K post on a dead internet forum. YIKES lmao
Probably because I'm co-founder of the site. This site gets plenty of traffic, but not as many hits as you'll take on the shower floor of cell block D.
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SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 06:14 PM
Such racism in one post lmao. U know nothing about me. I'm D1 bound so u can shut the fuck up
Yes you are indeed. Here's a look at your future D1 home.
http://www.waynecounty.com/sheriff/1347.htm
And I would LOVE to see you make me "shut the fuck up" there buttercup. You couldn't do shit because you're nothing but a little wannabe punk bitch. :D
JBHuskers
11-26-2014, 06:16 PM
Yes you are indeed. Here's a look at your future D1 home.
http://www.waynecounty.com/sheriff/1347.htm
And I would LOVE to see you make me "shut the fuck up" there buttercup. You couldn't do shit because you're nothing but a little wannabe punk bitch. :D
Bowling Green will need a waterboy in 2018.
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SmoothPancakes
11-26-2014, 06:19 PM
Bowling Green will need a waterboy in 2018.
Using Tapatalk on my Samsung Galaxy S5 for shats & gaggles.
I'd feel sorry for Bowling Green. Plus him being from Toledo and a Toledo Rocket fan, he'd probably try and poison the water.
bdoughty
11-26-2014, 06:28 PM
A peek into the future.
http://i.imgur.com/ohgPXWM.gif
souljahbill
11-27-2014, 07:12 AM
Guys, y'all should probably turn it down a smidge. Y'all are going kinda hard at each other.
dhook27
11-28-2014, 08:52 PM
So an average Big 12 school has made the SEC CG 2 years in a row...
bdoughty
11-28-2014, 09:10 PM
So an average Big 12 school has made the SEC CG 2 years in a row...
Yet a certain elite Big Ten school has a (1-10) record against an SEC team in a bowl games.
dhook27
11-28-2014, 09:22 PM
Yet a certain elite Big Ten school has a (1-10) record against an SEC team in a bowl games.
Ummm ok? lol
bdoughty
11-28-2014, 09:25 PM
Ummm ok? lol
Dat all U gat? Yo U be gettin an "L" home skillet.
BRUH...
dhook27
11-28-2014, 10:16 PM
Dat all U gat? Yo U be gettin an "L" home skillet.
BRUH...
you tried
bdoughty
11-29-2014, 12:43 AM
you tried
BRUH. http://i.imgur.com/E9Pg07x.gif
dhook27
11-29-2014, 09:31 AM
BRUH. http://i.imgur.com/E9Pg07x.gif
cringe
bdoughty
11-29-2014, 09:36 AM
cringe
BRUH? http://i.imgur.com/fIv1y4v.gif
JeffHCross
11-29-2014, 10:48 AM
Yet a certain elite Big Ten school has a (1-10) record against an SEC team in a bowl games.There is no Big Ten team with that record.
0-10, maybe...
bdoughty
11-29-2014, 07:34 PM
There is no Big Ten team with that record.
0-10, maybe...
http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/ohst/sec.shtml
JeffHCross
11-30-2014, 09:22 AM
http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/ohst/sec.shtml
2011/01/04 Ohio St 31 - Arkansas 26 W !! Sugar Bowl !!That game didn't happen.
That is a really cool site though.
bdoughty
11-30-2014, 09:41 AM
That game didn't happen.
That is a really cool site though.
Ah, completely forgot they forfeited it. :fp:
Yeah it is a neat site for facts and figures. The whose team is better is good for a laugh or two (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/ncaafmu.shtml).
This was before the game yesterday.
In 2014, is Michigan better than Ohio St?
Yes! Here's why:
First, on 2014/08/30, Michigan beat Appalachian St 52 - 14
Next, on 2014/11/08, Appalachian St beat Louisiana Monroe 31 - 29
Next, on 2014/08/28, Louisiana Monroe beat Wake Forest 17 - 10
Next, on 2014/11/22, Wake Forest beat Virginia Tech 6 - 3 OT
Finally, on 2014/09/06, Virginia Tech beat Ohio St 35 - 21
:D
Arkansas St better than Alabama? You betcha!
In 2014, is Arkansas St better than Alabama?
Yes! Here's why:
First, on 2014/09/20, Arkansas St beat Utah St 21 - 14 OT
Next, on 2014/09/13, Utah St beat Wake Forest 36 - 24
Next, on 2014/11/22, Wake Forest beat Virginia Tech 6 - 3 OT
Next, on 2014/09/06, Virginia Tech beat Ohio St 35 - 21
Next, on 2014/11/22, Ohio St beat Indiana 42 - 27
Next, on 2014/09/20, Indiana beat Missouri 31 - 27
Next, on 2014/11/15, Missouri beat Texas AM 34 - 27
Next, on 2014/11/08, Texas AM beat Auburn 41 - 38
Next, on 2014/11/01, Auburn beat Mississippi 35 - 31
Finally, on 2014/10/04, Mississippi beat Alabama 23 - 17
:P
JeffHCross
11-30-2014, 09:58 AM
I'd heard that Wake over Virginia Tech was the gift that kept on giving, but wow.
dhook27
11-30-2014, 10:16 AM
Feel awful for Barrett, the fact that some analysts are saying we shouldn't make playoff even if we win cause now we aren't a top 4 team is ridiculous.
dhook27
11-30-2014, 10:16 AM
Even without a QB we have a good team. Elliot usually gets 2 TD's a game and our wide outs are always good. I mean we score over 40 points regularly. And our defense is good. Hope this bullshit doesn't effect it.
SmoothPancakes
11-30-2014, 10:56 AM
Ah, completely forgot they forfeited it. :fp:
Yeah it is a neat site for facts and figures. The whose team is better is good for a laugh or two (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/ncaafmu.shtml).
This was before the game yesterday.
In 2014, is Michigan better than Ohio St?
Yes! Here's why:
First, on 2014/08/30, Michigan beat Appalachian St 52 - 14
Next, on 2014/11/08, Appalachian St beat Louisiana Monroe 31 - 29
Next, on 2014/08/28, Louisiana Monroe beat Wake Forest 17 - 10
Next, on 2014/11/22, Wake Forest beat Virginia Tech 6 - 3 OT
Finally, on 2014/09/06, Virginia Tech beat Ohio St 35 - 21
:D
Arkansas St better than Alabama? You betcha!
In 2014, is Arkansas St better than Alabama?
Yes! Here's why:
First, on 2014/09/20, Arkansas St beat Utah St 21 - 14 OT
Next, on 2014/09/13, Utah St beat Wake Forest 36 - 24
Next, on 2014/11/22, Wake Forest beat Virginia Tech 6 - 3 OT
Next, on 2014/09/06, Virginia Tech beat Ohio St 35 - 21
Next, on 2014/11/22, Ohio St beat Indiana 42 - 27
Next, on 2014/09/20, Indiana beat Missouri 31 - 27
Next, on 2014/11/15, Missouri beat Texas AM 34 - 27
Next, on 2014/11/08, Texas AM beat Auburn 41 - 38
Next, on 2014/11/01, Auburn beat Mississippi 35 - 31
Finally, on 2014/10/04, Mississippi beat Alabama 23 - 17
:P
Nothing will ever top 2003 when NAIA McPherson State was better than co-national champions LSU and USC. :D
http://www.cfbanalyzer.com/cgi-bin/chain.cgi?year=2003&mode=chain&teams1=McPherson&teams2=LSU&subbtn=Find+a+Chain%21
http://www.cfbanalyzer.com/cgi-bin/chain.cgi?year=2003&mode=chain&teams1=McPherson&teams2=Southern+Cal&subbtn=Find+a+Chain%21
Feel awful for Barrett, the fact that some analysts are saying we shouldn't make playoff even if we win cause now we aren't a top 4 team is ridiculous.
I agree with the analysts. OSU is borderline. I know it's a rivalry game but to leapfrog into the final 4 they needed to pound Michigan at home and they didn't put that lousy team down until the 4th. Now with your third QB and a weak big 10 conference you want to leapfrog people to represent a future champion? I just don't see it but it may be a moot point if they lose in the title game.
dhook27
11-30-2014, 02:02 PM
I agree with the analysts. OSU is borderline. I know it's a rivalry game but to leapfrog into the final 4 they needed to pound Michigan at home and they didn't put that lousy team down until the 4th. Now with your third QB and a weak big 10 conference you want to leapfrog people to represent a future champion? I just don't see it but it may be a moot point if they lose in the title game.
I think winning the B1G CCG in one of the better years for the B1G this decade WITH our 3rd string QB is more than enough to get us in. Our SOS>Baylors
SmoothPancakes
11-30-2014, 02:31 PM
I think winning the B1G CCG in one of the better years for the B1G this decade WITH our 3rd string QB is more than enough to get us in. Our SOS>Baylors
You act like Ohio State has already won it. Last I checked, Ohio State still has to play a very talented Wisconsin next Saturday, and with a third string QB. I would say a Big Ten CCG victory is FAAAR from assured.
dhook27
11-30-2014, 04:34 PM
You act like Ohio State has already won it. Last I checked, Ohio State still has to play a very talented Wisconsin next Saturday, and with a third string QB. I would say a Big Ten CCG victory is FAAAR from assured.
I'm saying the hypethetical. I actually don't think we win tbh. I say we lose 27-24 and Gordon rushes for 200+.
SmoothPancakes
11-30-2014, 04:45 PM
I'm saying the hypethetical. I actually don't think we win tbh. I say we lose 27-24 and Gordon rushes for 200+.
Ah, alright, just making sure. :D
I'm putting my money on Wisconsin. Ohio State is going to be tested defensively and their offense is going to have to figure things out quick with s third string QB at helm. And quite frankly, I haven't been impressed in the slightest by Ohio State's performances the last couple weeks.
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dhook27
11-30-2014, 04:49 PM
Ah, alright, just making sure. :D
I'm putting my money on Wisconsin. Ohio State is going to be tested defensively and their offense is going to have to figure things out quick with s third string QB at helm. And quite frankly, I haven't been impressed in the slightest by Ohio State's performances the last couple weeks.
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idk I hope Cardale proves me wrong and pulls a Kenny G
dhook27
11-30-2014, 04:51 PM
If OSU beats Wisoncsin we deserve to be in over Baylor imo. I don't care who is hurt. Why the hell would any "fan" want to miss out on at least a chance to play (possibly win) the playoffs.
Chances are Bama beats the shit out of us either way, but no way to know for sure until it's played.
I won't have a problem if OSU gets in as the 4th team. If they win the title they have an argument. But like Smooth said, they haven't been impressive lately and that hurts. They need to really impress to jump people.
On a different note, Michigan should be embarrassed at how poor they are. 5-7? Pathetic. A soft and untalented team. I miss the days of big time backs, a huge OL and ramming it down their throats. Really disappointed in Hoke. Should be fired any time now. Will UM fans embrace a new approach or reject a Rich Rod type guy? A fickle fan base with an uncertain future.
dhook27
11-30-2014, 06:22 PM
I won't have a problem if OSU gets in as the 4th team. If they win the title they have an argument. But like Smooth said, they haven't been impressive lately and that hurts. They need to really impress to jump people.
On a different note, Michigan should be embarrassed at how poor they are. 5-7? Pathetic. A soft and untalented team. Really disappointed in Hoke. Should be fired any time now.
They don't wanna fire him till after Jan 18th
bdoughty
11-30-2014, 07:50 PM
I think winning the B1G CCG in one of the better years for the B1G this decade WITH our 3rd string QB is more than enough to get us in. Our SOS>Baylors
Why do you keep mentioning Baylor? TCU is the team you would need to jump and they put a whopping on Texas in Austin. Baylor struggled with Tech. TCU has a gimmie at home against Iowa St. Baylor would have to beat Kansas St by 50+ to even have a chance and their SOS still kicks them in the ass. TCU also has that 30-7 win against Minnesota that does not hurt their resume against Ohio St.
SmoothPancakes
11-30-2014, 08:22 PM
Why do you keep mentioning Baylor? TCU is the team you would need to jump and they put a whopping on Texas in Austin. Baylor struggled with Tech. TCU has a gimmie at home against Iowa St. Baylor would have to beat Kansas St by 50+ to even have a chance and their SOS still kicks them in the ass. TCU also has that 30-7 win against Minnesota that does not hurt their resume against Ohio St.
Yep, Baylor doesn't matter at all. Ohio State has to hope TCU somehow faceplants against Iowa State, or that Arizona somehow knocks off Oregon for the second time this season. Those are Ohio State's only chances.
bdoughty
11-30-2014, 09:00 PM
Yep, Baylor doesn't matter at all. Ohio State has to hope TCU somehow faceplants against Iowa State, or that Arizona somehow knocks off Oregon for the second time this season. Those are Ohio State's only chances.
Also they jump in with Alabama losing to Missouri. Imagine a playoff with no SEC teams in it. What a wonderful world. Florida St could also get knocked off by those chop blockers at Ga Tech.
SmoothPancakes
11-30-2014, 09:08 PM
Also they jump in with Alabama losing to Missouri. Imagine a playoff with no SEC teams in it. What a wonderful world. Florida St could also get knocked off by those chop blockers at Ga Tech.
I was sticking to realistic chances of upsets next weekend. :D
Though Florida State too has played like crap lately, so it wouldn't be impossible that Georgia Tech would be Florida State.
As for the SEC, Missouri better just hope they stay within 30 of Alabama.
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JeffHCross
11-30-2014, 10:00 PM
I like Georgia Tech's chances. Their team would take advantage of a slow FSU start.
Bama's QB hasn't been impressive away from home (versus his stats at home, at least). If he struggles early like vs Auburn, the Mizzou game could be interesting.
dhook27
12-01-2014, 07:29 PM
Why do I feel like Hoke lowkey has a real chance at keeping his job http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyelaugh.png
volsfan
12-02-2014, 12:03 AM
I will have a wonderful weekend, if Tech beats FSU and Mizz beats Alabama.
dhook27
12-02-2014, 06:21 PM
FSU #4 http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/pollygonethatparrotdead.png
dhook27
12-02-2014, 06:21 PM
this is getting out of hand now http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/lol.gif
dhook27
12-02-2014, 06:22 PM
Lost faith in this playoff thing...give the Noles credit for not losing, fucking ridiculous
And Baylor gets no credit for beating TCU, like holy hell what
dhook27
12-02-2014, 06:23 PM
TCU beat kansas by 4 but that is never brought up http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyelaugh.png
skipwondah33
12-02-2014, 09:50 PM
I agree fully with your past 3 posts
Winning is still the key...regardless how bad or good it is. They can go undefeated and still will be 4th. Only thing going for them is they can't be taken out of the top 4.....can they?????
SmoothPancakes
12-02-2014, 09:57 PM
I don't see how they can. It's a serious indictment of the legitimacy and credibility of the college football playoff in it's very first year if an undefeated team from a power 5 conference gets left out. The little 5 will always get fucked, so had Marshall gone undefeated, it wouldn't have mattered. But if Florida State goes undefeated, the college football playoff loses ALL credibility if an undefeated, AND defending champion, power 5 team is left out behind four one loss teams.
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bdoughty
12-02-2014, 10:55 PM
TCU beat kansas by 4 but that is never brought up http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyelaugh.png
Baylor only beat Texas Tech by 2 points and did so by stopping a two point conversion at the end of the game. If you are going to bring up one, you need to bring up the other. Both have one loss and TCU has the better OOC win. Baylor beat TCU (but it was in Waco and TCU pretty much owned the game for 3 quarters). Baylor has played certain teams better (OU for example which they slaughtered in Norman) than TCU and on the flip side TCU threw 82 points on Tech. It's why I think the power 5 conferences should all have a conference championship and an 8 team playoff. If Baylor beats KSU and does so convincingly they have a valid complaint about being left out. Their biggest complaint would be to the spineless Big 12 commissioner who just decided that with a tie they would have co-champions last week. As long as their is one or more teams in the race for the playoffs. (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11964184/big-12-present-tcu-baylor-co-champions) A touch ironic after all those commercials claiming "One True Champion."
The best quote from the commish.
Only if TCU and Baylor are both left out of the top four would the league acknowledge Baylor's head-to-head win over TCU. By contract, displaced conference champions are guaranteed spots in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic, Vizio Fiesta Bowl and Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl. Bowlsby said the league would then use Baylor's win over TCU to determine which team would play in a New Year's Six bowl.
FSU is in with a win against Ga Tech. Why are they #4? No clue. I think they should be #1 (as every returning champion should be at the beginning of each year) until they lose a game. The one bright spot is that unlike in the FCS playoffs they do not have to play on another teams home field due to it's ranking.
gschwendt
12-03-2014, 08:21 AM
Four years in a row ASU is playing in the Mobile, AL GoDaddy Bowl. That said, this year is the most excited one assuming we can keep our coaching staff in place for the bowl.
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skipwondah33
12-03-2014, 09:45 AM
2nd what B and Smooth said completely
I mean even if you don't consider them winning last year...they are still undefeated in 1 of the major conferences and is the only undefeated team left.
SmoothPancakes
12-03-2014, 12:06 PM
Yep. I could see them maybe, maybe being #2 behind Alabama, but to be fourth? I'm calling bullshit on that. This committee is going to destroy the credibility of this whole thing before the first playoff game even gets played.
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dhook27
12-03-2014, 03:20 PM
If OSU wins, they will swap spots with TCU. Bookit
dhook27
12-03-2014, 03:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gtfL9f5.png
But who isn't out here asking to see boobies on snapchat?
I feel your struggle, Jameis.
SmoothPancakes
12-03-2014, 03:28 PM
If OSU wins, they will swap spots with TCU. Bookit
Considering Ohio State has had weeks to jump TCU, and yet has now fallen two spots behind them (as opposed to just being one spot behind them last week). Hate to say it, but Ohio State is only getting in if someone loses in the top 4. If Alabama, Oregon, Florida State and TCU all win this weekend, Ohio State is gonna get left out.
dhook27
12-03-2014, 03:41 PM
Considering Ohio State has had weeks to jump TCU, and yet has now fallen two spots behind them (as opposed to just being one spot behind them last week). Hate to say it, but Ohio State is only getting in if someone loses in the top 4. If Alabama, Oregon, Florida State and TCU all win this weekend, Ohio State is gonna get left out.
If FSU struggles in first half Saturday I don't see them coming back against Tech tbh.
I think we lose this weekend anyway
Committee probally praying OSU & FSU/Oregon lose so they can slide both TCU & Baylor in there.
SmoothPancakes
12-03-2014, 03:46 PM
If FSU struggles in first half Saturday I don't see them coming back against Tech tbh.
I think we lose this weekend anyway
Committee probally praying OSU & FSU/Oregon lose so they can slide both TCU & Baylor in there.
I do agree there. Florida State has had some tough comebacks lately, but most always against "lesser" teams. Georgia Tech is a damn good team and if Florida State falls in a hole (due to Winston playing like crap again), they are going to have a hard time trying to climb out against Tech.
I also agree that I don't see Ohio State winning this weekend. People have been saying Jones is a talented QB, but he is indeed getting thrown to the wolves this weekend, having to come out and start against a very tough Wisconsin on the huge stage of the Big Ten Championship game. Between trying to get Jones fully up to speed as a starting QB in only a week's time, and the defense having to find some way to shut down Gordon, I'm going with Wisconsin to win this weekend. It won't be a blowout, in fact I think it'll still be a damn good game and a close game, but I think Wisconsin will ultimately win by 10 or 14 points.
dhook27
12-03-2014, 04:23 PM
I do agree there. Florida State has had some tough comebacks lately, but most always against "lesser" teams. Georgia Tech is a damn good team and if Florida State falls in a hole (due to Winston playing like crap again), they are going to have a hard time trying to climb out against Tech.
I also agree that I don't see Ohio State winning this weekend. People have been saying Jones is a talented QB, but he is indeed getting thrown to the wolves this weekend, having to come out and start against a very tough Wisconsin on the huge stage of the Big Ten Championship game. Between trying to get Jones fully up to speed as a starting QB in only a week's time, and the defense having to find some way to shut down Gordon, I'm going with Wisconsin to win this weekend. It won't be a blowout, in fact I think it'll still be a damn good game and a close game, but I think Wisconsin will ultimately win by 10 or 14 points.
Rumors are all across Razorback message boards that Braxton Miller will transfer to Arkansas.
Same with the LB who led UAB in tackles past 2 years. http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/kanyelaugh.png
bdoughty
12-03-2014, 06:53 PM
Committee probally praying OSU & FSU/Oregon lose so they can slide both TCU & Baylor in there.
:fp: Yes the committee really wants TCU and Balylor. I mean who wouldn't want these two yearly powerhouses playing in the first NCAA Tournament. The Disciples of Christ versus the Baptist. That is like saying the NFL wants Arizona and Cincinnati to make the Super Bowl or the NBA wants Toronto and Memphis in the finals.
Ohio State is not going to pass TCU if TCU wins. You can say it a hundred times, followed by you saying the OSU won't beat Wiscy and it will not matter. TCU just jumped FSU for cripes sake.
dhook27
12-03-2014, 07:03 PM
:fp: Yes the committee really wants TCU and Balylor. I mean who wouldn't want these two yearly powerhouses playing in the first NCAA Tournament. The Disciples of Christ versus the Baptist. That is like saying the NFL wants Arizona and Cincinnati to make the Super Bowl or the NBA wants Toronto and Memphis in the finals.
Ohio State is not going to pass TCU if TCU wins. You can say it a hundred times, followed by you saying the OSU won't beat Wiscy and it will not matter. TCU just jumped FSU for cripes sake.
They'd much rather have both go than have to pick one
bdoughty
12-03-2014, 07:09 PM
They'd much rather have both go than have to pick one
They have already picked one, TCU. Baylor is on the outside looking in. Pretty simple math here, you win and you are in.
dhook27
12-03-2014, 07:15 PM
They have already picked one, TCU. Baylor is on the outside looking in. Pretty simple math here, you win and you are in.
What are your predictions for this weekend?
bdoughty
12-03-2014, 07:21 PM
What are your predictions for this weekend?
I think the top 4 all win. Baylor wins in a close game with KSU. Ohio St Wiscy is a coin toss, could go either way.
bdoughty
12-03-2014, 08:16 PM
But who isn't out here asking to see boobies on snapchat?
I feel your struggle, Jameis.
The only struggle for Jameis is the use of his brain. He did this a day before his sexual assault disciplinary hearing. :smh:
dhook27
12-03-2014, 08:50 PM
The only struggle for Jameis is the use of his brain. He did this a day before his sexual assault disciplinary hearing. :smh:
omg noooo really? http://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/Smileys/default/pollygonethatparrotdead.png
steelerfan
12-05-2014, 01:00 PM
Hillbilly Nebraska player tries to take a selfie with a racoon, it bites him, he beats it to death with a wrench. Can't make this stuff up.
http://deadspin.com/nebraska-player-bludgeons-raccoon-that-bit-him-mid-self-1667206914
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dhook27
12-05-2014, 02:35 PM
Hillbilly Nebraska player tries to take a selfie with a racoon, it bites him, he beats it to death with a wrench. Can't make this stuff up.
http://deadspin.com/nebraska-player-bludgeons-raccoon-that-bit-him-mid-self-1667206914
I #TrustTheScript
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dhook27
12-05-2014, 05:17 PM
If all the top teams win:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. FSU
5. Baylor
6. TCU
Really what I think happens.
dhook27
12-05-2014, 05:17 PM
ESPN wants FSU vs Bama for the ratings.
It won't be because it makes sense football wise.
souljahbill
12-05-2014, 05:24 PM
ESPN wants FSU vs Bama for the ratings.
It won't be because it makes sense football wise.
ESPN will get ratings regardless of who plays.
SmoothPancakes
12-05-2014, 06:23 PM
If all the top teams win:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. FSU
5. Baylor
6. TCU
Really what I think happens.
Not a chance. If everyone wins, how in the world does TCU plummet from 3rd to 6th? Baylor can campaign all they want, short of a TCU loss, Baylor is not overtaking TCU. Ohio State's only chance is one of the four ahead of them losing. Alabama, TCU, Oregon and Florida State are all locks for the playoff if they win their games this weekend.
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psuexv
12-05-2014, 06:49 PM
ESPN wants FSU vs Bama for the ratings.
It won't be because it makes sense football wise.
:ram?:
I think OSU has a chance to jump tcu if they are impressive.
souljahbill
12-05-2014, 07:40 PM
I think Baylor jumps TCU if they beat K-St. If head-to-head doesn't trump strength of schedule then the process is broken.
SmoothPancakes
12-06-2014, 01:27 AM
Well then that's awfully dickish of the committee to have TCU on the edge at 5th or in the playoff since the very first rankings (and ahead of Baylor since the very first ranking), only to turn around and say "suck it bitches" and drop them, now, at least two spots to let Baylor jump in front of them, if both win this weekend. If something like that is allowed to happen, the process is even more far broken than just some simple head to head wins.
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I think the committee is sending a message that your strength of schedule does matter. Stop scheduling nothing but cupcakes and automatic wins or you will pay for it. I love that message.
dhook27
12-06-2014, 07:09 AM
I will be ecstatic if Michigan gets any one of these names that have been tossed out by legit sources:
Jim Harbaugh
Sean Payton
Les Miles
Jim Mora Jr.
Dan Mullen
David Shaw
John Harbaugh
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Bracing for disappointment
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bdoughty
12-06-2014, 01:07 PM
If all the top teams win:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. FSU
5. Baylor
6. TCU
Really what I think happens.
TCU drops 3 spots with a win? TCU wins easily and they are in. This is what you want to happen as an Ohio St fan. I have no dogs in this hunt.
TCU goes up 55-3 as I am posting this. Baylor and Ohio St will be left out of the playoff unless Bama or FSU loses.
SmoothPancakes
12-06-2014, 03:19 PM
Yep. Unless Baylor beats Kansas State 100-0, TCU is a lock in my opinion. No way the committee just says "fuck you" to TCU after ranking them above Baylor and Ohio State every week.
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souljahbill
12-06-2014, 05:07 PM
Yep. Unless Baylor beats Kansas State 100-0, TCU is a lock in my opinion. No way the committee just says "fuck you" to TCU after ranking them above Baylor and Ohio State every week.
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Don't be surprised if it happens.
skipwondah33
12-06-2014, 05:24 PM
Not sure I see how Ohio State gets in
If that could potentially happen even with a TCU win...then why is TCU at 3? If they can get jumped by a team outside of the 4
And this could potentially happen if FSU wins and finishes undefeated or would they move up to 3.
Oregon won't get moved down, hell they may even put them to #1...better chance of that then moving down.
dhook27
12-06-2014, 06:21 PM
Oklahoma lost. TCUs resume just keeps getting worse.
SmoothPancakes
12-06-2014, 06:56 PM
:D Oklahoma lost, Oklahoma State won. TCU beat both of them (and smoked the hell out of Oklahoma State). It pretty much cancels out after as TCU is concerned.
And with Alabama beating Missouri, Ohio State's coffin is nearly entirely nailed. Ohio State's ONLY chance now is for Georgia Tech to knock off Florida State. Alabama is a lock. Oregon is a lock.
TCU is, in my opinion, a lock, because why the hell would the committee jump them two spots up to #3 last week, ahead of Florida State, only to say "fuck you" and dump them out of the top 4 entirely the next week after they did exactly what they had to do, bitch slap Iowa State 55-3?
The only remaining question is Florida State. If Florida State wins, they're in and your top 4 (in unknown order) are Alabama, Florida State, Oregon and TCU. If Florida State loses, either Ohio State or Baylor will slip in. Assuming Ohio State even beats Wisconsin, which is FAR from even being claimed as a sure thing. With Barrett out, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Wisconsin beat Ohio State by 2+ touchdowns.
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