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Love me some move from a insta Obama Call (The People's Republic of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations) to a insta Romney Call Texas
We own the House! (Reps may even GAIN seats). Yep all those "all you say is NO" cries from the commies really came back and hurt us.
Well if this holds to form we will have:
1. Stronger Conservative House
2. Slight Dem Majority Senate
3. Lame Duck Obama
Yep going to go over the cliff and into a recession with a debt debacle. Oh well we deserve the government we vote for.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 08:37 PM
romney beginning to pull away in florida. hopefully its a good sign
romney beginning to pull away in florida. hopefully its a good sign
From what I can tell Florida looks like it will be RAZOR thin margin for either side and could easily end in a recount. I'd need to check the counties remaining but I'm reading up and it looks like it will be VERY close in Florida but if Romney loses it is all but over.
If I am counting correctly Obama basically has 253 in the electoral college wrapped up (barring a shocker). So Romney is going to basically have to run the table (minus maybe 1 or 2 depending on the size) of the remaining swing states: Florida; Virginia; North Carolina; New Hampshire; Ohio; Colorado; Iowa.
Romney CANNOT win w/o Ohio and Florida. He loses either and he is done. VA/NC are also huge but he could lose one of those if he ran the table everywhere else.
Romney now MUST win Florida; Ohio; Virginia North Carolina AND EITHER CO or IA with NH out.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 09:05 PM
not lookin good.....
It ain't lookin' good fellow right wingers. It looks like our country has slowly changed and we are unfortunately (in our opinion) slowly but SURELY becoming Europe. If you want a glimpse of our 100% certain future just look at the MESS across the pond where countries cannot even afford drugs to treat their citizens for cancer.
If this holds..... we as conservatives have a number of options. My fellow right wingers at law school long feared the country was changing and that the country would move left due to "losers" wanting free stuff and the declining white majority (i.e. minorities having more kids than white people thus a demographic change). We concluded that when/if this occurred we had two options
#1 - moderate some issues to pander to minorities (immigration) or
#2 - stay a CONSERVATIVE party and "starve the beast" (government) and wait for it to implode (see Europe) and let the chips fall where they may in terms of those who choose to become dependent on government to live.
Any thoughts of what you would like to see in the future?
I have VERY strong feelings on this and IMHO #2 is a MUCH more attractive option as I would LOVE nothing more than to watch a government dependent society completely implode. It will certainly make for some good laughs when people WILL lose their food; shelter; etc.... when China stops giving us that cash $
JBHuskers
11-06-2012, 09:12 PM
:smh: :fp: :D :D :D
:smh: :fp: :D :D :D
It is what it is. This election was ALL about which "model" of turnout showed up at the polls. Unfortunately, the 2012 "America" is NOTHING like the "America" during the revival of the conservative movement.
Romney could still pull out a "miracle" but its unlikely.
I just cant wait for the day of reckoning that is INEVITABLE when this 2012 "America" implodes and the "losers" REALLY SUFFER. The "free stuff" mentality works for awhile but eventually you take away the incentive to succeed and you run out of "other people's money". Government dependcy (a.k.a. "Liberalism") has FAILED EVERYWHERE it has been tried (Cuba, Europe, USSR, etc...)
Rove (a pretty straight shooter and good at # crunching) thinks Romney still has a shot but IF he pulls it off it will be RAZOR thin. Needs an "inside straight" of (FL, NC, VA, OH + IA or CO).
Looks like it will be a LONG night either way but Obama definitely has an advantage.
LMAO John Boehner and Grover Norquist are 100% certain the House will NOT vote to increase any taxes. Obama 100% will not extend the current tax rates for the top bracket.
Can you say going over the cliff a 100% CERTAINTY?
America voted for it (whether they knew it or not is another issue)
"Interesting" side note from tonight is it appears that even more "blue dogs" are getting destroyed. KY lost a democrat in the house and some other blue dogs lost in NC as well. It appears that in 2012 Americans are "self selecting" where we live leading to an even more polarized government.
My wife and I CERTAINLY "self selected" getting the HELL out of Rhode Island for Texas. MD Anderson is one of if not THE best opportunities for my wife right now but she interviewed with prob 5 of the top 10 programs and we liked Texas because "the people are more like us" here than elsewhere.
In lawschool I knew liberals but now I am not "friends" with a single liberal here in Texas.
I don't see this trend changing any time soon. Liberals will want to go where they can live with other liberals and Conservatives want to go where they can live with other Conservatives.
Looks like FL is headed for a recount but Romney must still win NC, VA, OH and either IA or CO. It's going to be CLOSE but they basically ALL have to fall his way. It's like hitting a card on the river to give your opponent a "bad beat"
LMAO I didn't think it was possible but my wife is even MORE pissed than I am about the way things are going. "I didn't work this hard my ENTIRE LIFE to have the [CENSORED] government tell me whether I can or cannot help treat my patients!"
She left the living room and went to read some of her research and do some work because "I cannot watch this [censored] any more!"
Unscientific survey of women's cancer physicians unhappy with Obamacare and the rationing board that will deny your wife/mother/sister proper cancer treatment because their life "isn't worth it".
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:00 PM
Looks like FL is headed for a recount but Romney must still win NC, VA, OH and either IA or CO. It's going to be CLOSE but they basically ALL have to fall his way. It's like hitting a card on the river to give your opponent a "bad beat"
florida still has the heavy republican panhandle results to come in. nc was just called for romney. virgina is very close but romney has a lead. we're losing ohio slightly more and more with each update. dont care about the other states as it doesnt matter if we dont win ohio.
BIG win for Romney in NC. Still needs FL, VA, OH and either IA or CO FTW
florida still has the heavy republican panhandle results to come in. nc was just called for romney. virgina is very close but romney has a lead. we're losing ohio slightly more and more with each update. dont care about the other states as it doesnt matter if we dont win ohio.
Actually at this point
OH = VA = FL
Romney loses ANY of those and it is OVER. I don't think NV is in play.
Note to right wingers: Next time can we PLEASE make sure our senate candidates have clear and coherent gaffe free answers re: abortion. Those gaffes costs us 2 seats in the senate at a minimum this election over an issue that is going to require the unexpected death of a supreme court justice.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:03 PM
LOL. romney wins idaho with only 140 votes being reported so far.
Liberal Nate Silver reporting Romney running up BIG margins in SW Virginia (due to coal) and thus is doing much better in VA than McCain there + running better elsewhere in the state so VA may be heading to Romney soon...
IF this election comes down to FL we will NOT know the winner tonight.
And that is ALL she wrote Obama takes OH and America has voted for the status quo (GRIDLOCK)
Well time for right wingers to keep the HEAT on the House to NOT COMPROMISE ANY PRINCIPLES and let the chips fall where they may.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:17 PM
this is a fucking shame.
steelerfan
11-06-2012, 10:18 PM
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this is a fucking shame.
Yep. My wife is in TEARS. She LITERALLY FEARS her career is OVER before it really even started.
NO MORE MODERATES at the top of my ticket. I'm sick of nominating McCain, Romney, etc.... and losing. IF I'm going to lose damn it I wanna lose with someone who is a solid CONSERVATIVE.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:24 PM
all i can say is he's not my president.
all i can say is he's not my president.
Meh he is "my president" but I HATE "my president"
Rove saying OH called too early. Repeate of 2000?
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:28 PM
Meh he is "my president" but I HATE "my president"
i refuse to acknowledge that i'm being ruled by a fucking idiot. :smh:
i refuse to acknowledge that i'm being ruled by a fucking idiot. :smh:
Look we've been "ruled" by LOTS of "fucking idiots". Jimmy Carter, JFK, W, etc...
JBHuskers
11-06-2012, 10:29 PM
Rove saying OH called too early. Repeate of 2000?
So he's saying it's a 900 vote difference, but yet their graphic says 30k?
So he's saying it's a 900 vote difference, but yet their graphic says 30k?
According to him he's looking at the "official" OH secretary of state (or whatever official vote tally page). The networks are presumably behind that tally. Look Rove is not impartial but he's generally a straight shooter on an election night and told EVERYONE they were wrong to call FL for Gore the 1st time. Just sayin'
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:33 PM
Look we've been "ruled" by LOTS of "fucking idiots". Jimmy Carter, JFK, W, etc...
not me. i'm only 25. :D
not me. i'm only 25. :D
LMAO I'm only 32. So that basically means I vaguely remember Reagan where you dont. :nod:
skipwondah33
11-06-2012, 10:35 PM
Look we've been "ruled" by LOTS of "fucking idiots". Jimmy Carter, JFK, W, etc...
That I guess we can agree on
JBHuskers
11-06-2012, 10:36 PM
According to him he's looking at the "official" OH secretary of state (or whatever official vote tally page). The networks are presumably behind that tally. Look Rove is not impartial but he's generally a straight shooter on an election night and told EVERYONE they were wrong to call FL for Gore the 1st time. Just sayin'
Sounds like their "war room" stands by their Ohio score.
souljahbill
11-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Well time for right wingers to keep the HEAT on the House to NOT COMPROMISE ANY PRINCIPLES and let the chips fall where they may.
Sir, and I say this respectfully, THIS is what's killing the country. All the draw-a-line-in-the-sand, la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you-because-you're-not-red/blue-like-us is so.....unhealthy. The beauty of a 2 party system is that you can get both sides of an issue but if both sides can't compromise, we get the current crap of "I'm not doing shit for you "othersiders" so that when I run for office, I can say I the "othersiders" didn't do shit, vote for me and my friends." THAT is what's bringing us down. United we stand, divided we fall and we're so divided, we'll fall no matter who the president is.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:39 PM
Sounds like their "war room" stands by their Ohio score.
no, what rove is saying is that its stupid to call a state for someone when the vote total is less than 1000 votes. if something is that close with 75% of the votes being reported in, they shouldnt call the state until every vote has been cast, regardless if their initial thought was right or not.
Sounds like their "war room" stands by their Ohio score.
Yep look I'm no pro and Rove may be off. It wasn't looking good anyways in CO.
psusnoop
11-06-2012, 10:45 PM
Sir, and I say this respectfully, THIS is what's killing the country. All the draw-a-line-in-the-sand, la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you-because-you're-not-red/blue-like-us is so.....unhealthy. The beauty of a 2 party system is that you can get both sides of an issue but if both sides can't compromise, we get the current crap of "I'm not doing shit for you "othersiders" so that when I run for office, I can say I the "othersiders" didn't do shit, vote for me and my friends." THAT is what's bringing us down. United we stand, divided we fall and we're so divided, we'll fall no matter who the president is.
No matter the side this is exactly the issue within our country. Everyone fails to realize we are on the same team :smh:
And I mean this while staying neutral to either side.
JBHuskers
11-06-2012, 10:46 PM
This is the weirdest election ever. Normally when you look at the election map, it's full of red and blue states, but somehow Colorado's turned green.
skipwondah33
11-06-2012, 10:49 PM
No matter the side this is exactly the issue within our country. Everyone fails to realize we are on the same team :smh:
And I mean this while staying neutral to either side.
+ about a 1000
Sir, and I say this respectfully, THIS is what's killing the country. All the draw-a-line-in-the-sand, la-la-la-I-can't-hear-you-because-you're-not-red/blue-like-us is so.....unhealthy. The beauty of a 2 party system is that you can get both sides of an issue but if both sides can't compromise, we get the current crap of "I'm not doing shit for you "othersiders" so that when I run for office, I can say I the "othersiders" didn't do shit, vote for me and my friends." THAT is what's bringing us down. United we stand, divided we fall and we're so divided, we'll fall no matter who the president is.
I don't disagree with your conclusion that we are going to fall (i.e. we are in decline). However two points:
#1 The Liberals/Democrats are equally responsible for what you are complaining about me/conservatives doing. Conservatives just won an equal branch of government (The House)
#2 "In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current." - Thomas Jefferson
"Be sure you put your feet in the right place, and then stand firm." - Abraham Lincoln
We are talking about principles (i.e. Conservatives do NOT play Class Warfare and dabble with socialism/government dependency)
Quite simply the country is divided (i.e. there are Red States and there are Blue States) and as we continue to self-select where we live (as we should do) this nation will continue its decline into irrelevancy.
I have the ability as a private citizen to support the candidates that support my values. If a member of my party violates my principles I have the power to remove them by supporting a challenger.
If a Republican in the House/Senate from a Red State thinks they have ANY room to compromise on tax/spending issues with Obama's current position, they are mistaken and will be removed the next time they are up for election.
psusnoop
11-06-2012, 10:50 PM
Love listening to fox right now saying yep Obama may have won but it doesn't matter, republicans have the house maybe even stronger now so it doesn't matter nothing will happen because they won't cave on issues :fp:
This is the exact problem.
Because he has no mandate in this second term....... For fucks sake this is better then watching any show or movie.
People reporting that our country is going to shit because their guy isn't in office...news flash it wasn't going anywhere when your guy was there either.....and god forbid we try to strengthen our country, instead they'd rather sit in the middle of the living room and pout and kick and scream because their snack pack was 1 less their their brothers and since it was they aren't moving and they aren't going to stop crying.......wait this sounds like snack time at my house with my 6 and 4 year old:smh:
psusnoop
11-06-2012, 10:55 PM
I don't disagree with your conclusion that we are going to fall (i.e. we are in decline). However two points:
#1 The Liberals/Democrats are equally responsible for what you are complaining about me/conservatives doing. Conservatives just won an equal branch of government (The House)
#2 "In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current." - Thomas Jefferson
"Be sure you put your feet in the right place, and then stand firm." - Abraham Lincoln
We are talking about principles (i.e. Conservatives do NOT play Class Warfare and dabble with socialism/government dependency)
Quite simply the country is divided (i.e. there are Red States and there are Blue States) and as we continue to self-select where we live (as we should do) this nation will continue its decline into irrelevancy.
I have the ability as a private citizen to support the candidates that support my values. If a member of my party violates my principles I have the power to remove them by supporting a challenger.
If a Republican in the House/Senate from a Red State thinks they have ANY room to compromise on tax/spending issues with Obama's current position, they are mistaken and will be removed the next time they are up for election.
This is the problem, why does it have to be one side or another when working on core problems within "our" country?? This is my biggest issue.
Sure I may have voted Romney or maybe I voted Obama but that isn't important because I know that our government would rather act like children who feel entitled to everything and could care less about anything that doesn't have to do with them.
That my friend is what pisses me off about our country.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 10:58 PM
snoop, there are some things that each side simply will not compromise on. each side feels so strongly about certain items, that they'll oppose anything that isnt exactly what they want regarding that item. hell, we have that same exact issue when we do our community wishlist tournament. look at how important dreads and sock lengths are to some people vs the gameplay crowds.
This is the problem, why does it have to be one side or another when working on core problems within "our" country?? This is my biggest issue.
Sure I may have voted Romney or maybe I voted Obama but that isn't important because I know that our government would rather act like children who feel entitled to everything and could care less about anything that doesn't have to do with them.
That my friend is what pisses me off about our country.
B/c the "Core problems" in our country go to founding principles of Liberal/Conservative ideology. Conservatives believe in limited government and self reliance. Liberals believe people cannot do it on their own and must have government save them from themselves.
We are simply in a hyper partisan era as America goes into decline due to decisions that were made beginning 70+ years ago. It has happened in EVERY world power that went into decline. (Rome, Greece, England, etc...)
snoop, there are some things that each side simply will not compromise on. each side feels so strongly about certain items, that they'll oppose anything that isnt exactly what they want regarding that item. hell, we have that same exact issue when we do our community wishlist tournament. look at how important dreads and sock lengths are to some people vs the gameplay crowds.
Yep there are the liberal dreads/socks people and there are Conservative Gameplay people. Looks like the liberals are just winning at EVERYTHING. :smh:
LMAO I ALWAYS crack up when you see the red/blue by county map. The Blues would have a hard time gaining all that land if a Civil War ever breaks out. :nod:
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 11:04 PM
LMAO I ALWAYS crack up when you see the red/blue by county map. The Blues would have a hard time gaining all that land if a Civil War ever breaks out. :nod:
lol....conservatives own like 80% of the land in America....yet 50% of the population lives in the remaining 20% of the land.
psusnoop
11-06-2012, 11:04 PM
I'm a conservative and I understand what your saying but it still takes a little of both to make things work. Without some of both in place nothing works right which IMO is why this country is the best to live in, however I have seen so many instances over the last decade or more where neither side can stand to work with the other which divides things that much more.
Can it be fixed now?? That is debatable and I lean towards no. I mean we the public are served through media that you have to be one side or the other no matter the subject if its good but didnt come from your side then it's a no go and that shit has to stop.
lol....conservatives own like 80% of the land in America....yet 50% of the population lives in the remaining 20% of the land.
Well 50% if you count all those 150 year olds that voted today :nod:
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 11:09 PM
Well 50% if you count all those 150 year olds illegals that voted today :nod:
fixed
steelerfan
11-06-2012, 11:09 PM
My ex-wife is an RN. I hope her career goes down the toilet now. :nod:
She has alot of friends who are nurses that are Canadian. They live in the States because nurses can't make shit in Canada. I'm all for that happening here now. :D
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I'm a conservative and I understand what your saying but it still takes a little of both to make things work. Without some of both in place nothing works right which IMO is why this country is the best to live in, however I have seen so many instances over the last decade or more where neither side can stand to work with the other which divides things that much more.
Can it be fixed now?? That is debatable and I lean towards no. I mean we the public are served through media that you have to be one side or the other no matter the subject if its good but didnt come from your side then it's a no go and that shit has to stop.
Actually it doesn't. When Obama took over he had a majority in the house and a FILLIBUSTER PROOF Senate and the Presidency. Republicans/Conservatives could have gone to the beach on vacation and it wouldn't have changed anything.
Obama got EVERYTHING he wanted in the 1st 2 years. Stimulus 1, Stimulus 2, Auto Bailout, Obamacare and the economy still blows. He played with fire and got burned in 10 and so the People decided they want a divided government.
The people voted for it AGAIN tonight. They will/should get the SAME results from 12-14 as they got from 10-12.
Well now even OH wouldn't even matter with IA and CO gone.
JBHuskers
11-06-2012, 11:11 PM
Well 50% if you count all those 150 year olds that voted today :nod:
Then they went from the voting booth to handing out the ballots.
So... 2016. I'm thinking (in no particular order)
1. Paul Ryan
2. Marco Rubio
3. Rand Paul
4. Bobby Jindal
5. Nikki Haley
6. Scott Walker
7. Kelly Ayotte
8. Jim DeMint
Honestly, at this point I'm seriously think that it MAY be time to try and see how the "Paul wing" of the party can do at the top of the ticket. I dunno how many "Ron Paul" people stayed home or voted 3rd party tonight but I could live with that wing in the white house and certainly can do no worse than the McCain/Romney wing.
Looks like the auto bailout cost Romney OH which is funny b/c GM, Chrysler are going to need another bailout when we go into the Obama depression after we go over the cliff and debt crisis. :nod:
LMAO saving grace in 2016 is Joe Biden = top of Communist Ticket?
Interesting mixed bag on the pot *** marriage and obamacare issues down the ballot.
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 11:38 PM
i just changed my homepage from yahoo to google, just so i wouldnt see obama's ugly face whenever i pop open a new browser. :D
baseballplyrmvp
11-06-2012, 11:49 PM
the other party gives respect when they lose?
http://www.sectalk.com/board/public/imported_images/chan-lo.com/garycoleman-wtf.gif
I was joking on the earlier stormfront.org jab in regards to your earlier comments, now I am not so sure. To quote John Madden, "You got alot of class, too bad it is all third."
Obama wins, get over it and show the same amount of respect for the President as you would from Democrats had Romney won. I am outie 5000...
I'm giving O more respect than liberals gave W after he "stole" 2 elections. I concede he has won but I HATE him and will oppose EVERYTHING he stands for.
I'd also like to give a big F U to John Roberts at the SCOTUS playing too cute by 1/2 with Obamacare. Thanks to that Fer's switched vote my wife's career is in SERIOUS jeopardy.
And just when I thought I could NOT HATE that SON OF A BITCH anymore than I already did/do I listened to the acceptance speech.
The Conservatives in the House will NOT work with this man and if they do they will be removed. Prepare for a depression because its coming soon.
morsdraconis
11-07-2012, 05:09 AM
:smh:
I can't believe people in america think like you guys do. WTF is wrong with you people? You'd rather the country go into the tank than actually work on making the country better. And you call us communists...
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 06:18 AM
:smh:
I can't believe people in america think like you guys do. WTF is wrong with you people? You'd rather the country go into the tank than actually work on making the country better. And you call us communists...
:+1:
skipwondah33
11-07-2012, 08:09 AM
Yep there are the liberal dreads/socks people and there are Conservative Gameplay people. Looks like the liberals are just winning at EVERYTHING. :smh:I will always be in the Gameplay crowd regarding that.
But my political stance is similar. I agree with some things on the conservative side and liberal side, not just one sided on everything.
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 08:35 AM
I will always be in the Gameplay crowd regarding that.
But my political stance is similar. I agree with some things on the conservative side and liberal side, not just one sided on everything.
Exactly! There isn't one side to this, it is a combination of both.
Looks like the Obama depression fears is starting to hit the market down 1% already this morning :nod:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49725783
JBHuskers
11-07-2012, 08:51 AM
Looks like the Obama depression fears is starting to hit the market down 1% already this morning :nod:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49725783
Uhhhh read into it more. The drop us based on a European forecast.
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Uhhhh read into it more. The drop us based on a European forecast.
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Stocks Tumble 1% Amid 'Fiscal Cliff,' [AND] EU Fears ("triggered by worries over the looming "fiscal cliff" and as fears over Europe resurfaced.")
So... the stocks are tumbling due to Obama/American Liberal and European Socialist policies. :fp:
gschwendt
11-07-2012, 08:54 AM
FYI, now that the election is over both "propaganda" threads will be closed after midnight tonight. Use today to get it out of your system and move on.
FYI, now that the election is over both "propaganda" threads will be closed after midnight tonight. Use today to get it out of your system and move on.
I shall work on my closing speech then to be posted at 11:59 p.m. CST. Shame these threads have to go. :smh: worst day EVA!
skipwondah33
11-07-2012, 09:12 AM
FYI, now that the election is over both "propaganda" threads will be closed after midnight tonight. Use today to get it out of your system and move on.Woooooooo, I'm about to go full on rampage mode lol
baseballplyrmvp
11-07-2012, 09:28 AM
:smh:
I can't believe people in america think like you guys do. WTF is wrong with you people? You'd rather the country go into the tank than actually work on making the country better. And you call us communists...
if it takes the country tanking to make people realize what a terrible mistake they made in re-electing this loser, then i'm all for it.
skipwondah33
11-07-2012, 09:35 AM
I will say the comments on here are nothing in comparisons to what people are telling me that are on Facebook. (I don't have an account personally)
Funny thing is people think the world has changed :smh:
if it takes the country tanking to make people realize what a terrible mistake they made in re-electing this loser, then i'm all for it.
:+1: x :infinity:
Moreover, the quicker the depression that is INEVITABLE comes the less severe it will be (it will be severe all depressions are but there are depressions and there are DEPRESSIONS) and the quicker the recovery can be.
morsdraconis
11-07-2012, 09:41 AM
if it takes the country tanking to make people realize what a terrible mistake they made in re-electing this loser, then i'm all for it.
Maybe if you had a candidate that was actually genuine and not a batshit crazy flipflopping fool, you might have had a chance against one of the least liked Democratic presidents EVER (because he's black and America is racist as fuck - think I'm lying? I know for a fact that WV didn't vote for him because he's black because we sure don't have a problem with voting for Democrat governors, mayors, and senate members).
America is a racist piece of shit and you still couldn't beat a black man. Get over yourself and actually do something to FIX this fuckin' country because, if you don't, there won't be an America soon.
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 09:42 AM
THANK YOU G!
morsdraconis
11-07-2012, 09:43 AM
:+1: x :infinity:
Moreover, the quicker the depression that is INEVITABLE comes the less severe it will be (it will be severe all depressions are but there are depressions and there are DEPRESSIONS) and the quicker the recovery can be.
Funny how a depression is inevitable yet the country continues to grow jobs and make money. :fp:
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 09:44 AM
MORS posted so I fixed mine. Nevermind here.
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 09:45 AM
Funny how a depression is inevitable yet the country continues to grow jobs and make money. :fp:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49722858
baseballplyrmvp
11-07-2012, 09:53 AM
Funny how a depression is inevitable yet the country continues to grow jobs and make money. :fp:
the average salary for families is like $3000 lower than what it was 4 years ago, from like $53k a year to now $50k. its all but certain that it'll continue to drop. unemployment is still incredibly high. you can create millions of jobs, but if you create no incentive for people to go out and get a job, then it doesnt make a difference. ultimately, people are lazy and will always look for the easy way out. if they can continue to mooch off of others, using minimal effort, they will.
LMAO I'm not surprised you people cannot grasp the INEVITABLE depression that is coming due to the MASSIVE debt that the government and many of our people will NEVER be able to pay off.
Basically we are Greece/Europe but X years (X is an unknown variable of how long the debt crisis will come but it is going to come but it will come within everyone here's lifetime) out from where they are now.
Greece/Europe runs a "socialist"/liberal utopia where the vast majority are totally dependent on the government to live and the government has long taken money from its productive citizens and given it to the losers in the country for votes. They ran massive deficits for YEARS and now the bill is due and they cannot pay it.
Greece can no longer purchase life saving drugs for cancer treatment much less continue the entitlement state and the people are rioting in the streets when the cuts that MUST happen come.
There are 3 options with a potential debt crisis:
#1 Hyper-inflate your way out of the debt (i.e. make the $ worthless and pay the debt off with shitty $)
#2 Default on the payments and thus lose all access to credit from the market
#3 Grow the economy and let the private sector create wealth for the country and thus increase revenues for the government that can be used to pay off the debt
The Democratic party/liberals have taken #3 off of the table so option 1 and option 2 both lead to the same thing a financial collapse and a depression that will take years if not decades to get out of.
Yes stocks are likely to benefit SHORT TERM from the stupid monetary easing of the Obama administration. If you are artificially keeping the price of bonds down to below inflation people must invest in riskier investments (i.e. stocks) in order to protect their capital from losing value to inflation.
However, the debt bill will come due its ONLY a question of WHEN.
Greece has 120% debt to GDP in 2010.
The United States Government currently has a 101% debt to GDP.
Obama's OWN #s indicate the $1,000,000,000,000+ yearly deficits will continue and we will have a $20,000,000,000,000 national debt by 2016.
EVENTUALLY the market will REFUSE to lend American any more money and all the "free stuff" will go away and the economy will collapse.
LMAO down 2% now. Mmmh Mmmh Mmmh Barrack Hussein Obama! :nod:
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 10:19 AM
LMAO down 2% now. Mmmh Mmmh Mmmh Barrack Hussein Obama! :nod:
I'll be honest, I've never once cheered for my friends to lose money. Your constant laughing though has me slightly wrapped tight right now and I'm going to just ignore this post.
Tommy feel free to lock this down at any point. It's clear where CLW stands and where the rest of us stand. Points have been made, some good some bad and it's clear there is no winner in a thread like this.
JBHuskers
11-07-2012, 10:22 AM
And this will not bleed into the Anything Thread or anything else.
Gas prices always go up and stock prices always go down after the election, it would have been the same if Romney was elected.
I'll be honest, I've never once cheered for friends for losing money. Your constant laughing though has me slightly wrapped tight right now and I'm going to just ignore this post.
Tommy feel free to lock this down at any point. It's clear where CLW stands and where the rest of us stand. Points have been made, some good some bad and it's clear there is no winner in a thread like this.
So you are "ignoring" the post by quoting it and posting? :confused:
I haven't checked but I'd be SHOCKED if I weren't losing 2%+ of my retirement savings today. It's funny to me b/c the ultimate result is so....... obvious to anyone who reads and thinks but most Americans are busy right now watching The Jersey Shore; Toddlers and Tiaras; Real Housewives; etc...
The vast majority will be STUNNED when this happens but if they had read/watched and learned they could have prepared themselves to absorb the blow as much as possible.
psusnoop
11-07-2012, 10:27 AM
So you are "ignoring" the post by quoting it and posting? :confused:
I haven't checked but I'd be SHOCKED if I weren't losing 2%+ of my retirement savings today. It's funny to me b/c the ultimate result is so....... obvious to anyone who reads and thinks but most Americans are busy right now watching The Jersey Shore; Toddlers and Tiaras; Real Housewives; etc...
The vast majority will be STUNNED when this happens but if they had read/watched and learned they could have prepared themselves to absorb the blow as much as possible.
Sorry meant Thread not post, but since you referenced me with a question I will respond.
Executive decision: Thread closed.
JBHuskers
11-07-2012, 10:42 AM
Beat me to it :nod: don't bring this talk to other threads. It's done and over with, find a propaganda message board for future posts.
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