Powerhouse OD - General Discussion Thread

[psuexv]

Hey what's up fellas. Looks like your still going for '13 and I'm not sure if you have openings but my internet is still inconsistent and I will probably just be a fan this year.

What's up ID? I think we are actually full at the moment. Are you still getting the game this year?

[ryby6969]

Hey OB, what game speed and whatnot are you looking at going with? I do not want to get used to playing on something if it is not what we will be using.

[Oneback]

Right now the plan is to go with AA - I'm contemplating Heisman but with the number of user vs user games we'll be playing and the fact all of those will be on AA I'm inclined to stick with AA. As for game speed, I haven't really gotten a chance to play with sliders yet, I've got the next 8 days off from work to figure all of that out however.

[gschwendt]

Right now the plan is to go with AA - I'm contemplating Heisman but with the number of user vs user games we'll be playing and the fact all of those will be on AA I'm inclined to stick with AA. As for game speed, I haven't really gotten a chance to play with sliders yet, I've got the next 8 days off from work to figure all of that out however.

Actually if you set the OD to Heisman, user vs user games should also play on Heisman.

[psusnoop]

Actually if you set the OD to Heisman, user vs user games should also play on Heisman.

That's how I have thought it worked.

And given the couple of user games on Heisman that G and I ran last night I really think this may be our best option heading forward.

[nykia31]

After playing an Auburn cheeser online, I don't feel like the gameplan settings are overpowered this year. It was obvious at around midway through the 2nd quarter he turned strip ball to agressive. And to my surprise it was not a guaranteed fumble every play. I actually saw Fitzgerald Toussaint break about 5 tackles in one play for about a 20 yard run, because his players kept trying to strip the ball instead of make the tackle. And it was progressively throughout the run that he broke the tackles. I feel like this game actually plays more like football than '12 as long as you're not playing against someone who tries to throw deep every single play.

This is good to hear. Pass Commit may actually be needed this year, based on some of them coverage gaffs I have been hearing about. I wont have the game until tomorrow. Im not a fan of impressions threads since for every post you read about complaints, you get another one praising..so I guess I'll need to see for myself. :nod:

[JeffHCross]

Obviously I am going to get killed in season 1 in that case. If it makes you feel any better, if anyone is behind the 8-ball, it's me. I haven't played a meaningful game since April 2011.

[JeffHCross]

Or at least since before NCAA 12 released.

[Papa LoneStar]

I finally got a taste of the demo....loving it

[Escobar]

I used these Heisman sliders from OS early this morning to see how a game would go. http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/559217-hartstoppers-ncaa-13-heisman-sliders.html It played extremely well and realistic. I did not once feel like I got "cheated" by the game or saw any kind of speed cheat. I played Michigan vs. Alabama first game of a dynasty to test these sliders and ended up winning 17-13 I want to say. Season pass has expired and I haven't checked to see if my disc has arrived from Amazon. Once I do I will post stats.

[ryby6969]

If anyone wants to play a game with our teams, hit me up.

[Kingpin32]

I'll be down to play a few games later tonight.

[ryby6969]

Tomorrow night I could go later, unfortunately I work at 5am tomorrow so I will be going to bed in a few hours.

[Oneback]

I'm good to play whenever. Just let me know, I'm on PSN right now.

[ryby6969]

I'm good to play whenever. Just let me know, I'm on PSN right now.

I will be on late tomorrow night if anyone wants a game. About to go to bed because 4am comes early. :(

[Kingpin32]

It's been so long since I actually played a competitive game.

[Escobar]

I tried to play about about 7 online games and got dc glitched 3 of them, had my dsl cutout because of phone calls in 2 games (this just recently became a huge problem), and had two guys quit on me when playing unranked games because I stopped their 4 rotating plays that they ran...I even got dc glitched in an unranked game :fp:

[ryby6969]

If anyone is up for a game to try out our teams I am on.

[psuexv]

OB - when are we getting started?

[Oneback]

Now that rosters are done, I'm going to try and get the OD up today so everyone can at least get in and start pre-season activities. I'm looking to start week one Saturday - that sound good to everyone?

[psuexv]

Sounds good to me.

[razorback44]

Works for me.

[gschwendt]

I'll be going out of town tonight and won't be back until Sunday evening. I should be able to do preseason from the web tomorrow during the day, otherwise I'm good.

[psusnoop]

Good here.

Sliders and stuff, we have determined what we were going to use?

[ryby6969]

:nod:

Also, would like to know what snoop asked plus the other things like gameplanning, talking people into staying and whatnot.

[Oneback]

I'm working on sliders today, that's what may cause the delay in getting the OD up by tonight. As for game planning I'm torn on since its hard to administer.

[Kingpin32]

Saturday is good for me too.

[psusnoop]

I'm working on sliders today, that's what may cause the delay in getting the OD up by tonight. As for game planning I'm torn on since its hard to administer.

Heisman or AA?

Also for game planning, I don't know what to think about it. I will side with the majority. I have typically stayed clear of even pass commit last year and the start of this years game but the last 2 games I have pass committed when I felt a pass play was called and I felt like my defense played much more aggressive on the ball. Not sure if that is or isn't something we want in this OD but that is my 2 cents....ok 1.5 cents :D

[JeffHCross]

OB, you should be able to start the OD and just make sure you change sliders by Week 1.

[psuexv]

Personally I don't care on the gameplanning stuff. I don't think many of us actually abuse the bad ones. At least from the past 3 years worth of user games I haven't noticed it

[psusnoop]

Personally I don't care on the gameplanning stuff. I don't think many of us actually abuse the bad ones. At least from the past 3 years worth of user games I haven't noticed it

Agreed, it's not something that we should have to worry about with this group.

There are instances to use or not use most of the game planning stuff.

[Escobar]

From what I've seen playing randoms online and one friend who always has strip ball on aggressive...gameplanning seems to not be a problem this year. People are penalized for having strip ball on aggressive or big hits on aggressive. I have seen RB's break more tackles as a result of defenders always going for the big hit or strip. Also it's no longer a guaranteed strip for the defense. There is a greater risk to using these than last year, so I'm for allowing them. Take that risk if you want to, especially if your players can't play that style.

[JeffHCross]

Based on Escobar's experience, JTS might be the only significant concern.

[gschwendt]

I still don't like conservative ball carry... I haven't tested it but I know in the past it pretty much eliminated you fumbling at all. To me, if you're in a situation that you're worried about fumbling, you should put your best ball-carrier in.

[razorback44]

I still don't like conservative ball carry... I haven't tested it but I know in the past it pretty much eliminated you fumbling at all. To me, if you're in a situation that you're worried about fumbling, you should put your best ball-carrier in.

Yeah without the defense having aggressive strip turned on there is basically no way you will fumble the ball with carry set to conservative. Even then it only happens once in a blue moon and they actively have to be trying to user strip as well.

[ryby6969]

I still don't like conservative ball carry... I haven't tested it but I know in the past it pretty much eliminated you fumbling at all. To me, if you're in a situation that you're worried about fumbling, you should put your best ball-carrier in.
I agree with this and also would like to know how turning "pass defense" to aggressive effects how DB's play. I would like to know if they go "superhuman" when it is.

[Oneback]

So my suggestion is to leave the off and def adjustments on default unless you are trying to run down the clock\make a comeback.

[ryby6969]

BTW, what game speed are we looking at using?

[Oneback]

I just played a game with the sliders Escobar posted a page or so back and they weren't bad:

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/559217-hartstoppers-ncaa-13-heisman-sliders.html

[Kingpin32]

I just played a game with the sliders Escobar posted a page or so back and they weren't bad:

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/559217-hartstoppers-ncaa-13-heisman-sliders.html
I've played a few games with those sliders too. Haven't had any complaints with them.

[ryby6969]

The only issue I have with them is WR's drop the ball quite a bit as it is, and in the first qtr with these I have had 3 dropped passes already.

[Escobar]

I forgot to say I use these, but I play 7 min quarters w/ the Game Speed on Normal.

The only issue I have with them is WR's drop the ball quite a bit as it is, and in the first qtr with these I have had 3 dropped passes already.
Ratings matter more, also it will kind of even out towards the end of the game.

[JeffHCross]

Right now the plan is to go with AA - I'm contemplating Heisman but with the number of user vs user games we'll be playing and the fact all of those will be on AA I'm inclined to stick with AA. As for game speed, I haven't really gotten a chance to play with sliders yet, I've got the next 8 days off from work to figure all of that out however.

Actually if you set the OD to Heisman, user vs user games should also play on Heisman.

That's how I have thought it worked.

And given the couple of user games on Heisman that G and I ran last night I really think this may be our best option heading forward.In years past, the issue wasn't that user games were played on All-American, but that they were played with default slider settings. The sliders had no impact whatsoever on user/user games. If that still rings true this year (and I have no reason to doubt it right now), then the question really becomes which is better for User/User games ... default AA or default Heisman? Because with either one, we can probably find a slider set that would work for CPU games.

[JeffHCross]

I just played a game with the sliders Escobar posted a page or so back and they weren't bad:

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/ncaa-football-sliders/559217-hartstoppers-ncaa-13-heisman-sliders.html

I've played a few games with those sliders too. Haven't had any complaints with them.
Looks like Dr. Death has tweaked those sliders here: http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5387-Dr-Death-s-Heisman-Sliders&p=151575#post151575

[ryby6969]

I forgot to say I use these, but I play 7 min quarters w/ the Game Speed on Normal.

Ratings matter more, also it will kind of even out towards the end of the game.

Well, McCarron has completely airmailed 4 straight passes with guys wide open. My son was sitting watching and asked who I was throwing to. :D Ball went 15 yards across the field and the very next play had a guy past the defense by 10 yards and he threw it 10 yards through the endzone. :D Don't even get me started on the run blocking for the power run game. :fp:

[Oneback]

The OD is up, I am about to send everyone a text with the password - if you do not get a text from me in the next 30 min, please PM me your cell number and I'll text you.

[JeffHCross]

Herschel Walker vs FCS SE
Att: 41
Yards: 799
Rushing TDs: 14
Receptions: 1
Yards: 59
Receiving TDs: 1
Additional yardage: 7 punt returns, 168 yards, 1 TD

Final Score: 105-7

Georgia QB #11 only attempted 3 passes. 1 went to Herschel, 1 went to another player, and 1 hit the ground, intended for Herschel.

I'm posting this here to not sully the primary Impressions thread with these laughable stats.

[ryby6969]

We should have an AIM blast chat set up for Powerhouse. It is much quicker than posting in here! :D

[nykia31]

hehehe,,,herschel aint fooling around

[JeffHCross]

For anybody that hasn't seen PeteyKirch's Dynasty Bugs thread:

During Off-Season recruiting, Playing Time and Proximity to Home is bugged.

Proximity to Home is set to A+ and it doesn't matter where the school is in relation to the recruit.

Playing time is correctly shown during phone calls, but when you set up an in home visit it's set to D+

[JeffHCross]

Seems that some are using the existing coaches while others have created their coaches ........

[Escobar]

I also created a coach.

[Papa LoneStar]

I think we should vote for existing or created coaches. I vote for creating....we should earn our rating.

[Oneback]

I think we should vote for existing or created coaches. I vote for creating....we should earn our rating.

Well since it looks as though we are restarting yet again, let's vote!

[psuexv]

Well since it looks as though we are restarting yet again, let's vote!

I vote for create.

[psusnoop]

I vote for create.

Create

[nykia31]

Create

[nykia31]

Oneback, should I just ignore the current dynasty invite?

[nykia31]

From what I've seen playing randoms online and one friend who always has strip ball on aggressive...gameplanning seems to not be a problem this year. People are penalized for having strip ball on aggressive or big hits on aggressive. I have seen RB's break more tackles as a result of defenders always going for the big hit or strip. Also it's no longer a guaranteed strip for the defense. There is a greater risk to using these than last year, so I'm for allowing them. Take that risk if you want to, especially if your players can't play that style.


I played a head to ehad game with a guy on my friends list..jump the snap seems toned down a bit as well. They dont jump the snap on every play, but it seems totally random.

For example, on 3rd and long when you want them to jump the snap, they wont. but then on your next 1st and ten, the will lol. Plus varying your snap count helps to counter it from triggering as much. My only problem is that there isnt too much off a offsides penalty risk. I drew the guy who I was playing, offsides, once, and he didnt didnt draw me offsides at all.

[razorback44]

Create

[texacotea]

exsiting

[ryby6969]

Create I guess.

[Kingpin32]

I wouldn't mind creating.

[razorback44]

OB I sent you a text message as well but I just wanted to let you know that it looks like I didn't receive an invite. My psn is lazydayz44 in case you didn't have it.

[psusnoop]

OB I sent you a text message as well but I just wanted to let you know that it looks like I didn't receive an invite. My psn is lazydayz44 in case you didn't have it.

I didn't have one last night but u can search it probably powerhouseod1 or 2.

[Kingpin32]

Well it froze up again this morning right?

[ryby6969]

Yeah, I got a text saying he had to restart it and that we would hold off until we knew what was going on.

[JeffHCross]

:+1: for Create


OB I sent you a text message as well but I just wanted to let you know that it looks like I didn't receive an invite. My psn is lazydayz44 in case you didn't have it.I don't think anyone received an invite last night. He presumed people would be able to find it via search. I had to ask for an invite because I had no clue what to search for :D

[Oneback]

Sorry about the confusion - I'm half temped to just have everyone recruit/scout from the internet then we can play our games and do everything else on the console. I'm just afraid it's going to continue to lock up on us. What are your thoughts?

[psusnoop]

I'm not sure, I'm willing to try anything from another normal attempt to scouting/recruiting from the web. Some people have in years past had issues with the web (its been good for me except for the promises).

[Oneback]

Completely understand, that's why I didn't automatically throw that option out there.

[gschwendt]

The web has been good for me this year. They have fixed the promises bug so that's not a worry. I'd vote for web everything but games.

[JeffHCross]

By NO MEANS would I want you guys to make a decision totally based on my biased opinion, but if our only option for a stable experience is to use the web for everything but playing games, I would be more likely to bow out than continue forward.

I can completely understand why that's being discussed, and my objection is more to the situation itself than to the potential solution. I'd rather not play an OD, if it's that unstable, than to trust the (historically unstable itself) web-based solution. But that's partly due to the amount of stuff I like to do within the dynasty, and I would hate to be constantly on guard for freezes if it's truly that unstable.

[Oneback]

As far as everything you do in the dynasty, I don't think any of that will change. The only time I've seen a freeze thus far is in recruiting/scouting - these are the only items we'd be using the web for and they just upgraded the web service.

On a brighter note, Escobar and I just played a game online using Heisman, it was quite enjoyable...I'm a strong Heisman lean right now, just need to nail down the sliders for CPU games.

[razorback44]

You can't do offseason on the web though right?

[Escobar]

Create

[Escobar]

You can't do offseason on the web though right?

They changed it, so you can do everything including play the game (via supersim) from the web. So you won't have to get on your disc at all. Don't know who would do that tho :dunno:

[psusnoop]

Is this issue that wide spread that we think it's going to be a fail on the console?

[gschwendt]

Is this issue that wide spread that we think it's going to be a fail on the console?

It's bad enough that both of you had issues on separate ODs... I'd say until they find the cause and potentially patch it, we run the risk of it happening.

[Kingpin32]

So does it only happen on consoles?

[gschwendt]

So does it only happen on consoles?
Theoretically... It's a freeze in the code of the game so I wouldn't think it would happen on the web.

[Oneback]

So I've got to run to the store real quick but when I get back I'm going to put the OD back up, for the time being lets plan on recruiting/scouting on the web until we hear something further about the freeze issues on the console. I know g did a full season of recruiting on the web prior to release and had zero problems. Basically I just want to get this started.

Also, we are going to roll with Heisman sliders, I'm leaning towards using the game play slider edits by Dr Death (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5387-Dr-Death-s-Heisman-Sliders&p=151725#post151725) and recruiting will be set to All-American. We are also going to create our own coaches. The only item still up for debate is if we are going to use coach adjustments in game so please give me your thoughts.

[Kingpin32]

I'll have to join the dynasty when I get home. I thought I would be able to join online.

[JeffHCross]

It's bad enough that both of you had issues on separate ODs... I'd say until they find the cause and potentially patch it, we run the risk of it happening.FWIW, I didn't have any issues last night. I did notice it start to slow down at some point so I backed out, uploaded my changes at the time, and proceeded forward without a problem.

If anyone's really worried about it, you could just upload your changes between guys. I discovered last night that it looks like you can upload by simply going to the "Recruit Plan" screen (where you set CPU assistance) and then backing out of it. Don't need to change anything. It looked like it was uploading.

[nykia31]

Sounds good

[Papa LoneStar]

Working in a test offline OD recruiting/scouting with LSU....got to week 6 yesterday....LOVE the scouting feature....I like how I can use the scouting to figure out who to recruit for 1-2 spots out of 4-5 prospects.

[ryby6969]

Looks like LSU, Texas, and Bama are going to have some SERIOUS recruiting battles this year! ;)

[JeffHCross]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I suck.

[texacotea]

For the ones who dont know I had to change my PS3 persona when I got my PS3 back its is now texaco_tea

[psusnoop]

Cool about the web, I have recruiting many seasons on the web prior to this version so I like the idea.

Coaching gameplans I dont mind them one bit.

[Papa LoneStar]

Yea....I just did my scouting on the web....easy to organize

[Papa LoneStar]

10 minutes a quarter?

[Escobar]

You think we could do 9?

[Oneback]

Yeah sorry - I was blindly editing the sliders when I was inputting them earlier, we'll be doing 8 min quarters.

[Papa LoneStar]

*wipes forehead* good stuff....lol

[JeffHCross]

OB, what rosters did you use? I noticed a position change on FSU between this OD and a test one I setup last night using TGT's (BigWY's) rosters.

[Oneback]

OB, what rosters did you use? I noticed a position change on FSU between this OD and a test one I setup last night using TGT's (BigWY's) rosters.

I used a set that Escobar pointed me to, which had position changes and a few minor edits.

[Oneback]

OB, what rosters did you use? I noticed a position change on FSU between this OD and a test one I setup last night using TGT's (BigWY's) rosters.

I used a set that Escobar pointed me to, which had position changes and a few minor edits.

[JeffHCross]

Ah, that explains it. I've noticed a couple rating and position changes, compared to the defaults.

[razorback44]

So do I have to do my preseason stuff on the web or can I try it on the console first?

[Kingpin32]

I'm loving the recruiting on the web.

[nykia31]

I'll joing this morning..hoorah!

So have we reached a consensus on creating coaches?

[nykia31]

duplicate post

[Oneback]

I'll joing this morning..hoorah!

So have we reached a consensus on creating coaches?

Yeah, we're going to be creating coaches.

[Oneback]

So do I have to do my preseason stuff on the web or can I try it on the console first?

You're free to try on the console, however it will be at your own risk as its been freezing which results in a loss of your scouting time.

[Papa LoneStar]

Yea....3 hours is okay to waste....but 20....naaaah

[ryby6969]

If anyone wants a scrimmage, hit me up.

[nykia31]

Looks like I got Ohio State.

Nice way to eaaaaase into the season :D

[psusnoop]

Looks like I got Ohio State.

Nice way to eaaaaase into the season :D

Check out Thread Season 1 week 1, Tex posted a message about available times for your user game.

GL to you both in this opener :D

[texacotea]

yea def wasnt expecting a user game to start the year.

[nykia31]

By the way, have we established any ground rules for game plan features?

The more I play, the more i'm seeing that pass commit may not be the circus it used to be.

In fact, it looks like your only shot for getting anything out of your 4 man passrush, at all.

[psusnoop]

By the way, have we established any ground rules for game plan features?

The more I play, the more i'm seeing that pass commit may not be the circus it used to be.

In fact, it looks like your only shot for getting anything out of your 4 man passrush, at all.

I don't mind pass commit on passing downs or when your opponent is predicable. Just not every down.

[gschwendt]

Can we get less sticky threads? Call me picky but I hate opening the section and having to scroll down to find the Week 1 thread...

[texacotea]

Can we get less sticky threads? Call me picky but I hate opening the section and having to scroll down to find the Week 1 thread...

+50 on this. I forget there is other stuff down there.

[psusnoop]

+50 on this. I forget there is other stuff down there.


Yeah I wouldn't mind some of those sticky's that we don't use anymore removed to clean things up.

Maybe we could get into game planning and scouting reports of other users as well.

[Oneback]

Sticky's removed, let me know if you're wanting anything.

[Escobar]

I'm for using gameplan and pass commit. Just don't pass commit every down.

[razorback44]

By the way, have we established any ground rules for game plan features?

The more I play, the more i'm seeing that pass commit may not be the circus it used to be.

In fact, it looks like your only shot for getting anything out of your 4 man passrush, at all.

I prefer them all being banned but that's just me.

[nykia31]

I don't mind pass commit on passing downs or when your opponent is predicable. Just not every down.


Right

[psusnoop]

I prefer them all being banned but that's just me.

I'm only saying pass commit, I do not like run commit one bit.

[JeffHCross]

I don't mind run commit as I only have a 1/3 chance of getting the direction right. If you tip your hand, that's on you :D

That said, I wouldn't mind it disappearing.

[Escobar]

Oneback, did you notice anything from our game regarding my gameplan settings?

[JeffHCross]

I turned on "Conservative" Pass Defense (knockdowns) for the last drive against the CPU, and to say I noticed a difference would be an understatement. All four passes were batted down, when I hadn't had very many other swats all game (except for a couple manual swats).

[Oneback]

Oneback, did you notice anything from our game regarding my gameplan settings?

Near the end of the game I remember thinking you had run blocking on aggressive, other than that no.

[ryby6969]

I went and deleted my playbook and created a completely new one. See how my offense performs with this new book.

[psusnoop]

I went and deleted my playbook and created a completely new one. See how my offense performs with this new book.

I've got one started with a mix of middle Tennessee state and Oregon. It's not bad but far from finished. Hoping to have them done soon. I'm tweaking my defensive playbook but only pulling some plays and adding a few others from certain packages.

[ryby6969]

I made one based on USC and only changed a few things. Will see how that works. I actually really like the one I have for UAB, might run that next season with Bama depending on what kind of recruits I can bring in. :D

[JeffHCross]

Created an Air Raid playbook based on my favorite plays from NCAA '11 Arizona, Arizona State (or at least their old playbook), and MTSU. Disaster.
Created a Pistol playbook based on my Air Raid and One Back plays, but from the Pistol set. Disaster.
Tried to run Run n Shoot. Disaster.
I-Form is great until the FB decides to take a dump in the hole (http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/126051905) on a 4th down.

At this point I'm not sure WHAT I'm going to run. But clearly I need to change.

[Papa LoneStar]

Is anybody having trouble practicing with their created playbook inside the OD's practice mode? It loads my playbook before "loading" into practice mode, but it ends up making my practice with the Boise State playbook (my default).

[Oneback]

I'm having the same problem.

[Escobar]

Near the end of the game I remember thinking you had run blocking on aggressive, other than that no.

Blocking are the settings that I never change. Idk if it's my style of offense, but I get my share of holding/clipping penalties called already...been that way for years w/ NCAA. The majority of my changes were on defense.

[razorback44]

Is anybody having trouble practicing with their created playbook inside the OD's practice mode? It loads my playbook before "loading" into practice mode, but it ends up making my practice with the Boise State playbook (my default).

I could never use my created playbook in the OD practice mode on '12 either. It would automatically load the team I was using like you are saying.

[Oneback]

Hey for all of you that have QB's with accuracy < or = 85 please post up your completion percentage. I want to make sure these sliders aren't killing dual threat QBs.

[JeffHCross]

EJ's THA is 86. While I don't know his number, it has felt pretty good for which routes I was throwing to.

EDIT: He's at 60%. 23 incompletions, with 6 of those being drops.

[gschwendt]

Do sliders effect UvU games this year?
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5466-Do-Online-Dynasty-sliders-effect-User-vs-User-games

[nykia31]

Notre Dame-Ohio State



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsC1IoQvgkQ&feature=youtu.be

[nykia31]

Dupe

[JeffHCross]

Nykia, I love the commentary. :D :D :D

EDIT: Wow, did Ohio State get screwed over on these rosters by removing Storm Klein from MLB. I expect he'll be back at some point, and that really hurts the LB corps in the game.

[Papa LoneStar]

Nykia, I love the commentary. :D :D :D

+1

[JeffHCross]

I wouldn't mind seeing a slight + bump to HUM Tackling and HUM Break Block, plus a slight - drop to CPU Break Block. Seems to me like the CPU has a much easier time getting off blocks, especially outside blocks, while the User defenders can't disengage worth anything.

I agree that the Accuracy is ... interesting. I just had yet another game where my accuracy fluctuated wildly, including misses on 10 yard patterns and deep passes. For much of my game against Georgia, it felt distinctly like that horrible game I had against Ohio to start the season. I feel like there's some version of Dynamic Player Performance (or at least random dice rolls that influence ratings) going on in the background, and we don't know it. That's the only explanation I have for the wildly different experiences I've had.

[souljahbill]

Notre Dame-Ohio State



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsC1IoQvgkQ&feature=youtu.be

That was a good game, fellas.

[Escobar]

Since Jameil Showers has been out since the 1st quarter of the 1st game, I'll post my backups ratings and stats (he's played surprisingly well).
Matt Joeckel
OVR: 75
THP: 78
THA: 76
24/37 536yds 6TD 1INT
65% completion rate

[nykia31]

That was a good game, fellas.


I drank a tall glass of water, after this one.

For the record, I HATE pass commit, but I just dont see any way to get your good passrushing defensive linemen active, without usering. You cant always send 6 dudes, when you want to generate pressure.

I have ends with nice passrush moves.

When I go dime and have Prince Shembo with his hand in the dirt, and move Kapron Lewis Moore inside like the Giants do with Tuck, I have guys with 85, 87, 84, 87 passrush moves.

At least 1 or 2 of them, usually have a matchup advantage, or are even; yet I consistenly see them do nothing when left alone.

They play the run well, but passrush? PSH.

[JeffHCross]

Even usering them doesn't get it done, nykia. I think we may be suffering because of the way our sliders work out in USER/USER matchups. When I'm playing the CPU, I can get a rush with our sliders (albeit still not that good of one), but I got nothing in USER/USER.

[nykia31]

Even usering them doesn't get it done, nykia. I think we may be suffering because of the way our sliders work out in USER/USER matchups. When I'm playing the CPU, I can get a rush with our sliders (albeit still not that good of one), but I got nothing in USER/USER.

Ahhh...i forgot about the user vs user factor.

heck even on AA in online ranked world, its still really difficult.

[Escobar]

When I played SMU I had 0 pass rush. I felt like I got "gamed" that game. Garrett Gilbert constantly had 8-10 seconds to throw even when I blitzed, so he could wait til one of his receivers ran around made a cut back to the ball 20 yds downfield and chunk it. Then there is nothing you can do to get swat to work when the ball is in the air...easy touchdowns for them. It was alot worse than it looks, and for some reason my backup QB plays like Peyton Manning compared to Showers who got hit once and was completely off on his throws. Then gets hurt the one play in the second half that I let him play after benching him.

[gschwendt]

Online Dynasty sliders DO effect User vs User games (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5466-Online-Dynasty-sliders-DO-effect-User-vs-User-games)

[JeffHCross]

Setting the Pass Rush slider to 100 and the Pass Block slider to 0 generates a pass rush :D

But seriously, even then, you could get the pass off with the right read. I'm now seeing why it's "impossible" to get a pass rush on default settings -- there are limitations in the engine that are influencing things.

[Oneback]

Online Dynasty sliders DO effect User vs User games (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5466-Online-Dynasty-sliders-DO-effect-User-vs-User-games)

I'm working on a set of sliders that will be good for user vs user games and user vs cpu. I think I've gotten the pass rush and kicking game where I want it. Everything else is still in the works.

[JeffHCross]

OB, out of curiosity, how are you testing the User/User side? Me and G were talking last night and couldn't come up with an easy way to test validity of User/User sliders.

[Oneback]

OB, out of curiosity, how are you testing the User/User side? Me and G were talking last night and couldn't come up with an easy way to test validity of User/User sliders.

I am testing/tuning with two controllers in both practice and play now modes. Once I get a set I am happy with I'll have someone create an OD so we can test as a group.

[JeffHCross]

I'll have someone create an OD so we can test as a group.I can run it, if I'm around.

[psusnoop]

It's going to be tough to come back against these Heisman numbers for Barkley:


Matt Barkley
QB | SR | USC Trojans (1-2)
#17
USC
LAST WEEK
Lost at Ohio State (27-37)
22-36, 258 Yds, TD, 2 Car, 65520 Yds

SEASON STATS
54-110, 734 Yds, 6 TD, 9 Car, 65480 Yds

[psuexv]

:)

[Papa LoneStar]

Ugh....looks like I'll have to work on the Doak Walker and defensive awards....lol

[souljahbill]

Did Barkley run to Ohio from LA?

[psuexv]

Did Barkley run to Ohio from LA?

Twice :)

[JeffHCross]

Lost at Ohio State (27-37)
22-36, 258 Yds, TD, 2 Car, 65520 YdsAccording to the Player Stats for USC vs Ohio State, none of those numbers are right. What the hell?

It's -15, I think ... still fucking funny though. :D :D :D

[nykia31]

Am I the only one who has thrown in the towel on user control of a FS or LB?

I suck at it this yr...i make on bad mistake a gm...plus base pass rush pisses me off

[gschwendt]

Am I the only one who has thrown in the towel on user control of a FS or LB?

I suck at it this yr...i make on bad mistake a gm...plus base pass rush pisses me off
As you saw in our game, I stick to controlling SS1. Primarily I do that because I want to control someone that can make a tackle and also because Gordon isn't as good at man coverage as my other SS. That said, I've never felt comfortable playing the FS simply because he's too far away from the ball and is generally in deep coverage. With a LB or SS, I can take away the short routes, but LBs have lower AGI so it's tougher to control them this year.

Of note though, I very rarely ever user control DL... I'm just not well-versed at making moves, controlling gaps, etc. like I would want to. But that's why I love the 335... yeah, you have to call a lot of blitzes, but it has a lot of unique looks to it that you can do it without tipping your hat.

[nykia31]

As you saw in our game, I stick to controlling SS1. Primarily I do that because I want to control someone that can make a tackle and also because Gordon isn't as good at man coverage as my other SS. That said, I've never felt comfortable playing the FS simply because he's too far away from the ball and is generally in deep coverage. With a LB or SS, I can take away the short routes, but LBs have lower AGI so it's tougher to control them this year.

Of note though, I very rarely ever user control DL... I'm just not well-versed at making moves, controlling gaps, etc. like I would want to. But that's why I love the 335... yeah, you have to call a lot of blitzes, but it has a lot of unique looks to it that you can do it without tipping your hat.


I mean one mistake a game isnt bad, its just one mistake more then I want lol. Im pretty good with the DL and what not..im more just disgusted about how invisible they are on the passrush

[Papa LoneStar]

I'm getting better as each game goes by with the MLB...it was tough at first though.

[Escobar]

I pretty much only control the RE on defense then switch once the play starts and I identify where they play is going. I can usually make some pretty goood plays chasing down ball carriers from the backside w/ my DE or stopping outside runs to my side which frustrates people I play against. I will occasionally control the FS but the lack of ability to swat the ball in the air has made me stay away because it will cause big plays on deep passes.

[nykia31]

Ive been controlling ny best passrusher in som lab games. Im much happier lol

[ryby6969]

I have been doing pretty good so far controlling the MLB. I am thinking of editing my MLB on UAB and put casts on his hands though, because he had like 3 or 4 easy picks against E that he just dropped. Johnson on Bama has been a BLAST to play with so far. Love his 92 speed and the ability to make plays sideline to sideline.

[nykia31]

screw it. ill just suck it up and get used to it :D

[gschwendt]

nykia31 & I just played a scrimmage and I livestreamed it. It worked really well and neither of us experienced any slowdowns whatsoever.

Here's the full game (Arkansas State vs UConn)
http://www.twitch.tv/gschwendt/b/326353860

Here's the only highlight you need to see...
http://www.twitch.tv/gschwendt/b/326354342

[Oneback]

I mainly use a LBer or safety to control the running game and switch to a defender to play the ball while in the air. I haven't had may problems on deep balls when switching, but if I am manually walling with a LBer its really hard to make a play on the ball.

[Kingpin32]

I've been currently using the MLB after playing the D-Line for so many years.

[nykia31]

I think it is just a case of breaking some habits from the past, that no longer work. Playing some lab games, and just focusing on making the plays that I can make, and not trying for the super man INT, has made life better. :nod:

[JeffHCross]

How would you guys feel about lowering the # of minutes per quarter? I know some of you have had incredibly exciting games, but I feel like the game is a lot longer this year than in previous editions. Just wondering how others are feeling about the length of a game.

[psuexv]

If we went down I would say no less than 7. We did 9 last year and that was too long IMO. So far I've been ok with 8.

[nykia31]

I find 8 alright.

Notre Dame-Michigan should be up tonight!

[JeffHCross]

8 minute games this year feel like 9 minutes used to. I think it's the increased cutscenes, or something. A single game should not take me as long as they do now.

[gschwendt]

Notre Dame-Michigan should be up tonight!
http://slacktory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/yTG0R.gif

[psusnoop]

I find 8 to be good. I like the total number of snaps and would hate to see that lowered anymore.

[Papa LoneStar]

I like 8, too....especially for user games.

[Escobar]

I think 8 takes longer because of the slow game speed

[JeffHCross]

I think 8 takes longer because of the slow game speedOneback had the same theory. Or rather, his was that the slow speed makes it feel slower. But I would think a faster speed would result in more plays/more first downs, so the clock would stop more.

[Escobar]

I play on 7 min quarters and normal game speed in my OD and get good scores and a good variety of low scoring and high scoring games. When I get a chance I'll post snap counts of games

[JeffHCross]

I'll be blunt: My problem is that at least two of my OD games have taken 90+ minutes. That's crazy, and feels like a drastic change from the past, unless I'm just totally misremembering.

[Kingpin32]

I think the cutscenes are making them longer. But I'm sure that my last game went at least 2 hours.

[Escobar]

I thought about posting stats, but if you go to the Dynasty wire webiste and look up "321BCS" it will give you a better picture. So you can see the other users games and stats also based on their playstyles.

[nykia31]

Notre Dame-Michigan



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2l02MSfhWM&lc=qdGsEri9QsRn4KzcWiGKotCTp5Eg8wN2qenfRzULJZY&feature=inbox

[souljahbill]

Notre Dame-Michigan



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2l02MSfhWM&lc=qdGsEri9QsRn4KzcWiGKotCTp5Eg8wN2qenfRzULJZY&feature=inbox

Great game.........

.......and by that, I mean Southern Miss 20 - LA Tech 17. :D

Notre Dame-Michigan was pretty good too. :p

[JeffHCross]

For anyone who hasn't seen it: http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5534-Shotgun-HB-Counter&p=156412&viewfull=1#post156412

As long as we're only "SLOW" game speed, Shotgun HB Counter plays may not work, depending on your playbook. :smh:

[gschwendt]

In case you guys haven't seen, I'm starting a recruiting only OD if any of you are interested.
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5571-gschwendt-s-Recruiting-Only-OD-(PS3)

[nykia31]

For anyone who hasn't seen it: http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?5534-Shotgun-HB-Counter&p=156412&viewfull=1#post156412

As long as we're only "SLOW" game speed, Shotgun HB Counter plays may not work, depending on your playbook. :smh:

who ever is in charge of QA at EA Sports needs to be guillotined

[Escobar]

who ever is in charge of QA at EA Sports needs to be guillotined

Am I missing something, but is there a new rule where the defense can't advance a fumble? I've had numerous plays where I caused a fumble on someone other than the QB, and had the play whistled dead right after I picked up the ball.

[JeffHCross]

who ever is in charge of QA at EA Sports needs to be guillotinedTo be fair, I do work in QA (albeit not at EA), and unless I knew that there was code specific to "SLOW" game speed (which I'm not sure there is, it may just be a coincidence rather than a cause), I would never test that. Test every play, sure. But every play, every play style, and every game speed? No way.


Am I missing something, but is there a new rule where the defense can't advance a fumble? I've had numerous plays where I caused a fumble on someone other than the QB, and had the play whistled dead right after I picked up the ball.Shouldn't be.

[Escobar]

Must be the same glitch as the counter on slow. The game must be reading their knee touching the ground and stopping the play.

[ryby6969]

Must be the same glitch as the counter on slow. The game must be reading their knee touching the ground and stopping the play.

I had it happen this week against Tenn.

[JeffHCross]

I had it happen once, but when I looked back at the replay, I noticed that the animation did have the knee touch the ground. It didn't look like it live, but it did on replay.

[Oneback]

I had it happen once, but when I looked back at the replay, I noticed that the animation did have the knee touch the ground. It didn't look like it live, but it did on replay.

That's what I've noticed as well.

[nykia31]

Notre Dame-Texas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub7daUdT48s&lc=fbTaYCQGwkpBRmGEivuma0Tps7k41uhxxC6heksaoK4&feature=inbox

[psuexv]

OB, did you break any controllers this game?

[nykia31]

I would have yanked some WR's scholarships!

[Oneback]

OB, did you break any controllers this game?

At one point I almost did yes, the controller was freakishly still clinging to the last millimeter on my fingers. I think it was the overthrow on one of my last possessions that did it.

I still can't believe how many balls my WR's dropped, not that I'm really that surprised as its been that way all season long. The last two drops were killer, would have brought me to within 3 with another chance at a onside kick.

Watching the video just confirms how bad I played on defense, especially against the pass. Like nykia stated though it was one of those games where HFA just started to snowball on me.

[JeffHCross]

Ive been controlling ny best passrusher in som lab games. Im much happier lolFinally figured out, in the course of my game against Papa, that I've been trying to use Finesse Moves with guys that, well, such as Finesse Moves. So I started using the Bull Rush last night and while it didn't work as well as I'd hope, it worked well enough. I had one play where I whipped the OL with my DT (http://easw.easports.com:8096/media2013/ncaa13/4278711/421A0001_33_GR_JPEG_SCREENSHOT_fgd.jpg), and came straight in for a sack. That was so satisfying.

[JeffHCross]

Go ahead and get this conversation started ...

Does anybody think we still need "you can only bring back X players" rules for Players Leaving this year? For anyone who hasn't gone through an offseason yet, the Players Leaving stage has completely changed. However, despite the change that you have to make promises this year, I've found that convincing someone to stay (at least guys going to the draft) is pretty damn easy. Transfers are hard, but Draft declarees are really, really easy.

[Papa LoneStar]

I vote for 95+

[Oneback]

So with the new patch out I need thoughts...what needs to change in the sliders.

[psuexv]

So with the new patch out I need thoughts...what needs to change in the sliders.

I say break tackle needs looked at but that was before the patch as well.

I know Jeff has had issues with QB accuracy and I continue to see them as well. Only issue is that it's sporadic. I want to chalk it up to the QB being rattled but it happens in games I'm winning and I have a senior QB with very good ratings.

[gschwendt]

It sucks that I have a contract goal of "sign all needed positions during each regular season", and one of my positions is QB... I signed two ATHs that will play QB yet neither do/will count towards that need. I targeted generic QB late hoping to sign & cut him (no one else was even talking to him) but doesn't look like I'll get him during the regular season :glare:

[JeffHCross]

I know Jeff has had issues with QB accuracy and I continue to see them as well. Only issue is that it's sporadic. I want to chalk it up to the QB being rattled but it happens in games I'm winning and I have a senior QB with very good ratings.Didn't see any such issue with my backup tonight. Nor against LSU. Don't know how to explain that.

[psuexv]

It sucks that I have a contract goal of "sign all needed positions during each regular season", and one of my positions is QB... I signed two ATHs that will play QB yet neither do/will count towards that need. I targeted generic QB late hoping to sign & cut him (no one else was even talking to him) but doesn't look like I'll get him during the regular season :glare:

SOB I didn't even think of this. I need to go check my goals now :fp:

[JeffHCross]

SOB I didn't even think of this. I need to go check my goals now :fp:Yep, that's on yours too.

[psuexv]

Yep, that's on yours too.

Shit. Of course it might not matter when I didn't hit any other goals :D

[psusnoop]

I say break tackle needs looked at but that was before the patch as well.

I know Jeff has had issues with QB accuracy and I continue to see them as well. Only issue is that it's sporadic. I want to chalk it up to the QB being rattled but it happens in games I'm winning and I have a senior QB with very good ratings.

I know you have had issues E, and heard of Jeff's issues but then see NYkia's completing almost 75% of his passes. I'm sitting at 58% right now for Bennett which for me is probably close to what I should be.

Here are the numbers in passing (just users):
1 Phillip Ely QB Bama 4 4 100.0 132 1 0
2 Dustin Haines QB Oreg 4 4 100.0 56 1 0
3 Case McCoy QB Texas20 15 75.0 172 2 3
4 Tommy Rees QB ND 304 226 74.3 3020 25 9
5 AJ McCarron QB Bama 276 197 71.4 2851 25 15
6 Russell Bellom QB Mich 3 2 66.7 18 0 0
7 Everett Golson QB ND 21 14 66.7 192 4 1
8 Clint Trickett QB FSU 48 32 66.7 387 3 1
9 Devin Gardner QB Mich 87 54 62.1 799 12 3
10Tyler Wilson QB Ark 313 194 62.0 3496 22 18
11Zach MettenberQB LSU 243 149 61.3 2783 18 16
12Jameill ShowerQB TAMU 175 107 61.1 1851 16 8
13Clint Chelf QB Ok St539 327 60.7 4172 39 25
14David Ash QB Texas414 249 60.1 4215 42 16
15JW Walsh QB Ok St25 15 60.0 215 2 1
16Matt Joeckel QB TAMU 86 51 59.3 1105 12 1
17EJ Manuel QB FSU 273 159 58.2 2023 15 8
18Bryan BennettQB Oreg 211 122 57.8 1855 18 15
19Matt Barkley QB USC 430 237 55.1 3343 23 22
20Ken Guiton QB OSU 64 35 54.7 646 7 3
21Brandon MitcheQB Ark 13 7 53.8 119 0 0
22Braxton Miller QB OSU 250 134 53.6 2231 19 11
23Marcus MariotaQB Oreg 6 3 50.0 32 0 0
24Denard RobinsoQB Mich 153 76 49.7 1172 10 10
25Cody Kessler QB USC 19 8 42.1 138 1 0

I can't explain why Barkley is so far off target at times, but just based of this I don't think we need to bump up accuracy. Those numbers look pretty good in my opinion.

The break tackles, like we were discussing last night I had issues early on with the NCAA 13 as a whole with that but since I've set Big Hits and Strip to conservative it has helped with the broken tackles for myself. I would buy into that being bumped down just a bit, but not till after this season for any adjustments since we are right there currently.

[psusnoop]

Damn that's ugly, it was nicer before I hit send :fp:

[ryby6969]

I have continued to have issues with broken tackles, even setting "big hit" to conservative. The only user I really had a problem against was Jeff, which is funny because he had one of the smaller backs I have went against. :D Marshall for Georgia was insane to try and tackle, as he had 6 recorded broken tackles but probably another 10 that it did not count and he is a Freshman rated like 81 and considered a "speed" back.

QB accuracy is all about the type of routes as I think Kia and I both use more of a quick passing game and would help with completion %'s. I will say that this year has been like last in that my guys simply will not catch the ball on defense. I cannot force turnovers because of this, and it is really starting to piss me off! :D I can hit stick the HB all game, and he almost never fumbles the ball. I have only forced 2 fumbles with Nico Johnson, but have been involved in almost 150 tackles, including almost 40 for a loss, many right after the HB gets the ball.

[psuexv]

Yeah I agree Ryby. I set it to conservative as well and most of the time it's the cpu missing the tackle.

[Oneback]

I'll say this, I've been working on sliders all season long but didn't want to implement them until next season/after the patch came out.

[Kingpin32]

I've had the tackling problem all season. Opposing RBs rushing for over 200-300 yards almost every other game.

[JeffHCross]

Not to keep harping on E, but it does seem that the drastic swaying of Job Security has been toned down this year, and coaches gain/lose job security at a much more tempered rate.

To that end, watching E's contract is going to be very interesting. As far as I can guess, he's practically guaranteed to have the following failed goal penalties:
1 x :1redarrow:
3 x :3redarrow:
1 x :6redarrow:

He may also pass one :2greenarrow: (though I actually think that's a bug :D)

So that's 16 < total. He's at 55% right now, so it's going to be very interesting to see if he survives. It's also a four year contract. Will be interesting to see if that seems to influence his retention at all.

[nykia31]

Broken tackles still happen at a pretty good clip.

I'm the wrong guy to speak to as far as QB accuracy since most of the passes I throw are of the West Coast/Air Raid variety.

I was puzzled as to why Barkley was so off target, as you'll hear in my commentary.

Rees has a 92 accuracy and although he throws a clunker here and there, he's pretty steady..

[nykia31]

Notre Dame-USC



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G816j1Non3M&feature=youtu.be

[JeffHCross]

Tex, I'm not sure if the rosters we're using are to blame, or the default rosters ... but man, I am sorry with how screwed you got with the OSU rosters. They are ... rather pathetically wrong (for such a major program).

[texacotea]

Tex, I'm not sure if the rosters we're using are to blame, or the default rosters ... but man, I am sorry with how screwed you got with the OSU rosters. They are ... rather pathetically wrong (for such a major program).

Well I will contribute 3 of my 5 losses to EA and now show that tOSU finished 11-2 on the year

[JeffHCross]

So that's 16 < total. He's at 55% right now, so it's going to be very interesting to see if he survives. It's also a four year contract. Will be interesting to see if that seems to influence his retention at all. E survives (32%) as does Bob Stoops (15%). Very interesting.

[texacotea]

What does happen if we get fired?

[gschwendt]

What does happen if we get fired?
You're booted from the OD, banned from TGT, and relegated to join a random public OD of our choosing.

[psusnoop]

You're booted from the OD, banned from TGT, and relegated to join a random public OD of our choosing.

:D

[Papa LoneStar]

lmao @ G

[psuexv]

E survives (32%) as does Bob Stoops (15%). Very interesting.

Whew!!!!

[texacotea]

G you ever edit tOSU and Michigan game?

[gschwendt]

G you ever edit tOSU and Michigan game?
No... I might find time to do it this week though.

[nykia31]

Notre Dame-Oregon



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LkHtichpCs&feature=youtu.be

[ryby6969]

Kia, did you do live commentary on the game last night? I have not posted how the game ended because I did not want to spoil it. Hell of a game and if I was doing live commentary I would have to edit 90% of it out because I was cussing so much. :D

[nykia31]

I did, but I just discovered that only the 1st 3 qtrs recorded!!! :fp: :bang:

I think a cable came loose. Probably during a mini fit of my own...ill still post. you had taken the lead, and I got a INT, and then the 3rd qtr ended

[ryby6969]

:(

[ryby6969]

I did, but I just discovered that only the 1st 3 qtrs recorded!!! :fp: :bang:

I think a cable came loose. Probably during a mini fit of my own...ill still post. you had taken the lead, and I got a INT, and then the 3rd qtr ended

I about blew a gasket after almost each one of my guys dropped int's. Do not even get me started on the long pass that hit my guy right in the helmet. :fp: I almost broke my TV after that play. :D

[nykia31]

there were a lot of those..my guys booted some as well.

lol at the helmet..I said "AHHHHHHHHHHH perfect call against that coverage! Saved by the DOINK!"

[ryby6969]

there were a lot of those..my guys booted some as well.

lol at the helmet..I said "AHHHHHHHHHHH perfect call against that coverage! Saved by the DOINK!"

One of McCarron's best throws wasted. lol It ended up not being to bad considering I still scored on the drive, but at the time I was heated!

[Papa LoneStar]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/daddy2002/2012-08-21175112.jpg

I couldn't wait to practice with Sheldon Hall....so I created him....and now I get to practice with my playbook....and I'll bench the seniors so he can get familiar with his teammates #PracticeModeJunkie

[gschwendt]

I couldn't wait to practice with Sheldon Hall....so I created him....and now I get to practice with my playbook....and I'll bench the seniors so he can get familiar with his teammates #PracticeModeJunkie
Yeah... since we'll be doing offseason over a period of time, I'll be creating my team on TeamBuilder and play around with them that way.

[psusnoop]

Yeah... since we'll be doing offseason over a period of time, I'll be creating my team on TeamBuilder and play around with them that way.

I'm hoping since most have full classes and with the web we can get through the 5 weeks rather quickly. Here is to hoping!

[JeffHCross]

Kia, did you do live commentary on the game last night? I have not posted how the game ended because I did not want to spoil it.You do know we all looked as soon as your game ended, right? :D

[Papa LoneStar]

You do know we all looked as soon as your game ended, right? :D

Not I....

[ryby6969]

You do know we all looked as soon as your game ended, right? :D

So you know what play ended the game?

[gschwendt]

Yeah... since we'll be doing offseason over a period of time, I'll be creating my team on TeamBuilder and play around with them that way.
If anyone wants or plans to build their team, I've built mine and would love to see some on-the-field action against a user. So far, it feels like this is already going to be a special team and I can't wait to see what they look like in a few years.

[JeffHCross]

So you know what play ended the game?Ah. When you said "how it ended", I assumed you merely meant the result.

[ryby6969]

Ah. When you said "how it ended", I assumed you merely meant the result.

Nah, I knew everyone checked to see who won. He had the ball at like my 10 yard line with around 15 seconds left.

[Oneback]

I'm done.

[Papa LoneStar]

Nah, I knew everyone checked to see who won. He had the ball at like my 10 yard line with around 15 seconds left.

I felt pain just reading that....ouchhhh!

[ryby6969]

Where is the video Kia? I want to watch myself. :D

[nykia31]

Soooooooo....Who oversigned, and had to shatter the dreams of their lowest rated recruits? <raises hand> :D

Vid should be up tonight.

[psuexv]

Soooooooo....Who oversigned, and had to shatter the dreams of their lowest rated recruits? <raises hand> :D


Guilty, I blame scouting :)

[psusnoop]

Guilty, I blame scouting :)

Guilty, I blame USC

[psuexv]

Guilty, I blame USC

HAHA!