Powerhouse OD - General Discussion Thread

[skipwondah33]

Yeah I will stay around the forums. I'm in the IT field so I do nothing but surf the web and stay on the forums ALL day. My forum activity goes down when I get home though understandly because I don't want to see another computer when I get home from work lol.

Its just been a rough 2 weeks, lack of sleep isn't helping at all after being up all night every night. Once I missed the game Tex and I had scheduled, I knew this could happen again and if anyone knows I absolutely hate missing games/standing people up or having my games simmed. Doesn't help that I am in 4 Madden leagues either which I have to drop out all but one of those likely.

My gaming will now revolve around playing the CPU in many games which I despise but I need to spend every chance I get with my wife and son.

I'll definitely stay around to check to see if Jeff is still bribing LB's from other schools lol.

I'm going to finish the season strong though

[Oneback]

Just saw this, I hate to see you go skip but I completely understand. Let me know if things settle down for you and you'd like to rejoin, we would welcome you back anytime.

[texacotea]

Hate to see you go skip, Knew that this yrs battle would have been another thriller. But I know how it is with the new one around.

[gschwendt]

Someone is just scared to face Wisconsin next season... rightfully so.

Seriously though, sorry to see you go man.

[skipwondah33]

Just saw this, I hate to see you go skip but I completely understand. Let me know if things settle down for you and you'd like to rejoin, we would welcome you back anytime.

Appreciate it OB, if/when it does I'll take you up on that.


Someone is just scared to face Wisconsin next season... rightfully so.

Seriously though, sorry to see you go man.

Haha I fogot all about traveling to Camp Randall next season, ah man I hate to miss that one since we set up a series but you will probably enter in the "less kicking power" cheat code on me again :) haha

[psuexv]

Good Luck Skip - I'm sure you'll be back in no time. The little one will soon get settled in a routine.

[psusnoop]

Good Luck Skip - I'm sure you'll be back in no time. The little one will soon get settled in a routine.


Spot on about routine, once that is established you'll notice that you will have a little more time to spend with the wife again and your gaming! LOL

[JeffHCross]

Why's everyone being so quiet lately? More to the point ... what would you guys like to do to get more chatter going on here? A smack talking thread?

[Iron Dragon]

With my user-user games done and the season wrapping up, here's a way too early Oklahoma 2012 starting lineup:

QB - Jones*, Bell/Allen
RB - Calhoun, Clay/Finch, Recruit?
FB - Musil
WR - Reynolds, Stills, Richardson? (FR), Muse, Huffman, McClain, Millard (WR/TE)
TE - Millard, Parsons/Haywood, Wallace
LT - D. Williams (RT), Recruit?/Kearney (rFR), Noel?
LG - Irwin, Recruit?
C - Habern, Ikard
RG - Evans, Thompson, Slaughter?
RT - Aladenoye, Recruit?

LE - Grissom/Recruit/Washington, Slaughter
RE - Chaisson, Washington, Favors
DT - McFarland, McGee, Walker, Humphrey, Peterson
LOLB - R. Lewis, Lee
MLB - Wort, Franklin, Jefferson
ROLB - Bird, Nelson (CB?)
CB - Hurst, Lynn, Richardson? (FR), Harris
FS - Trice, Hayes (CB?)
SS - Ibiloye, Jefferson, Lumpkin (LB?)
K - O'Hara
P - Way

Offense: If Jones goes, we'll have a gaping hole on the offense, Jones could be a 99 OVR next year if he returns and would be a great leader with a majorly inexperienced group of recievers. Reynolds, Stills, Millard and Erik Richardson, who could play both ways, look to be our four guys catching it next year. Brett Muse could be an interesting one, too. On the line, we'll have to replace three starters.

Defense: New starters at defensive ends, I love how quick Chaisson is, along with Slaughter. Slaughter needs to improve alot though. Slaughter could have high 90's ACC for a defensive lineman. Insane. We lose Travis Lewis, who's been a leader on D. Wort could see his OVR hit 99 as a redshirt junior. Our secondary should be improved but who will be our second CB? Who knows.

Special Teams: We'll have to find someone to replace Dejuan Miller as #2 KR, and I'd expect that to be someone like Brett Muse, otherwise, an improvement all around.

[Oneback]

Why's everyone being so quiet lately? More to the point ... what would you guys like to do to get more chatter going on here? A smack talking thread?

I am going to chalk it up to the usual lull once football season and school starts up. However, that is a good idea what would it take to get a bit more participation?

[fsuprime]

i dont enjoy taking part in smack talk so that wont get me more involved, but it would be funny watching you all go at it ;)

[JeffHCross]

i dont enjoy taking part in smack talk so that wont get me more involved, but it would be funny watching you all go at it ;)I didn't really think that would get people more talkative, just throwing it out there. If you have any ideas, they'd be welcome.

[Papa LoneStar]

I really hope Whaley returns next year....at 250....he will finally have over 90 trucking and break tackle....combined with 91 speed and improved acceleration....he will be a beast....especially with Earl Campbell, Jr. backing him up. Whaley was healthy this year (and with Clay out....likely will lead the country in rushing TDs) so he'll probably take his numbers and leave as Earl "should" come in rated pretty high with his elite athleticism.

[Oneback]

Nick Cleveland would like to challange that leading the country claim...as a true freshmen he has run for 1,136 yards and 17 touchdowns on 176 attempts so far...two games to go.

[JeffHCross]

Erm, Oneback ... he's up 9 TDs on you right now (Whaley has 26, and I'm not sure if that includes the 5 he got today). And I'm not giving up that many to you today.

Unless we go into OT again, lol.

[Oneback]

That may be true, but as a Fr that played behind Michael Cox before Cox was hurt for the season and will end up starting every game next season I think Nick will be able to hang.

[JeffHCross]

Well, yeah. But I think Papa was saying that he'll win it this year. Not next.

[Oneback]

Good point, still quite tired and read it as next year.

[JeffHCross]

If you're tired and you want to delay our game, feel free. I seriously have no plans this weekend other than watching football and some house-cleaning.

[Oneback]

No, I had just woken up and was still in that groggy state, twas my day to sleep in. I'll be ready by 12 or 1 central.

[JeffHCross]

Gotcha.

[Papa LoneStar]

Look forward to receiving that game update email. The 5 from last night takes it up to 31....he's now the Longhorn season record holder....hope to get 7 in the next two games to break Barry's record....but I'm sure he'll get hurt and fall short....lol.

[gschwendt]

Look forward to receiving that game update email. The 5 from last night takes it up to 31....he's now the Longhorn season record holder....hope to get 7 in the next two games to break Barry's record....but I'm sure he'll get hurt and fall short....lol.
That was my goal as well after I had the rushing yards record... I needed 8 in two games but obviously will fall short.

[JeffHCross]

Pepe Pearson also got 5 today, lol. Obviously he has no hope of catching you, Papa, since I have no more games. But 25 in a season in which I played a more-than-steady dose of backups makes me pretty happy. I'm just hoping he doesn't jump to the NFL.

[JeffHCross]

I have absolutely nothing to do until the bowls.

I probably will not be logging in until then, either, lol.

[Oneback]

This is starting to look like a really bad weekend: go down in flames to tOSU, Texas goes down to UCLA and there is a very real chance the Cowboys go down tomorrow to Houston...and to top it all off I've got an ear infection which means I will be staying at home tonight.

[psuexv]

This is starting to look like a really bad weekend: go down in flames to tOSU, Texas goes down to UCLA

I just saw that come across the bottom line. What happened to the Horns?

[psuexv]

I don't know if anyone just saw that return by Rodgers for Oregon State but, wow

[Oneback]

I just saw that come across the bottom line. What happened to the Horns?

An offensive line that cannot block in the running game and a true soph QB that was starting his 4th game of his career, add in a defense that looked good early but then lost steam as the game went on due to consistantly being on the field and just got ran over in the second half.

Its not a good combination when you have a young quarterback with no running game and a play caller that is notoriously conservative.

[JeffHCross]

I don't know if anyone just saw that return by Rodgers for Oregon State but, wowSaw it. Earlier today I commented to my dad that Terrelle Pryor's touchdown run (watch any highlight show and it'll be in there) was something I couldn't do, even in a video game. Rogers punt return was the same.

[fsuprime]

i love las vegas sands, if it was a women i would buy it 4 dozen roses and a diamond ring.

Im not looking forward to recruiting next year, i need to get a texas type hunk of good luck with top prospects to fill some critical positions of need and im not sure the game will give it to me ;)

looking over everyones rosters, i think michigan will make the biggest move as they have a super young team that will see some size-able jumps in off season progression and the only key loss seems to be at RB.

Miami is going to take a big hit at QB and WR, losing 4 of the top 5 WRs will hurt and i dont like any of the QBs on the roster at all, but im sure Tex will make the necessary playbook adjustments to be competitive.

FSU loses its top 3 Linebackers and top 3 WRs which will be their biggest losses, as the WRs behind them are unproven and have ratings gimpyness from weird EA initial ratings. The LBs will be the biggest loss though, they have mostly masked an average DL with their excellent play.

USC and Texas probably have the best initial rosters in our OD, so trouble is not there yet and with good recruiting we might not see a drop off, Im wondering if Connor Wood transfers from texas though with the logjam of talent at the QB position.

Clemson's offense should get better with great QB depth and WRs progressing, but the RBs are starting to get pretty thin and the OL only has another year in them before it starts to get dicey. The defense is also starting to thin out and will need some help at CB and DT imo.

wiscy and tsou sort of look the same to me right now, i would kill to have wiscy's OL who all seem to be badass So(rs) lol. Skill positions look ragged but great coaching will put them in position to win.

Have not looked at Oregon or Vatech since coaching flux is still in the air.

[psuexv]

Next year ought to be interesting for USC. Offensively we should be fairly dominated with Barkley hopefully returning and a stable of WRs and young RBs behind a good Oline. The defense is going to be iffy with possibly replacing the entire Dline if Armstead leaves early and replacing starting MLB, FS and SS. The young guys I brought in this class are going to have to step up early.

[texacotea]

That is true, been trying to get some backups in as far as QB, but they are terrible. terrible, terrible. I didnt realize that my backups were that bad until this year and didnt really recruit. So next year will def be a rollercoaster on offense for sure

[psusnoop]

:dunno:PSU overlooked again, geez no respect.

[fsuprime]

same with OU, looked at the rosters friday night so i cant remember everything :)

[psusnoop]

LOL, just messing.

But I was just looking and OUCH. I knew how many and what positions but really looking at it like this has me really concerned.

I'm losing top HB, FB, WR

Losing 3 of 5 Starting Offensive Lineman

Losing all 4 Starting Defensive Lineman

Losing 2 of 3 Starting LB'rs

Losing 2 CB's (1 starter, one Dime)

Losing both Starting Safeties

Losing Punter.


Penn State, needs this year for a run because next year is going to be brutal. OUCH.

[gschwendt]

Here's an early look at Wisconsin's depth chart next year...
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=th-ac4vZyOXjYDzyZ3gVYLA&authkey=CKHK__UL#gid=5
Ratings are still from this year's game... class is updated.

[Oneback]

My biggest concerns right now are FB where I have no one, TE where I will hopefully have one, and defensive tackle. I don't know why but thus far I have found it extrmely hard to recruit FB's and TE's. I've got 2 nose tackles right now and if things go right in the off season I may have one DT.

Tate Forcier will likely return and be 90+ ovr however there are rumors coming out of Ann Arbor that Forcier has fallen out of favor with the coaching staff and they may turn to Devin Gardner next year. At HB Michael Cox who rushed for 1800 yards last year should return from his injury this year and true freshmen Nate Cleveland who will rush for 1200+ yards this year should see the bulk of the carries next season. Speedsters Vincent Smith and Fitzgerald Tousaint should again handle kick return duties and see some action on offense. At fullback there are two walk on's from last year and nothing in the pipeline thus far to take over.

Wide receiver will be interesting as Roy Roundtree should return, Darryl Stonum will return from medical redshirt, Ronnie Lewis who is redshirting this season should make a big splash next season as well. Behind them will be JeRon Stokes and two incoming freshmen.

At tightend there is Brandon Moore who better come back because there is no one else. Rocko Khoury who is playing LG this season may slide outside to be a blocking TE but unless the recruiting tables turn this position is looking mighty thin.

Along the offensive line some alignment of RS Jr Patrick Omameh (LT may move to RG), FR Logan Cooper (LT), RS Jr Ricky Barnum (LG), RS So Quinton Washington (RG), RS So Taylor Lewan (RT), FR Bill Sykes (C), Rec Greg Buchanan (OG) will see most of the playing time.

Defensive end is going to be interesting as I am losing the perfect strongside DE in Ryan Van Bergen. If Craig Roh decides to come back for his senior season which I have every reason to believe he will, he will move from the weakside to the strong side where he is a better fit although not a perfect fit. On the weakside we will have pass rushing specialists Darren Jennings a JUCO transfer from last year, RS Fr Ken Wilkins who depending on the offseason could win the job and incoming freshman (ESPN 150) Chris Haynes will likely see most of his action in passing situations.

At nose tackle RS So William Campbell will man the middle, at 6'5'' 330+ pounds he is a perfect fit, incoming recruit Brandon Coe (4-star) will back him up and play some at 3-tech if no one currently on the roster can grab hold of the position.

Speaking of the 3-tech RS Fr Richard Ash is the only one capable and he shows the athletic ability to play the position but the coaches are worried about his strength. With a solid offseason in the weight room he could take the reigns.

Linebacker was a position of weakness this season with only two players capable of holding up against the bruising nature of the Big 10, only problem is that one of them is graduating and the other is really best suited for special teams play. The coaching staff however did a great job of addressing this need by bringing in two ESPN Top 150 recruits in #1 OLB William Logan who will likely move to MLB and #2 OLB Ricky Woods who will play on the strong side. Brett Nash joined the group and will move from MLB where he played in high school to weakside linebacker where he can really use his athletic ability, Nash will back up last years top linebacking recruit Jarred Roberts.

RS Jr Kenny Demens will backup William Logan at MLB and will see most of his playing time on special teams. He'll only see time on defense in mop up duty or if Logan struggles. If Woods were to be injured Logan would move to the strongside and Demens would then step in at MLB as well.

Junior Brandin Hawthorne will play the money position in the nickle unless RS Jr safety Jordan Kovacs is able to take the position away, if so Hawthorne will only see time on special teams.

At cornerback the same cast returns in RS Jr JT Floyd, RS So JT Turner, RS Fr Demar Dorsey and RS Fr Cullen Christian, they will be a year older and the coaching staff expects them to hold down the secondary all of whom have done a good job this year. Freshman Eddie Long shows good athletic ability but needs to work on his coverage skills.

At Safety Junior Vladimir Emilien will return to the rover position and make plays as he has done throughout his career and Thomas Gordon will patrol the deep using his superior athletic abiltiy to generate turnovers.

Both specialits are underclassmen this year and will return as probably the best unit in the Big 10.

[Oneback]

I know Papa is having the same problem but is anyone else having problems with practice mode within the OD? Everytime I enter the game freezes. If anyne has any solutions it would be greatly appreciated.

[JeffHCross]

wiscy and tsou sort of look the same to me right now, i would kill to have wiscy's OL who all seem to be badass So(rs) lol. Skill positions look ragged but great coaching will put them in position to win.Not much changing for OSU next year, except a year older and wiser. We lose our "best" two receivers, but only one of them will realistically be missed. Our 3 freshmen TEs will become 2 sophomores and a redshirt.

The defensive side of the ball is the only real concern ... losing stellar players at both DEs and a MLB that has anchored the defense. Losing some secondary players too, but that should be the easiest place to reload.

[psuexv]

Since we are getting close to the end of the year I figured I'd start talking OOC games. I'd like to play PSU and Michigan again and complete the home/home series if either of you are up for it.

[psusnoop]

PSU is good for that.

I'd like to keep Oregon (KingPin) too if your still up for finishing that one.

I'll add anyone else for 3 user ooc games, Papa if your interested or Prime, ID, Tex, Escobar,

[Kingpin32]

PSU is good for that.

I'd like to keep Oregon (KingPin) too if your still up for finishing that one.

I'll add anyone else for 3 user ooc games, Papa if your interested or Prime, ID, Tex, Escobar,

I'm still up for it. I want to keep all the OCC games that I had with TTU if I can.

[psusnoop]

I'm still up for it. I want to keep all the OCC games that I had with TTU if I can.

Sounds good

Thus far I have

USC
Oregon

Willing to take one more.

[Oneback]

Michigan was planing on the return trip to LA and having Clemson in for a visit.

[psuexv]

Excellent - I will have PSU, Mich and ND as my OOC games.

[gschwendt]

I'd like to add Miami to my lineup... outside of that I'm open to all takers.

[fsuprime]

think we can get offseason done in one swoop ? or probably not?

[psuexv]

I should be available any night this week to get it done. I only have 2 guys on my board and will probably toss a couple on from the new recruits.

[gschwendt]

think we can get offseason done in one swoop ? or probably not?
I assume with Papa's schedule, it would have to be this weekend.

[Oneback]

Yeah, we can only do that on the weekends now.

[psuexv]

Hopefully since it's we should be in the offseason Wednesday night we can get a couple of steps complete through the week and maybe be into or close to the start of season come the weekend.

[texacotea]

Hopefully since it's we should be in the offseason Wednesday night we can get a couple of steps complete through the week and maybe be into or close to the start of season come the weekend.

yea seemed to work well in Gs dynasty.

[JeffHCross]

Sounds good

Thus far I have

USC
Oregon

Willing to take one more.Thought you and Papa had a home-and-home arranged?

[psusnoop]

Thought you and Papa had a home-and-home arranged?

Oh yea, that is right. Papa are you still good for that?

[psuexv]

Oh yea, that is right. Papa are you still good for that?

Talk about a Powerhouse schedule - USC, Texas, Oregon and the Big Ten schedule!

[psusnoop]

Sounds like a very fun year if you ask me. I just wish I was returning a little more on defense.

As for my other OOC game, try to get Pitt in there if you could Oneback.

[texacotea]

anyone doing award updates?

[Oneback]

I will do so soon Tex.

[Papa LoneStar]

Oh yea, that is right. Papa are you still good for that?

Yes sirrrr....a little wager....you win the 2011 national championship....the Longhorns will come to Happy Valley in week 2....if you lose to the U....you come to Austin in week 2?

....and Jeff....how about the opposite for week 3? (if you were still interested)

I'll open up against Arkansas in Austin in week 1 to utilize my new dual-back system....or get a jump start for Earl Campbell, Jr's run for 2000 as a true freshman :-)

[psusnoop]

Yes sirrrr....a little wager....you win the 2011 national championship....the Longhorns will come to Happy Valley in week 2....if you lose to the U....you come to Austin in week 2?

....and Jeff....how about the opposite for week 3? (if you were still interested)

I'll open up against Arkansas in Austin in week 1 to utilize my new dual-back system....or get a jump start for Earl Campbell, Jr's run for 2000 as a true freshman :-)

That sounds like a good deal. I'll take the wager..

[Escobar]

Yep, I'm looking forward to that rematch with Michigan. And wouldn't mind playing Penn State.

[psusnoop]

Yep, I'm looking forward to that rematch with Michigan. And wouldn't mind playing Penn State.

Right now I've got USC, Texas, and Oregon on my OOC schedule.

How about we schedule/start an home and home schedule next season as the current contracts with USC and Oregon would be fulfilled? Would that work?

[Papa LoneStar]

Right now I've got USC, Texas, and Oregon on my OOC schedule.


Looks like somebody is tryin' to knock the Pac-10 down the ladder before conference play....might mess around and be 0-3.... :-O

[psusnoop]

Yea but I do play USC so that is atleast a 1-2 start for me.


Tex you ready for this evenings game?

[texacotea]

Yea but I do play USC so that is atleast a 1-2 start for me.


Tex you ready for this evenings game?

Ready as I will ever be id say.....no line has been put out yet?

[psusnoop]

Ready as I will ever be id say.....no line has been put out yet?

I really want to hear some lines too before kickoff

[psuexv]

A line on this one might be a little difficult. It's probably about as close to a pick 'em as there is. However I think it comes down to two key battles.

Jacory Harris's 4027 yards, 40 TDs throwing to Collier, Streeter, Byrd with 1064, 889, 780 yards against Morris and Thomas with 8 and 6 picks on the year. Key to this match up I think it comes down to speed the PSU Dbs being able to keep up with and cover the wideouts. Collier, Streeter, Byrd come in with speed of 89,83, 90 against Morris, Thomas at 92,91 both with excellent coverage ratings.

The other battle - the 3 headed monster of PSU's running attack of Green, Redd, Beachum against a Miami defense built around speed with an anchor in the middle of Fortson and his 32 tackles as a DT. I think the PSU running game will be able to stay fresh with 3 backs and wear down the U defense.

Overall I think both teams will get their chances but it comes down to the PSU secondary picking Harris - 31-30 PSU.

[texacotea]

A line on this one might be a little difficult. It's probably about as close to a pick 'em as there is. However I think it comes down to two key battles.

Jacory Harris's 4027 yards, 40 TDs throwing to Collier, Streeter, Byrd with 1064, 889, 780 yards against Morris and Thomas with 8 and 6 picks on the year. Key to this match up I think it comes down to speed the PSU Dbs being able to keep up with and cover the wideouts. Collier, Streeter, Byrd come in with speed of 89,83, 90 against Morris, Thomas at 92,91 both with excellent coverage ratings.

The other battle - the 3 headed monster of PSU's running attack of Green, Redd, Beachum against a Miami defense built around speed with an anchor in the middle of Fortson and his 32 tackles as a DT. I think the PSU running game will be able to stay fresh with 3 backs and wear down the U defense.

Overall I think both teams will get their chances but it comes down to the PSU secondary picking Harris - 31-30 PSU.

Ill take thatt, nice job.

Harris does have a problem throwing picks. Did notice that you mentioned 3 wrs but only 2 dbs. I like those odds

[psusnoop]

Lynn is my silent assassin at CB, LOL.

Nice breakdown, love to read some more!

[psuexv]

What time is KO? I think I remember seeing 10:30?

[Escobar]

Yea, that's fine snoop.

[texacotea]

yea 10:30

[psusnoop]

I'm not sure how this is going to work, but psuexv and I are going to try to have him watch the game through my webcam.

I'm also thinking of doing it through skype. I'm thinking that I can record the game (big boo though because I will have to play through standard def) and then using the skype program have psuexv watch the game. I'm thinking this might work . Might not look the best for the viewers but might be interesting nontheless.

thoughts?

[gschwendt]

I'm not sure how this is going to work, but psuexv and I are going to try to have him watch the game through my webcam.

I'm also thinking of doing it through skype. I'm thinking that I can record the game (big boo though because I will have to play through standard def) and then using the skype program have psuexv watch the game. I'm thinking this might work . Might not look the best for the viewers but might be interesting nontheless.

thoughts?It can work, but you need a GREAT internet connection in order to do so and even then can have lag/slow down.

[psuexv]

We're actually going to use Gmail's video chat and he's just going to webcam the TV. Quality won't be the greatest but if I can make out what's going on it may be cool.

[psusnoop]

Hit me up or psuexv if you want to view game, i know it will display what I do but I'm all about excution and I'll be sure to set my audibles to

[Escobar]

I'd be interested in watching. Do you need my Google name?

[Oneback]

I'd be interested in watching the MNC. What do you need from me?

[JeffHCross]

....and Jeff....how about the opposite for week 3? (if you were still interested)Yep, I'm game.

Skip, if you're still reading this, make sure before you retire from the dynasty that you set your playbook (Coach Philosophy) to something that's good for the CPU, with your current roster. I figure after two seasons you could probably be safe with whatever you choose, but we don't want to run into another situation where the CPU's PB is wrong. I think it's your call, Coach, about whether you leave your current PB or use Virginia Tech.

Along those lines, before we add a 12th member, we need to get either someone who has a 2nd name, or someone we can just ask to hop on, to double check the coach settings for the teams that are no longer user controlled. I have a gut feeling that since Kingpin swapped from TTU to Oregon that TTU will now have the Air Force playbook. Oregon running Air Force wasn't horribly wrong ... TTU running Air Force would be really, really bad.

[psusnoop]

Guys I didn't get this to work, I tried messing around before I left for bowling and still didn't get it to work. Frustrating because I was able to get a good picture with my desktop upstairs (PS3 is downstairs), but my laptop, and different desktop were a no go downstairs. I'm going to keep messing around with those two that are not working and hope to have a few of my games on.

[Iron Dragon]

Hoping my three headed monster leads us next year:

(rSR) Jermie Calhoun - 192 rush att, 1274 yards, 6.6 YPC, 15 TDs, 14 rec, 148 yards
(rSO, FR AA) Brennan Clay - 77 rush att, 489 yards, 6.3 YPC, 13 TDs, 3 rec, 45 yards
(rSO) Roy Finch - 50 rush att, 339 yards, 6.7 YPC, 6 TDs, 2 rec, 18 yards

They combined for 23 runs of 20+ this year, with 70 broken tackles.

Our 2317 yards on the ground this year total was pretty good with the nation's no. 6 pass offense.

[skipwondah33]

Skip, if you're still reading this, make sure before you retire from the dynasty that you set your playbook (Coach Philosophy) to something that's good for the CPU, with your current roster. I figure after two seasons you could probably be safe with whatever you choose, but we don't want to run into another situation where the CPU's PB is wrong. I think it's your call, Coach, about whether you leave your current PB or use Virginia Tech.

Along those lines, before we add a 12th member, we need to get either someone who has a 2nd name, or someone we can just ask to hop on, to double check the coach settings for the teams that are no longer user controlled. I have a gut feeling that since Kingpin swapped from TTU to Oregon that TTU will now have the Air Force playbook. Oregon running Air Force wasn't horribly wrong ... TTU running Air Force would be really, really bad.

Just now seeing this Jeff. Will do soon as I get home this evening. I forgot all about that

I did give them a pretty solid class, not sure where they ended up at but there will definitely be play makers on the field

[Escobar]

Along those lines, before we add a 12th member, we need to get either someone who has a 2nd name, or someone we can just ask to hop on, to double check the coach settings for the teams that are no longer user controlled. I have a gut feeling that since Kingpin swapped from TTU to Oregon that TTU will now have the Air Force playbook. Oregon running Air Force wasn't horribly wrong ... TTU running Air Force would be really, really bad.

I have a 2nd name if you need me to do it.

[JeffHCross]

I have a 2nd name if you need me to do it.Yeah. I do too, and I think G does as well.

And thanks, Skip.

[skipwondah33]

Jeff I tried logging on and doing it, for some reason I was having issues accessing anything in the OD, the screen would just stay blank. After a while it let me sift through the menus and during the off-season he doesn't let you alter team settings. When I went to audibles though it listed VT's playbook as theirs and defense as the 4-3 which they run.

If it doesn't go back to the same, I'll check back when the season starts and hop on to change everything

[Oneback]

Anyone know of anyone else that would be willing to join and keep up with our schedule. I've sent out a few PM's but haven't heard anything as of yet.

[JeffHCross]

Apparently my per-game attendance average for Ohio State is 13,000 and some change. Teambuilder teams really get treated like they're starting from scratch.

[Oneback]

I would like to welcome RCSinger to Powerhouse, he will be replacing Skip at Va Tech.

[JeffHCross]

OB, before Singer hops onto VT, have him hop onto Texas Tech and see what their playbook is. I'm guessing it'll be Air Force. He could switch it, retire again, and then rejoin as VT.

[Oneback]

I'll do that in a sec with a second name I have since he hasn't joined yet.

[Oneback]

Just remembered after going through the hassle of adding my wife's account to EA and then getting into the OD that we don't have access to change playbooks right now.

I'll have KingPin switch back to TT make the changes then switch back to Oregon.

[gschwendt]

Just remembered after going through the hassle of adding my wife's account to EA and then getting into the OD that we don't have access to change playbooks right now.

I'll have KingPin switch back to TT make the changes then switch back to Oregon.I don't think that will work unless he retires after each switch.

[JeffHCross]

G's right. You have to retire for settings to stay permanent. That's why Guru's Air Force playbook stayed on Oregon, but KingPin's coach & playbook transferred from TTU and to Oregon with him.

And yeah, I totally forgot that we don't have access to that stuff during the offseason. Argh.

[JeffHCross]

Erm ... what the hell is going on ...

I have two dynasties listed on my login screen ... one called "powerhouse2" and one called "wetalkingboutpractice". Both show Recruiting Week 4, TeamBuilder team, and #7 in the nation. I can't log into powerhouse2 (same error as earlier today, "Please try again later") However, I can get into "wetalkingboutpractice". The list of players in 'practice' is the same as our Powerhouse membership ...

[Oneback]

Yeah, Papa got antsy since he's done with recruiting and wanted to start practicing. I told him sure...go ahead.

[texacotea]

see it now, but i could get into the dynasty last night but cant access it now

[gschwendt]

Are we going to do the "Announce Your Playbook" thread this season?

[Iron Dragon]

Landry Jones is looking to break these records this year:

Passing TD (Career) - 84 // Jones: 53
Passing Yards (Career) - 7922 // Jones: 7920.. yes 2 more yards last year and this would be done.. unforently EVERYTIME he throws a pass the announcers will say "by god, he's broke the record (again)"

Jamarkus McFarland will look to break OU's 14 sacks in a season, he had 9 last year.

[psuexv]

Oneback - I'm going to retire after the advance tonight to see if that will fix not being able to access the website. Do you need to reinvite me or can I just join? This one is called PowerhouseOD, correct?

[Oneback]

Thats correct, you just need to retire then do a search and rejoin.

[fsuprime]

rivals 5* LB and nole lock tony steward had a pretty decent game friday night lol

Pretty good day at the office for Steward as Menedez defeated Middleburg 36-15. Steward had 1 rush TD, returned a kick off for TD, and also threw a 52 yard TD. On defense Tony had 20 tackles, two sacks, and one interception

[JeffHCross]

So G and Tex have both retired/rejoined ... yet our number is still at 7. I'm beginning to wonder if this is something we need EA to take a look at.

[Oneback]

I never looked at that anyway, it was never accurate in terms of how many people were ready. I always look at the one inside of the OD.

[texacotea]

rivals 5* LB and nole lock tony steward had a pretty decent game friday night lol

Pretty good day at the office for Steward as Menedez defeated Middleburg 36-15. Steward had 1 rush TD, returned a kick off for TD, and also threw a 52 yard TD. On defense Tony had 20 tackles, two sacks, and one interception

is he a def nole lock? I sure dont want him to go to clemsux

[fsuprime]

yup

[texacotea]

thank u sir

[fsuprime]

hey RC, welcome to the OD, what is your handle?

[Escobar]

is he a def nole lock? I sure dont want him to go to clemsux

Lol. Don't worry. We have enough freshman linebackers this year that are ready to make an impact in the years to come.

[JeffHCross]

FSU, the Ohio State recruiting effort would appreciate it if you would set your gameplan to "injure as many as possible" for your Week 4 contest versus West Virginia. That may be my only hope for a large segment of my board not going to West Virginia after their Week 5 game against the 'Cuse.

[fsuprime]

ill try, im always trying to injure people in this game, i put both airforce's qbs out for the game, but as Marvin Jones said "im still waitin for that perfect hit, where the life flight helicopter lands on the seminole head at midfield."

[psuexv]

FYI guys - psusnoop watched the game between USC and Michigan last night. We used Gmail Video Chat and I just webcamed my TV screen. Snoop said it was decent watching it and we were able to talk throughout and the way he commented on plays it seemed like the feed was pretty smooth. Snoop can you confirm?

I know you can't do a group chat but I wonder if the person videoing can do multiple calls to different people? Maybe something we can test out.

The other nice thing is you don't need a webcam to participate in the chat. Snoop can't get his camera to work but he was still able to view the chat.

[psusnoop]

I can say that the picture was good enough to get a good feel for the game. I noticed no lag at all. It is hard at times to see the ball but for the most part I'm just watching it kind of like a highlight video so it was perfect for that.

I had fun and I'm hoping to have mine working to do the same. It works on 1 of my desktops, but not on my laptop nor on my other desktop. Damn HP webcam.

[psuexv]

I can say that the picture was good enough to get a good feel for the game. I noticed no lag at all. It is hard at times to see the ball but for the most part I'm just watching it kind of like a highlight video so it was perfect for that.



I'm assuming this is the quality of my webcam. It's just one that is built into my netbook so definitely not top end.

[psusnoop]

Mine is really not top end so it might be a little worse once I get it going. regardless though it is still alot of fun to watch.

[fsuprime]

i wonder if i could broadcast a game via my iphone lol

[Oneback]

I'm sure theres an app for that.

[fsuprime]

haha probably, im still just at the tip of the iceberg with this thing, im just happy i can access my stocks anywhere any time now.

what is everyone's thoughts on the USC v Stanford game, im having a hell of a time trying to decide the pickem, USC is getting 9.5 points on my yahoo money pickem league...i think barkley can do some damage vs that stanford secondary

[Oneback]

I think 9.5 is a little much, however if there is anyone in the country that can stop a pro style attack it's Monte Kiffin.

[fsuprime]

yea i like taking usc with 9.5 points, im just worried that they might be on the verge of implosion and the juniors are all thinking of jumping ship to the nfl and preserving their bodies.

so nervous for the damn game tomorrow night :( i really have gotten to the point where i do not enjoy the games vs uf or miami anymore and looking back on it im not sure i ever enjoyed them, just the results lol.

[Oneback]

I think the only UT/OU game I have enjoyed was the 2005 game, although it helps when you win 45-12 after a few of the previous beatdowns they gave us.

[Iron Dragon]

Some thoughts about my Sooners through three games:

Without Broyles, Miller and Trent Ratterree on the team, our leading receiver is true freshman Erik Richardson.

Brennan Clay who had an incredible freshman season is the "forgotten man" as he hasn't broken 100 yards yet as Jermie Calhoun has went crazy.

We haven't completed a pass for more than 25 yards. We haven't attempted all but maybe one, though.

It's fun to spread the ball around to five or six guys instead of just three, a different offense this year.

Oh yeah, Jermie Calhoun has 13 TDs.

And Jamarkus McFarland is constantly double teamed and is sack-less. Meanwhile, other guys are taking the load for sacks.

[fsuprime]

Fuck miami mother fuckers fuck miami fuckem good

[gschwendt]

Looking at next year's depth chart, the Badgers are a bit concerned. At QB I'll be starting a Sophomore or Fr-RS, at O-line, I'll be returning a 94OVR, an 81 OVR (Fr-RS), and then everyone else is currently 73 or below. At LB I'll be returning two 80 LBs, but nothing worthwhile behind that. Currently at SS I have two Sr-RS returning but no one else... I'm thinking I'll probably end up either running a 425 or Nickel-based defense.

Hopefully my recruiting pans out as I'm sure I'll be relying on several fresh faces next year, particularly at Safety.

[skipwondah33]

Damn that safety you swindled from me is rated an 81? lol

[gschwendt]

Damn that safety you swindled from me is rated an 81? lol
He's a 79 actually but will work perfectly as a centerfielder in a 425 or 335 defense, especially with his 98SPD & 98ACC.

[Oneback]

I just have one thing to say......

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

[Papa LoneStar]

I just have one thing to say......

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

Preach!

[psusnoop]

He's a 79 actually but will work perfectly as a centerfielder in a 425 or 335 defense, especially with his 98SPD & 98ACC.

Holy cow, that boy has huge range then. Perfect centerfielder for the Badgers.

[Oneback]

I've got the Michigan/Clemson game done, I just need to render and upload to Youtube so look for that soon. I will start working on the USC and Wisconsin games next.

[psuexv]

I've got the Michigan/Clemson game done, I just need to render and upload to Youtube so look for that soon. I will start working on the USC and Wisconsin games next.

Sweet - I can't wait to rewatch that final 3:00 minutes of our game.

[JeffHCross]

I'm channeling my inner Prime ...

Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo!

[fsuprime]

dear lord baby jesus please let MSU beat uF ;)

[JeffHCross]

dear lord baby jesus please let MSU beat uF ;)Go discuss that elsewhere http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?1048-Week-7-Discussion-(2010) :P

[fsuprime]

hahahahahahhaa fuck uf, im so happy

[fsuprime]

ahhhhh, it feels even better in the morning.

[Papa LoneStar]

lmao @ Prime

[Oneback]

Intercpetions: what are some of you doing to get so many? I see Clemson, Miami and Va Tech are numbers 2, 3 and 5 in the nation with 15, 14 and 13 interceptions but I am sitting here with only 2 thru 7 games.

Looking at the rosters my DB's are just as good as theirs or any in the nation...all of my DB's have a CTH rating in the 60's. My team is in the top 10 in sacks and at the end of the year looks like it might be a top 5 defense in terms of total yards.

I assume that you guys are aggressive on interceptions in gameplanning whereas I am on Normal...thats the only thing I can figure.

[fsuprime]

well miami played me so that is 6 right there ;)

[Oneback]

Good point.

[Iron Dragon]

I think I have like none.

[texacotea]

:)....I have mine set on normal also

[Papa LoneStar]

User picks are your friend

[JeffHCross]

Yeah, I'll say in Papa's case that he has better stick stills of the DBs than anyone else here.

Personally, my DBs were hurt big time by a lack of progression. The only thing I can think of is that because I'm a Teambuilder team I managed to get freshmen that had low potential ratings because of how I moved players around. Otherwise it makes no sense. I have a handful of Juniors who were on my roster as freshmen with 40 AWR, and are now <60. At least one guy was still like 45 AWR.

[Oneback]

I agree that AWR has a lot to do with it atleast if you want the DB to make plays for you, as does SPD, ACC and AGI to just get in place to make the play. However, when playing random online games I am averaging at least 2 user picks a game...I am sure having the INT slider at 35 has a lot to do with that however.

I guess I will need to get some better DB's.

[texacotea]

Having a baby weds. So i will play my game tonight and find time to get next weeks game in.

[Oneback]

Congrats...just let us know what you need and we will work with your schedule.

[psusnoop]

Congrats Tex!

[psuexv]

That's awesome Tex, Congrats!

So how long until there's a junior Powerhouse league for the little ones?

[Oneback]

Shouldn't be too long now. My son is will be 5 in June.

[psuexv]

Mine's 2 1/2 so he'll be a little behind the 8 ball. It'll be ok since he'll be able to step in and beat Snoop's boy.

[psusnoop]

I give little snoop the remote once in a while. Only when I call a running play though. I didn't know how to break it to you but since the topic has been opened up I guess now would be a good time. You know that 61yd rush by Beachum? Yep you guess it that was little snoop, juking your DB so bad his jock strap is still sitting at the 45yd line in Pasadena. :D:D

[texacotea]

well...i have a 3yr old girl, and another female on the way...Im def going to be looking for a male dog to keep me company soon

[Oneback]

LOL - I can only imagine. I told my wife when she got pregnant that if we had a girl I was just going to hand over the wallet and checkbook.

[Kingpin32]

Congrats Tex!

[JeffHCross]

Congrats Tex.

[Oneback]

Let's Go Rangers!

[Kingpin32]

As a Yankee fan, and a Dallas resident, I am a bit torn.

[Oneback]

I don't know if some of you have started to utilize the Spreadsheet of all the prospects that you can download from the OD Website but man does it come in handy. Wish they would have had this at the begining of this season.

[JeffHCross]

I don't know if some of you have started to utilize the Spreadsheet of all the prospects that you can download from the OD Website but man does it come in handy. Wish they would have had this at the begining of this season.If you don't mind sharing at least a little bit, what are you seeing that is advantageous? Obviously the handy information about ATHs is nice, but beyond that I haven't seen anything that significant. It'll be a quicker way for me to look at recruits in the pre-season, but that's about it right now.

[Oneback]

Sharing:


Obviously the handy information about ATHs is nice, but beyond that I haven't seen anything that significant. It'll be a quicker way for me to look at recruits in the pre-season, but that's about it right now.

It would take way too much time to sift through all the recruits on the console/website. In Excel I can sort quickly and find what I am looking for. Albeit they may be already heavily recruited there are a lot of recruits in the lower levels (3-star) that I would've never touched but fit my needs, without this tool I would've never known they were there.

[JeffHCross]

Yeah, it'll definitely be worth looking at next preseason. Though I'm pretty much focusing solely on the Top 10 teams this year. A lot less comparing players, simply because it doesn't matter if I like a guy if I'm not going to be able to get him.

[psusnoop]

I've found you can still crack a top 10 but landing them is a whole nother story. I mean once the CPU picks up that you are going after said recruit they are like a pack of wolves on some of these guys this year. Not always though so you can "steal" one everyonce in awhile.

[Escobar]

Intercpetions: what are some of you doing to get so many? I see Clemson, Miami and Va Tech are numbers 2, 3 and 5 in the nation with 15, 14 and 13 interceptions but I am sitting here with only 2 thru 7 games.

Looking at the rosters my DB's are just as good as theirs or any in the nation...all of my DB's have a CTH rating in the 60's. My team is in the top 10 in sacks and at the end of the year looks like it might be a top 5 defense in terms of total yards.

I assume that you guys are aggressive on interceptions in gameplanning whereas I am on Normal...thats the only thing I can figure.

I run my defense like the Jets/Ravens before that but with a 4-2-5. Or like V-Tech's defense. So I need shut down corners. Since I play alot of man coverage that's the only stat I look at with my corners. But if they can't run they don't play. So the best corner for my system may have the lowest OVR, but on the field could be my best player. Robinson set the school record for INT's in a season last year in his first season starting. And is on pace to shatter the Career Record for INT's. But if I put up that highlight against RC Singer, they make the plays themselves jumping routes when they are in Zone. I have INT's on Aggressive.

[Escobar]

And we also play in the ACC where some of the CPU teams throw alot or use no huddle offensives.

[Oneback]

Does anyone have any experience with CRT Projectors, specifically the Sony VPH-D50HTU. The owner of my company had a lighting strike 2 years ago that knocked out a lot of his home theater equipment and through fighting with the insurance company he just had everything replaced and I am picking this unit up as well as a Faroudja digital video processor for a price I just cannot beat...free.

I know the CRT tubes usually last for about 7-10 years and are $700 a piece to replace, the unit only has 3 years (if that) of use on it. Any other information if you have any would be great.

[JeffHCross]

The only thing that immediately comes to mind about CRT projectors is I seem to recall that burn-in is a major problem. With things like the score bar at the bottom of NCAA, that could be a problem. But that's just off the top of my head and may be completely wrong.

[Oneback]

I'll have to watch for that. I know I will want to try it out as the image size ranges from 60-250 inches. Hopefully the Rangers win the ALCS and I can have this thing setup by the time the World Series starts.

[JeffHCross]

About.com is one of my favorite (read: trustworthy) places to look for "the basics" on subjects I know nothing about. So here you go ... middle of the page or so.

http://hometheater.about.com/cs/television/a/aarearprotv.htm


Limitations Of CRT Video Projection

1. A CRT projection television is rather large. A CRT-based projection television can take up a lot of space, in terms of cabinet depth, not only in comparison to Plasma and LCD flat panel sets, both also in comparison to DLP and LCD rear-projection units.

2. A CRT-based rear-projection television has to be converged properly for best image reproduction. Since the modern CRT-based rear-projection television houses three projection tubes (red, green, and blue), the tubes need to be aligned so that the projected image does not exhibit color halos and the colors are mixed correctly. If one projection tube fails, all three have to be replaced in order to provide the correct color and brightness balance.

3. Although all projection televisions generate some heat, this is a challenge in CRT-based projection sets, due to the fact that three separate projection tubes must be cooled and kept at an even temperature. This is accomplished by liquid gels developed for this purpose. Although very rare, the liquid gels casings can leak, thus causing the television to malfunction.

4. CRT projection televisions are more susceptible to image burn-in from continuously displayed station logos and window box lines resulting from extensive display of 4x3 programming on 16x9 CRT projection sets.

[Oneback]

Here is an image of what I am getting:

http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/VPHD50HTU.jpg

Although from what I am reading it still has all the same characteristics of set top boxes.

[fsuprime]

sweet, hopefully the rangers play the giants, the fighting buster poseys vs the team that beat the team everyone hates :)

btw im going to orlando this weekend for business and pleasure, ill be back sunday.

[HairyDawg]

How do we get on the waitlist for this league?

[Oneback]

How do we get on the waitlist for this league?

http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?385-(PS3)-Powerhouse-Dynasty/

[JeffHCross]

I clearly haven't been on the dynasty in a while. I got 12 dynasty join/leave notifications today.

[Oneback]

So an interesting tidbit I found out last night when catching up on my extended family with my mother. My Uncle's sister-in-law is married to Brian Kelly, the Notre Dame coach.

Time to see if I have an "in" as a graduate assistant.

[Papa LoneStar]

Haha....that's pretty cool

[fsuprime]

i think jacorry harris is dead, i knew miami would make me feel better this weekend 14-0 uva lol

[JeffHCross]

i think jacorry harris is dead, i knew miami would make me feel better this weekend 14-0 uva lolPrime, lol, this is why we have threads like the Week 9 Discussion (http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/showthread.php?1095-Week-9-Discussion-(2010)) thread. :P Go have a life outside the OD forum!

[fsuprime]

its funner here, id rather read our ODs views on weekend action instead of the mouth breathers over there :)

[JeffHCross]

its funner here, id rather read our ODs views on weekend action instead of the mouth breathers over there :)I'm not sure how to take this since when I posted that I had the last post in both threads :D

I'm trying to get more activity in the College Football forum. So go over there :P

[fsuprime]

nah i like that thread to but i feel everyone would be happy knowing jacorry got rocked.

[Oneback]

I just now am able to sit down to watch football/Rangers game. Mother and Sister are on their way back to Michigan and boy am i worn out....lol.

[fsuprime]

im sorry you had to watch football last night, but at least the rangers won.

[Oneback]

Not as bad as the Cowboys game was today. I had Club level tickets and we spent the entire second half in the Club bar, then walked over to Rangers ballpark looking for tickets to tonights game but $400 a piece was a little much for 2nd level tickets. People were asking $2-300 for standing room only.

[JeffHCross]

OB, came across the Coaching Contracts App here (http://www.pocketscout.site90.com/). I thought it might be something cool to consider since we don't have contracts in the OD ...

[Oneback]

I really don't want to do this but if we are unable to pick up the pace after the next advance I am going to start putting deadlines on getting games in before we advance and will only push the date if there are circumstances beyond control. So please let's make a better effort going forward to get the games scheduled/played.

[JeffHCross]

On the upside, it's been 2 (days), 2, 2,4, 2, 6, 3, and 5+ between advance the last 7 weeks. So while a couple of "weeks" ago seemed extraordinarily long, and this week seems that way too ... we're actually still kicking butt, overall.

[Oneback]

I guess your right...I haven't played my game yet but that is only because I knew I didn't have to until at least tonight and I didn't want a long layoff between my last game and our game, due to what riding on a victory for me.

[JeffHCross]

Yeah, I'm still convinced the odds are significantly in your favor so I chose to just play when I had a chance.

Remind me what your "normal" evening schedule is. My parents are coming in tonight, but they often go to bed "early" (compared to me), so that'd be the most likely time to play. But we should be able to play practically any time I'm at home -- they wouldn't balk at it too badly, I don't think.

[Oneback]

Tonight I am playing FSU at 9 in SBCOL, most nights I am available anytime after 9pm (once my son is in bed). If it needs to be played during the day on the weekend I can usually work something out.

[JeffHCross]

Nah, that should be fine. I figure my dad'll be crashing around 10pm eastern most of the nights they're here, so we should be able to find time either way.

[fsuprime]

Arg if we have to lose why cant it be by 10+

[psusnoop]

I feel your pain FSU, but right now I'm flying high after JoePa's 400 win last night. I took the son to the game and he hung tough all day/night till after the JoePa speech, but I want to hear Eric's take on yesterday's afternoon, LMFAO. What a day, LOL

[Oneback]

I've got two words: Texas Longhorns

We are on the verge of a historic collapse in terms of teams coming off a #2 finish/losing in the NC game...

http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2010/11/07/this-is-not-normal/


Let’s be frank about how bad the fall of the 2010 Texas Longhorns really is.

I am not going to make any comment about the team, its two deep, its talent, or development. I will also reserve judgment for now on how atrocious it is to put up a (likely) losing record against one of the weakest schedules that Texas has ever played. And I’m not going to reflect on how bad the losses have been, as this team has been blown out repeatedly by multiple scores.

Let’s just keep it simple and talk about wins and losses.

All I want to focus on is a simple premise: is it common for a team that is nine months removed from playing for a national title to have fallen this far?

The natural answer, whether it be from an angry Texas fan or a casual observer of college football, would be — um, no.

But why leave this observation ambiguous; let’s see if history has proven it out.

74 DATA POINTS IN THE AP POLL

Let’s begin with the formal question: how have previous runners-up (2nd place finishers) in college football performed in their very next season? Bearing in mind college football has historically had a haphazard way of selecting its national champion (especially pre-BCS), the easiest way to try and answer this question systematically is to look at the teams that finish each season in the #2 slot.

Because the AP poll, by far, has the longest track record, I compiled all of the #2 finishers from 1936 to 2009 (Texas was #2 in ’09). I then compiled the winning percentage (giving half a victory for ties) for the #2 finishers in their immediate subsequent season. For instance, 2005 USC (#2 AP) went 11-2 in 2006.

THE OUTPUT

If Texas fails to defeat either Oklahoma State or Texas A&M (which most would put decent odds on at this stage), their 5-7 record (0.417 winning percentage) would be the 70th worst performance out of 74 runners-up since 1936.

It would be the worst finish (and only sub-0.500 record) among #2 teams since Arizona State went 4-7 in 1976.

Michigan State and two service academies (Army/Navy) are the only other instances, and those happened about half a century ago.

The only “modern” comparison would be 1998/99 Ohio State, which went 6-6 in 1999 after an 11-1 season where Ohio State’s national title aspirations were thwarted by Michigan State. This is not a clean comparison, because a) Ohio State did not end up with a losing record in 1999, and b) Ohio State did not play in the national title game in 1998 (Tennessee beat Florida State). Also note that John Cooper was fired one season later (after going 8-4 in 2000).

By the way, the 74-year average (or “normal”) winning percentage has been 0.770 (about 9-3).

THE CONCLUSION

Barring a major recovery to the season where Texas can stun either the Cowboys or Aggies and win a bowl game, this particular collapse of a #2 team is of historic proportions. It is not normal to fall this far this fast. It suggests this is not a normal “cyclical” retrenchment, but something far more serious.

[psusnoop]

Yea I'm sure this is one painful season to watch football for you guys, we've all been there though at one point or another so just know it doesn't last long.

[JeffHCross]

The only “modern” comparison would be 1998/99 Ohio State, which went 6-6 in 1999 after an 11-1 season where Ohio State’s national title aspirations were thwarted by Michigan State. This is not a clean comparison, because a) Ohio State did not end up with a losing record in 1999, and b) Ohio State did not play in the national title game in 1998 (Tennessee beat Florida State). Also note that John Cooper was fired one season later (after going 8-4 in 2000).That's actually a more decent comparison that the blog editor gave it credit for. The 1999 Buckeyes lost a lot of talent to graduation in 1998, much like Texas lost last year. Joe Germaine graduated in 1998, much like Colt McCoy graduated in 2009.

Though at least Garrett Gilbert is a quarterback ... we didn't have one in 1999.

[psuexv]

I feel your pain FSU, but right now I'm flying high after JoePa's 400 win last night. I took the son to the game and he hung tough all day/night till after the JoePa speech, but I want to hear Eric's take on yesterday's afternoon, LMFAO. What a day, LOL

All I can say about it is that it was definitely a first for our tailgate. Any time you can get a 40 year old to take her shirt off it's a good day.

[Oneback]

All I can say about it is that it was definitely a first for our tailgate. Any time you can get a 40 year old to take her shirt off it's a good day.

40-year old...why not go for a great day and get a 20-year old to do it.

[fsuprime]

they are in pennsylvania not texas or florida :)

[Oneback]

Very true...

[psusnoop]

LOL PA isn't Texas or Florida that is for sure. Fun fun day though overall. Wish my friends hadn't jumped ship and bolted on the team though, just when PSU starts to show some leadership. Not saying this weeks game will be close, but PSU is really growing up a little bit these last couple of weeks.

Jeff you have no worries that is for sure.

[JeffHCross]

Jeff you have no worries that is for sure.Yeah, if it was in Happy Valley I might be concerned ... and that walk-on you have is surprisingly impressive. But overall, no worries from me.

[psuexv]

40-year old...why not go for a great day and get a 20-year old to do it.

The 20 year olds stay away from the creepy old guys.

[Papa LoneStar]

I'm sure it was cold outside when that shirt came off....that has to count for something....

[psuexv]

I'm sure it was cold outside when that shirt came off....that has to count for something....

Let's just say you probably could have cut glass with those things. I don't think the cold shot glass between them helped either. :)

[Oneback]

Nice.

[psusnoop]

Our tailgate doesn't pull in many 20yr old's seeing how all but one is married and the ONE that isn't isn't a gamer. Back to back weeks we had him lined up and he bailed. He has been getting jabs all day via emails and I don't see them letting up in this century that is for sure. Oh and it's not Eric either, another friend. Heck my son got booted from the RV for this show, 40 degree weather and this friend has my 4 yr old out in the cold and he didn't step up and do the "right thing"

[fsuprime]

haha, still sounds like u all are a lot of fun before the game!

[psusnoop]

LOL never a dull moment that is for sure. Our 7 weekend a year is something that I'm sure we all look forward to. This MSU game upcoming is going to be all out nuts because thus far this year I don't know that I've gotten plowed yet and I'm due for a bender. Might be a ride up in the RV for Snoop in a few weeks.

[psuexv]

haha, still sounds like u all are a lot of fun before the game!

We definitely try and relive our youth during tailgates.

[psusnoop]

I still can't view my recruiting on the web and the emails for the updates show no players for anyone like Jeff and I had earlier in this season.

I have retired and rejoined once and it didn't help, should I just try that again?


I ask because I actually like to recruit online, :)

[gschwendt]

I don't think you'll be able to this season... I don't think anyone will be able to. Hopefully it fixes itself for next season.

[psusnoop]

OK so long as it just isn't me that can't see everything. I do hope it clears up for next season as well.

[gschwendt]

What would everyone's thoughts be if I decided to use a 6-man OL? I've been experimenting with it in practice mode subbing in a OT for TE, particularly in 3WR sets from the Shotgun. On passing plays, I would hot-route the "TE" to block as I wouldn't use him as a receiver. Granted there would be some formations where I would use a true TE.

Let me know what you think.

[psuexv]

What would everyone's thoughts be if I decided to use a 6-man OL? I've been experimenting with it in practice mode subbing in a OT for TE, particularly in 3WR sets from the Shotgun. On passing plays, I would hot-route the "TE" to block as I wouldn't use him as a receiver. Granted there would be some formations where I would use a true TE.

Let me know what you think.

I would not see a problem with it. It is very common in the pro game now. I've used this type of substitution in the past, especially when I couldn't get a decent TE recruit to come in.

Also I would say he is an eligible receiver and if you wanted to use him to run a route that's your prerogative, not sure how he'd catch though.

[Oneback]

I don't have a problem with it. I had to move an OG to TE last offseason so that I had enough bodies, he's acted as my blocking TE all season long....I've even sent him out on pass routes but I don't think I threw to him even once this season.

[psusnoop]

No issues here and something that I've considered playing with as well, though luckly I have two very good blocking TE's right now that play above their attributes.

[Oneback]

COD: Black Ops, who has it? I am thinking about picking this up tonight.

[psuexv]

COD: Black Ops, who has it? I am thinking about picking this up tonight.

LOL - I was just at Best Buy and had it in my hand but put it back. If a couple of people have it I'd pick it up.

I actually thought about grabbing Madden as well if that $20 deal that JB posted is legit. Just not sure if I'd have that time.

[texacotea]

COD: Black Ops, who has it? I am thinking about picking this up tonight.

Got it, pretty good I dont let the little things ruin a game for me so I havent had much to complain about other that the party system.

[Oneback]

I am going to pick it up tonight as everyone at the office has it and we tend to play a lot...dosn't help productivity the next day but I wanted to see who else on here has is. I think Prime does.

[Kingpin32]

I've been thinking about getting it, I may see what the price is looking like on Black Friday.

[psusnoop]

Hey guys, Eric and I have been talking about starting up another Online Dynasty with Mid Tier teams along the lines of a Baylor, Iowa State and such and I wanted to let you guys know in case anyone was interested.

[psuexv]

I've been thinking about getting it, I may see what the price is looking like on Black Friday.

I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. Just got off the phone with GameStop and they'll give me $22 for Uncharted 2 so I'm jumping on it.

[fsuprime]

yea been playing for a few nights, everyone and their mother is using the ak74 sub machine gun :/ but it is a lot of fun, and i suck compared to how good i was at mw2 lol...i think it is cause i have not played mw2 since march.

maps seem to be designed well, but i think being in a party is much more important in this one, in the other one i could carry a domination map myself, in this one u need at least 2 ppl who know what they are doing and probably 3 is better.

[Oneback]

Hey guys, Eric and I have been talking about starting up another Online Dynasty with Mid Tier teams along the lines of a Baylor, Iowa State and such and I wanted to let you guys know in case anyone was interested.

I would be interested...but I'll need to think about it. With Powerhouse, SBCOL and Black Ops all my time may be taken up. I guess it depends on how quickly you want to advance weeks.

[HairyDawg]

Hey guys, Eric and I have been talking about starting up another Online Dynasty with Mid Tier teams along the lines of a Baylor, Iowa State and such and I wanted to let you guys know in case anyone was interested.

Hey snoop I'm interested. I'm currently Memphis in the SBCOL and I'm waiting to get into Powerhouse.

[psusnoop]

Like I was telling Papa who also is interested as is Jeff I'm not looking at blazing fast advances by any means. Papa would like to keep user games to no more then 3 a year which I can easily do for him as well with his schedule. Eric and I are going to probably drop out of the other 2 that we are in since it is just a cheese filled league with some close friends, LOL. We just wanted something else that we can semi build a team with.

I know Eric is liking Iowa State for example
then Papa mentioned something like moving SMU into the Big 12 which I'm all for as well.

I'm kinda torn on teams and I'll probably just wait a little bit to see where everyone falls and fill in any gaps. We don't have to all be in the same conferences either, but I'd like 3 in each one at a min.

HairyDawg is interested as stated above (I sent you a private message) so if Oneback is interested as well that will give us 6 thus far.

[psusnoop]

I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. Just got off the phone with GameStop and they'll give me $22 for Uncharted 2 so I'm jumping on it.

Sweet that is a good deal, I would do the same.

[Papa LoneStar]

I'm really lovin' Black OPS....that story is VERY nice....I enjoyed the MW2 story, but this one is on another level. I've been searching on the internet and couldn't find an answer. So would you COD vets school me on that JFK visit....something very quick and VERY weird happened that caught me by surprise.

[Escobar]

Hey guys, Eric and I have been talking about starting up another Online Dynasty with Mid Tier teams along the lines of a Baylor, Iowa State and such and I wanted to let you guys know in case anyone was interested.

I'd be interested.

[Oneback]

Like I was telling Papa who also is interested as is Jeff I'm not looking at blazing fast advances by any means. Papa would like to keep user games to no more then 3 a year which I can easily do for him as well with his schedule. Eric and I are going to probably drop out of the other 2 that we are in since it is just a cheese filled league with some close friends, LOL. We just wanted something else that we can semi build a team with.

I know Eric is liking Iowa State for example
then Papa mentioned something like moving SMU into the Big 12 which I'm all for as well.

I'm kinda torn on teams and I'll probably just wait a little bit to see where everyone falls and fill in any gaps. We don't have to all be in the same conferences either, but I'd like 3 in each one at a min.

HairyDawg is interested as stated above (I sent you a private message) so if Oneback is interested as well that will give us 6 thus far.

I'd be down for it...throw out what rosters and what guidlines we need to limit our team to and I'll start searching for a team.

[psusnoop]

Sweet that will work Escobar. I will get things rolling in motion here

[psusnoop]

Sweet Oneback, will let you know in a few minutes let me look at some things to be sure

[psusnoop]

Look for teams under 85 ovr I guess would be a good spot since Iowa State is an 83ovr and SMU is a 78ovr

Eric- Iowa State
Papa- SMU (I think) moving into big 12
Escobar
Oneback
JeffHCross
HairyDawg
XGridIronGuruX
psusnoop

These are the teams thus far, just sending a private message to CDJ to get our own dynasty page

[psuexv]

we using IDs rosters? I say we use the Powerhouse sliders.

[JeffHCross]

Snoop, on second thought, I'll pass. I should probably not spend even more time on this game ;)

[psusnoop]

OK just let me know if you want in at any point it's open for you.

[psusnoop]

Yes on Powerhouse sliders and I think we'll use the latest ID roster set

[psuexv]

I can't believe Jeff is backing out. :(

[JeffHCross]

I can't believe Jeff is backing out. :(Well that's a guilt trip if I've ever heard one :D :D :D

[psusnoop]

We r not going to be flying in this one so u should be in and have fun with it, lol

[psuexv]

Well that's a guilt trip if I've ever heard one :D :D :D

I have no idea what you are talking about ;)

[psusnoop]

Here is the new forum for the Mid-Tier Dynasty


http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?40-Mid-Tier-Dynasty-%28PS3%29

[psusnoop]

Seeing everyone playing COD last night online made me want to go grab a copy right then and there. How is the game for those that played it?

[fsuprime]

its harder than mw2, smaller hit boxes and slower changes for actions like sprinting and throwing a grenade or laying down a claymore so u are exposed a lot longer if u choose to do those things.

[psusnoop]

I might have to grab this and claim early christmas gift for myself, LOL. Especially seeing you all having it online yesterday, made me want to grab a copy and starting hammering on you all.

The only problem is that everytime I buy a different game, I find myself never playing it as much because I just love NCAA and if I'm waiting on an advance I just practice things or try unlocking trophies. Decisions decisions decisions........

[fsuprime]

i think i played mw2 for like 6 months or so, it was a lot of fun and a nice break from ncaa, at this point in the year i usually only play my OD games for ncaa anymore, and i just finished fall out new vegas so im ready for online killing :)

papa and i need to get better at team death match, we got rocked yesterday afternoon...im more of a domination player though so i dont play very well in other game types.

[Oneback]

I think I got you twice last night Prime...not that I was seeking you out or anything. I am super rusty right now, not that I was ever a great COD player anyway.

[fsuprime]

yea the first time i was trying to drop a claymore and couldnt get my weapon up, 2nd time u got me clean ;)