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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    But what if they were the best 4 teams? Do we want the best 4 teams or the best 4 champs?
    If you didn't win your conference, you obviously aren't better than someone who did win their conference. We're talkin' about the difference between a team with 0 loses versus a team with one loss. 0 loss team should ALWAYS be picked ahead of 1 loss team. I don't give a damn if it's Toledo with an undefeated season where they played nothing but MAC teams and Div 2 schools. They went undefeated and they deserve their chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    If you didn't win your conference, you obviously aren't better than someone who did win their conference. We're talkin' about the difference between a team with 0 loses versus a team with one loss. 0 loss team should ALWAYS be picked ahead of 1 loss team. I don't give a damn if it's Toledo with an undefeated season where they played nothing but MAC teams and Div 2 schools. They went undefeated and they deserve their chance.
    LOL! Alabama begs to differ.

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    Well, Alabama should have beat them to begin with. They had their chance so too fuckin' bad for them because, otherwise, last season didn't matter at all. It was LSU and Alabama after about half of the season was over with. What was the point of the rest of the season?

    Season is TOTALLY different if their first game actually meant something, but it didn't, thus the UTTER bullshit that was last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Well, Alabama should have beat them to begin with. They had their chance so too fuckin' bad for them because, otherwise, last season didn't matter at all. It was LSU and Alabama after about half of the season was over with. What was the point of the rest of the season?

    Season is TOTALLY different if their first game actually meant something, but it didn't, thus the UTTER bullshit that was last season.
    And here it was "oh heaven forbid" back in 2006 with the potential Ohio State-Michigan rematch. But then you go to last year, "eh, oh well". I'm fucking sick of this fucking bias bullshit with the conferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Who really honors a contract now a days
    Insurance Agents?

    Oh wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    ^^^^

    I would HATE to be on the selection committee for THAT!
    SBNation's Bill C broke down what the selection committee would have been faced with, 1998-2011. A very interesting read. Very few years that it's "easy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    SBNation's Bill C broke down what the selection committee would have been faced with, 1998-2011. A very interesting read. Very few years that it's "easy".
    Someone is ALWAYS on the outside looking in. When we eventually get to 8, number 9 and 10 are gonna be pissed as well.

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    The further I get into this book, the more it convinces me that a 16-team playoff is the way to go. All the conference winners and 5 at-large bids (and if the WAC ceases to exist, 10&6). Higher seeds get home field through the semi's with the NC game being bid out anywhere (Hello Jerry World!). Whomever is not in the playoffs can play in bowl games.
    Last edited by souljahbill; 06-25-2012 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Someone is ALWAYS on the outside looking in. When we eventually get to 8, number 9 and 10 are gonna be pissed as well.
    So what ?

    8 Is infinitely more realistic then 4 any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    So what ?

    8 Is infinitely more realisic then 4 any day.
    Realistic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Realistic?
    To get a realistic national champion? Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Realistic?

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    So with 4, it's imaginary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    So with 4, it's imaginary?
    no, there is just obviously less debate with 8 teams as opposed to 4. Its simply alot closer to the truth than 4 teams would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    So with 4, it's imaginary?
    With 4 teams, you still have 2007 and 2008 with a team that theoretically has every right to be in the mix for the championship as the top 4 did.

    With 8 teams, you get EVERYONE that deserves to be in those talks participating in a playoff that gives those teams a REAL chance to winning the national championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    With 4 teams, you still have 2007 and 2008 with a team that theoretically has every right to be in the mix for the championship as the top 4 did.

    With 8 teams, you get EVERYONE that deserves to be in those talks participating in a playoff that gives those teams a REAL chance to winning the national championship.
    There's no way EVERYONE will be happy with 8. You're never going to eliminate the argument. You're only going to change it cause I guarantee you, 1-5 will be easier then 6-8 and #9 and 10 are gonna be pissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    There's no way EVERYONE will be happy with 8. You're never going to eliminate the argument. You're only going to change it cause I guarantee you, 1-5 will be easier then 6-8 and #9 and 10 are gonna be pissed.
    sure 9-10 would bitch but so what? Very simple = 8 is better then 4 and closer to the truth. At some point there may well be a top 20 but until then, 4 has to start it but/and 8 would still be better LOL

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    The argument is minuscule when you include 8 teams. The argument basically would go from deserving teams not getting in to teams feeling like they are snubbed because conferences would be fighting over how many teams they could get in at a time.

    Just looking at 2011 and 2010's breakdowns, there would be some INCREDIBLY interesting football to be played in the playoffs:

    2011:


    #1 LSU (13-0) vs #8 Kansas State (10-2)
    #2 Alabama (11-1) vs #7 Boise State (11-1)
    #3 Oklahoma State (11-1) vs #6 Arkansas (10-2)
    #4 Stanford (11-1) vs #5 Oregon (11-2)


    2010:


    #1 Auburn (13-0) vs #8 Arkansas (10-2)
    #2 Oregon (12-0) vs #7 Oklahoma (11-2)
    #3 TCU (13-0) vs #6 Ohio State (11-1)
    #4 Stanford (11-1) vs #5 Wisconsin (11-1)

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    Now list the people left OUT the playoffs.

    That's what I'm arguing. Not how many teams are in but that no matter how many teams you put in, there will ALWAYS be someone who deserves a shot that'll be left out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Now list the people left OUT the playoffs.

    That's what I'm arguing. Not how many teams are in but that no matter how many teams you put in, there will ALWAYS be someone who deserves a shot that'll be left out.
    They should win more games more regularly.

    It's better than the bullshit bowl system now that's developed by a bunch of pussy feel good fuckers that make money off of schools being too pussy to tell their team that they fuckin' suck and should play better instead of being happy about 6-6. How totally fucked is that principle when you're trying to help these kids build something for their life? You aren't a fuckin' winner at 6-6 and most definitely shouldn't deserve a reward for being 6-6.

    Therefore, if you're left out of a 8 team playoff, I think it's time to do something about winning more games.

    Now, if it's like 2007 or something where Boise State went undefeated and they would have gotten left out, well, that's god damn bullshit, but that's the biases of the poll system.

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