Dynasty - What You Need to Know (by JeffHCross)

[JeffHCross]

I planned to do this over a week ago, but you guys all know about me and my master plans. This thread is designed for impressions, things I notice, etc while going through dynasty mode. Initially I'm going to do CPU simulations to test out the Coaching Carousel and see what kind of results I can get.

This is not a Question and Answer thread. If you have a question about something I've posted, feel free to ask it -- I don't mind clarifying. However, I ask that any other questions go to the Dynasty & Coaching Carousel Q&A thread.

[JeffHCross]

First up ... how to setup a multi-team offline dynasty ...

I've seen the question asked several times: Yes, you can still play as multiple teams in a single offline dynasty. However, there are a couple of things you'll need to know before diving in.

1. For Offline Dynasties, only your first coach can "Use Existing Coach". I do not see any way to switch additional coaches to user control. It may be there, but, if it is, it's not obvious. So you can either have 1 existing coach plus X new coaches, or X new coaches in a multi-team offline dynasty.

2. The initial setup will be like you're doing a single-team dynasty. You'll create (or choose to use existing) your first coach, then do any pre-dynasty steps like Custom Conferences or Importing Teambuilder schools, then proceed into dynasty. Once in dynasty you'll go to the new "Coach Central" category and choose the "Coach Info" option. That's where you can customize existing coaches, or add new ones.

3. Any newly created coaches, within Dynasty, are assumed to be user coaches. However, after creating the coach you can select them and choose "Make CPU Controlled".

4. Age and Specialty are not set during creation. You'll have to edit the coach after creation to change these.

5. Prestige and Job Security are not editable within dynasty. You'll be starting at D+ prestige.

[JeffHCross]

Next I'll be doing some CPU simulations of Offline Dynasty to see how job offers and the like go for coaches of different levels.

For this test I have modified the Mountain West to a 12-team conference. BYU and Utah have returned, along with the addition of Nevada and Fresno State.

The conference has been split into two divisions (essentially MWC vs WAC + BYU/Utah):

Mountain	West
Air Force	Boise State
Colorado St	BYU
New Mexico	Fresno St
TCU		Nevada
UNLV		San Diego St
Wyoming		Utah

Here are the existing coaches and the details I considered pertinent for this test:

TCU is under user control, but I will be not be modifying anything and will be letting the CPU control my team (other than in Coaching Carousel).

[JeffHCross]

When you're given a Contract Offer in the Carousel, you'll have several options.

• View Contract - View the contract offer, and then decide if you want to sign it
• Decline Contract - Declines just this individual offer, without viewing the contract
• Stay with current contract - Declines this offer, and any subsequent offers, while you still can go through the Carousel to see who else is hired.
• Cancel - Just returns you to the previous screen

[jaymo76]

When you're given a Contract Offer in the Carousel, you'll have several options.

• View Contract - View the contract offer, and then decide if you want to sign it
• Decline Contract - Declines just this individual offer, without viewing the contract
• Stay with current contract - Declines this offer, and any subsequent offers, while you still can go through the Carousel to see who else is hired.
• Cancel - Just returns you to the previous screen

So for clarity Jeff, if you view a contract but then press cancel (not decline) is there a time limit you have to sign or can you wait for a better offer and if none comes along, sign the original contract.

[JeffHCross]

So for clarity Jeff, if you view a contract but then press cancel (not decline) is there a time limit you have to sign or can you wait for a better offer and if none comes along, sign the original contract.

As far as I can tell, the offers are processed sequentially. You don't have the ability to consider multiple offers.

As far as I can tell.

[jaymo76]

As far as I can tell, the offers are processed sequentially. You don't have the ability to consider multiple offers.

As far as I can tell.

That's too bad because if you're a top end coach you should be in demand and be flooded with offers all at the same time. Oh well, mabe next year. Thanks for the clarity.

[JeffHCross]

Year 1 Results. The Job Security percentage was taken during the End of Bowl Weeks week. I don't have the ability to look at other contracts after that point, so the numbers may have changed during the advance to the offseason (as I discussed above).

2011	Record	Bowl Result	Prestige	Job Security	Result
Air Force	7-6	Lost, Armed Forces	B+	60%	
BYU	5-7		A	66%	
Boise	13-1	Win, Sugar	A+	84%	Early Extension
Colorado St	8-5	Win, New Mexico	B	86%	
Fresno St	5-7		C+	57%	Contact Extension
Nevada	11-2	Win, Poinsettia Bowl	A+	80%	
New Mexico	3-9		D	20%	Fired. Replaced by Troy DC.
San Diego St	8-5	Win, Hawai'i	D+	84%	
TCU	11-2	Win, Maaco	A+	66%	
UNLV	1-11		D	63%	
Utah	10-3	Win, Independence	A+	77%	
Wyoming	2-10		D	53%

[Dr Death]

When you're given a Contract Offer in the Carousel, you'll have several options.

• View Contract - View the contract offer, and then decide if you want to sign it
• Decline Contract - Declines just this individual offer, without viewing the contract
• Stay with current contract - Declines this offer, and any subsequent offers, while you still can go through the Carousel to see who else is hired.
• Cancel - Just returns you to the previous screen

Jeff, can you clarify something for me? When Ben H. was talking about this in one of the videos he stated that you could "look at a team's offer and then look at their roster..."

I don't see that listed in what you have detailed. So for me... which I know is the exception, I play 5-Wide and need at least 9 WR's... preferably 10-12 since I sub out at 80% to keep the guys on the field "fresh." My question though is this... do we have the ability to look at a proposing teams roster? Because I cannot accept a job if a team only has 7 WR's on it. And nobody should be expected to accept an offer blindly... ie; having no idea who is on the team's roster.

Just wanting clarification on this and if it's been talked about before, then I missed it, other than the video w/ Ben.

[JeffHCross]

Goals appear to be primarily processed at the end of the season, during the transition from the regular-season to the offseason. So even if you utterly fail at a goal during the season (such as "beat a rival opponent each season"), you won't see it marked as a failure until the season progresses to the offseason.

[JeffHCross]

And here's how things stand at the beginning of Year 2. The interesting things to note are that Boise, Fresno and New Mexico all went to ~57%. That seems to be the default amount of job security for a new contract. Also note that New Mexico's Coach Rating (which may or may not be linked to Prestige, I'm not sure right now) is at a B+. I believe that was the rating of the Defensive Coordinator that was hired. So you don't take a hit in prestige for going from OC/DC to HC.


Colorado State will be interesting to watch going forward. With only 1 In-Progress goal remaining, has his rating peaked, or will results allow it to continue to move up?

[jcarne7]

Were there any major coaching changes outside your conference?

[JeffHCross]

Okay, here's one. If you have a goal to "Win 100% of your rivalry games in one season", make sure you schedule your rivals, lol. My TCU team did not play all three rivals (SMU, Baylor, BYU) in one season a single time, so I failed the goal.

[Cipher 8]

Okay, here's one. If you have a goal to "Win 100% of your rivalry games in one season", make sure you schedule your rivals, lol. My TCU team did not play all three rivals (SMU, Baylor, BYU) in one season a single time, so I failed the goal.

IMO that needs to be patched. You should not have to change your schedule like that to accomplish a goal, it should recognize which rivals you have on your schedule aka which ones your playing only. One of you should bring that up with them.

[JeffHCross]

One of you should bring that up with them.

I'll consider it, but it's been that way for a while, so I respectfully disagree on this one. You just didn't see contract goals on Online Dynasties, so most people didn't notice it.

If you think about it, it does make some level of sense to force us to schedule all rivals if we want to meet 100%. Otherwise you could "only" schedule your easiest rival and get an easy goal completed.

[JeffHCross]

Post Year 2 results. Wow, look at New Mexico.

New Mexico's coach failed all 8 goals -- I guess maybe you don't have to wait until after the season for some goals to register as failed (may be tied to length of contract). Here were his goals:

• Win 4 games in one season (<<<<<<)
• Finish 6th or better each season (<<<<)
• Sign 1 Top 1000 prospect in one regular season (<<<<)
• Sign a Top 100 recruiting class in one regular season (<<<)
• Win 25% of your games in one season (<)
• Win 100% of your rivalry games in one season (No penalty)
• Win 8 games in one season (No penalty)
• Sign 5 2-star prospects in one regular season (No penalty)

[JeffHCross]

Were there any major coaching changes outside your conference?

Here's the Head Coach changes.


There were a lot of OC and DC moves. And 8-10 head coaches had their existing contracts extended.

[jaymo76]

Here's the Head Coach changes.


There were a lot of OC and DC moves. And 8-10 head coaches had their existing contracts extended.

JeffH, what would be interesting is to see what happens to all of these coaches listed? Did they all get hired and if so what position/school? Also, if say the RICE HC didn't land a job does he dissapear from existence or could he could back a year or more down the road. Are you able to see/track this type of info???

[JeffHCross]

JeffH, what would be interesting is to see what happens to all of these coaches listed? Did they all get hired and if so what position/school? Also, if say the RICE HC didn't land a job does he dissapear from existence or could he could back a year or more down the road. Are you able to see/track this type of info???

You're able to see it all, though I think (generally) it'll be up to you to track it. That I can immediately see, there's nowhere in the dynasty which tracks that level of information. During the Carousel itself, the game tells you where an outgoing coach went, and where the incoming coach came from. Outside of Carousel, I'm not aware of it being tracked.

In general, the fired HCs were hired as OCs or DCs at other schools. As far as I recall, there were no HCs that ended up as HCs elsewhere, in either season. There were a few coaches that appeared to not get hired elsewhere (though I've been told this will not happen to user coaches, just the occasional CPU coach).

[JeffHCross]

But can you see all coaches/contracts during the regular season?

Yep. You have to view their contract individually, which is a tedious process, but all the information is there. That's how I know how many goals are met, failed, and in-progress at the beginning of each season.

That's my thought process as well. I think it doesn't update until the beginning of the 2nd season or sometime during the simulation between the end of season and beginning of season (when the game chooses new goals and such for you to complete).

Agreed. Though, one point on your comment ... the game doesn't choose new goals every offseason. Only when your contract is extended or you receive a new one. Otherwise your goals are for the life of your contract. Which means you will get into situations where you only have one goal to meet. Though, if you're doing well at meeting goals that shouldn't be a problem as you should have a handful of "each season" goals to meet.