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Use this thread to discuss slider adjustments in FIFA 13.
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I've spent the evening adjusting sliders and playing half matches to try them out.
I got a few of my basic sliders from Orion at OS, so I want to be sure he gets credit. That said, he is obviously more skilled than I am at FIFA so my current set doesn't really resemble his that much.
Here is what I have:
Controls
Auto Switching: Air Balls
Move Assistance: High
Passing Power Assistance: Off
Pass Assistance: Semi
Through Pass Assistance: Assisted
Shot Assistance: Semi
Cross Assistance: Semi
Lob Pass Assistance: Assisted
Save Assistance: Semi
Analog Sprint: On
Defending: Tactical Defending
Game Settings
Match
Half Length: 15
Difficulty Level: World Class
Referee: Random
Game Speed: Slow
Ball: Default
Rules
Set ALL to On (Handball is Off by default)
Gameplay Customization
(User/CPU)
Sprint Speed: 39/39
Acceleration: 42/42
Shot Error: 93/70
Pass Error: 40/60
Shot Speed: 48/48
Pass Speed: 48/48
Injury Frequency: 53/53
Injury Severity: 50/50
Goalkeeper Ability: 70/65
Marking: 85/81
Run Frequency: 15/15
Line Height: 49/49
Line Length: 44/44
Line Width: 42/42
Fullback Positioning: 50/50
Power Bar: 58/--
First Touch Control Error: 71/71
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I'm going to tune the sliders above by playing clubs against themselves to see how the stats come out.
My first match was Chelsea vs Chelsea. I was the home club. The match ended in a 1-1 draw. Here are the numbers:
(User/CPU)
Shots: 15/19
SOT: 4/5
Possession: 47/53
Tackles: 6/30
Fouls: 5/4
Yellows: 2/0
Reds: 0/0
Injuries: 0/2
Offside: 1/0
Corners: 6/5
Shot Accuracy %: 26/26
Pass Accuracy %: 75/75
As you can see, everything is pretty damn close, except for Tackles. I'll have to work on that. I need Shot% to be around 33% (across all clubs, as a total - Chelsea should be shooting better) and Pass% to be around 81%. Overall though, pretty damn good for the little amount of adjusting that I've done.
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I got a half in as Tottenham vs Tottenham. I didn't write the numbers down, but I was up 1-0. Everything was extremely even again and Possession was 51/49 for the CPU (the home side).
I do remember that Tackles were 15/8 for the CPU which, while not ideal, is certainly better than the last match.
I think I've got a great starting point for my Career Mode. I'm going to play a bit more tomorrow, focusing on tweaking shooting and passing accuracies. Hopefully, by Thursday, I can get my career underway.
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I made some small tweaks to Pass Error and Shot Error and got very undesirable results.
I played as the visiting side in an Everton vs Everton match and won, 5-1. Back to the drawing board, lol.
The good news is that the CPU took 3 Yellows in the match. :nod:
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It's kinda odd how other people's sliders work well in NCAA, but not for me in FIFA. I've played about 4 or 5 matches on what I have so far and am really happy with what I got.
I just played a half of Norwich vs Norwich and there were 3 bookings in the half.
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I just lost, at Old Trafford, as Reading. United took it to me, 3-0. The match felt just as I would expect it to given the matchup. I was dominated, but not in a cheap way at all.
Here's the numbers:
Manchester United/Reading
Shots: 22/6
SOT: 11/1
Possession: 54/46
Tackles: 25/18
Fouls: 2/2
Cards: 0/0
Injuries: 1/1
Offsides: 0/0
Corners: 4/1
SA%: 50/16
PA%: 86/68
I wanted to play one as a heavy underdog to see what the results would be like. I'm going to update the second post with my current sliders (not final, of course).
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Steeler, I see you are getting a few cards. Do you think it's more SLIDERS/DIFFICULTY SETTING/TIME/STYLE OF PLAY??? or a combination of all? I have looked at your stats and they look good but foul and cards are too low still IMO as compared to say a typical MLS match. I really wish that FIFA would add a PENALTY slider. I personally love the strategy that comes in with a lot of cards against your team.
I think it's really just better decisions by the refs. Obviously, 15-minute halves are important too. The more time you play, the greater the number of potential bookings will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
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I played my first match in Manager Mode. I'm starting at Houston, again. I lost the opener at Chivas, 4-1. The match was closer than the scoreline indicates, I conceded 2 goals on Penalties. One at 76' and one at 90'.
The numbers....
Chivas USA/Houston
Shots 16/8
SOT 9/2
Possession 50/50
Tackles 26/12
Fouls 5/6
Yellow 0/2
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/3
Offsides 0/0
Corners 1/2
SA% 56/25
PA% 77/77
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I lost my second match, again conceding a penalty, at San Jose, 3-2. It's only 2 matches, but if this scoring keeps up, I will have to consider raising Goalkeeping while I'm in the lower leagues.
SJ/Hou
Shots 11/17
SOT 4/11
Possession 53/47
Tackles 32/11
Fouls 1/7
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/2
Offsides 1/0
Corners 0/5
SA% 36/64
PA% 80/78
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I've lowered Injury Frequency to 55/55 after having 4 players out after just 2 matches. Obviously, the tuning of the Impact Engine has resulted in more injuries. I believe, last year I had this set at 63.
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I finally got my first win of the season, beating Seattle, 2-1.
Sea/Hou
Shots 13/21
SOT 8/7
Possession 50/50
Tackles 18/18
Fouls 3/2
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 1/0
Offsides 1/0
Corners 3/4
SA% 61/33
PA% 77/69
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My fourth match got out of hand late. I conceded goals in the 83', 86', and 90' to lose, 4-2, at Chicago.
Chi/Hou
Shots 19/10
SOT 11/5
Possession 60/40
Tackles 14/39
Fouls 5/1
Yellow 1/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 0/0
Corners 4/3
SA% 57/50
PA% 91/74
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After allowing a late goal (89'), I drew a penalty in stoppage time, and converted with Brad Davis, to earn a 2-2 draw at Columbus.
Col/Hou
Shots 11/17
SOT 7/6
Possession 58/42
Tackles 16/17
Fouls 3/5
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/2
Offsides 0/0
Corners 1/4
SA% 63/35
PA% 84/76
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After another loss, 3-1 at DC, I'm going to lower Shot Accuracy for both the User and CPU. I'm also going back to default for Injury Frequency and Severity. The injuries are piling up right now.
The DC numbers...
DC/Hou
Shots 15/15
SOT 8/7
Possession 54/46
Tackles 20/15
Fouls 6/4
Yellow 1/2
Red 0/0
Injuries 2/2
Offsides 2/0
Corners 7/4
SA% 53/46
PA% 84/79
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The little changes didn't seem to help as I got plowed at New York, 5-1.
NY/Hou
Shots 16/18
SOT 9/10
Possession 46/54
Tackles 22/16
Fouls 1/4
Yellow 0/1
Red 0/0
Injuries 2/0
Offsides 0/1
Corners 4/1
SA% 56/55
PA% 80/82
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After a horrendous 1-1-5 start to the season, I finally got to play a match at home. I beat DC, 1-0.
Hou/DC
Shots 16/14
SOT 8/3
Possession 43/57
Tackles 19/24
Fouls 6/4
Yellow 2/2
Red 0/1
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 0/2
Corners 4/5
SA% 50/21
PA% 77/87
I got booked for creeping my wall forward on a Free Kick.
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I'm going to raise User GK Ability. I seem to have the SA % in check, but I'm seeing too many goals against me. I just lost to Portland, 4-1 at home.
Hou/Por
Shots 10/16
SOT 3/6
Possession 49/51
Tackles 11/29
Fouls 5/3
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 0/0
Corners 2/1
SA% 30/37
PA% 81/84
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Finally some cards being thrown around. Was this a violent game or was the ref just calling everything???Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
I'm assuming steeler is playing with refs set to random, so probably a mix of his sliders and having a Strict/Strict rated ref for the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
Both. I would suggest that you always use a strict referee. I don't, because I like the variety, but it would definitely give you better results.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
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Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
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Yeah, I think I had either an average or lenient ref in my one match yesterday. I'm gonna play a match here in a bit with the Rapids and some other MLS squad, play on a more equal level matchup this time, and try with a strict ref, see how I end up doing. Ultimately, I'm planning on going with refs set to random when I start my career, because, like you, I like the variety from match to match.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
This is more like it. Got a draw at New England, 1-1.
NE/Hou
Shots 13/17
SOT 5/8
Possession 51/49
Tackles 24/7
Fouls 5/3
Yellow 0/2
Red 0/0
Injuries 1/2
Offsides 0/0
Corners 1/5
SA% 38/47
PA% 79/72
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Me thinks the strict refs are going to slaughter me. Just played a match as Colorado vs. Portland. Gonna have a lot of slider work to do. Steeler, will your sliders still work pretty good on Semi-pro level? If not, I'm gonna have a lot of work ahead to get decent sliders worked out. Results from my match:
Colorado/Portland
Goals 5/0
Shots 15/0
SOT 8/1
Possession 47/53
Tackles 25/17
Fouls 7/3
Yellow 4/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 1/0
Offsides 1/0
Corners 1/1
SA% 53/20
PA% 64/73
Counterattacks and stolen throw-ins are my savior. 3 goals came on counterattacks, and the other two came from stealing a throw-in in my territory and proceeding to sprint my way into a numbers advantage, often 4 or 5 on 2 or 3. Ultimately, from where I stand on these first draft sliders right now, CPU GK ability has to go up, User shot error has to go up, lower CPU shot error and maybe give the CPU a boost in sprint speed. Regardless, I know I've got a long way to go to working these sliders out to match my ability level and keep them realistic.
Nah, they won't work on other skill levels. I would suggest you try Pro. Semi is way too easy.
You can use the non-skill sliders of mine like speed, acceleration, and positioning. Those should work universally.
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Got a 3-1 win over LA. I had 3 PKs in the match (converted 2) and they converted their only one.
Hou/LA
Shots 14/14
SOT 8/4
Possession 49/51
Tackles 15/30
Fouls 6/5
Yellow 1/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/1
Offsides 0/0
Corners 0/1
SA% 57/28
PA% 77/77
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Alright, I'll set those sliders up and I'll give Pro a try.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
When I got through all the first time menus and got into the game, it had me set up on Semi (whether it detected and set that from my time playing FIFA 10, or my account settings or however it set that), so being the first time I've played a true game of soccer since FIFA 10, I stuck with it, especially since I'm still very very rusty with my skills and on the pitch. There have even been a couple times while screwing around in the practice arena, that I forget which button is the button to shoot. :fp:
I'm playing on 10 minute halves right now, I may eventually bump up to 15, but so far 10 has worked pretty well.
I understand, Smooth. Last year was the first FIFA title I played since the Genesis days. But, after about 10 games in career, it was painfully obvious that I couldn't "slider" the AI into competitiveness on Semi. Just a suggestion, start with Pro and make the sliders help you be competitive.
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I got another win as Cam Weaver hammered home the winner in the 87'. Houston over Vancouver, 2-1.
Van/Hou
Shots 9/16
SOT 2/6
Possession 47/53
Tackles 17/15
Fouls 2/4
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/1
Offsides 0/0
Corners 1/9
SA% 22/37
PA% 78/79
The announcers also mentioned that it was one of the player's birthday. Never heard that before.
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I conceded the lone goal of the match in the 89', losing at home to Dallas, 1-0. I had my chances, even after falling behind, but I couldn't finish.
Hou/Dal
Shots 17/10
SOT 2/3
Possession 46/54
Tackles 20/23
Fouls 1/4
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 1/1
Corners 4/1
SA% 11/30
PA% 85/89
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Jaymo will appreciate the numbers from this blood bath. I drew with Toronto, 1-1.
Hou/Tor
Shots 16/10
SOT 6/2
Possession 49/51
Tackles 14/35
Fouls 7/2
Yellow 3/1
Red 1/0
Injuries 1/1
Offsides 0/0
Corners 1/1
SA% 37/20
PA% 84/80
All 5 bookings occurred in the 66' or later. Fortunately, Ricardo Clark's Red came at 90'.
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I got a 2-1 win at Montreal. Tough match.
Mon/Hou
Shots 21/15
SOT 9/9
Possession 56/44
Tackles 29/14
Fouls 3/2
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 1/0
Corners 5/4
SA% 42/60
PA% 82/73
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I'm not going to bore you guys with all of the math, but the percentage of shots on target that actually result in goals is 6-8% below where I'd like it to be. That said, I'm going to lower GKA for the User and the AI by 2 each. I'll stick with that for a handful of matches to see if it gives the desired effect.
I'm also increasing Shot Error for the User by 2.
Currently, those are only slightly off of where I'd like them, statistically. Everything else is perfect.
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My latest match: a 2-1 win, at home, over Philadelphia.
Hou/Phi
Shots 23/11
SOT 7/2
Possession 52/48
Tackles 17/30
Fouls 2/1
Yellow 0/0
Red 0/0
Injuries 0/0
Offsides 0/0
Corners 3/2
SA% 30/18
PA% 82/80
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I didn't record the stats but lost my first game of my career, 2-0 but the game felt good and I got beat by a better team but not blown out either.
I'm Philadelphia in the MLS.
Using my sliders, snoop?Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
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Yeah they were yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan