steelerfan's NCAA Football 13 Sliders

I will update this post with changes that I make throughout the year.

Settings - House Rules (Game Difficulty & Penalties)

Gameplay Options
Skill	Heisman
Injuries	On
Fatigue	On
Quarter Length	9 Minutes
Play Clock	On
Coaching Tips	Off
Game Speed	Normal
Player Min Speed Threshold	20
Home Field Advantage Effects	On
Ice the Kicker	On
Game Rules
Offsides	70
False Start	80
Holding	54
Facemask	57
Offensive Pass Interference	100
Defensive Pass Interference	100
KR/PR Interference	100
Clipping	52
Intentional Grounding	100
Roughing the Passer	54
Roughing the Kicker	100
Custom AI
USER
QB Accuracy	5
Pass Blocking	50
WR Catching	50
RB Ability	50
Run Blocking	50
Pass Coverage	50
Pass Rush	20
Interceptions	30
Rush Defense	40
Tackling	50
FG Power	40
FG Accuracy	45
Punt Power	45
Punt Accuracy	50
Kickoff Power	50
CPU
QB Accuracy	20
Pass Blocking	50
WR Catching	50
RB Ability	50
Run Blocking	50
Pass Coverage	65
Pass Rush	40
Interceptions	25
Rush Defense	85
Tackling	50
FG Power	45
FG Accuracy	40
Punt Power	55
Punt Accuracy	75
Kickoff Power	50

Settings - Strategy (Set Audibles & Auto-Subs)

Auto-Subs
OFFENSE
QB Sub Out	40
QB Sub In	45
RB Sub Out	80
RB Sub In	85
WR Sub Out	80
WR Sub In	85
FB/TE Sub Out	80
FB/TE Sub In	85
OL Sub Out	40
OL Sub In	45
DEFENSE
DT Sub Out	80
DT Sub In	85
DE Sub Out	80
DE Sub In	85
LB Sub Out	50
LB Sub In	55
CB Sub Out	50
CB Sub In	55
S Sub Out	50
S Sub In	55

I've made a couple changes since my last game so I haven't even played with these yet.

Keep in mind that, as of now, these are still a WIP. Last year I had an early copy of the game and I had a couple of weeks to work on these before the game launched. This year I didn't have an early copy so it's going to take some time to iron these out, particularly since I jumped to Heisman.

For the guys that I already gave sliders to, these are slightly different than what you have.

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I started a Dynasty to give me something to do while I work on these sliders. I'm using Houston and I won my opener over Texas State, 41-12.

Here's a look at the numbers:

Stat: TSU/UH
First Downs: 20/26
Total Offense: 350/453
Rush-Yds-TD: 49-234-2/20-111-0
Comp-Att-TD: 12-21-0/36-47-5
Passing: 116/342
3rd Downs: 7-14/6-11
4th Downs: 0-1/0-0
2-pt: 0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 4-2-0/7-4-2
Turnovers: 2/3
Fumbles Lost: 1/0
Intercepted: 1/3
Penalties: 7-56/4-40
TOP: 17:03/18:57
Sacked: 7/2

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These are better and I think are REALLY close. I'm a little concerned about the CPU Pass Protection though.

Just ran a rematch to see how the sliders did. The game had a similar result (as it should IMHO) but the game felt MUCH better and I didn't rely on the HUGE play to get the W.

I believe you CAN run the ball now if you have a superior O-line if you are just patient and wait for the blocks to develop as I saw much fewer missed assignments and some actual pancakes (i was seeing very few pancakes before the bump up in blocking).

http://youtu.be/fl7pAGIUJwo?hd=1

Wow! 10 sacks?

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Wow! 10 sacks?

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Yeah 4-5 of them where of the slip screen variety where I snuffed it out and the CPU/QB just drops back forever until he is eventually caught. I'm going to run a game real quick where I do not blitz the entire game and the teams are roughly even to see what the #s look like.

Yeah. I played another game last night and I had 11 sacks (18 in 2 games). The cpu also went 27-30 passing against me. Has anyone felt that the cpu passing is too strong? That's the first game I thought that about, just wanted to get some other opinions.

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Game 2 of my Dynasty. Louisiana Tech 44, Houston 27.

Stat: LTU/UH

First Downs: 16/13
Total Offense: 420/301
Rush-Yds-TD: 34-7-1/19-38-0
Comp-Att-TD: 27-30-4/26-43-3
Passing Yds: 413/263
3rd Downs: 2-11/4-14
4th Downs: 0-1/0-1
2pt: 0-0/0-0
RZ-TD-FG: 5-2-3/3-2-1
TO: 0/1
Fumbles Lost: 0/0
Intercepted: 0/1
Penalties: 3-20/6-76
TOP: 17:07/18:53
Sacked: 11/4

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I made 3 changes. User Pass Rush lowered to 25. User Run Defense raised to 25. CPU Pass Accuracy lowered to 30.

Thanks for the input CLW.

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I'll give these a go when I get home steelerfan. Does the speed threshold feel pretty good to you?

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Originally Posted by beartide06

I'll give these a go when I get home steelerfan. Does the speed threshold feel pretty good to you?

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That's something that I'd like some more opinion on. Last year I played with it at 30 and it seemed okay. I'm not seeing too many guys being run down from behind, but input is key here.

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I lost at UCLA, 34-28. I'm considering lowering CPU Pass Accuracy some more and/or raising User Pass Coverage. I'm also still considering some changes to decrease the number of sacks.

The numbers:

Stat: UH/UCLA

First Downs: 31/14
Total Offense: 565/408
R-Y-T: 23-54-0/42-186-2
C-A-T: 40-68-4/14-17-2
Passing Yards: 511/222
3rd Downs: 10-17/7-14
4th Downs: 0-1/0-0
2pt: 0-0/0-0
R-T-F: 4-1-0/4-2-2
TO: 3/0
FL: 1/0
Int: 2/0
Penalties: 3-26/4-21
TOP: 19:44/16:16
Sacked: 5/4

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

I made 3 changes. User Pass Rush lowered to 25. User Run Defense raised to 25. CPU Pass Accuracy lowered to 30.

Thanks for the input CLW.

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These were before you made these changes:

http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...l=1#post152402

RnS Offense so they might be skewed.

I'd drop User and HUM Pass accuracy down 2 notches at least (I'm personally thinking 5/15 is probably pretty close). I just finished a game :UTSA: (me) @ :La_Tech: (CPU) and I think there was nearly 800 yards passing in the game. Might also want to bump of the pass coverage a notch each.

EDIT: I'd also bump up CPU Rush D to 95

Also I'm thinking maybe both HUM and CPU tackling needs to be lowered a bit b/c I'm not seeing many missed tackles (other than me overpursuing the guy but when I hit him the guy goes down)

I made a few changes. User QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Pass Rush to 20. User Pass Coverage raised to 70, INT to 30.

CPU QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Run Blocking to 50, and Pass Rush to 45.

I'm going to give these a couple games before I make any other changes.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

I made a few changes. User QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Pass Rush to 20. User Pass Coverage raised to 70, INT to 30.

CPU QBA lowered to 15, WRC to 55, Run Blocking to 50, and Pass Rush to 45.

I'm going to give these a couple games before I make any other changes.

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Hey man I've done some work on your sliders and think I'm pretty close. Several "tweaks" here and there. Want me to just post them or PM them to you?

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Originally Posted by CLW

Hey man I've done some work on your sliders and think I'm pretty close. Several "tweaks" here and there. Want me to just post them or PM them to you?

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How many games have you played with them?

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Are these still AA or are these Heisman sliders now?

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How many games have you played with them?

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4 now. The only "issue" is the stupid CPU QB with its screens and then scrambling around right into sacks which is causing higher than should be sack totals but I don't think there is anyway to fix that.

My only question is how many plays from scrimmage should we be getting approx? Feels like I'm getting a few too many with 9 min qtrs and thinking about going down to 8 which "should" give me games where the winning score will probably be in the high 20s low 30s when the teams are evenly matched.

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Are these still AA or are these Heisman sliders now?

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I'm trying Heisman right now.

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I find 8 min quarters is working well for me each game. The THRESHOLD is still an issue though. I am back to 50 because it just seems there are too many big passing plays when it's below 35. Last year 30 felt great but I'm just not feeling it for NCAA 13.

Regarding the penalty sliders, I see you have Clipping at 52 and Roughing the Passer at 54. I have never had one Roughing the Passer called at anything below 55, and I have Clipping at 100 but still haven't had one called in my 8 or so games played. I only get called for1 penalty every game and that's Holding (mine is set at 57), but the CPU gets called for offsides, false start, and holding. Really wish that they would have a few specific animations for each penalty otherwise why bother putting them in the game at all.

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

I find 8 min quarters is working well for me each game. The THRESHOLD is still an issue though. I am back to 50 because it just seems there are too many big passing plays when it's below 35. Last year 30 felt great but I'm just not feeling it for NCAA 13.

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ODD I wasn't seeing enough separation so I moved the Threshold down to like 20.

Steeler I've played several games now with the set of yours that I "tweaked" and I'm pretty happy with the results. I think I'm going to keep rolling with these and get started on my dynasty but let me know if you want me to PM them to you or just post them but as always I appreciate your work and I'll keep checking in to see your progress.

Send them my way, CLW. I'll give them a shot and see if they work out for me too. :up:

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How come the sliders on the front page come up all weird looking? Distorted?

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How come the sliders on the front page come up all weird looking? Distorted?

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What do you mean? They look fine to me. Are you having trouble viewing any other tables?

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Send them my way, CLW. I'll give them a shot and see if they work out for me too. :up:

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I'll PM them to you tonight.

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Originally Posted by CLW

I'll PM them to you tonight.

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Thanks, buddy.

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Originally Posted by CLW

I'll PM them to you tonight.

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Nice work CLW and :sf:, much appreciated. I haven't had the time I had last year to help with these so a huge thanks to all involved!!!

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Thanks, buddy.

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PM sent. I'm still debating on the # of plays right now at 9 minutes I'm getting between 130-140 plays from scrimmage. I'm thinking that might be a touch too high so 8 minutes may be the way to go (at least with the set I am currently using). Steeler let me know your thoughts obviously the larger sample size the better.

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PM sent. I'm still debating on the # of plays right now at 9 minutes I'm getting between 130-140 plays from scrimmage. I'm thinking that might be a touch too high so 8 minutes may be the way to go (at least with the set I am currently using). Steeler let me know your thoughts obviously the larger sample size the better.

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Will do.

I think that snap count is okay, depending on the teams and the types of offenses, teams will frequently exceed 140 snaps between them.

Here's the box score from last years C-USA title game. 171 snaps.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsda...2/03#box-score


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Originally Posted by steelerfan

Will do.

I think that snap count is okay, depending on the teams and the types of offenses, teams will frequently exceed 140 snaps between them.

Here's the box score from last years C-USA title game. 171 snaps.

http://content.usatoday.com/sportsda...2/03#box-score


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Cool had a chance yet to give my tweaks a test drive?

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Cool had a chance yet to give my tweaks a test drive?

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No, sorry. I haven't played NCAA in a few nights, but I'm firing it up now. I'll give them a shot right away.

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I tried out the tweaks, CLW. Overall, not bad. I'll have to play some more games, but I liked the balance.

I won, 31-14 at South Carolina, with Virginia Tech. The game was closer than that as I got handed a couple of 4th quarter scores. The cpu was only 9/23 passing, but that needs more testing, of course.

I want to play more to make sure that I don't always win by 3 scores against opponents that are equal to, or better than, myself. I enjoyed the feel of the passing game, but want to make sure the cpu isn't n nuetered.

Good work, buddy. I'll play more and let you know.

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I tried out the tweaks, CLW. Overall, not bad. I'll have to play some more games, but I liked the balance.

I won, 31-14 at South Carolina, with Virginia Tech. The game was closer than that as I got handed a couple of 4th quarter scores. The cpu was only 9/23 passing, but that needs more testing, of course.

I want to play more to make sure that I don't always win by 3 scores against opponents that are equal to, or better than, myself. I enjoyed the feel of the passing game, but want to make sure the cpu isn't n nuetered.

Good work, buddy. I'll play more and let you know.

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Yeah the passing #s I have seen go from similar to what you saw to 50-60% depending on the game. It might need a CPU bump up in CPU accuracy. Although in my games allot of the incompletes are drops. Unfortunately, that appears to be the most effective way to lower the completion %.

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Yeah the passing #s I have seen go from similar to what you saw to 50-60% depending on the game. It might need a CPU bump up in CPU accuracy. Although in my games allot of the incompletes are drops. Unfortunately, that appears to be the most effective way to lower the completion %.

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There was only 1 drop in my game and that was by the cpu TE.

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Even at roughing the QB at 54, this morning I played a game and Houston (cpu) had NINE roughing the passer calls against me. I may need to lower it.

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Even at roughing the QB at 54, this morning I played a game and Houston (cpu) had NINE roughing the passer calls against me. I may need to lower it.

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God damn! When he throws it, let up, lol.

I've seen maybe 2 or 3 in all the games I've played. Total.

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God damn! When he throws it, let up, lol.

I've seen maybe 2 or 3 in all the games I've played. Total.

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NO! The other team's QB must go down and he must go down HARD!

I haven't seen one of those penalties in years in this game.

I wish there was a way sliders in NCAA could impact injuries more. Currently in season two I have only had three major injuries. I really want an injury slider added to this game.