Rams looking to trade away the #2 slot. Looks like we will have QBs go #1 and #2 in the draft.
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Rams looking to trade away the #2 slot. Looks like we will have QBs go #1 and #2 in the draft.
Redskins and Browns look to be the major players for the #2 Rams pick.
I've heard the Redskins could potentially look to go after Manning and Wayne as a package deal.
I can guarantee you that, if we trade up to #2 for Griffin (which I think is a HORRIBLE idea, btw), we will not be spending money on Manning and Wayne as a package deal. Manning won't be coming to DC if we trade up.
Personally, I hope the Redskins stand pat, tell the Rams to go fuck themselves, get Manning and Wayne along with a few other choice FAs on the cheap, and trade back in the draft. Stockpile some picks and be smart about it. If it was Luck, I'd be a bit more interested in the trade, but, unfortunately, it's for someone in Griffin that has a HUGE bust potential.
I can't see the Redskins and Snyder making a good decision here.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
I'm not a fan of Snyder, my cousin worked for him for a few years and told a few stories about him that are less then inspiring. The funniest one is that you as an employee are not allowed to look him in the eyes :fp:
Snyder doesn't make the decisions. Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen do. Simple as that.
Yeah, I didn't mean they were going to do both. Just the rumors out there, one or the other.
The Steelers have officially announced that they will release Hines Ward.
I totally understand the move. He has been relegated to being the 5th receiver and a 5th receiver needs to be able to play special teams. Those days are long gone.
That said, he is certainly one of the all-time greatest Steelers and I will always hold him in high regard.
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Facebook posts by Adam Schefter.
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NFL security determined between 22 and 27 defensive players on the Saints, as well as at least one asst. coach, maintained a bounty program.
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Investigation reviewed 18.000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages. Commissioner Goodell will determine the discipline.
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NFL determined that former Saints DC Gregg Williams administered the program with knowledge of other defensive coaches.
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Discipline for the Saints could include fines, suspensions and forfeiture of draft choices.
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NFL investigation of Saints began in 2010 when allegations were made that Saints targeted QBs such as Brett Favre and Kurt Warner.
Much less interesting then Patriot-gate. No surprise there.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
and even if the Redskins go after Manning..I doubt he would do it to avoid playing the Giants twice a year... I believe he will go to an AFC team
And the wheel goes round.
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ESPN NFL - WSH POST: NFL to investigate if Redskins had bounty program when Gregg Williams was d-coordinator
Won't be anything against us. The Saints? Absolutely because they were told to cut it out and kept going with it. Gibbs flat out denies that anything happened during Williams' time here and if there's one man in this world that wouldn't lie, it's Joe Gibbs. If he knew about it, he would have reported it when it was happening.
Feel bad for the Saints because the hammer is going to be dropped on them.
Yeah, in this case it appears the NFL is investigating solely because Gregg Williams was there at one time, not that there has been any actual signs or proof that the Redskins did it. As for the Saints, I agree, they're screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
A former coach and 5 former players have come forward already to say that the Redskins were doing the same thing under Williams.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
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I would not be surprised if Williams gets suspended for at least the season.
Really? I hadn't heard that. This is getting interesting. I'd have to agree with Ryby, Williams is going to get bent over by the NFL at the rate these investigations are going.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...4poR_blog.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
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this is lame..everyone does it..he's just the one getting caught...of course I dont think/mean everyone does it, i'm just generalizing..but the point is,this isnt that big a deal in football, guys already get hit, so what if someone plants a little harder? it happens whether theres a motivational bounty or not
guys are going to get hit regardless, you are right. but there's a big difference in hitting your opponent cleanly, and trying to cause permanent injury to him. and thats what the bounties do; they reward players for playing dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
i'm not saying its a great thing at all..but its not a big deal either.. and a coaches career shouldnt be made an example of in an extreme way..just charge a fine and move on..its the least important or interesting thing in this weeks news as far as I care....steroids and (((guys who cant read good))) are bigger problems LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
Yes, trying to intentionally injure (instead of simply just tackle) and potentially permanently end a player's career because you'll get a bounty from your coach for it isn't a big deal at all. :fp:
Ram do you seriously believe the shit that you post or do you do it for the simple joy of stirring the pot?
not a big deal? you have a coach that for at least 3 years, paid his players for deliberately trying to injure other players. and you think steroids are more important than this? :smh: but whatever, thats your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
you guys are such pansies LOL..no, steroids IS a more important problem and always was...theres a fine line between just tackling and hitting a little harder when it comes to being a pro in football..again,this aint no big deal because its been going on in one form or another since the 1800s.. and come playoff time, all hits get harder and QBs will always be meat to be torn apart and they know it..again, stop taking extremes with what I say.. I already said,this isnt a great thing..but truly, it aint no big deal
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Oh yeah, I forgot.
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If it were only that simple. The problem is when you have players actually going for the knockout instead of just "hitting harder", like going low and trying to take out a knee, basically hitting dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Every NFL to youth football player hits about as hard as they can on every play. You always want to knock the snot out of someone.
If it were a simple, "hey, if we all hit cleanly and you knock someone out of the game you get a bounty" then I really wouldn't have a problem with it. But when money is involved, a lot of people will do what they can to get it.
The Steelers are constantly getting flags and fines/suspensions for what the league perceives, in super slow-motion, as them targeting a player's head. Other teams, obviously, have had their players fined as well. I'd say that a good 80% of the "illegal" hits nowadays - the ones that draw flags, fines and suspensions - are complete bullshit.
That said, if you expect me to accept Steelers getting fined and suspended for such things, yet turn a blind eye to other teams rewarding players for trying to injure, you're a fool.
There is a difference between hard-hitting, and trying to injure. While every player may be happy to hurt the opposing quarterback, it is the job of the league not to promote such activity. You cannot justify bounties no matter how you try.
The league cannot bang the drum (even if it's just for show and to curtail future lawsuits) about player safety and also ignore this.
Is this the biggest story in the history of the league? No. Is it surprising? No. Does it need to be dealt with? Absolutely.
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Late to the party but just read the article with Favre on nfl.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack
That was an pitiful officiated game and there were definitely ALOT of late, unnecessary hits that weren't flagged. Going off what I remember of the game they were intentionally trying to put him out of the game...and I mean not in a "football" way.
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Originally Posted by steelerfan
and the way they do deal with it,will just get/give your team more fines and suspensions in the future..and so it goes...Pittsburgh isnt even good at tackling, ..that OT loss to Denver on the last play
..that was the biggest pathetic miffed tackle by 2 players in Steelers history LOL j/k
Well neither Mundy or Taylor should be model examples of tackling lol
Now if it were Clark or Polamalu my feeling would be different.
Bills, Titans, and Jags added to the list of teams bring investigated.
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Originally Posted by ram29jackson
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Oh for the love of God. :fp:
Surprised Stevie Johnson re-signed with the Bills. Thought for sure he was going to jump ship.
soon,it will be illegal to play football IN football gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
Is there another site we can trade ram with? We give them ram, they give us one of their members? And we just don't tell them about ram so they'll give us a good member in return.
Actually, Ike Taylor is a very good tackler.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
In fact, I read a breakdown last offseason that showed how all of his coverage numbers were on par with Revis' with the obvious exception of INTs. The breakdown detailed how much better he was in run support (and at tackling) than any of the top CBs in the league. The whole point of the article was that Taylor is as important to the Steelers' defense as Revis is to the Jets and that Pittsburgh was fortunate, from a salary cap standpoint, that Taylor's total package was perceived as less valuable than Revis' ability to create turnovers.
EDIT: that article may have been about Asomugha, can't remember. The point is the same, Taylor is a better tackler than most CBs.
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NFL says they have 18,000 documents and over 50,000 pages of evidence pertaining to the Saints' bounty system.
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