Lol. Just giving you the same business I give to my buddy who is a Texas fan. :nod:
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What is ironic about all this too me, is logistically none of this makes sense. They don't want a playoff because kids would miss too much school, yet to play some of these teams would have miss a day or more for travel to play these "regular" season games.
This is such a money grab and hypocritical its ridiculous.
Good for the Pac-12! To hell with those greedy fuckers.
Ya...Texas seems to be pissing everyone off. I think schools should do what's best for them but sometimes being a good partner is what's best for them.
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It seems like Pac-12 has stabilzed things. If they would have grabbed those four schools, then chaos would have ensued. It truly would have been a game of musical chairs.
OU and OSU just need to leave for the SEC. The SEC can pick up one more school and you have your super conference. T-Sippers can stay in the Big 12 with Tech and pickup SMU, Rice, Houston and some other scrubs so they can feel invincible.
Been that way for a long time.Quote:
This is such a money grab and hypocritical its ridiculous.
I think someone here already posted this, but the NCAA, ESPN, the bowls, schools, etc. is just a big money-making suckhole:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true
East Carolina applies to join Big East.
East Carolina of Conference USA announced on Wednesday it has applied for membership in the Big East Conference.
"While we have formalized our interest in Big East Conference membership as a viable option, ECU will remain focused on competing at the highest level through the efforts of Conference USA," chancellor Steve Ballard and athletic director Terry Holland said in a statement Wednesday.
The Big East is regrouping after Syracuse and Pittsburgh joined the Atlantic Coast Conference.
A source told ESPN's Joe Schad on Tuesday that the Big East's initial expansion targets would be the service academies -- Army, Navy, and Air Force -- with Central Florida and East Carolina as second-tier possibilities.
The Associated Press, citing a person with knowledge of the discussions, reported Wednesday that Navy and Air Force are the top choices, but as football-only members.
The person spoke on condition of anonymity on Wednesday because the conference does not want to publicly disclose its plans.
Navy is an independent and Air Force plays in the Mountain West Conference.
Leaders from the Big East football schools and TCU, which is to enter the league in 2012, met with commissioner John Marinatto in Manhattan on Tuesday night. All the league's members, including the eight nonfootball-playing schools, committed to recruit new members.
But the league's status is still less than stable, especially with another piece of the realignment puzzle missing.
Once Texas A&M makes a clean break from the Big 12, the SEC will be at 13 teams, and likely looking for No. 14. Missouri seemed a candidate, but Big 12 officials are working to save that league.
There has been speculation the SEC could have West Virginia of the Big East as a target to be the 14th school.
"As I stated before, WVU is an excellent flagship, land-grant University, with national-caliber athletic and academic programs," West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck said in a statement Wednesday. "We are, and will remain, a national player in college athletics."
There also has to be concern in the Big East that the ACC could come back for more of its members.
A source with direct knowledge of the meeting told ESPN.com's Andy Katz that UConn didn't commit to remain in the Big East and is still actively pursuing membership in the ACC.
UConn president Susan Herbst addressed her school's future in a statement released Wednesday.
"The past several days have magnified the period of instability that exists today in the world of college athletics. I want to say thank you to all of our loyal supporters and fans of UConn and our athletic programs for their patience during this time," she said. "Please know that we will always do what is in the best interests for the University of Connecticut."
West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck commented on Tuesday night's Big East meeting in a statement released Wednesday.
"The group concluded the meeting with a strategy to recruit top level BCS-caliber institutions that match the league's strong athletic and academic histories and traditions," Lucks said. "As I stated before, WVU is an excellent flagship, land-grant university, with national-caliber athletic and academic programs. We are, and will remain, a national player in college athletics. The conference office will coordinate any further discussion on this issue."
Villanova, a Colonial Athletic Association team in football that won the FCS championship in 2009, wants to be considered as a candidate for the Big East, according to a source. The Wildcats already are in the Big East in basketball.
But the source said that with the Big 12 likely staying intact, at least nine schools other than the Huskies may have to wait for the ACC to decide if it will add two more schools to extend the league's membership to 16.
"The ACC is the preferred place for (Connecticut)," the source said. "That hasn't changed."
U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Wednesday he doesn't foresee involvement from congressional leaders in current issues facing college athletics.
"I don't think the universities need any advice from Congress about how to run their business," McConnell, a Louisville alumnus, told ESPN.com's Pat Forde. "I have concerns about it, but I'm not an expert on why the universities are doing what they're doing. I assume it is in their own best interests. From a fan perspective, it is a little perplexing. I don't know what's going to happen to traditional rivalries when they're traveling thousands of miles to play."
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Adios Dan Beebe.
I don't mind losing Syracuse and Pitt if we add Navy, Air Force, ECU, and maybe Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor, Iowa State, and UCF. The Big East could easily go to 14-16 schools if it needed to to keep up with the Super Conference stuff if the Big 12 collapses and the Pac-12 and/or SEC come along to scavenge up teams.
Shoot, with this list of schools, I'd be fine with WVU staying in the Big East:
WVU
Rutgers
Louisville
Cincinnati
USF
Connecticut
UCF
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
Navy
Air Force
ECU
Iowa State
TCU
That's a pretty decent 15 teams. Throw in Boise State or Houston and you have yourself a nice split for conference setup:
East
WVU
Connecticut
USF
UCF
Rutgers
Navy
Louisville
ECU
West
Cincinnati
Air Force
TCU
Boise State/Houston
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Fake Chuck Neinas had a farewell for Fake Dan Beebe.
https://twitter.com/#!/ChuckNeinas/s...93535553630208
Hey @DanBeebe could you be a dear and set the thermostat to 61 on the way out. Leave the bowl of Werthers.
Fake twitter is serious business.
Oh Mors...
We now have us a headhunter as commish. The Big 12 just got off life support.
Now let's Super Size The Big 12 add 4 more and have a TRUE Big 16.
North
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas St
BYU
Air Force
Cincinnati
Notre Dame
Iowa State
South
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
Houston
SMU
TCU
...while Texas still gets to rake in the cash and keep it :D
They can keep making the money, we will continue dominating the BIG 12 in football.
I'm going to give it until February or March before this all starts again. Unless the SEC does agree to add Missouri, then all bets are off.
Texas A&M officially joins SEC
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (September 25, 2011) – The Southeastern Conference Presidents and Chancellors, acting unanimously, announced today that Texas A&M University will join the Southeastern Conference effective July 1, 2012, with competition to begin in all sports for the 2012-13 academic year.
The addition of Texas A&M will increase the SEC membership to 13 institutions. It is the first expansion for the SEC since September of 1991 when the University of South Carolina joined the league. The University of Arkansas joined the SEC in August of 1991. With the addition of Arkansas and South Carolina, the SEC was the first conference to split into divisions and add a conference championship game in 1992.
“The Southeastern Conference Presidents and Chancellors are pleased to welcome Texas A&M University to the SEC family,” said Dr. Bernie Machen, chair of the SEC Presidents and Chancellors and president of the University of Florida. “The addition of Texas A&M University as the SEC’s 13th member gives our league a prestigious academic institution with a strong athletic tradition and a culture similar to our current institutions.”
“The Southeastern Conference provides Texas A&M the national visibility that our great university and our student-athletes deserve,” said Texas A&M University President R. Bowen Loftin. “We are excited to begin competition in the nation’s premier athletic conference. This is a 100-year decision that we have addressed carefully and methodically, and I believe the Southeastern Conference gives the Aggies the best situation of any conference in the country.”
Texas A&M , located in College Station, will also be the third institution in the Southeastern Conference to hold membership in the prestigious Association of American Universities, joining University of Florida and Vanderbilt University. Texas A&M has an enrollment of 50,000 students, ranking as the sixth-largest university in the country, with 360,000 former students worldwide.
Texas A&M also adds to the athletic excellence of the SEC. Last season, the Aggies won three NCAA team titles (men’s and women’s outdoor track and field, women’s basketball) and finished eighth in the prestigious Learfield Sports Director’s Cup all-sport rankings.
“On behalf of our presidents, chancellors, athletics directors, students and fans, I welcome Texas A&M University to the SEC family,” said SEC Commissioner Mike Slive. “Texas A&M is a nationally-prominent institution on and off the field and a great fit for the SEC tradition of excellence—athletically, academically and culturally.”
The Aggies sponsor 20 varsity sports. Men’s sports include baseball, basketball, football, golf, swimming and diving, tennis, indoor and outdoor track and field and cross country. Women’s sports include basketball, equestrian, golf, soccer, softball, swimming and diving, tennis, indoor and outdoor track and field and cross country and volleyball. Texas A&M participates in every sport sponsored by the SEC except gymnastics and the SEC sponsors every sport the Aggies participate in except equestrian.
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I would say that the 14th member will be invited within the next month. I can't see the SEC sticking with an odd number.
There is a shocker, inviting A&M this week. Right on time for the A&M/Ark game in Arlington.
Missouri and West Virginia have both been rumored but no invites.
Uh oh....
TCU has scheduled a meeting of its board and will likely make the announcement ASAP that its headed to the Big 12.
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God damn it Big East.
From a geographic standpoint it is a no brainer that TCU should be in the Big 12 instead of the Big East. I wonder if Big 12 stops at 10 if they get TCU.
Big 12 is starting to shape up. We add Houston and BYU and we will be fine. If Missou leaves we might throw SMU a bone. Two teams out of the DFW area is one too much for me. I would rather have a Tulsa. over SMU.
I don't think they will add Houston and SMU. Those guys drag down the TV money as they have to share more of it with two teams that won't generate much income. TCU is a bigger name and gets them to 10. There is no point in going to 12 unless those next two teams are good candidates. Maybe BYU. But if you go past 10 you have to add two more and I'm not sure there are two good candidates for that without seeing the TV money drop per team.
I really feel for the BIG EAST. I thought they were getting back on there feet in football but now they pretty much look like the WAC of a few years back. Sad fate for a conference I have always liked.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...y-for-football
The conference is looking into adding Boise State, Air Force and Navy as football-only members, The Boston Globe reported, citing Big East sources. The report also said the league is interested in adding Temple and Central Florida in all sports and that Villanova could become the league's 12th football team.
Really? Villanova has had some good teams the last few years but they seem to be on a bit of a slide this year. :fp:
Give us some Hoya football. They at least have a winning record.
I definitely don't see either FCS school making the upgrade to BCS football worth. We're talkin' about taking stadiums that are smaller than some high school football stadiums (Villanova - 12,500 and Georgetown - 2,500) and trying to get them up to 50,000 or more. It's just not happening. It's bad enough that we have Cincinnati (35,100) and Connecticut (40,000). That's just atrocious football stadium capacities considering half the time, they don't even sell those seats out.
The Big East is floundering, very badly. I just hope WVU has something up their sleeves once the Big 12 stupidly gives Louisville entrance into the conference (which, from everything that I've read and heard, sounds highly likely once they get TCU officially in). Once we go down to 5 teams, we're no longer considering a conference, and WVU is free to leave without paying the buyout (which, from what I've heard, is their reasoning for not immediately leaving the conference with the offers that they have on the table).
The Big East is going to no longer be a conference (if everything happens as what I'm hearing is going to happen).
When do you think the BCS removes the Big East as an automatic qualifier? The only real team is WVU, even if they do add 6 other schools.
The Big East is seriously considering Air Force? Christ, that's even fucking worse than TCU in the Big East. Are the Big East schools really going to want to constantly fly out to Colorado for a football game? Is the Falcons football team really going to want to fly clear to the east coast every fucking week for a game? Jesus this is just getting fucking retarded.
Big East Will Consider Adding Six Teams for Football
Army, Navy, Air Force, Memphis, Central Florida, East Carolina & Temple among those being rumored.
Well TCU is getting ready to announce they are moving to the BIG 12. Then you have the Missouri issue. I do not think anyone wants them bad enough and they will stay in the Big 12. That puts us at 10. All the sources claim we are looking at BYU, Louisville and West Virginia. I think we end up snagging BYU and Louisville for 12 and West Virginia heads out to the SEC to put them 14.
The Big East simply becomes the MAC conference of the East.