I think Baylor jumps TCU if they beat K-St. If head-to-head doesn't trump strength of schedule then the process is broken.
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I think Baylor jumps TCU if they beat K-St. If head-to-head doesn't trump strength of schedule then the process is broken.
Well then that's awfully dickish of the committee to have TCU on the edge at 5th or in the playoff since the very first rankings (and ahead of Baylor since the very first ranking), only to turn around and say "suck it bitches" and drop them, now, at least two spots to let Baylor jump in front of them, if both win this weekend. If something like that is allowed to happen, the process is even more far broken than just some simple head to head wins.
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I think the committee is sending a message that your strength of schedule does matter. Stop scheduling nothing but cupcakes and automatic wins or you will pay for it. I love that message.
I will be ecstatic if Michigan gets any one of these names that have been tossed out by legit sources:
Jim Harbaugh
Sean Payton
Les Miles
Jim Mora Jr.
Dan Mullen
David Shaw
John Harbaugh
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Bracing for disappointment
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TCU drops 3 spots with a win? TCU wins easily and they are in. This is what you want to happen as an Ohio St fan. I have no dogs in this hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by dhook27
TCU goes up 55-3 as I am posting this. Baylor and Ohio St will be left out of the playoff unless Bama or FSU loses.
Yep. Unless Baylor beats Kansas State 100-0, TCU is a lock in my opinion. No way the committee just says "fuck you" to TCU after ranking them above Baylor and Ohio State every week.
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Don't be surprised if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Not sure I see how Ohio State gets in
If that could potentially happen even with a TCU win...then why is TCU at 3? If they can get jumped by a team outside of the 4
And this could potentially happen if FSU wins and finishes undefeated or would they move up to 3.
Oregon won't get moved down, hell they may even put them to #1...better chance of that then moving down.
Oklahoma lost. TCUs resume just keeps getting worse.
:D Oklahoma lost, Oklahoma State won. TCU beat both of them (and smoked the hell out of Oklahoma State). It pretty much cancels out after as TCU is concerned.
And with Alabama beating Missouri, Ohio State's coffin is nearly entirely nailed. Ohio State's ONLY chance now is for Georgia Tech to knock off Florida State. Alabama is a lock. Oregon is a lock.
TCU is, in my opinion, a lock, because why the hell would the committee jump them two spots up to #3 last week, ahead of Florida State, only to say "fuck you" and dump them out of the top 4 entirely the next week after they did exactly what they had to do, bitch slap Iowa State 55-3?
The only remaining question is Florida State. If Florida State wins, they're in and your top 4 (in unknown order) are Alabama, Florida State, Oregon and TCU. If Florida State loses, either Ohio State or Baylor will slip in. Assuming Ohio State even beats Wisconsin, which is FAR from even being claimed as a sure thing. With Barrett out, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Wisconsin beat Ohio State by 2+ touchdowns.
Let's go Bucks
Let's go Georgia Tech
If FSU wins, they're in. The 4th is going to be Baylor or Ohio St. The committee is on the record as saying they hadn't considered Baylor's win over TCU yet because the resumes weren't complete. If Baylor #9 KSU, Baylor and TCU will have the same record and head-to-head finally comes into play. If strength of schedule starts trumping head-to-head then that diminishes the whole point of playing games in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Yeah, but strength of schedule still has to count for something. Sure, Baylor beat TCU, but that's not the end all, be all. TCU's only loss of the season came to a likely 11-1 top 6 Baylor. Baylor's lone loss of the season came to a 7-5 West Virginia, who was in the middle of a 3 game losing streak to end the year before they struggled out a 13 point win over a terrible Iowa State team. Baylor and TCU had similar non-conference schedules, the only difference is in TCU's favor as TCU played a top 25 8-win Minnesota, whereas Baylor played a 5-win Buffalo.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Yeah, head to head is important, but if you completely ignore the entire work of the season just because of head to head, then you likewise diminish the whole point of stronger non-conference schedules and entire seasons of work. Apparently the committee also has no problem jerking teams around all over the place in that case. If you jump a team two spots from #5 up to #3 (seemingly a quite safe ranking, much safer than #4, and that team the next week does their job and ass rapes their opponent, only to get flipped off and shoved back down 2+ spots because one game earlier in the season "wasn't being considered yet", then that's just as big of a fucking joke than anything the BCS ever produced.
If Baylor is such a great choice for the committee, then they would have damn well had them higher than 6 or 7 every ranking. I call bullshit if the only reason they have held Baylor so low every week is simply because they haven't played Kansas State yet for the past 3-4 weeks. Other than a 6-win Oklahoma State and a 4-win Texas Tech, Baylor hasn't played a "top" Big 12 team since Oklahoma four weeks ago. Kansas State was their only "top" Big 12 game left on the schedule. Baylor has shown who they are and if they were worthy of the top 4, especially compared to TCU, then the committee would have moved them up weeks ago instead of waiting an entire month just so Baylor could play Kansas State first.
If TCU, after doing what they were supposed to do, destroy the fuck out of Iowa State, is punished and dumped out of the top 4 simply because Baylor beat them back in the beginning of October (especially after the Big 12 has already declared they will be considered co-champions as far as the committee is concerned), then this entire college football playoff is already tarnished and a bigger joke than the BCS ever was before the first playoff games could even be played.
Winning the game should ALWAYS be the end-all-be-all. If it's not then I'm going to start calling the 18-1 New England Patriots the champs for that season.
Well, the world isn't perfect. The Big 12 has declared TCU as co-champions and even gave them a trophy today as Big 12 co-champions. If the world was perfect and winning the game was the end all, be all, Baylor would be the outright champion and TCU would be left with nothing but their peckers in their hands.
That's the Big 12 trying to get both teams in if FSU loses. Trying to play the "conference champion" card. It's mega lame on their part.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
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YepQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Just think it's ridiculous that FSU is 4.
And if one of the teama get in over TCU being replaced at 3 over FSU...this process and first year committee has been a joke IMO.
Not sure TCU should even be in but definitely not over FSU.
Name of the game is wins and losses.
This team continues to amaze me.
Well, now things completely change as Ohio State is brutally horse fucking Wisconsin tonight.
If FSU wins, it'll be
Bama
Oregon
Ohio State
FSU
There's no if about it now. Florida State leads 37-21 with 3 minutes left in the game. Now the wait to see if the committee will give the Bucks the nod or if they tell the Big Ten to piss off and pick TCU.
Ohio St. really made this interesting. Dropping fitty on Wisconsin with the 3rd string QB means I have no clue who 4 is. TCU should be out in my opinion. It should be
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Florida St.
4. Ohio St.
The 2 True Champs should be 5 and 6.
TCU should definitely be out
FSU should be 1 don't care what is said. Know it technically doesn't matter if you win in a playoff but still
They shouldn't be 4 either way lol
Ohio State should certainly be in. Not only are they winning with 3rd string but they are beating the brakes off a team they were suppose to lose to giving circumstances
Don't think Iowa State was ever to be a threat against TCU
Based of the performances today, I give Ohio St a chance at making the playoff. That is simply a beat down. The problem lies in the fact they had TCU bumped up toat #3. Hopefully all the commotion will get us closer to an 8 team playoff and the Big 12 going back to a conference championship.
Anyway the Jackrabbits almost pulled off the upset over NDSU. Had the lead until NDSU scored with under a minute left.
Ohio State's 59 point victory margin against Wisconsin is greater than the victory margin of Florida State's last 8 games combined
Literal GOAT stat ahahah
Yeah but in their 13 games they haven't lost 1
I'd probably take that stat over any others
Bingo. Until they lose they are the top dog. Speaking of, "Literal GOAT stat ahahah."Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
Florida St beat Florida this year. Name the last time Ohio St beat Florida? :blush:
And your playoffs are:
#1 Alabama (12-1) SEC Champs
#2 Oregon (12-1) Pac-12 Champs
#3 Florida State (13-0) ACC Champs
#4 Ohio State (12-1) Big Ten Champs
And first two out are:
#5 Baylor
#6 TCU
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Smells like the committee didn't want to have to make the call between :Baylor: :TCU: to me for :Ohio_State: to jump like that
I called it to a T on Facebook in that exact order this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
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It'll never happen because it gets ratings but the weekly ratings show shouldn't exist. Yeah, the talk is fun leading up to championship week but everyone would be better off if there everyone was in the dark until it's all said and done.
Aaaaaand it's time to go to 8 teams already. All Power 5 champs and 3 wildcards.
I agree with that the Basketball Committee does not come out every week and let everyone know who's in who's out and who's got the #1 seeds it just comes out on the REAL selection Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Yeah and then #9 and #10 will whine :DQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
But #9 and #10 wouldn't have legitimate arguments. Baylor and TCU both have legitimate arguments. How is it that Ohio State plays 3 good teams all year, happens to blow one of them out in their CCG, and all of a sudden they're better than TCU? That's ridiculous. It looks to me that, if anything, it's the committee sticking it to the Big 12 for not having enough members to have a conference championship game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
It basically boils down to Baylor vs. Ohio St. TCU was eliminated the moment Baylor beat KSU. At that moment Baylor > TCU. So, in an argument between Baylor and Ohio St., Baylor's strength of schedule became their Achilles heel allowed Ohio St. to move up. If Baylor had lost, TCU would be in.
I just did a better job of explaining the obvious then every talking head on ESPN today.
I wonder how much Wisconsin is getting paid for putting Ohio State in the playoffs.
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The least they could have done was shake up the bowl schedule so Baylor and TCU could have had a rematch in the Cotton Bowl. So we could finally determine our one true champion. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Big 12 just needs to add two teams and a conference championship. I would say BYU would be one of those teams but could you imagine their fans in Morgantown? They would have to double their missions after traveling there.
Saban-Meyer IV
This is the stuff of legends guys
After Saban-Meyer IV.
Meyer will have health issues again!