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Note to self, remove Mors from my Christmas Card list. ;)
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Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Note to self, remove Mors from my Christmas Card list. ;)
I did not miss the point. You are changing it now though. It all started by someone saying there are more annoying people in the NFL RIGHT now and E said Lewis. I asked what was wrong with him and you bring up shit from his past. Now you are saying you have no problem with him in the past 5 or so years besides being a Raven, then how is he more annoying now than Tebow? Also, you think Tebow is the only person in the NFL who does good things? Definitely not, but he is damn sure one of the first ones to let everyone know what he does that is good. And now you edit something about Dunn, but make sure you put something about him being a Seminole but the main things you put that you hate about Lewis are the teams he has played for? It is okay for you to not like someone for a team they play for, but not anyone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
Not changing anything, I listed 3 things about Lewis that I did not like. As a Steeler fan, I do not care for the Ravens. As a Sooner fan, I am not a Hurricane fan. As a person who does not murder people, I do not care for murderers. I stuck Warrick in because he is commonly known for all his charitable deeds and that he was one of the good guys. Just trying to cover all the Florida schools. Ray has changed as a person, as best I can tell but that does not change his past.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryby6969
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Originally Posted by bdoughty
I said that I am indifferent to his overtly christian gestures. The fact that I can't tell if he's your youth minister or one of the Village People has nothing to do with it.
I'm no more bothered by his jesus peddling than I am by any other player doing a sack dance or whatever.
I can tell you're an OS reject. :fp:
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You nailed it!Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
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Wow, all of this over a shitty player than can't even complete 50% of his passes.
Who has a Heisman, a National Title and currently a 6-2 record as a starter the past two years. I could give two shits how many of his passes are completed with that kind of record. Plus have you looked at the Bronco receiving core? Can you name three of them, including TE's.
Fuck it, arguing with a bunch of atheists is a waste of time.
I'm agnostic, thank you.
And Tebow is 5-3, not 6-2.
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Excuse me 5-3. Agnostics are just pussified atheists, covering their ass just in case they are wrong in their heathen ways. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
I hated the guy in college and I hate the praying. What ruined me is seeing him doing some ministry and he sound like a televangelist. ....it made me sick.
Now, in the pros I want him to succeed just to shut the mouths of all the 'experts' on ESPN!
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Wow, you're a fucking moron.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
No one, or nothing, has proven to me that there is a god. No one, or nothing, has proven there is not. Hence, agnostic.
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I do think a lot of hate comes from people who aren't religious. The lack of respect in this thread towards Christianity bothers me.
I don't know if I'm one of the people you think are showing a lack of respect towards Christianity but let me assure you that is not my intent. I have trouble with Tebow and his over-the-top antics.
I have trouble with the praying b/c don't understand it. What exactly do people pray for when they score a TD? ...'thanks for making me a winner and the other team losers'?
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So I should have respect for a religion that has people killing other people in it's name nearly every day? The bloodiest wars and genocides in the history of humanity have been done in the name of one fictional god or another. Excuse me if I'm not kind about a religion with so many innocent people's blood on it's hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
The lack of respect in this thread towards Agnosticism bothers me.
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I don't personally think he's calling attention to himself when praying but I absolutely agree with you in disliking players who thank God for a victory. God doesn't play favourites in sports. It's silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
No question bad things have happened in history as a result of religious wars. But so many good things have happened as well. South Africa had Bishop Desmond Tutu lead a religious movement that allowed the black and white community to come together with no bloodshed. The church has done many good things. That can't be ignored. You also can't ignore the horrible things atheist leaders have done in this world either.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
If you are an atheist or agnostic I'm not going to bother you but you should show some respect for people that do believe. You may not believe this but people are entitled to different opinions and we can peacefully co-exist.
Yep, that is my point as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
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Well said. I tend to fall into this trap when people are going after religion. Two wrongs do not make a right and I am guilty of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
It would probably be best if we discontinued this discussion.
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Again, all of this over a shitty football player. :fp:
Nevermind, I'm done.
Anyways... BACK ON THE TOPIC OF THE NFL...
I will be very intertested to see how Tebow and the Broncos do against stronger competition. They have played some pretty weak teams lately and were blown out against a good team. I'm not impressed by Teboew as much as I am by Denver's upstart defense. Love Tebow or hate him, it's still a fascinating story.
I consider myself a Christian. Not perfect but nor do I claim to be..there is a place and time for everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Anyway looking forward to what the Bengals/Ravens game holds. Since Steelers are on a bye I'll check out a few games Sunday
Go Bungles! :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
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Not sure what this play call was :D
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Snaggle tooth.
Broncos waived Orton. Looks for the Chiefs, Bears, and/or Texans to claim him. Not sure about the Dolphins anymore after the trade talks fell through.
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Orton got cut. With all the QB injuries out there Denver is looking to save 2.6 million if someone claims him.
Haha I like those memes JB
Claimed off the waiver wire by the team that traded him to begin with (Chicago) to replace the player that he got traded for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
I feel for Orton. The kid plays hard and does what he can with the skill he has. I wish him the best of luck BACK in Chicago but I suspect the fans will get on him quick.
I don't think the fans will hate on Orton too bad. He's been gone awhile and fans are far more critical of starting QBs they think stink. Stopgaps and backups are given more leeway. They will live with him until Cutler returns.
As a Bears fan, I never hated Orton.
Bears (who are 30th in the waiver order) did make a claim on him. It's unknown if the Chiefs (who are 9th in the waiver order) are going to want to make the claim and pay him $2.5M. The Texans seem all but out of it because they don't have the cap space and don't want to make moves to accommodate it.
According to Shefty:
Kyle Orton was claimed on waivers -- by a still unidentified team before Chicago.
Chiefs claimed Orton...
Bears signed Josh McCown to backup Hanie. Great pickup (in terms of a solid backup), has a great knowledge of Martz' type of offense.
I understand Suh is frustrated, but he has to control his emotions. He is unfortunately earning his rep as a dirty player.
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Wow. That's some shit. I didn't get to see it live, but that's pretty fucked up. He clearly meant to step on him even though he says that he didn't. Definitely some seriously dirty play, but, at the same time, that type of stuff happens ALL the time it's just rarely caught in the scrum of players. Suh is getting the Terrell Owens treatment of everyone paying the attention to the smallest detail of his actions.