Madden NFL 12 Impressions - Retail

Lol. Not directing this at what Rudy said, just at all the sentiment about games taking too long.

When you guys finish a game, add up Pass attempts, rush attempts, and sacks for both teams. In the 130 range is realistic. If you'er near that, I don't care if you were using 7, or 10, or 12-minute quarters - your games aren't taking less time than my 15-minute quarter games. I'm just running more time off, snaps are snaps.

I understand if you don't mind having skewed stats or games with 80 snaps or something - that's your prerogative. I just don't like the fact that there are options for Play Now that are obviously missing from Franchise Mode. It's an obvious oversight, there's no way it is intentional.

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Originally Posted by Rudy

The fumble slider should be under the running game sliders Jaymo. At least I hope it's there in franchise mode because I know it's there from the main menu. I just popped my game in and I can't even use my online code to get the new rosters. Servers are down or something but that may also be with the PSN too. Not sure.

As for quarter length, stats and number of plays take a backseat to length of games. My games have to be under an hour, stats be damned. If it goes an hour or more I get bored and annoyed.

Do I have to use my online code to get the rosters or how do I get the new ones? Obviously I can't check until the servers open up but I need the new ones.

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Thanks Rudy, I will check that out. With regards to ONLINE, maybe it's a Canadian thing but with SEASON PASS I had a heck of a time accessing the EA servers. One night it took several hours. Yesterday was 25 minutes. To answer your Q, yes you need to use your online pass to get the rosters. The rosters will be under the ONLINE section (subsection rosters). Cheers!

The PlayStation Network is apparently undergoing maintenance. I can't get into EA's servers either, but the PS Store is down for maintenance so, I'm guessing that's the problem.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

The PlayStation Network is apparently undergoing maintenance. I can't get into EA's servers either, but the PS Store is down for maintenance so, I'm guessing that's the problem.

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Thanks for that bad news. I haven't been able to connect all night. Tried when I put the game in around 7, tried a little later and just now. Finally got the kids to bed and I'm going to go play but it sucks that I can't use updated rosters. I simply can't play with Miami and not have Bush while stuck with Ronnie Brown.

I've played two amazing games in a row where I just completely dominated my opponent from the opening kick off. I've given up hope trying to run anything that resembles a spread and my offense has since done extremely well since moving to a mix of SB, I, Strong, and Shotgun. I've gone for 250 yards passing and 100 yards rushing in both games that were done after 3 quarters. I've also only given up a combined 14 points those two games, but that's probably a fluke.

EDIT: HOLY FUCK. In 12 games online, I'm 33% on 3rd down. That's flat out unacceptable.

3rd down conversions are definitely harder in retail than the demo. I am only around 40% on 3rd downs. However, I like the fact that it is more challenging.

I think it's a product of me running the ball more and getting myself in 3rd and medium and then simply not converting. Whenever I'm running my spread on NCAA, I rarely ever get into a 3rd down situation, so I'm definitely not adept at converting them. Of course, I guess that's obvious by my putrid conversion percentage. :D

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Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn

I think it's a product of me running the ball more and getting myself in 3rd and medium and then simply not converting. Whenever I'm running my spread on NCAA, I rarely ever get into a 3rd down situation, so I'm definitely not adept at converting them. Of course, I guess that's obvious by my putrid conversion percentage. :D

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Personally I need to improve my QB running skills. Too often I sit in the pocket and read the D. Next thing I know I'm face in the dirt and it's forth down. I think about it too much and by the time I decide to run it's too late.

Just make sure you slide. I've fumbled so many times online from not sliding it's not funny. Hell, my scramble percentage is less than 5% and I still manage to find a way to fumble when I do.

3rd game in a row now that I put up similar stats, this time in one half basically. Under center is definitely where the passing game is at this year. I've been tearing people up left and right with Strong Close.

I had fun last night. Got a little over 3 games in (including this morning) and I have to check other stuff out.

Quick hits:
*commentary wasn't that horrible. I guess my expectations were lowered enough along with not playing M11 that it wasn't too bad. Gus needs to say everyone's name too. And at the opening kickoff to say "the opposing team" rather than their real name just sounds sloppy
*the juke is better than NCAA - makes me happy
*I feel offense and the passing game is more open in Madden. I like this because I'm not a good offensive player and I'm simply a bad passer
*the sliders don't seem very responsive at all. Especially with a true 100 point system they need to be a LOT stronger
*kicking seems too easy and with only global sliders this may be bad. Good thing kickers in the NFL all hit 75 to 80% of their kicks or it might annoy me more
*really like some of the running plays out of the ACE in the Browns playbook. Quite a few different things that I never saw in NCAA.
*I don't like how if you move a defensive player and then switch to someone they don't line up right. If I accidentally move a CB while cycling through that CB won't move and won't line up right. Dumb.
*I'm absolutely horrible when trying to rush the passer as a DE. I'm not a big DL guy but the outside rush seems really hard.
*Overall the cpu offense and especially the running game on All-Pro is bad. I used my demo sliders but they need help here.
*San Diego tried to cover Megatron with LB Shaun Phillips man to man. He lined up over him when he was running a deep route out of an ACE set with him in the slot. Easy TD.
*I like the presentation although I'd like to see more replays for the half time and post game show
*I like how I can get the ball to my #1 WR better. Outside passing plays are easier to execute.
*I like how QBs have inaccurate throws on default. Crazy.

Overall I lost 24-13 with the Browns against the Cardinals. I was marching late, down 17-13 to get sacked, fumble and TD return. Beat Minnesota with Miami 31-14 and lost on the road to the Chargers with the Lions 16-13. I'm having fun. Not blown away but it's fun.

I have to say that I have been enjoying my time with the game so far. I absolutely LOVE Dynamic player progression. But I have some issues with the game, not game killers, but definitely issues:
*All-Pro, default sliders, is a little too easy and All-Madden, deafult sliders, the cpu feels too cheesy. With the 49ers, I avg. about 30 pts per game while only giving up 7 pts. (The only change I made to the team was trading for VY)
*In my 6 games, I've made the cpu fumble in every game, multiple times.
*I may have messed up here so take this with a grain of salt. After importing my draft class for franchise, none of those players are showing up to scout. There are players, but none of them even resemble those I imported. This worries me b/c I planned on trying to get Justin Blackmon to pair up with Crabtree

Who do I PM glitches to? This one is pretty bad.

For the record, I timed my last game. It took 1 hour and 11 minutes to play 15-minute quarters.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

For the record, I timed my last game. It took 1 hour and 11 minutes to play 15-minute quarters.

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thats a little rich for my blood:) just a tad too long

That's not bad. I thought you'd be getting around the 2 hour mark with 15min quarters. 45 minutes is probably my sweet spot. More than enough time to get enough possessions in against someone, but not long enough that I'm just trying to end the game.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

For the record, I timed my last game. It took 1 hour and 11 minutes to play 15-minute quarters.

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Is that with or without gameflow on???

Hey online can other person see you look at your play...i'm a little slow don't usually play madden online on ncaa you can still look at your recievers without reveiling the play

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

Is that with or without gameflow on???

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I don't use Game Flow. On offense, I use Ask Madden - however - about 40% of the time I don't like any of his suggestions. At that point, I usually select by formation but, occasionally I'll select by Play Type. It keeps me calling different plays from different sets. On defense, I always call my own plays. I have started to sim all special teams plays to offset the lack of separate sliders for Users and the CPU.

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Originally Posted by Sinister

Hey online can other person see you look at your play...i'm a little slow don't usually play madden online on ncaa you can still look at your recievers without reveiling the play

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no one can see your play

With 9 minutes and 20 second accelerated clock it still takes me around an hour or less. If I go 8 minutes the number of plays is just a little too low for my tastes.

Can we do formation subs in franchise mode? I know you can do the formation subs at the play calling menu but good luck doing what you want as the play clock dwindles down. I certainly hope we can set them in franchise and not have to redo them every game. I want Jason Taylor in on the pass rush as a DE with Wake (I can use double LB rush but still have to sub in JT for Misi).

The game definitely makes it easier for DTs to rush the passer than DEs. I hope they can tune that. On OS they said it's largely due to DEs have low block shed ratings. Block shedding should be split between run and pass defence.