Surprised that Nebraska didn't get any votes in either poll, guess we'll have to win up to and including Missouri to get votes.
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Surprised that Nebraska didn't get any votes in either poll, guess we'll have to win up to and including Missouri to get votes.
Meh they aren't Top 25 material as of now. I'd put them around 40. Lunardi has them as the last of the Next 4 out (meaning 8 places out of making the tourny currently).Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Anyone watch the Nova/Cuse game last night? Both teams looked very beatable, sloppy sloppy play on both side. Other than Pitt the Big East isn't looking too strong down the stretch.
I watched it and yes that is about standard for these two teams. I like both Pitt and St. John's, with St. John's as a nice sleeper team (while not so much now that they are inside the top 25) to make a good march madness run. Very Sr laden as a team which could be huge down the stretch here.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Yeah what pisses me off is that UConn is going to get into the dance because they are ranked in the Top 25 and are 9th in the Big East. and a team like Notre Dame or St. John's is going to get left out.
Edit - Notre Dame is ranked and will get in.
St. Johns should get it.
Sitting at 17-9 with games against:
Depaul
@Vill
@Seton Hall
USF
They should go atleast 3-1 in these games and be in good position to win 2 in the Big East Tourney.
The Big East is going to get 10-11 teams this year.
Pitt
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Louisville
St. John's
Syracuse
Villanova
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Marquette
No way. I don't think there's any way they put 10 in from one conference. 9 would be pushing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I don't see Marquette getting in or WVU, but I could see them putting the other 9 teams in.
I still think they should have garnered some votes. They've had votes once or twice earlier this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Marquette is the only team on that list that won't make it in unless WVU drops all of their last 4 games and then flubs it up in the tourney.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
Big East is going to shatter the teams in the tournament record with at least 10 teams.
WVU is really facing a tough finishing stretch.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
@Pitt
@Rutgers (who is playing tough at home)
UConn
Louisville
If they go 1-3 there that puts there record at 18-12 which I'm not sure is a good thing heading into conference play where they'll face Nova, Cuse, UConn...just not a good matchup for WVU.
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Just an FYI -
ESPN/Lunardi has all 11 of the teams I listed above currently in the field (none in the last 4 in either).
Seeds
Pitt - 1
Georgetown - 3
Notre Dame - 3
Louisville - 4
Villanova - 4
UConn - 4
Syracuse - 5
West Virginia - 6
St. John's - 6
Cincinatti - 8
Marquette - 11
ONLY one of those teams is even remotely in trouble of not making the tourny - Marquette. Quite frankly even if the Golden Eagles stumble someone on the bubble is going to have to do something impressive to knock them out.
Also SI has all 11 of those teams making it with very similar seedings - Marquette is again the lowest at a 12 seed.
I think its pretty safe to say the question is whether the BE gets 10 or Marquette make it 11 teams in the field.
EDIT: if this were a 64/65 team field I think Marquette is on the outside looking in right now. IMHO unnecessary expansion of the tourny is going to allow a bunch of quite frankly mediocre (at best) college teams get into the tourny.
I would not want to play ND in the tourney. Man are they hot right now. I know they just came off a smack down of Villanova but they have been on a roll for awhile.
The Irish are indeed a solid ball club and looking at a #2 or #3 seed. I would certainly rather see BYU than Notre Dame as my #2. However, I'm not sure the Irish would strike any more fear than a #2 seed: Duke or Purdue. I'd say Notre Dame and Texas are a bout a wash right now (Texas sliding Notre Dame climbing)Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
If the Irish end up as a #3 seed I don't think there will be any tougher outs as a #3 seed than Notre Dame.
I'm sorry but unless Notre Dame gets to play the entire tournament in South Bend, the don't have a prayer of beating a good team.
Chicago (1st 2 rounds) close enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
I'm sure they'll get that, but then, after that, where would they play? Probably no where close to Illinois and thus once they play a good team they'll get plastered.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Well none of the regional sites are "close" (Newark; San Antonio; Anaheim; New Orleans). Then again none of the major threats to cut down the nets are really that "close" either.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
In Lunardi's bracket assuming no upsets Notre Dame takes on North Carolina in the Sweet 16. I'd say that game is basically a pick em (although I'd be inclined to go with UNC right now). IMHO, a Sweet 16/Elite 8 apperance isn't "crazy" for the Irish.
VERY few teams play "well" on the road. In the NCAA Tourny Duke's run last year (beating Baylor in TX and Butler in IN) comes to mind as a team "tough" enough to pull out those essentially road games out.
Other than a Texas in the Final 4 scenario after the 1st Two rounds (where the NCAA is supposed to "protect" high seeds with games "close" to home) it will be neutral court games. If Texas gets a Tulsa; San Antonio; Houston draw they could really be in a drivers seat to cut down the nets.
The CPU's give Notre Dame 61.2% chance to make the Sweet 16; 19% chance to make the Final 4; 3.4% chance to Win the Championship. Personally, I think those odds are a little high (for deep runs) but pretty close.