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IE you dont do any research and just assume based on blissful ignorance. You couldnt care less and yet still it was televised and it came down to the final seconds and had unrealistic/debatable/questionable calls.( couldnt care less? you dont give 8 confidence points to a game you couldnt care less about)Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
I thought they would at least wait till the Michigan game to have Ohio State lose LOL apparently not
Lmao. So because that game ended up with 8 confidence points on it, I apparently cared? Newsflash dumbass, I only move the games between top teams (and expected to be close/could go either way) to the low point confidences and leave the rest wherever they end up. I don't rank every single game to a specific confidence. I rank half and leave the other half wherever they end up. But you go and keep assuming dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
And don't do any research of what? That the game was on TV? I know it was on TV, still didn't give a shit. Just because a game is on TV doesn't mean I watch it. Here's a list of every game on ABC, CBS, FOX or ESPN Networks that I didn't watch today:
Illinois-Minnesota
Memphis-Temple
Michigan-Penn State
North Carolina-Virginia Tech
Purdue-Iowa
Arizona-Arizona State
Houston-UConn
LSU-Ole Miss
UCLA-Utah
USC-Oregon
Wake Forest-Clemson
Louisville-Pittsburgh
Oh, and Wisconsin-Northwestern wasn't even on network TV. It was on the Big Ten Network. So only a fraction of the nation would have even given a shit about that game, and 95% of those interested were either in Big Ten country, or were specifically Wisconsin or Northwestern fans. Not many people would go out if their way to watch a random ass game on Big Ten Network with some of the games being aired on CBS, ABC, FOX and the various ESPN Networks today.
Hell, you ask half the nation, they probably don't even know what channel Big Ten Network is on. But, of course, despite literally not a fucking soul on this site mentioning Wisconsin and Northwestern because none of us gave a shit about that game, yes we all saw that ending and were lapping up that drama like the drooling masses we are. :fp:
What a fucking moron.
So ram, what's your excuse for getting your San Fran pick WRONG this week?
whats your excuse for ignoring that I basically got everything else right that no one else did? I'm still in first place if you didnt notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
YES, I thought they would bunch everyone up and let SF win that game but I still got every early game right while the rest of you made what you thought were logical picks ( which they were,you just got screwed) this proves only that I cant predict the future but I was still better than everyone else because I picked based on what the NFL wants and not who I think is better.
No one is lucky for 2 months straight. Its not luck.
just continuing the pattern of how when you guess wrong, it's no big deal, but when we guess wrong, you make it front page news.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
You're an idiot. Plain and simple for believing games are fixed. We've told you time and time again, when every game follows the same set of rules, you can't pick and choose which ones work to fit in with your claim.
Preach it brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
You wouldn't be winning or up by much if I hadn't forgotten a full week plus parts of this and another.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
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Oh and Ram went against the grain on the 3 afternoon games and went 0-3.
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Yes, no one isnt aware of that. If you read above I already stated the afternoon games prove I cant predict the future but my system is better then everyone who missed 4/5/6 or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
pay attention immature boy,for I have already explained it twice. I am having fun like everyone else. This isnt the most important thing but its part of this thread. Its not about what I get right or wrong or if its better than anyone. Its about me telling you I'm getting picks right that they get wrong because i'm not picking based on perceived strength of team or football knowledge. You are the one with the cliche perception that i'm ducking anything if I pick wrong. I havent denied or lied about anything. I'm doing the typical male competition lingo. I'm preety sure JB and Smooth get that for the most part. And they should have memory where I have actually apologized for getting too insulting or seen me edit something I typed that was admittedly harsh. I hold no ill will but dammit,sure I'm pissed because I know eventually theyll get it.Quote:
just continuing the pattern of how when you guess wrong, it's no big deal, but when we guess wrong, you make it front page news.
You're an idiot. Plain and simple for believing games are fixed. We've told you time and time again,
you are just babbling again. You dont even know what you are saying. If I'm an idiot that means you are many levels beneath me because I'm picking more games right when its supposed to be a complete mystery who wins. LOl at you calling me an idiot. What the hell am I picking to work for me or not? we are all picking the same games and I'm picking better then you. You just cant comprehend why its happening so you lash out and call me an idiot.Quote:
when every game follows the same set of rules, you can't pick and choose which ones work to fit in with your claim.
why didnt you pick Okla State or UCLA this week If I know nothing?
then why arent you beating me with your real football knowledge?Quote:
You're an idiot. Plain and simple for believing games are fixed.
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and? so? lol..JB ,you are a little more analytical with your picks but you and CDJ need to stop being homers with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdvUR67nZs0
its called having fun basballmvp,try it sometime
you see....
week 10 should have taught you. They want to just have every week be a toss up and eventually have everyone like an 8-8 team with no clue who's winning.
ive explained 21 times thats not the point. Besides that I'd still be top 2 anyway. I dont have to know how i'm being deceived to know i'm being deceived. My picks are an experiment and you are the lab rats.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I've already created the file in your head and one day youll actually open it.
Ram.....
1) Not ONE time have I seen ANYONE brag about their "football knowledge." Not ONCE have I seen anyone say, "I got these picks right because I'm so smart and full of football knowledge." I have no idea where you're getting this from.
2) Yay! Your "theory" helps you pick games against the grain. Still not proof. A script, an outline, a confession. That's proof.
Games ARE NOT staged. End of discussion.
Not being a homer Ram. Da Bears were on the upswing, the Broncos weren't and we're starting Osweiler. I've picked against Da Bears many times this season.
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http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11...0fe87d239f.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
BINGO! Ram won't care thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Right. And that's coming from someone who played both college and pro ball. He had the chance to expose the whole system and he said its idiotic to even think it.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
LOLOL how does showing a guy making a negative comment towards the possibility with a deflective weak argument on the very network that only cares to protect its own interest prove anything counter to what i've said? Asking to tell him who fixed it proves its not? calling him idiotic proves its not? You guys always point at these shows that they are just fluff and dont tell you anything interesting or informative about the upcoming games... but him making a prepped, deflective insult with no examples to support it make him an authority and trusted opinion? a 52 second video of a stupid morning show comment is supposed to counter me? try harderQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Peter Gent played too..
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For there should be a fundamental difference between professional and amateur sports that goes beyond the technical distinction of whether athletes make money from their sport. I learned the difference at the end of training camp my rookie year with the Dallas Cowboys. Management called a meeting to explain the responsibilities of being a professional football player. The man to give the best advice was the team's public relations director. He told us: "Boys, this is show business." With these words in mind, nothing about professional sports, even Howard Cosell, is mystifying. Professional athletes are first and foremost show business, dealing in illusion and entertainment. The first responsibility of the players is to the audience, not themselves. If the audience wants winners, that is what is given. If it wants losers, that also it will get. The principle is the same for midget wrestling and the National Football League."
No where in any of that did Peter Gent, A WRITER, say anything about ANYTHING being written.
Try again
yes,you are right...first time back ups shouldnt win games. It should make you question things.Trust your own judgement.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
LOL cognitive dissonance is a horrible disease. He's a past NFL player who became a writer and he just told you what they were told in a nfl meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
I hate to brake this to you but thats not any form of a counter argument.So you have no football knowledge but i'm the one who doesnt know what he's talking about because I get more picks right?Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
You are still trying to say that i've been nothing but lucky consistently for 10 weeks?
People have in fact told me here that I know nothing about football. That implies They have more football knowledge.
You are right to a degree. I dont have to know anything about football. I just need to associate it with a typical movie or tv show plot as to what the public wants to see and I'll usually be right.
We are not and have NEVER argued about football knowledge. No one cares what methods anyone uses to make picks.
The debate is about whether games are staged.
@Smooth
I love you too. Happy Thanksgiving !
and the field work with my picks is good circumstantial evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
then why is what you consider a false method working for me?Quote:
No one cares what methods anyone uses to make picks
Field work?Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
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Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Once again. no one cares about the method in which you make picks. You can draw names out of a hat and be successful. That is NOT the argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
The argument is whether games are staged. Games being staged and how you make your picks are 2 different things. It's sad though that you think there's a correlation between the two.
For the record ram, in the 120 picks that we've made in the college pickem, I've only picked 10 more games incorrectly than what you have. So you are not way better at picking than what I am. You have a lot more points because I homered some picks at high confidence and got them wrong.
You are also pointing out that I'm smart enough to arrange the point system so it works in my favor. I have a better idea which games are doubtful.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
actually, since we all know the same general knowledge about who's good or who isnt..10 games adds up to you getting an entire week wrong,50 points...which is a lot.
( just some competitive male banter :) i'm not being mean )
Happy Thanksgiving! Be safe
then do it and prove it. Intellectually thats a moronic statement to begin with and you know itQuote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
hey college educated guy,pay attention. If i'm getting picks right based on the direction I think they want to go,that means i'm doing more than just looking at each individual match up on its own. I'm seeing how each team and game affects the other i've been right numorous times picking teams everyone assumed was the underdog,while still staying in the top 2.I'm not picking who I think I would pick, or I would be in the middle of the bunch with the rest of you. You cant do that randomly out of a hat. You cant just get lucky 10 weeks in a row or pick names 10 weeks in a row to be successful.
dude,seriously, think about what you just said.
from another fan forum
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This all the way! Been watching the NFL for 32+yrs now and today for the 1st time ever I'm considering letting this sport go. It really has nothing to do with the loss last night but, with how stupid and dictating the zebra clowns have become the last few years destroying numerous games league wide. Every thing just seems or appears way, way too scripted.
NFL = Vegas WWE??? I heard this for along time and thought whatever. This year has really opened my eyes to the possibility it's rigged directly through the REFS.
Was shocked to read this from the Boston Globe actually about last nights game. Some fans and now media outlets are starting to wake up.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...aJM/story.html
Are you really this stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
NO
ONE
CARES
ABOUT
YOUR
PICKS.
Your picks, DO NOT, IN ANYWAY, PROVE that games are staged. The argument IS NOT about "football knowledge." It IS NOT about your dumb ass methodology.
The argument is about whether games are staged. Once again,
YOUR
PROCESS
FOR
PICKING
GAMES
DOES
NOT
PROVE
GAMES
ARE
STAGED.
STOP trying to correlate your picks with your theory because as someone who actually studied how statistics work, in multiple classes, in college, there is NO correlation between your picks and proving your point.
On the other hand, MULTIPLE PEOPLE with FIRSTHAND knowledge have said that your theory is dumb and idiotic and somehow, YOU discredit them/us but some wackado you found on the internet is credible and reliable source even though he hasn't shown a shred of evidence either.
In addition to random whackadoos, don't forget random ass unknown people on random ass fan sites and other forums. As shown by Douchecanoe's newest post, clearly those people are instantly 100% believable but anyone who speaks against his belief, even those who actually played and coached in the fucking NFL, well, they're just lying bastards. :fp:Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
And over the 12 weeks we've been picking, 10 games is less than 1 a week, which isn't very much. You're not smarter about the whole ranking thing, just more objective. I've homered quite a few USC and fucla picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
theres 10 games a week. That counts as a whole week.You just said you are a homer and I'm objective,therefore I'm not the smarter one? seriously? you just said? I suppose you are going to tell me you have a college degree too?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
just to reiterate: you picked a team based on emotionally liking it. I picked a team based on whether I think they win or not regardless of favoritism and I was right more often. Which is the objective of the event.Yes, I would have to say that makes me smarter :)
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Originally Posted by souljahbill
I just quoted a fans view. I didnt say it proved anything? You posting an ex player making a comment for 60 seconds with no in depth explanation does not qualify as any form of a counter point. You are telling me that if you asked your kid if he did the dishes, you would believe him with out looking. With no solid evidence what so ever. Believing a guy making a comment on tv is the same principle. AND I debunked your stupid -I asked a coach/trainer story- quite thoroughly, 3 or 4 times.
furthermore, a guy on a pro pro-sports station is making a comment positive towards the people who pay him because if he didnt he'd get fired.
you seriously have no critical thinking skills to speak of. You are having faith in nothing more than a few quotes while I have done 2 years of research. You said you could get multiple picks right just randomly guessing. You know its one of the more ridiculous things you've said.
You show a early morning show quickie comment of a guy reading a stupid twitter comment and just acting disgusted like a popular kid in school going " dude, thats just wrong man, you dont know what you are talking about man"...and thats some form of proof?
I show you an ex player who said all players were told in a meeting "you are entertainers and you win or lose as needed". whether you believe it or not, it looks my guy has a more well thought out response from first hand experience
You didn't debunk anything, clown. You can't debunk the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Everyone here has debunked your theory countless times as it has more holes than a porn star.
That's NOT what that dude said. Learn to read.
2 years of research with no proof to give or show? You wasted 2 years of your life. Even kids in a middle school science fair know that have to show procedures, data, variables, conclusion, etc. You don't have shit so your research isn't even on the same level as a child.