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Well crap haha. Guess that screws my post on it. My wife was grumbling earlier because I was downloading huge stadium pictures and killing our network connection while she was watching Netflix; she thinks we should be emailing the schools directly to ask where their bands sit instead of doing all this haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
EDIT
I'd agree with the front of Section 138 based on that picture compared to the seating chart.
I've reached out to schools in the past on aspects. We'd be extremely lucky to get responses from 25%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paakaa10
Doesn't surprise me given how poorly some of the sites are set up. Going through the 120 college athletics sites was eye-opening, to say the least haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
New Mexico Bowl
Away Team
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/...d7acc84f_b.jpg
Home Team
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/...fa7a6ed7_b.jpg
Seating Chart
http://www.2-tickets.com/venues/unm_stadium.gif
Pinstripe Bowl - Yankee Stadium
Panoramic Image
Seating Chart (PDF)
Home Band: Section 239
Away Band: Section 201
MTSU - Johnny Floyd Stadium
Section: 3E 471
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
Seating chart
http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11426/images/stadiumseating.gif
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2439/...032d2059_o.jpg
The numbers look good to me; nice find!Quote:
Originally Posted by OSUCowboyofMD
Tulsa - Skelly Field at H.A. Chapman Stadium
Section: Front of 107
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
Seating Chart (PDF)
Home Band: Front of Section 107
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dscott28604/3099151874/
Away Band: Front of Section 101
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dscott28604/3098321241/
http://www.sunbowl.org/images/storie...n_bowl_map.png
Away Band: Front of Section 8
Home Band: Front of Section 19
Notre Dame band in this picture:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_86_d0RuN5kQ/TR...Dcc/image.jpeg
And another picture from a past year's game.
http://image54.webshots.com/154/5/38...5bswDQp_fs.jpg
Miami Band Location (Empty) (Link)
Miami Band in bleachers:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/...e8999cd5_o.jpg
No idea where the visiting band sits or where the UTEP band sits; the student section for UTEP, however, is apparently on the other side of the stadium.
Based on some finagling with the seating chart...Quote:
Originally Posted by OSUCowboyofMD
http://www.stubhub.com/data/venue_ma...d_Football.png
Looks like the home band sits at the bottom of Section 107 based on the picture; the away band would then be in Section 101.
EDIT
However, those sections would seem to disagree with the labeling on the official athletic site's seating chart here: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...ng-diagram.pdf On that chart, Section 107 would be the visiting section and Section 101 would be the home student section. Maybe it hasn't been updated lately?
Western Michigan - Waldo Stadium
Section: Back half of R
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
The Western Michigan band sits in the back half of Section R in the Student Section of Waldo Stadium; here's the seating chart:
http://ev9.evenue.net/evenue/linkID=...s/waldo_09.gif
And live photographs:
http://commondatastorage.googleapis....l/16022810.jpg
http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pi...0519210558.jpg
And a shot of the empty band section:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/...281f62.jpg?v=0
Vanderbilt - Vanderbilt Stadium
Home Band: Front of Section Q
Away Band: Front of Section U
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
Per wEEman33 at OperationSports.com...
http://www.2-tickets.com/venues/Vand...tadium_all.GIF
This is one of the worst "official" seating charts I've found in the past few days of searching.
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/vand/gr...agram-2009.jpg
According to that seating chart, who knows what section you would say the band is in based on this picture:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/...4c4e6772_o.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5205/...f327a905_o.jpg
I would say between Sections P & Q. Based on this next seating chart, it looks more like Section Q; really hard to tell how high up the band is sitting though.
S38 looks right. The Seating Chart specifies they're in S38, and based on the pics, I think that's right. It may be one half of S38 at the worst, but it's hard to tell, so going with the seating chart is a safe bet, since the pics seem to corroborate.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Just wanted to bring this up so that we could figure out what we want to do about it. I haven't found any seating chart or photograph that shows anything in terms of where the band sits at Fouts Field, the current/former home of the North Texas Mean Green.
The team is actually slated to begin playing in an as-yet-unnamed new stadium for the 2011 season, which obviously will have no reference materials to work with in terms of establishing where the band would sit.
Do we want to keep trying to look for where the band sits/sat at Fouts Field, even though a new stadium will likely be in play beginning this fall?
Yeah, I think NT is going to be a really hard one ...
Could ask Lar1212 if he can help us out.
This is the only pic I can find, but there are no distinguishing points in it. However, you can tell WKU is in their own territory and - correct me if wrong - I'm not seeing a way to recreate that picture if they are still in Sec. 135. The pic is from 2008, so you'd think it would override the seating chart that didn't even have the other set of stands shown yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paakaa10
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/...fb1c07d5_o.jpg
Up to #166 in compiling. Will pick back up tomorrow afternoon. Awesome job, everyone. Very impressive.
I actually think it's saying that there's a small segment of allocated visitors' seating in 107/108, not labeling the entire section as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paakaa10
Here's the 2008 seating chart ... it's slightly (only slightly) better: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/...ting-chart.pdf
Based on some other photos I've found, there are definitely Tulsa fans sitting in the 107/108 sections, so I think I'm right about there just being a small designated "Visiting Team" area ... probably for Will Call tickets.
This looks like a pre-renovation picture, and from the number of color-coordinated people on the right side of the picture, I'd say the band was in 135. Based on your picture, I'd say put them in the smack middle of the away side of the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Based on this pic, maybe 127? There seems to be a mass concentration of white in that area by the cheerleaders. This may be one we can't solve...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
https://admin.xosn.com/pics/800/WF/W...DB_OEM_ID=5400
EDIT - Actually, those look like tubas in the lower left which would place the band in 135 or 136 or so.
I'd say we try and figure out where it was in the old stadium and provide that for an 'educated guess' for their new stadium if it is in NCAA 12. Sometimes new stadiums don't get in unless the team gets a chance to visit it once officially opened to get measurements, pics, etc. as was the case with Minnesota's TCF Bank Stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paakaa10
i think i might have found a picture close enough. But again this looks like a pre-renovation pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by cdj
[SCROLL TO THE VERY BOTTOM]
http://alumni.wku.edu/s/808/images/e...tadium1280.jpg
They are cut off in the bottom right.
OSU, if you're talking about the picture in the bottom row on the left, that's the same one I linked to. It's definitely pre-renovation.
Colorado State - Hughes Stadium
Section: Front 3/4 of N
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
Based on this video:
Spoiler: show
The band sits at the 50 yard line of the student section taking up about the bottom 3/4s
Section N??
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/csu/gra...atingChart.gif
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1213/...a14b074d_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/...946b6a3c_o.jpg
Panorama (Link)
I just wanted to start today off with another round of thanks and congratulations for all who have been part of this conversation and research to help the NCAA development team. As a few have said, I'm sure nobody down at EA HQ would've expected us to put forth these results within just a few days of web-based research. The well seems to be drying up at the other three places that this call has been posted--except for the odd contributor telling us something we already have written down--so it looks like it's down to us to continue the research on the last few school stadiums and what we have left of the bowl games.
Chris (cdj), do note that the Sun Bowl sponsorship has changed to Hyundai from Brut; just didn't want there to be any confusion when you go through and add to our tally and see that I've listed it as the "Hyundai Sun Bowl" in my post.
I'll literally be driving out of Maine on my way to Michigan at this time next week, so my research and posting availability here might be a little limited as we get our things packed in the week to come. I'll try to make the time to search and add at least one section--based on what's left over--each night leading up to then.
Thanks all!
This is a good point. Makes sense to plan for Fouts Field then because it might be a few years of development before the team can get bands in their sections anyway. From the Wikipedia on the new stadium, it didn't sound 100% promising for North Texas playing there on time either. At least we can probably consult NCAA 11 and look at Fouts Field to try and figure out where the student section is versus the away team section for a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
You've got way better eyes than I do if you're seeing tubas in the lower left of that picture haha. In some of these cases, we might need to just do the best that we can and then leave it to the dev team to actually contact athletic departments or something. At least with these pictures we've provided something to work with when this becomes something they can do in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl--formerly known as the Emerald Bowl--is played annually at the home of the San Francisco Giants, AT&T Park. I have yet to play that bowl myself in NCAA 11, but I'm assuming that the team doesn't have the license to use the actual stadium. Regardless, I've tried to do some research on where the bands sit. Here's the seating chart:
http://grfx.cstv.com/schoolslt/embl/...OWLseatmap.gif
Home Band: Front of Section 137
Away Band: Front of Section 108
The California band sat in Section 137 according to these pictures from the 2008 game:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...erald_Bowl.JPG
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...l/13565782.jpg
This picture MIGHT show where the other band sits--in Section 108 or so behind the opposite end zone--but I'm not sure because it might just be an empty section:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/...2ac4e5de_o.jpg
I have yet to see a shot that shows a band on either side of the field, so I'm thinking that bands are behind endzones.
Eastern Michigan - Rynearson Stadium
Section: Front of 102
http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/ima...ighlighted.png
http://easterneagles.wordpress.com/2...arson-stadium/
http://www.stubhub.com/data/venue_ma...m_Football.pngQuote:
the EMU Marching Band, “The Pride of the Peninsula” currently sits at the front of section 102, and generally speaking,
I've seen video of the Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl in NCAA 11 and I'm pretty sure it's just contested in a generic outdoor stadium for the sake of the game; another one of those issues with licensing the actual Tropicana Field layout, assuredly. Nonetheless, since this research is being done for future reference, here's the seating chart:
http://www.stpetersburgbowl.com/imag...um-seating.png
http://ucfknights1.files.wordpress.c..._4409377_n.jpg
Home (LOU) Band: Front of Sections 140 & 138 (Better pic)
Away (USM) Band:
Here's a live shot to show the layout in the stadium:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...e-1024x768.jpg
Haven't been able to find any really solid pictures of the crowd during the game being played at this point, however.
EDIT
Wouldn't blow me out of the water to learn that the bands sit behind the endzones in the same way that they do at AT&T Park for the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl/Emerald Bowl, however. Seems to be a preferred arrangement for these football-in-baseball-stadium setups.
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We already have the home team band's location, and now I've found the away team band location.
Home Band: 138 & 140
AWAY BAND: 111 & 113
Seating Chart:
http://ucfknights1.files.wordpress.c..._4409377_n.jpg
Pictures with the away band in the background and some sweaty dudes in front of them:
http://cdn.wn.com/pd/dc/60/105df03b8...53aa_large.jpg
http://cdn.wn.com/pd/d0/a0/f12dc1ad0...c4c5_large.jpg
You can see the section label for 209 above the band in the first picture above, which is how I got the section here.
Actually, now that I look at it with a night's rest, those aren't tubas but rather the other team's cheerleaders (or people in yellow/gold). :D I'm baffled on where their band may be. My guess now is back to 127 (approximately) by the cheerleaders in red.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paakaa10
Now I KNOW that Reliant Stadium is in the NCAA games, so this one is more relevant in the short term; looks like one team band (Away band) sits in Section 135 and the other (Home band) sits in Section 115 on the seating chart below:
http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/i/n/r...texas-bowl.jpg
Here are images from the game being played in 2006:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_jeOocwsp1is/RZ...E/DSC01038.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_M9aZiLASzbA/RZ...w/DSCN0945.JPG
Another bowl game at an NFL field that I'm pretty certain is in NCAA; the bands sit in Sections 122 (Away) and 145 (Home) on the seating chart:
http://www.lpfield.com/images/seating-chart.jpg
The following picture from the 2008 game is pretty clear about the locations:
http://kykernel.com/wp-content/uploa...-Bowl-0417.jpg
On the far right of this 2009 game picture, you can see the bandleader's ladder in front of the band section behind the endzone:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lle_TN_USA.JPG
There's only been one TicketCity Bowl--this year's--but the stadium it is played it is far older and more historic. As far as I can tell from recent pictures of games played at the Cotton Bowl, the bands are seated in Sections 28 (Away) and 9 (Home):
http://www.2-tickets.com/venues/CottonBowl_all.GIF
Here are some pictures, first from the 2007 game:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...anoramic_2.jpg
Another picture from the same game in case anybody thinks I'm slightly off for section numbers:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...anoramic_1.jpg
Don't have the year for this picture, but the band is fairly easy to find:
http://files.sharenator.com/co2_Cott...x756-59971.jpg
And after a post about the old Cotton Bowl Stadium, might as well follow it up with the band information on the new Cotton Bowl Classic held at Cowboys Stadium; I can be pretty sure that the LSU band is in Section 145.
Home Band: Section 145
Away Band: Section 120
http://media.ticketcity.com/images/s...ONBOWL2010.GIF
You can see the SEC band section on the left side of the image behind these ladies:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fBuHDI961_...2011%2B040.JPG
Another view of that same band section from a different seat in the stadium:
http://somewhereinthesuburbs.files.w...ton-bowl-2.jpg
A&M Band open section here (Link)
From the historical pictures I've looked at for the Sugar Bowl at the Superdome, it would appear that the bands have special seating at field level during the course of the game; I don't have a good picture that shows both bands, but I would assume that these sections mirror one another. Let's begin with the seating chart:
http://www.allstatesugarbowl.org/piclib/2645.jpg
Virginia Tech's band on the right side of the picture:
http://image48.webshots.com/48/5/9/9...3YVqEgc_fs.jpg
Alabama's band at the top left of the picture at field level:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KtBux87oyOI/SW...l+2009+126.JPG
LSU's band at the top left at field level:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SIAhCww5Syw/Rp...4/IMG_3112.JPG
Both Bands on Field Level, Opposite Sides
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2239/...6b984a39_o.jpg
Both bands, field level opposite sides
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/...e4ff39ce_o.jpg
Yeah ... I wondered what the hell you were seeing last night, but decided to let it go in case I was missing something ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Also, Paakaa, your Virginia Tech image in the last post is a broken link.
If you click on it, it should open the full-size image; just did that and it worked for me. True that it doesn't show up within the post itself, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
This is also the home of the Arizona State Sun Devils, whose band sits in Section 37; from the actual Insight Bowl images I've been looking through, however, I've found a band placed in Section 24:
Home Band: Section 24
Away Band: Section 13
http://www.fiestabowl.org/images/upl...-Map-large.jpg
Here is the accompanying live image; note the section labels:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/...8b4973d8_o.jpg
A wider-angle shot presumable looking at the same band section:
http://img115.yfrog.com/img115/8994/e6pr.jpg
Haven't found any shots that show multiple bands yet.
EDIT (cdj)
Both Bands
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/3...6b10c116_o.jpg
This was far easier than I expected it to be; the bands sit in Sections (Away) 108 and (Home) 123:
http://www.hokiesports.com/football/...ko-seating.jpg
Empty space where Virginia Tech's band would be sitting:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Virginians.jpg
Band seated on the opposite side of the field from the above image:
http://www.vthokiefans.com/wp-conten...04fd352_b1.jpg