Fsu Defense need to be 96
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Fsu Defense need to be 96
Watch him this year, last year he was a true freshman in a screwed up situation. This year he's one year older with a hell of a coaching staff. He will be a monster within the next 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
God i hope not. Every year Ohio states down cincy has a better chance. Look what happened after cincy bball coach got fired...Ohio state got all of cincy recruits and beat them out as now the best team in ohio :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
< Eric hicks was the last great player from the Bob Huggins age...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I don't know about the top ten. Georgia 6, Arkanas 7 and FSU 8? Sorry but I just don't see it.
No, not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
Actually, it was the fact that Indiana was down and we got all of the Indiana recruits. We've signed one Cincinnati-area recruit since 2006. I'd say that's Thad Matta's doing, not the lack of competing with Cincinnati.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
Cincinnati area means nothing but walk ons and 2 stars. UC's pipeline was in Texas, florida and ect... UC was a national name. UC had the #1 recruit in the country and HE LEFT TO OHIO STATE WHEN BOB HUGGINS GOT FIRED. Ohio State did get cincy recuirts....and so did kansas st a few follow huggiens their for a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
The big 3 in basketball the most elite basketball schools ever IN HISTORY are UCLA, Cincy, and duke. Final 4, 3 times in arow. Thats great depth and these school won it all twice in arow 2! Cincy over Ohio state! without The big O.
True. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
Which, again, we haven't been recruiting that much. Ohio State can credit their rise to getting Indiana's recruits, not Cincinnati's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
I think you're confusing your fantasies. Huggins was fired in August of 2005. Greg Oden had announced he would be attending Ohio State two months earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
In history? Throughout all of basketball history? I know quite a few fans that would take exception to your list, in North Carolina alone. Not to mention Kentucky, Kansas, Syracuse or Indiana. Yes, Cincinnati won two straight, and yes, it was against Ohio State (side note: if you pointed that out because I'm an Ohio State fan, let me assure you I was well aware; I was also a fan of Nick Van Exel and Kenyon Martin), and yes, it was when only 24 schools were invited to the tournament. Impressive, but most elite ever? Hardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
Cincinnati didn't even make the tournament between 1977 and 1992. That's a pretty long stretch for one of the "most elite basketball schools ever".
Laughable. Michigan State cares more about playing Michigan than they do playing Wisconsin. Sparty/Whiskey isn't even an annual game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
yeah, but they do it based on their player ratings averages. It has nothing to do with real life predictions. I 'm sure they dont mind being close..but its not ultimately based on reality. It never can be anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by NatureBoy
95... ill take it
The thing that kills me is that Utah is a 95... can anyone explain to me how they determine ratings?
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Originally Posted by cmckinnon15
starting players
OJ Mayo where did he go to college??? He was up their and he was going to UC before that dark day in history happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
And im happy with the ratings, UC is a 89 and thats kinda up their :)(Best in the Big East). Even though i think they will be at that 6-6 mark....
Mayo went to USC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Steve
Mayo committed to Huggins at Kansas State first before switching to USC when Huggins left for WVU.Quote:
Originally Posted by IBI
But he didn't commit to Cincinnati, which is what seems to be the initial point/claim of the last couple posts and entire discussion. He initially committed to Kansas State, then went to USC when Huggins left for West Virginia. Cincinnati didn't "have him" and lost him. They never had him to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by razorback44
I'm assuming this is one of those after the fact message board rumors. Cincinnati kid commits to old Cincinnati coach at his new job so someone on a message board says he would have come to Cincinnati if Huggins hadn't been fired and here we are 6 years later it has been warped in to he actually did commit to Cincinnati at one point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
That sounds like a pretty accurate assessment to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by razorback44
He followed him to kansas state there for he would have go to UC if the coach had not been...sadly... fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by razorback44
He was commited to UC i'll find a link
No im wrong it was when huggiens was already coaching kstate.
I know it was someone big who backed out, must of turn out to be a bust.
I can only find this http://espn.go.com/colleges/basketba...132/class/2007 but it only goes back to 06 and you can see the toll taken by bob huggins leaving..... and the 07 all turned out to suck. Execpt Bishop if he was just a little more agressive might have been drafted.
Historically the Top 25 has not been based solely on player ratings. If that was true, it would simply be in order from highest OVR to lowest. And that hasn't been the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Or, for that matter, go to Ohio State.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross