Well you and I will NEVER agree on the current state of college basketball its causes and fixes.Quote:
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Well you and I will NEVER agree on the current state of college basketball its causes and fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
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Originally Posted by SCClassof93
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Florida Gulf Coast to the Sweet Sixteen!!!
Did they storm the court? I must have missed it. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Think you better worry about the Dukies getting past Creighton tonight. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
If they didn't, they should have. Florida Gulf Coast is a team that deserved to storm the court. A school that didn't exist until 1991, a team that wasn't even eligible for the NCAA tournament until last year, and now, in their first ever trip to the tournament, as a 15 seed, they're 2-0 and are going to the Sweet Sixteen. If that doesn't qualify for storming the court, I don't know what does! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CLW
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Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Well if they didn't storm the court for that then NOONE has the right to storm the court EVER! :nod:
I might have to actually watch their game next time they play. Probably means they'll lose though. I'm a fuckin' curse to these Cinderella stories.
I didn't get to see their game today, but I watched the entire second half of the Georgetown game. My god I love their style of play. They are a very relaxed, almost care free team. They pass the ball all over the place, throw up alley-oops, a couple times a player about to get trapped literally just no-look threw the ball over his shoulder and a teammate was either there to grab the pass or quickly ran over to where the pass was going. Georgetown couldn't keep up with these kids. They were sprinting all over the place, making ungodly passes, and chucking the ball up at the rim whenever a teammate was cutting to the basket. They play fast and loose with the ball, and it works!Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
I fired up College Hoops 2K8 earlier this morning, wanting to hit the hardwood due to March Madness. Starting up a legacy career, low and behold, Florida Gulf Coast was one of the mid-major teams the game allowed me take over as coach at the beginning of my legacy career. So I'm running a Florida Gulf Coast legacy dynasty now. I even ran my offense in my first game against Kent State exactly like the real life team, it works on there too. Playing fast and loose with the ball, Kent State could barely keep up with my up-tempo offense. I'm gonna have a blast with that legacy dynasty.
If +16 is the most "worry" I'll have during the tourny I'll be in pretty good shape. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
I could have told you there wasn't much to worry about when the brackets were announced even. Creighton is over hyped because of McDermott. They're going to get a nice no lube treatment in the "new" Big East next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Example #1 of why I love watching Florida Gulf Coast in this tournament. They play like they're the #1 seed. Playing unafraid and running the plays they run best, not trying to change up their tempo or style of who they are just because of who they're facing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlIBRkr4Ar4
(sigh) From fuckin' Parkersburg, WV. I REALLY hate college recruiting sometimes...
Hopefully this doesn't become a problem for FGCU....
Florida GC AD sweating costs
Come on they made up those costs alone in T-Shirt sales from all the well deserved publicity. Moreover, as the article indicates the "loss" is doing something extra (paying for wives and kids of coaches) plus throwing a party.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I think I want to get a FGCU shirt :D
That's great, but it doesn't help them RIGHT NOW. You're talking about a school that just started playing college athletics in '97 and, as the article quote says from their AD, their oldest alumni is 37 years old. Being a state funded school, their tuition is cheap (6k per year for instate, which, most likely, makes up quite a bit of their students) and they likely don't get much from their alumni base so it's pretty likely that they are worried about the money (their conference loaned them $25k to help with the travel expenses even).Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Just like with college football, these post season happenings are KILLING colleges because of the exorbitant travel costs they're having to pay and, since they aren't getting that money back from the post season institutions and tv networks that are airing them, they end up jacking out their tuition costs to help make up for it.
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Originally Posted by morsdraconis
:Miami: and :Ohio_State: in trouble
Yes! Ruin some brackets!Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
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I wouldn't mind one, maybe a poster with the coaches wife too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
My brackets would take a dump if they lose.
:Ohio_State: would be my 1st Final 4 miss i only had the u getting to the elite 8.
That's already on my bedroom ceiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
:Miami: goin' down in a blaze of glory
Thanks for the love, JB.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I'll take the win.
No love for Ohio State, more love for my brackets :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Louisville and Michigan State are my only remaining chances for points. I'm completely done, dead and red in the East, West and South regions. My only remaining hopes are Louisville and Michigan State winning tonight, and Louisville continuing through to and winning the title game.
Marquette has saved me from the bottom.
:Indiana: lays an egg and I lose my first Final 4 and National Champion so I'm done.
If Louisville loses, most of us are done. Only 9 people remain with an active National Champion, and 5 of us have Louisville.
..and I'll be rooting for Louisville to lose :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
This didn't take long to come out :D
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...ps82fcb540.jpg
And, now I have ZERO reason to watch the tournament anymore.
No interest in watching talent or competition?Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
If it's not a Cinderella story or WVU, I don't give a damn. College basketball is boring as hell otherwise. It's sloppy play and boring as hell zone defenses. I tune in occasionally to see a close game in the last 2 minutes or somethin' but, for the most part, it's just mediocre basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
Syracuse is the only Elite 8 team, to my knowledge, that employs zone the majority of the time.
After watching the Jimmy V 30 for 30, I wanted respond to this. You and I first disagreed about one-and-dones. You said they've ruined college basketball. My point was that one and dones, by themselves, have not. It's better, IMO, that they have to come to school at all than not. 20% of the "50 Greatest NBA Players" list were early entries. Without the NBA age limit, we can reasonably assume that most of the players who ended up declaring as freshmen wouldn't have come to school at all. So the talent level would be worse without the rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
It's clear, when compared to seasons like 1983 (holy shit UNC and Houston) or the early 90s (Fab Fave, Duke, UNLV, even Ohio State), that the talent level is lower. But it would be even worse without the age limit. Though, on that note, I would prefer a system like baseball's, as you suggested.
But going back to your comment that I'm quoting. You connected the two discussions, and in my eyes they are not. You called the field weak. I called it even. Perhaps you meant to only call the top seeds weak. But parity, IMO, is not weakness. The NFL has more parity today than ever before. That doesn't mean the NFL is less interesting without dominant teams. And that's how I view the tournament.
Yes, it means runs like Villanova and NC State won't happen again. That an underdog upsetting a top team won't have the same shock value. But it also means upsets are more likely. And games, across the board, are going to be closer. Because the separation between a 2nd seeded Ohio State and 11th seeded Minnesota isn't a massive talent gap. And I'm okay with that.
I don't think we really disagree on the state of the game. Or that early entrants are the cause of a lesser talent pool. But the talent has also spread (much like with scholarship limits in football), which makes the field more even. Not weaker.
Double.