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Such a bizarre story.
Unless that is one of the few planes to ever crash fully intact, wouldn't there be debris if it crashed in the ocean, I mean something has to be buoyant enough to float right?
From what I understand, there could (should?) be some parts, perhaps rafts, part of wings, and possibly oil streaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by oweb26
Latest "theory" has it possibly landing on a small island:
Yet another theory is taking shape about what might have happened to missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Maybe it landed in a remote Indian Ocean island chain.
The suggestion -- and it's only that at this point -- is based on analysis of radar data revealed Friday by Reuters suggesting that the plane wasn't just blindly flying northwest from Malaysia. And it's just one of untold theories floating around about what might have happened to the airliner, which disappeared a week ago Friday without leaving much of a trace of where it had gone or why.
Reuters, citing unidentified sources familiar with the investigation, reported that whoever was piloting the vanished jet was following navigational waypoints that would have taken the plane over the Andaman Islands.
The radar data don't show the plane over the Andaman Islands but only on a known route that would take it there, Reuters cited its sources as saying.
The theory builds on earlier revelations by U.S. officials that an automated reporting system on the airliner was pinging satellites for hours after its last reported contact with air traffic controllers. U.S. investigators concluded that the pings didn't come from other planes, leading some investigators to think the plane flew on for hours before truly disappearing.
Taken together, the data point toward speculation in a dark scenario in which someone took the plane for some unknown purpose, perhaps terrorism.
The movie-plot theory seems more complicated and unlikely than one in which the plane -- its flight crew perhaps incapacitated -- simply flew on until it ran out of fuel or faced some other problem. But it's one that law enforcement has to check out, former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom said.
"You draw that arc, and you look at countries like Pakistan, you know, and you get into your 'Superman' novels, and you see the plane landing somewhere and (people) repurposing it for some dastardly deed down the road," he told CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday.
Aviation experts say it's possible, if highly unlikely, that someone could have hijacked and landed the giant Boeing 777 undetected.
The international airport in Port Blair, the regional capital of the Andaman and Nicobar islands, has a runway that is long enough to accommodate a 777, according to publicly available data.
But the region is highly militarized because of its strategic importance to India, Indian officials with knowledge of the operation tell CNN, making it an unlikely target for pirates trying to sneak in an enormous airplane with a wingspan of more than 200 feet.
Denis Giles, editor of the Andaman Chronicle newspaper, says there's just nowhere to land such a big plane in his archipelago without attracting notice.
"There is no chance, no such chance, that any aircraft of this size can come towards Andaman and Nicobar Islands and land," he said.
The Malaysian government said Friday that it can't confirm the report.
And a senior U.S. official offered a conflicting account Thursday, telling CNN that "there is probably a significant likelihood" the plane is on the bottom of the Indian Ocean.
That's a real "nice" part of the world to land in lots of "interesting" governments in that circle.
Compare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAdrQ2RpdM
With:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvwS62yggd4
Hmmmmmmmmm..........
Plane goes missing #ThanksObama
Yeah I think Obama put Biden on it. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
The latest flight route:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgra...update-600.png
Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appeared to show that the missing airliner climbed to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and turned sharply to the west, according to a preliminary assessment by a person familiar with the data.
The radar track, which the Malaysian government has not released but says it has provided to the United States and China, showed that the plane then descended unevenly to 23,000 feet, below normal cruising levels, as it approached the densely populated island of Penang.
For 7 days they've said last contact w/plane was 107 am Saturday-Now they found pings from satellites at 811 am. Was flying almost 8 hours.
— Bob Woodruff (@BobWoodruff) March 15, 2014
How many hours of fuel did it have?
You presume too much. Who is to say it hasn't landed and refueled? For all we know the damn thing is just flying around the globe right now stopping every so often to fill up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
That's actually exactly what I was wondering about. I wasn't presuming anything. I have no clue how many pounds of fuel (and therefore hours of fuel) a 777 carries. If it sure as hell wasn't 8 hours worth, then yeah, that thing had to of landed somewhere to fuel up. And if it did land and refuel somewhere, the why the hell hasn't anyone said anything about seeing it land and refuel? Some ground crew person had to be involved in refueling it, unless it landed at somewhere under private control. Either way, this whole situation is becoming more and more fucked up. What was originally an expected plane crash into the ocean, is now, who the hell even knows. One's guess is apparently as good as the next person's at this rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Now that I think of it ram hasn't posted anything in days, at least that I can recall. If you remember, a few months ago he posted a screenshot of his PC and you could see that he had tabs open for airplane schematics and some sort of chemicals/poisons.
I think he is involved.
I completely forgot about that. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
I thought it was originally reported that it had five or so, but now they are saying it had at least enough for the remaining six hours to Beijing. As is par for this story, no 'facts' ever get repeated more than once. A recent article says that it had to be nearing its fuel limit. (No kidding?)Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
I think that the right price (or cause) in this part of the world would lead to many turning a blind eye if they saw/knew what was happening. Hell, it still seems like some governments helped the 9/11 hijackers - hijacking this plane would be easier than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Who knows if honest, but some commenters on articles who claim to work in the airline industry say that the plane could be repurposed relatively quickly (repainted, gutted, etc.) and could fly anywhere, virtually undetected - just an unidentifiable blip on a radar. Others say that if it flew under another plane, it would be completely undetected. Their worst fear is that the plane would be used to take a dirty bomb wherever it is headed or become an ICBM.
Those kind of theories seem to be getting laughed at in articles (especially by the US - "silly movie plot!"), but I think western governments should be on edge until this plane is found. In the states, they should probably be more concerned about this plane paying us a visit than sending aid to the Ukraine, posturing for the 2014/2016 elections, putting spyware on everyone's computer, etc.
The US didn't give a shit about Ukraine (or any of Eastern Europe) in 1945, why start now?
I agree with the last paragraph of your post, cdj. Sadly though, no politician gives a shit about anything but his own personal gain. (I know you know that and weren't suggesting otherwise)
I still don't think we give a shit about the Ukraine. I think our primary concern is Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
Yep. That is the debt that the "Greatest Generation" left us. Too scared to fight a beleaguered Red Army in 1945 and we are still dealing with it 70 years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
The US came back from WWII waving flags and proclaiming victory. However, the Allies doomed millions of Eastern Europeans to enslavement, starvation, persecution and death by handing them over to Stalin.
I would be willing to bet that a vast majority of those people couldn't care less that the Nazis were defeated. Their lives never got any better.
Sorry to drift off topic. Just something I know a bit about.
Russian Deputy PM Laughs at Obama’s Sanctions
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...mas-sanctions/
So, what is the big deal about this situation anyway? The people in that area voted and said they want to be Russians. Why are we involved in this?
You might want to familiarize yourself with Germany annexing Austria in 1938.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
The first thing in this thread that matters at all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZlfIVEy_YOA
Damn 30 years is a long time.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...th-row/284396/
Real long when you are not guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
Military search planes flew over a remote part of the Indian Ocean on Thursday hunting for debris in "probably the best lead" so far in finding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight, officials said.
The four planes were checking to see if two large objects spotted in satellite imagery bobbing in the ocean were debris from Fight 370 that disappeared March 8 with 239 people on board.
Australian authorities said the first plane to reach the area was unable to locate the debris through clouds and rain, but that other planes would continue the hunt.
One of the objects spotted by satellite imagery was 24 meters (almost 80 feet) in length and the other was 5 meters (15 feet). There could be other objects in the area, a four-hour flight from Australia's southwestern coast, said John Young, manager of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority's emergency response division.
"This is a lead, it's probably the best lead we have right now," Young said. He cautioned that the objects could be seaborne debris along a shipping route where containers can fall off cargo vessels, although the larger object is longer than a container.
Young told a news conference in Canberra, Australia's capital, that planes had been sent to the area about 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) southwest of Perth to check on the objects. He said satellite images "do not always turn out to be related to the search even if they look good, so we will hold our views on that until they are sighted close-up."
http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/fa...les-some-cases
Wonder what these settlements will be
"affluenza"
I still chuckle at that
If I am reading this correctly, Cali has had 164 quakes/aftershocks in the last week with the majority in the last 48 hours. (For at least five minutes I debated on putting this in the TGT End of the World contingency plan thread.)
Responding to this from my survival shelter.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I wonder if that's normal, I noticed most of them are very small.
Yeah, there was 5.2 (if I remember right) overnight that was the top news on CBS Radio News this morning at work right before I went on air at 6am. They've been saying for years, that SoCal has been due for "the big one" for years now, decades even. Between the 164 quakes and aftershocks, plus the 5.2 last night, I'm wondering if that big one isn't coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
I think there have been 100+ aftershocks following the recent bigger 4+ and 5+ quakes. If I lived out there, I would be concerned that the big one may be on the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
So I just googled it, looks like on average they have about 10,000 a year. Most of them small. Nothing to see here :)
Damn it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
http://drudgereport.com/ous.jpg
Don't forget to pay the liberal lord and savior today for you procrastinators out there.
IRS AWARDS $1,000,000 in BONUSES TO 1,150 WHO OWE BACK TAXES
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRS_BONUSES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAU LT&CTIME=2014-04-22-16-25-14
This page is a 403, forbidden page
Oh noes, link no longer exists. Obama got to the AP again. First he takes our cattle and land and now he is taking our internet.
Supreme Court upholds ban on affirmative action in college admissions
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...#ixzz2zfClwSyz
Obama blames Founding Fathers’ ‘structural’ design of Congress for gridlock
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ress-gridlock/
Cannot Blame Bush all the time now so will go further back to those evil founding fathers. :nod:
BREAKING NEWS released by our Lord and Savior tonight. Apparently the Government hid some unknown moon landing mission for 6 years.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpxqsjECYAE7Yae.png
Then again still waiting on a full list of those 59 states
I wonder if President Obama used Photoshop or some other Graphic Designer? Wait a sec.. Doubt he ever saw it. Congrats on regurgitating the Drudge Report though.
women are equally paid enough statistically but when you leave work for cramps and children rearing you will make less moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by CLW