i always recruit from the console. i just dont want to take the chance of having the od website fail on me while i'm in a call.
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i always recruit from the console. i just dont want to take the chance of having the od website fail on me while i'm in a call.
I get the compare 0-0 thing a lot when theres a big discrepancy in school prestige, and it really does come through as 0-0 for me and I don't think it's a bug cause the recruit will also say something indicating he wasn't cool with you making that comparison. But I haven't studied it scientifically just what I've noticed. When I see that 0-0 now I avoid it
:dunno: Don't know what to tell you, guys, but it is interesting that you're actually getting the 0 total whereas I'm normally not.
FWIW, MVP, the majority of the guys in Powerhouse have done all of their recruiting from the website this year (from what I understand), and I haven't heard any of them say there was a problem. There's been more problems on the console (usually with scouting).
its just weird jeff, because its so hit or miss. in one phone call, everything will work perfectly fine.....even comparing an A+/D pitch will work correctly. then, in the next phone call, the same pitch comparison will present a 0-0 visual, yet end up working against the same school. a couple of more phone calls later, and you'll actually get a 0 score for the comparison pitch. it doesnt make any sense to me because i've seen it happen on different pitches and against different schools.
my only solution, really, is to not compare at all. i will say though, that whenever an actual point comparison is shown (ie: 50-75 or something), it does work. the errors that we're seeing only occur when a (0-0) visual is shown.
I'm not sure it's an error. It only occurs for me A vs D, not A vs B or C, and think about it, it makes some sense that a kid might not be impressed when you compare your powerhouse against some lowly school.
When I get around to playing again I'm gonna pay more attention and will try to get a screen grab
That would be interesting, jacoavlu. While logical in the real world, it would be an interesting design decision within the world of the game.
its most definitely a bug. i'm looking at a recruit right now, in which he has a low importance in playing style, which i'm rated A+ in. i'm currently in second place for this recruit (as arizona state) and oregon is in first place for him. oregon's playing style is rated as a D+ and is displaying a 0-0 interest in him. texas is rated as a D in playing style for him and its also showing 0-0 for them too. michigan is the same, even with their D- grade. however, USC and ohio state are 5 and 6 respectively, and their grades for playing style are C and C-.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacoavlu
i took a chance and compared anyway to oregon, and got +/- 45 points for/against.
If it's an interesting game design decision, it's a poor UI decision that doesn't communicate effectively what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
That too. I actually meant to mention that too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ralphs
Hmm, recruiting might be a little too easy
http://i.imgur.com/sSjprl.jpg
You're a five star school in, what, Year 4? I imagine you've done very well to get Texas State up to a 5 star ranking. Once a user team hits 5 stars, yes, recruiting is incredibly easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphs
Plus, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you're able to bring in a better group of freshman than the CPU. The CPU is very poor at planning long-term.
Yes, I'm remarking on the fact that a 1* school can be projected #1 within a handful of years. Then again I am on Varsity difficulty so maybe that's why it's easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
It's already kinda easy on Heisman, can only imagine how easy it would be on Varsity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphs
Yep, that would do it. Even with Texas State.Quote:
Originally Posted by ralphs
another instance on the comparing recruiting pitch bug. i'm pitching playing style to a recruit who lists it as very high. i'm currently in 3rd place on him, behind alabama who's play style is a B+ for him, and south carolina who's a C- for playing style.
i'm getting a (0-0) display for every school i'm comparing against. however, it did actually give me the points, when i went ahead and pitched it to him against alabama.
could the bug be related to displaying a (0-0) for pitches made, that could yield over 100 points? that kind of seems to be the one constant i'm running into. i'm always pitching a very high/most with an A-/A/A+ type of grade.
that cant be it, because on the very next recruit, i get a full display of points for pitching an A+/VH combo against alabama (#2 on recruit's list) who's coach prestige rating is a D+.
I think you're on the right track, MVP, but there's more layers than just the point value. I've had two players with the exact same importance and the exact same difference between School 1 & School 2. Yet one will show and one won't.
thats weird, because (i may have mentioned this earlier) i've had it display a (0-0) point total for the second place school (i was in first) with like a D grade for a pitch, and then it'd display (0-0) for every other school in the recruit's list, even if they all had different grades.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Yep. seen that too
Yeah, just did this and got a 0/0 on compare. Frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
Could it be a "Playing Style" recruit comparison bug? Since the "Playing Style" fluctuates as the season progress, Your school could have been rated worse or the same as the other school at some point. For some reason, even though you are now rated higher you still see the 0/0 comparison? Maybe.
I don't believe I've noticed it on just one single pitch. But I'll keep an eye out.
Had it happen with Coach Prestige as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tako 715
I've mostly only seen this problem when comparing A+ to D-. It sucks because it forces you to have to just talk about it rather than get the "double" points for putting down the lower ranked school.
Playing Style is the most common to display (0-0), though it doesn't always register as 0-0. I just had one register as 0-0, as Schauwn said, it was A+ to D-. Then I had an A+ to C- on the very next call, it showed 0-0 but finished with a difference of +128, -99.
Yeah, I've found two different scenarios. One where it shows that you will get 0-0 for the call and it still gives you points, this happens on any grade difference for whatever reason. And then there is the scenario that I mentioned before where you actually get 0 points, that I've only found happen on A+/D-
Lately I've been noticing it (the display of 0-0) on Playing Style and Coach Prestige. Those are the two pitches that are most likely to change from one week to the next. In fact, those might be the only ones (except Champ Contender) that can change in-season.
playing time changes, but only after a recruit commits to you. i had a DE start the year at an A+ in playing time, had 2 other DE's commit during the season, and now that DE's playing time is at a C-
Playing Time can also change with scouting. A player with an 80 OVR rating may have a B in Playing Time, but when he drops to a 72 that may drop his Playing Time assessment.
is there a "point cap"? or does every point matter in every phone call?
one of my recruits in this site's 360 OD is a kicker. last week i was in 4th place for this kicker and 320 points behind the 1st place school (i think texas tech). i ended up having a 930 point phone call with the kicker. this week, i find myself 1st place but only 120 points ahead of texas tech. thats a 440 point swing in my favor. but that still leaves me wondering about the other 500 points??? is it possible that texas tech got a 500 point phone call on this kicker?
otherwise, it seems that some of my points are being lost....or that every point earned in a phone call is not applied directly into what's shown in the recruit's top 10?
I 10000% believe there is, but it would be highly difficult to prove. But I absolutely believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
There IS some point value for passing a school. That's not a true 1:1 jump. But it shouldn't be 500 points.
the recruiting point totals dont even make sense at all! in my recruiting spreadsheet, i keep track of the weekly increases/decreases in a lead or how far behind i am, and it doesnt even make sense at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
for example, last week i had a 940 point lead over the second place school, called the recruit and had a 220 point phone call. i check the recruit this week, and i now have a 1260 point lead. so my lead jumped 320 points. i didnt negatively recruit against the second place school (michigan), so where did the extra 100 points come from?
You get credit for either having a player on your board or where he is on your board.
There's also some additional unknown I haven't figured out yet. We've all seen players who appear to not be getting recruited by anyone change their Top 10 over time. I also had a guy that I removed from my board, yet increased my lead on. I can't explain how either of those work.
I also track week to week, but I've pretty much given up on trying to explain it and just look at it as a indicator of trend.
I think there is alot of negative recruiting going on behind the scenes that we don't see. That's one of my explanations of why we don't see the point differences we are expecting. You don't know who is negative recruiting against who
what's everyone think? WR, CB, or Safety?
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...rmvp/wally.jpg
CB... His CIT is too low for wr (for me) and his STR/TKL is too low for safety, unless he's a centerfielder in a 335/425.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
ya, idk....i'm gonna be loaded at wr and corner (both in numbers and quality), and have depth at safety (quality not so much). i do run the 335 so he would play centerfield. but with the db play being so bad in this game (especially the aggressive zone coverage bug), idk if putting him on defense is the right call, since he'll frequently be out of position.
got a few weeks to think on this one. i have some commits who i havent scouted yet, and depending on how they turn up, it might alter my choice, but i'm leading towards WR. the 6'5" 96 speed is too tempting....that and it'll piss off JB in trying to cover this guy. :D
He's the type I hate in this game. If you put him at safety, especially centerfield, his BSH and MVs will piss you off. At WR, his CIT will suck.
FWIW, I have a similar guy st CB and his AGI doesn't kill him.
Though I'm always in favor of pissing JB off :D
Hey guys,
I have a question that's been killing my dynasty. I have all the CPU recruiting help turned off. I have 13 scholarships left going into signing day, with 13 guys that have me as #1 by at least 900 points. But at signing day, I end up losing about 7 of them (I've quit without saving about 3 times because at first I thought it was a glitch) because for some reason, a bunch of crapping recruits that have never been on my board and that I NEVER OFFERED SCHOLARSHIPS too commit and (I assume) take the spots of my guys, who then commit elsewhere.
Can anyone offer insight/assistance?
Thank you!
Unfortunately it's less of a case of the new commits pushing off the old recruits and rather the CPU needing to "cheat" in order to fill their board/needs so they steal your recruits. If you can't sign them before Week 5 of the offseason, there's a chance you won't get them. Next time, I'd take a look to see where your recruits ended up at and see if they didn't go to a school with only a handful of commits.
As for the new commits, that's a complaint that several have this year... guys that you never even talk to somehow sign with you on signing day even though you're already over the 70 player limit. That said, I have ended up with an 80 OVR freshman QB out of the blue like that.
Thank you for your quick response!Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
So is there anything I can do about this? Should I just go after less guys but go after them harder so that they commit before signing day? Why give me 25 scholarships and the ability to make 25 solid guys have me as #1 if they won't commit? Frustrating.
Thanks again