From Chris Mortensen:
Raiders now do not have 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th round picks in 2012 but do expect decent compensatory picks back for Gallery/Asomugha
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From Chris Mortensen:
Raiders now do not have 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th round picks in 2012 but do expect decent compensatory picks back for Gallery/Asomugha
So now that the Bengals have another first round pick, imagine A.J. Green on one side, and Justin Blackmon on the other.
If he was Carson Palmer of 5 years ago, that would be a STEAL. Unfortunately, the guy is permanently injured and most likely done as a starter worthy QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
Actually, I think they go for either an OT (need a talented LT) or a RB (and jettison Benson as quickly as possible).Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Yeah the Raiders overpaid. But I don't blame them. They've been a solid team the past year and a half, they have a chance to make a move to stay the course with San Diego in the West. They will get two compensatory picks from the Gallery and Asomugha, but overall they basically had mortgaged their draft before this anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Carson might be alright. Basically with that running game he just needs to come in and make a couple of throws and not lose the game. He's a good enough QB to that, now if he can mentally do that, that is the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Two key things.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Will he be comfortable in Oakland where he wasn't in Cincy.
Yes. He doesn't have an Ochocinco or Owens like personality to constantly bitch in his ear. Now that Davis has died, that franchise could be turning around even further than they have the past year in a half, so he could be more comfortable with the ownership there than he ever was in Cincy. Plus he's playing for Hue Jackson again, who is fully entrenched as the HC there.
Does he have the tools to succeed in Oakland?
Yes. A crop of young WR's that are really coming into their own, and now that Boss is back on the field, both him and McFadden are good safety valves on passing downs. Throw in the fact that McFadden is probably the best RB in the league this year, things could be wide open once Palmer gets in the groove.
I think it's a good enough fit to get them in the playoffs this year, and to become a serious contender to actually win playoff games next year. If you take a look at the big dogs in the AFC, the best of them are aging (Pats, Ravens) outside of the Jets. I think the door in the AFC is semi-open this year, but could be really wide open for a decent team to step up out of the blue next year.
The Raiders were already in their last stages of rebuilding so losing the draft picks in 2012 draft won't really hurt them. Their young at almost every position that I can think of and if those players develop on track then they will be solid for a while.
Other than waste talent this year or next why not take a stab at Palmer who is an immediate upgrade to Boller and Pryor. Hell all he has to do is what Campbell was doing for them. Hand the ball off, make a few throws with 8 in the box. Its the Raiders but their still better than what he has been working with in Cincy the last few years.
From Shefty: Ronnie Brown to Lions for 2013 7th and Jerome Harrison.
Palmer trade is official now as the Raiders have come out and announced it.
If the Raiders play in the AFC Championship game either this year or next, their second round pick in 2013 becomes a first.
Maybe they can now revive this ad campaign....
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...t98/palmer.jpg
Hope he looks skinnier because of P90X and not dipping in cocaine on his time off.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
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He has that look of, oh yea this is easy money on his face.
So, do you think the Colts will win the Suck For Luck Sweepstakes? Groom him for 3-4 years like Aaron Rodgers...maybe sooner considering Mannings injury is serious.
The only thing is many NFL teams are now liking the trial by fire method. Worked for Flacco, took 5 years with Alex Smith.
IDK, Miami is right there too. Matt Moore didn't look too bad Monday night and he might take them to some wins once he gets more games. Indy is just terrible and it probably would be a great place for Luck to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Oh Miami will not hesitate to take Luck. If they do, they're idiots. They need him as much as Manning needs a solid successor.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Worked with Matt Ryan, Big Ben, so far so good for Cam.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Yeah it's a total crapshoot ... see Joey Harrington. But it's been more good than bad lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Completely agree, never really worked before. There was kind of a turning point the year Ben game out and was successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
So Carson is starting this week. Should be interesting.
Holy shit. He is?Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
SportsCenter SportsCenterQuote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Breaking News: @Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer is expected to start Sunday vs the @kcchiefs (via @adamschefter)
54 minutes ago
Well I'm guaranteed to see it because it's the Chiefs. Every one of their damn games is on the Omaha and Lincoln CBS affiliates.
:D:D ouch that hurts but you get to watch Tamba Hali though :nod: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I'll probably peek in and check it out for my 4:15 set of games. Of course the Steelers will be the main 2nd set game but i'll flip back. Given that I have a few Raiders on my fantasy team (DHB, Ford and Jano) I've been watching their games lately. May pick Carson off the waiver wire just in case because my 2nd QB has given me shit. (Kolb)
From Shefty:
Two people familiar with situation believe it is unlikely Carson Palmer will start Sunday, though no final decision has been made.
I wasn't able to pick him up anyway..I'll still check the game out. Counting on Boller to hit DHB and Ford will be excruiating.
It appears that the NFL and UFL are in beginning talks in regards to making the UFL an official minor league system. I hope this gets done.
Wow. It's about damn time. Now the NBA needs to do this. Get these stupid ass one and done kids the hell out of the colleges and get the players in there who actually want to play for 3 or all 4 years of their career.
How will this be any different than when NFL Europe was around? It won't.
My guess is that the NFL is just throwing a little money at them to make sure they don't become competition to them.
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Oh there is no doubt that the UFL was in no way a threat to the NFL :D the UFL started this season late and shut it down early.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
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And that's exactly the right time to give them money. You control the money, you control everything. Big companies eating little ones is not a new concept. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
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the NFL may have alot of money, but theres no need to waste it on a half ass dying pseudo league.Quote:
Originally Posted by steelerfan
its like the NBA keeping the WNBA alive, theres no reason too , its just a tax right off for Stern because womens basketball will never be able to support itself long term
Well, even though they needed overtime, and none of the 15 points in regulation came until the last 3 minutes of the game, thank you Tim Tebow. Unfortunately, I believe if Kyle Orton had been playing today, that was a lose, without ever going to overtime. As much as I like Orton, he lost the faith of lots of Broncos fans, myself included, to get the job done like he first did when he arrived in Denver. It was absolutely time for a change and hopefully it will inspire the offense to step their game up for the rest of the season and not just roll over.
In all honesty do you see Tebow as a viable QB option for the future of the Broncos? I just can't think that John Elway will risk his job on the arm of Tebow. Yeah, he may be the most prolific scrambling QB in the NFL but can he win you a championship? As a Raiders fan I know that Campbell, Palmer, Boller, and Pryor won't be able to do it. Do you think Elway would consider a massive trade for the #1 pick and the rights to Andrew Luck or is he really going to stand pat with Tebow?Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
As much as I would like to see Tebow succeed and become a quality starting NFL QB, I can easily see it not happening. I never really cared for Tebow in college, probably most likely because he was playing for Florida and the whole SEC/BCS championships thing, but as a member of the Broncos, I'm on the Tebow bandwagon and hope he does great. As much heart, work ethic, and drive as he has, I'm not sure he'll really ever become a true "future of the franchise" QB. He has the skills and raw ability, if he can just get his throwing motion better, and hopefully Elway and the Broncos will give him a fair chance, but I'm not sure they will. But, Elway has made it known he's not really sold on Tebow as a QB, or at least a starting/franchise QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaymo76
As for Andrew Luck, that I'm not sure. To make a leap up to #1, most likely with either the Colts or Dolphins, the Broncos would have to practically sell their souls to get that spot. I'm not sure John Fox, Elway, Brian Xanders and the rest of the team would be willing to take such a massive hit and lose the high quality players as they would with a trade like that.
So the Saints scored 62 points last night, and the Rams have scored 56 points all year long.