Team Ratings and Top 25 in NCAA Football 13

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06-06-2012, 03:21 PM
natetcu

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

Boise State is a :5star: program, but Notre Dame is definitely a :6star: program (in the game, that is).

In real life too, stars represent prestige, not talent. Notre Dame is a much more prestigious than Boise St, just look at their respective histories, fan bases, media coverage, and recruiting. ND wins every category. The only place BSU can compete is on the field.
06-06-2012, 03:24 PM
natetcu

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Originally Posted by Little Steve

Yah! Ohio State is in the top 25, its not like they had a bad season last year... wait they did. well the offence was in the top 100 last year.... wait it wasn't. Well they played great D last year.... NO. well at least they have a great QB you can throw the ball well.... nope.how the fuck are they in the top 25?
their is no chance in hell they're gonna win the big ten. at most 8 wins overall.

The preseason top-25 is about voter perception, not talent on the field... OSU has Urban Meyer and they are OSU... hence the pollsters will vote for them until they lose enough games that it is obvious they suck.
06-06-2012, 03:26 PM
Kwizzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by natetcu

In real life too, stars represent prestige, not talent. Notre Dame is a much more prestigious than Boise St, just look at their respective histories, fan bases, media coverage, and recruiting. ND wins every category. The only place BSU can compete is on the field.

Their prestige has taken a hit as result of many seasons of mediocrity, just like NE. IMO they are a 5 star.
06-06-2012, 03:29 PM
psuexv

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Originally Posted by Little Steve

Yah! Ohio State is in the top 25, its not like they had a bad season last year... wait they did. well the offence was in the top 100 last year.... wait it wasn't. Well they played great D last year.... NO. well at least they have a great QB you can throw the ball well.... nope.how the fuck are they in the top 25?
their is no chance in hell they're gonna win the big ten. at most 8 wins overall.

http://www.philsteele.com/Pdf/2012To...n/11OhioSt.pdf

While I don't agree with Phil and put them at #11, they will compete in the Big Ten
06-06-2012, 03:49 PM
Little Steve

QUOTE=psuexv;142655]http://www.philsteele.com/Pdf/2012To...n/11OhioSt.pdf

While I don't agree with Phil and put them at #11, they will compete in the Big Ten[/QUOTE]

I Don't like summer reading...:D
If you've ever been in highschool you sould get it?
06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
natetcu

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

Their prestige has taken a hit as result of many seasons of mediocrity, just like NE. IMO they are a 5 star.

1) ND has the second largest fan base in the nation (Texas resently passed them to be #1)

2) Recruiting is a good judge of where players perceive the best schools are. Past 10 years of recruiting (based off of Rivals ratings) 2002: 24th, 2003: 12th, 2004: top 50, 2005: 40th, 2006: 8th, 2007: 8th, 2008: 2nd, 2009: 21st, 2010: 14th, 2011: 10th, 2012: 20th, 2013: 13th

3) Preseason top 25 appearances since '02, this shows how they were perceived before the ball was ever snapped: 2002: 18 points, 2003: 18th, 2004: 25 points, 2005: 13 points, 2006: 3rd, 2007: 8th, 2008: 90 points, 2009: 23rd, 2010: 38 points, 2011: 18th... even when ND is bad they still get top 25 respect every year until they prove it is unwarranted.

To me, ND is the definition of a six star prestige school. Now to you they may have lost their luster, but they still command a lot of respect in the college football world.
06-06-2012, 03:54 PM
Little Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by natetcu

1) ND has the second largest fan base in the nation (Texas resently passed them to be #1)

2) Recruiting is a good judge of where players perceive the best schools are. Past 10 years of recruiting (based off of Rivals ratings) 2002: 24th, 2003: 12th, 2004: top 50, 2005: 40th, 2006: 8th, 2007: 8th, 2008: 2nd, 2009: 21st, 2010: 14th, 2011: 10th, 2012: 20th, 2013: 13th

3) Preseason top 25 appearances since '02, this shows how they were perceived before the ball was ever snapped: 2002: 18 points, 2003: 18th, 2004: 25 points, 2005: 13 points, 2006: 3rd, 2007: 8th, 2008: 90 points, 2009: 23rd, 2010: 38 points, 2011: 18th... even when ND is bad they still get top 25 respect every year until they prove it is unwarranted.

To me, ND is the definition of a six star prestige school. Now to you they may have lost their luster, but they still command a lot of respect in the college football world.

They are a 6 star school. they have turned around sence Kelly got their. Basterd left a 12-0 3ed in the country team.Q: who does that???A: its notre dame $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$44
06-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Kwizzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by natetcu

1) ND has the second largest fan base in the nation (Texas resently passed them to be #1)

2) Recruiting is a good judge of where players perceive the best schools are. Past 10 years of recruiting (based off of Rivals ratings) 2002: 24th, 2003: 12th, 2004: top 50, 2005: 40th, 2006: 8th, 2007: 8th, 2008: 2nd, 2009: 21st, 2010: 14th, 2011: 10th, 2012: 20th, 2013: 13th

3) Preseason top 25 appearances since '02, this shows how they were perceived before the ball was ever snapped: 2002: 18 points, 2003: 18th, 2004: 25 points, 2005: 13 points, 2006: 3rd, 2007: 8th, 2008: 90 points, 2009: 23rd, 2010: 38 points, 2011: 18th... even when ND is bad they still get top 25 respect every year until they prove it is unwarranted.

To me, ND is the definition of a six star prestige school. Now to you they may have lost their luster, but they still command a lot of respect in the college football world.

All good points but in the end, consistency in the product on the field is what matters most to me. So again, IMO there are 2 requirements for that 6th star & ND only has 1.
06-06-2012, 03:57 PM
psuexv

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Originally Posted by Little Steve

I Don't like summer reading...:D
If you've ever been in highschool you sould get it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI
06-06-2012, 03:59 PM
Little Steve

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

All good points but in the end, consistency in the product on the field is what matters most to me. So again, IMO there are 2 requirements for that 6th star & ND only has 1.

They aways play one of the toughest schedule durning the year. And they've won 8 over the past two years.
06-06-2012, 04:00 PM
Little Steve

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Originally Posted by psuexv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

funny but i still hate you. and a 100 on my english exam so...:no_bait:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEn3khlrPMU
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06-06-2012, 04:11 PM
natetcu

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

All good points but in the end, consistency in the product on the field is what matters most to me. So again, IMO there are 2 requirements for that 6th star & ND only has 1.

I am not going to argue that they don't suck on the field, and there is no doubt that they don't carry the same respect as when leather helmets were used. But, IMO they are still 6-star, so agree to disagree. Thanks for being a good sport and not going to the "well you are an idiot" argument.
06-06-2012, 04:25 PM
Kwizzy

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Originally Posted by natetcu

I am not going to argue that they don't suck on the field, and there is no doubt that they don't carry the same respect as when leather helmets were used. But, IMO they are still 6-star, so agree to disagree. Thanks for being a good sport and not going to the "well you are an idiot" argument.

Ha absolutely. I have no problem with disagreeing. You make some solid points and I even reconsiderred my stance to be honest but in the end, I just feel the way I do.

Welcome to the site btw, I think you'll find that one of the things that sets this site apart from others is the level of respect others give your opinions, even if they disagree.

UNLESS YOUR NAME IS RAM... :D
06-06-2012, 04:48 PM
SmoothPancakes

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Originally Posted by psuexv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

:D
06-06-2012, 04:50 PM
SmoothPancakes

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

Ha absolutely. I have no problem with disagreeing. You make some solid points and I even reconsiderred my stance to be honest but in the end, I just feel the way I do.

Welcome to the site btw, I think you'll find that one of the things that sets this site apart from others is the level of respect others give your opinions, even if they disagree.

UNLESS YOUR NAME IS RAM... :D

There is no such higher level of truth humanly possible than this statement. :D
06-06-2012, 05:31 PM
gschwendt

Top Player Ratings for each team from Air Force through Texas State (again, courtesy Tradition Sports)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWi-6qqh1EA
06-06-2012, 06:33 PM
ram29jackson

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Like Notre Dame? Didn't that table say it was a 6-star school? :fp:

considering its entire history..yes...ND is historically all that is college football even if they arent some perpetual top 10
06-06-2012, 06:54 PM
JeffHCross

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Is this how OVR was calculated in previous versions as well? Starters only?

Yes, and it has been for years. Just verified in NCAA 11. FSU has B+/A-/B ratings. Switched out their starting QB, HB, and WR and they dropped to B-/C+/B.
06-06-2012, 10:02 PM
Little Steve

OSU QB is a 85:fp: He is the worst QB i have EVER SEEN! im not lieing. He's god's worst creation. Next to the state of Alabama :D
06-07-2012, 06:29 AM
souljahbill

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Originally Posted by Little Steve

OSU QB is a 85:fp: He is the worst QB i have EVER SEEN! im not lieing. He's god's worst creation. Next to the state of Alabama :D

LOL!

Good one.

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