playing in an offline dynasty as :Hawaii:.....and i just had to to offer Offensive Guard Stephon Gschwend. 6'0" 315 lb Juco from Honolulu, Hawaii. he committed on the spot.
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playing in an offline dynasty as :Hawaii:.....and i just had to to offer Offensive Guard Stephon Gschwend. 6'0" 315 lb Juco from Honolulu, Hawaii. he committed on the spot.
can scheduling a visit with a recruit hurt you? i'm recruiting one guy and am in a 3 team race. i'm the only school who's offered him a scholarship and scheduled a visit with him during the regular season (week 15).
It's never too early to schedule a visit though offering a scholarship early is debatable.
It really just comes down to how hard the CPU decides to recruit the guy. If the CPU wants him, unless you're a power school, you're lucky to have a prayer.
The info here is great to explain symbols and parts of the game the manual doesnt deem important ....
the only thing I would add is set your sights higher...unless you are at a terrible school theres no need to bottom feed...I only recruit 5 and 4 star players...i had the top class recently with 19 4 stars and 2 5 stars ....the bulk of the strategy here is solid..im not sure if it would change much when you go for more premium talent...also dont over value PIPELINE states...most dont add much benefit...but every region has power house states you should try to gravitate to California Texas Ohio Virginia Florida and Pennsylvania are the top states and ever program is near one of these states...all you really need is one of these states and your host state and youll be just fine.
i do give scholarship offers on the first call....ill will try it the other way and hold out and see if there is a truly a change ...ill return and report my findings....
also remember unless you are rebuilding a bad program you wont need 30 recruits...i find it best to keep my board around 20 and by midseason a strong list of 15...
most key thing..LEARN TO LET GO cut guys who show no real interest in your school dont waste your time
Does anybody have info on how a recruit's stars & letter ratings relate to their rating when they get on campus? For example, what would the overall rating as a freshman be for a 3-star WR recruit with average letter ratings? Also, does the sparq rating mean anything? It seems like all players at the same position with the same amount of stars have the same sparq rating.
a general question - I got about 15 3 star recruits in my dynasty last year, how many years will it take for them to be playable? 80 overall?
It depends on several things. The prestige of the school, the prestige of the coach, and their hidden potential rating.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishskillz72
Normally, you're looking at season 3 for them to be in the 80 overall area, but, again, it depends on several factors.
does a redshirt year count as a "season"? like could he go through 1 redshirt year and 2 regular years and have an 80 overall?
Yup. Redshirting them definitely counts as a season and is always recommended to redshirt them. Unless, of course, you have to use the promise to not redshirt them to get them to come to your school to begin with, then you should wait until year 2 to redshirt them. But, you should always redshirt them as soon as possible. :4star: players become viable after just two years (one redshirt and one regular year) and :3star: players are normally viable by year 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishskillz72
One thing you definitely want to pay attention to, though, is how the players progress. It can tell you quite a bit on how viable of an option they are for your team during their time there. If you get a freshman that starts out at 70 overall, and, after one year, progresses to a 74 overall but then only progresses to a 75 overall after the second year, you're looking at probably only 1 year, maybe 2 years, worth of true viable play from him. Whereas, if you have a freshman that starts out at 70 overall, but consistently jumps up 3-4 points a year, you're looking at him being a viable option (depending on your depth already and the makeup of your team) as early as the beginning of his 3rd season with the team with two more viable years to go (again, depending on the depth of your team and so on).
Overall, it's very much worth keeping track of the improvements your players make during the offseason as it can tell you quite a bit about whether or not you're going to need to replace that guy earlier than you thought you would. I can tell you that my rule of thumb is, unless the guy is a :5star: recruit that's starting out in the lower 80s to begin with, if they only improve 1 point during either one of their first two seasons on your team, you're wasting a spot on your roster by keeping them. Because they've already peeked at their full potential as a player and won't be much better than they already are, you're better off to get someone else to try to fill their roster spot.
I RS as soon as I can with every player. Unless lack of depth or talent of player, I will RS them and will not 2nd guess myself. If I know I am he is not going to get alot of time, then I am doing is wasting a year. Even if he is better than the next guy, I will still RS him and save him for future.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
I usually RS FR guys that either are low rated but good physical ratings or Fr who are already good(75-80), but I have good enough quality of depth. I just RSed two of my 3 RTs, who are 4 star FR and backups, because I wanted to save for future and I could move around some RTs. Since there arent too many OL injuries and I dont rotate OL, It was doable. For some reason, I usually have 8+ WRs and usually all of them are already RSed, but they have good physical ratings so I dont want to cut them. The only position I hesistate to RS is RB. I like running a RB by committee, so I like to keep alot of RBs.
One thing i noticed just today: scheduling a visit during a bye week is a HUGE disadvantage. I had every single recruit visit during week 7, a bye week, and i had great pitches for all of them. Almost every recruit should have been at least an A- visit, but the highest i got was a C+. As you can imagine, it was extremely disappointing. Lol I'm pretty heated
Yeah. ALWAYS schedule them for a week with a game, and especially, if you can, a rivalry game. You're guaranteed to have a bad visit if you schedule them for a bye week. You're almost better off not to schedule them at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishskillz72
A player will usually not progress as much in a redshirt year as they would a year when they played, but, you get the added bonus of them being better by the end of their junior year. So a guy who might have been 80 as a junior if he hadn't redshirted might be 83 instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishskillz72
Sorry for the necropost, I just registered to say that I've been lurking on this thread for a while and it's really really good. The only thing I would add is that I recommend portioning out how many minutes I'm gonna give to all my guys in advance. So starting with 600 minutes(10 hours), I write on a piece of paper:
Smith - 20
Johnson - 30
Lewis - 10
Jones - 40
etc.
Then once I finish I will usually be over or under. At that point, if I'm under 600 minutes(10 hours) I will determine who most needs the extra time. If I'm over, I will determine who least needs a lot of time. That way I'm not just figuring out how much time for everyone on the go without knowing in advance if I'm gonna have any leftover time.
No problem man. Glad it's been able to help ya!Quote:
Originally Posted by psychicDB
Yeah. It's definitely a great thing to plan ahead when it comes to recruiting. I always try to plan ahead so that I can space everything out and hit everyone that I want to hit. You'd be surprised how often you just flat out nail a recruit with no real opposition though (especially low prestige schools).
Yep. Done that every week for the last three versions. Obviously it's a lot easier to hit a target now (and, therefore, considerably less challenging/fun for me)Quote:
Originally Posted by psychicDB
How should I adapt this guide to fit a :6star: prestige school, instead of a cupcake school like it was intended for?
I just got to :6star: prestige (started out as :2star: prestige) so I don't know how I should set up my board now that I have tons of :5star: and :4star: players interested in me. I'm actually holding off on starting this season until I get a reply here lol so I don't screw up my recruiting for the whole year!
Thanks.
Instead of going after just the guys interested in you, go after the top guys in the class with your first 3-4 spots and then go after the guys that have you in their top 10 in interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychicDB
When I'm recruiting at a top-notch program, I fill my board with 4 and 5-star guys who have me in their top 3. I try to avoid going after players who don't have me in their top 3, unless they are a need.
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Ok so this guide worked beautifully for me as a 2:1star: school but now that I'm a 6:1star: prestige school and I'm going after lots of 4:1star: and 5:1star: recruits, I'm having trouble signing any. I'm in week 6 and most of my board is either soft-committed to another school or I'm significantly behind the top school. When I was lower prestige and targeting mostly 3:1star:s, I was batting 90%+. Now I can barely sign anyone. This is with recruiting difficulty at All-American.
Can anybody help diagnose my horrible recruiting problem I'm having? Here's a summary of my approach:
-Playing as Vanderbilt, 6:1star: prestige after winning NCG.
-Everybody started with me in their top 3(except one guy).
-All 4:1star: or 5:1star: prospects.
-About 1/3 of them are from pipeline states. (My pipeline states are TX, CA, GA, AL, TN, and a couple small states on the east coast).
-1 QB, 1 HB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 6 OL, 3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB.
-Spent 20-40 minutes on most recruits per week depending on where I was with them, 60 for a couple. Everyone got at least 10 per week.
-Only offered when in 1st place or significantly behind the 1st place school after several weeks(400+ points behind).
-Promised "winning record against rivals" and "good exposure" for each recruit.
-Asked interest level for everything I'm B+ or above at.
-Hard sold B+'s or above with a "high" interest or greater.
-Swayed interest on B+'s with "above average" interest or lower.
-Scheduled most of them for a solid win over Auburn(not a rival), which was the first available visit that wasn't a bye week. Made sure I offered all visitors before visit.
I'm stumped why I can't recruit worth a damn now! Any help would be appreciated.