Your Custom Playbook Setup (Pure Speculation)

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Originally Posted by oweb26

Ahh another pistoleer. That will more than likely be my base offense (the screens out the pistol are just beautiful), I am thinking of putting some Strong and weak I in the mix, as well has having the 3-4 as my base with some 4-3 concepts. I cant really say for certain what exact plays I will run but thats why I like OD because I can recruit to my hybrid offense and defense and not have to be forced into a situation where I cannot run what I want due to lack of position players.

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Sounds like we are looking to have similar playbooks on both offense and defense. I like that I can adapt the pistol to the personel that I have available. My aim will be to run a spread-option out of the pistol, but if I get a great pro-style quarterback I won't have to completely scrap the playbook.
I also like to have a hybrid defense, starting w/ a 3-4 base. I look for recruits who can fit a DE/OLB spot so I can use 3-4 and 4-3 formations as well as hybrid S/LB players who I can put at nickelback, the second safety in a 4-2-5, or OLB in base sets. This allows me to give the offense a lot of different looks, but with basically the same personel.

One of my offenses.

Mich St base Pro style

The formations are not as important as the philosophy. There are things im trying to do and 29 of the 35 formations do just that.

24 variations of the I, 3 more fullback formations and 2 primary shotgun run formations. 2 under center passing formations and 4 shotgun passing formations but only 2 without any running backs. The playbook will have some QB option but it will depend on the QB. pocket passer will trade hand offs for the option plays and mobile qb's will run option.

Empty - Flex Trey
Empty - Trips
Far - Pro
I-Form - Big
I-Form - Close Twins
I-Form - H Pro
I-Form - Slot
I-Form - Slot Flex
I-Form - Tackle Over
I-Form - Tight
I-Form - Twin TE
I-Form - Twin WR
I-Form - Twins
I-Form - Twins Flex
I-Form - Y-Trips
Jumbo T - Big
Maryland I - Heavy
Maryland I - Wide
Shotgun - Big Flip
Shotgun - Bunch
Shotgun - Bunch HB Str
Shotgun - Bunch Quads
Shotgun - Empty Wing Trio
Shotgun - Flanker Close
Shotgun - Heavy
Strong I - Close
Strong I - Normal
Strong I - Slot
Strong I - Tight
Strong I - Twin TE
Strong I - Twins
Strong I - Twins Flex
Strong I - Twins Over
Weak - H Twins
Weak I - Close Twins

Looks like a lot but its really 29 lead blocking formations. Some will have only a few plays ran from them. Same concept with different player packages.

Base attack design is to ID man/ zone, pressure OLB, DE to hold edge / contain, attack safeties. overload strong side on runs, flood weak side zones on passes.

Recruit philosophy= Will stick with my base plan ive always used. But i will make FB and blocking TE a priority. I might also test looking for a big physical agile oline recruit with great acceleration to move to FB /TE.

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Originally Posted by smace767

One of my offenses.

Mich St base Pro style

The formations are not as important as the philosophy. There are things im trying to do and 29 of the 35 formations do just that.

24 variations of the I, 3 more fullback formations and 2 primary shotgun run formations. 2 under center passing formations and 4 shotgun passing formations but only 2 without any running backs. The playbook will have some QB option but it will depend on the QB. pocket passer will trade hand offs for the option plays and mobile qb's will run option.

Empty - Flex Trey
Empty - Trips
Far - Pro
I-Form - Big
I-Form - Close Twins
I-Form - H Pro
I-Form - Slot
I-Form - Slot Flex
I-Form - Tackle Over
I-Form - Tight
I-Form - Twin TE
I-Form - Twin WR
I-Form - Twins
I-Form - Twins Flex
I-Form - Y-Trips
Jumbo T - Big
Maryland I - Heavy
Maryland I - Wide
Shotgun - Big Flip
Shotgun - Bunch
Shotgun - Bunch HB Str
Shotgun - Bunch Quads
Shotgun - Empty Wing Trio
Shotgun - Flanker Close
Shotgun - Heavy
Strong I - Close
Strong I - Normal
Strong I - Slot
Strong I - Tight
Strong I - Twin TE
Strong I - Twins
Strong I - Twins Flex
Strong I - Twins Over
Weak - H Twins
Weak I - Close Twins

Looks like a lot but its really 29 lead blocking formations. Some will have only a few plays ran from them. Same concept with different player packages.

Base attack design is to ID man/ zone, pressure OLB, DE to hold edge / contain, attack safeties. overload strong side on runs, flood weak side zones on passes.

Recruit philosophy= Will stick with my base plan ive always used. But i will make FB and blocking TE a priority. I might also test looking for a big physical agile oline recruit with great acceleration to move to FB /TE.

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I put my playbook on here and on OS. An the funny thing is that OS posters told me that was cheese aka "unrealistic". While some agreed with me its a "power running" playbooks with FB and dual TE formatins. Me and You think alike on our playbooks. Go check out mine. :)

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Originally Posted by oweb26

Its been awhile since I have played NCAA, isnt that a offensive play?? Why is the Dt in the game. :smh::rolleyes:

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I believe there is a formation sub called "Miami" that puts the DT in at either FB or TE.

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Originally Posted by lilheavy

I believe there is a formation sub called "Miami" that puts the DT in at either FB or TE.

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alabama probably has it too....i remember seeing mount cody line up at fullback a couple of times in their goalline package.

Wow with custom playbooks I will have to create quite a few playbooks for the "systems" i run.

Dana Holgerson Air Raid- typical shotgun air raid with pistol full house, and a few other pistol formation to create a vertical PA passing game.(Oklahoma state and WVU)

Ken O'keefe pro style- Base look of two TE's with only inside and outside zone as running plays, then add unbalanced formations to gain leverage.(Iowa)

David Yost Spread- Purely shotgun passing game with emphasis on empty looks and trips. (Missouri)

Others I will try to create will be Paul Christ's Wisconsin Power running game, and Chip Kelly's spread offense.

Finally came up with a new for my playbook. "Power Spread" :)
Ace - Big

Ace - Big Twins

Ace - Jumbo Z

Ace - Jumbo Heavy

(Basically any SG formation that has the "Flex" look and HB dive in it)

Shotgun - Spread Flex

Shotgun - Split Twins

Shotgun - Split Slot

Shotgun - Split Offset

Shotgun - Slot F Wing

Shotgun - 5WR Trey

Shotgun - Trips Open

Shotgun - Tight

Shotgun - Trips TE

Shotgun - Twin TE Flex

Shotgun - Twin TE

Shotgun - Bunch Quads

I-Form - Normal

I-Form - Tight

I-Form - Twins Flex

I-Form - Y-Trips

I-Form - Tackle Over

Pistol - Slot

Pistol - Weak Slot

Pistol - Full House Diamond

Strong I - Tight

Strong I - Normal

Strong I - Close

Strong I - Y-Trips

Weak I - Close Twins

Flexbone - Normal

Wishbone - Wide

Wishbone - Tight

Power I - Weak

Power I - Normal

I am going to go with a spread pistol/gun offense

Pistol
4WR Trio
4WR Trips
Slot
Slot Flex
Spread
Spread Flex
Full House
Strong Slot
Trips Open
Train

Shotgun
Empty Quads
Normal Flex Wing
Slot F Wing
Split Offset
Wing Offset
Wing Offset Wk
Wildcat Spread

This will give me some flexibility as well for if I can't find a QB with good speed and acc, as I can use the power running aspect without needing the options and QB runs

Run-Heavy ProStyle/Mutiple Playbook.
Ace
Big TE Flip
Big Twins
Big Wing
Bunch Base
Bunch Swap
Jumbo
Jumbo Heavy
Jumbo Z
Tackle Over
Tight Double on

Far
Pro

Full House
Normal Wide

I-form
Tackle Over
Twin TE Strong

Maryland I
Heavy
Wide

Pistol
Bunch
Full House
H Twins
Jumbo Z
Train
Twin TE

Power I
Strong Tight

Shotgun
Emory Henry
Gator Heavy
N. Flex Wing
Slot F Wing
Wing Offset
Wing Offset Wk

Split Back
Normal
Pro

Wishbone
Normal
Tight
Wide

Boston College + Louisiana Tech

Ace
Big
Big Twins
Bunch Base
F Pair Twins
F Wing Trips
Slot
Slot Flex
Tackle Over
Tight
Twin TE
Y-Trips

Shotgun
Double Flex
Normal
Normal Flex Wk
Normal HB Wk
Normal Y-Flex
Normal Y-Slot

Plus some I-Form, haven't figured out which, just for the times I need two-back running.

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I-Form-Slot * * * * * * * * * * **
Wishbone -Wide
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Pistol -Cross
** * * * * *-Spread
** * * * * *-Trips
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Flexbone-Normal
** * * * * * * * *-Close
** * * * * * * * *-Twins Over
** * * * * * * * *-Wing Trips
** * * * * * * * -Split X
** * * * * * * * -Tackle Over
** * * * * * * * -Trips Left*
** * * * * * * * -Trips Right
** * * * * * * * -Slot Left
** * * * * * * * -Slot Right
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SG-Split Close*
** * *-Split Offset*
** * *-Split normal
** * *-Split Slot
** * *-Split Twins
** * *-Slot F Wing
** * *-Normal Flex Wing
** * *-Wing Offset
** * *-Wing Offset Wk
** * *-Tight
** * *-Spread*
** * *-Spread Flex
** * *-4 wr trips or (trio str)
** * *-4 wr trips open or (trio)** **
** * *-Gator Heavy
** * *-Wild Cyclone
-Empty Base * * * * * * * * * *16

29-31 *formations

A heavy spreadoption base with RnS or Airraid passing game

I got 37 formations but I might have to make a cut or 2...

I call it the Run Heavy Spread:

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Shotgun - Heavy
Shotgun - Short Snap
Shotgun - Slot F Wing
Shotgun - Normal
Shotgun - Normal Flex Wing
Shotgun - Wildcat
Shotgun - Wing Offset
Shotgun - Wing Offset Wk
Shotgun - Spread Flex
Shotgun - 4WR Trio Str
Shotgun - 4WR Trio
Shotgun - 5WR
Shotgun - 5WR Flex
Shotgun - 5WR Bunch
Shotgun - Empty Quads
Shotgun - Bunch Quads
Shotgun - Quads Trio
Shotgun - Empty Trey
Shotgun - Empty Ace
Ace - Big
Ace - Tackle Over
Ace - Y-Trips
Ace - Bunch Base
Pistol - Cross
Pistol - Bunch
Pistol - Train
I-Form - Normal
I-Form - Twins
I-Form - Close
I-Form - Twin TE
I-Form - Tackle Over
I-Form - Tight
Strong I - Normal
Strong I - Close
Strong I - Twins Over
Strong I - Tight
Weak I - Close

I wanted more pistol so I'm still struggling with THAT part. If Pistol - Bunch doesn't have read option, it becomes really useless.

What is Pistol-Train? Is that one of the new ones?

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Originally Posted by oweb26

What is Pistol-Train? Is that one of the new ones?

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Yup. They called Pistol - Full House (aka diamond) "Cross" for a while too...

what I'm currently planning on using:

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Offense:
Ace - Big
Ace - Slots
Ace - Y-Trips
I-Form - Normal
I-Form - Twins
I-Form - Slot Flex
Pistol - Full house
Shotgun - Spread Flex
Shotgun - Spread Flex WK
Shotgun - 4WR Trio
Shotgun - 4WR Trio Str
Shotgun - Slot F Wing
Shotgun - Short Snap
Shotgun - Split Offset
Shotgun - Wing Offset
Shotgun - Wing Offset Wk
Shotgun - Normal Flex Wing
Shotgun - Normal
Shotgun - Ace
Shotgun - Wildcat Spread
Goal line
Hail Mary
Special Teams

possible
Strong I - Normal
Weak I - Normal
Shotgun - Heavy
Shotgun - Ace twins
Shotgun - Wildcat

Defense: based on Multiple D playbook
3-4 - Normal
3-4 - Solid
3-4 - Predator
4-3 - Normal
4-3 - OVer
4-4 - Split
4-2-5 - Normal
4-2-5 - Okie
4-2-5 - Under Slide
Nickel - Normal
Nickel - 2-4-5
Dime - Normal
Dime - 3-2-6
Quarters - Normal
Quarters - 3 deep
Goal Line
Special Teams

possible
46 - Normal
46 - Bear
5-2 Normal
Nickel - Strong
Nickel - 3-3-5

Now that the demo has shown me how bad I am at passing, I'm going to be a lot more run focused then usual.


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Mine will look like this.

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Ace
Normal
Tackle Over
Y-Trips

I-Form
Slot
Slot Flex

Pistol
Full House
Slot
Slot Flex
H Twins
Y-Trips
Spread
4WR Trio

Shotgun
Normal
Normal Flex
Normal Flex Wing
Short Snap
Split Offset
Spread
Wildcat
Wildcat Spread
Wildcat Tiger Trey
Wing Offset
Wing Offset Wk
4WR Trio
4WR Trio Str
5WR HB

Strong I
Slot

Weak I
Slot

Every formation will have 1HB, 1TE, 3WR. In Formations where there is a FB the TE will take its place and when there is a 4WR formation the TE will take the place of the 4WR. Goal is to have a offense that is spread out and balanced between run/pass. Its a cross of Malzahn's misdirection and Oregon's Triple Option they used in the BCSNG.

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Originally Posted by FoleyLions

Mine will look like this.

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Ace
Normal
Tackle Over
Y-Trips

I-Form
Slot
Slot Flex 008888523840

Pistol
Full House
Slot
Slot Flex
H Twins
Y-Trips
Spread
4WR Trio

Shotgun
Normal
Normal Flex
Normal Flex Wing
Short Snap
Split Offset
Spread
Wildcat
Wildcat Spread
Wildcat Tiger Trey
Wing Offset
Wing Offset Wk
4WR Trio
4WR Trio Str
5WR HB

Strong I
Slot

Weak I
Slot

Every formation will have 1HB, 1TE, 3WR. In Formations where there is a FB the TE will take its place and when there is a 4WR formation the TE will take the place of the 4WR. Goal is to have a offense that is spread out and balanced between run/pass. Its a cross of Malzahn's misdirection and Oregon's Triple Option they used in the BCSNG.

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What's funny about thst I'd judt the BCSNG a user in my od had two beastly DTs and that absolutely stopped my inside running game just like the NG.

With the unique Wildcats being hidden, I'm thinking more that I'll convert a standard formation into a wildcat. Basically take something like Shotgun - Slot F Wing and sub in a WR or HB to take the snaps and run it.

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Originally Posted by gschwendt

With the unique Wildcats being hidden, I'm thinking more that I'll convert a standard formation into a wildcat. Basically take something like Shotgun - Slot F Wing and sub in a WR or HB to take the snaps and run it.

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I was sorta bummed out about this. That's what I ran in 2011. Hard to find a running back who can throw a little and it's hard to find a QB that runs like a running back. I used the Miss St playbook and tried to emulate a single wing offense the best I could.

Off topic: I did notice that in the wildcat formations, if you ran a power fake and waited until the playclock was at two or three seconds, it would snap the ball without the auto motion and made for a really nice power run.

Anyways, maybe the hidden formations could be unlocked via a patch?

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