The Walking Dead [TV] (May Contain Discussion of Aired Episodes, Enter at Own Risk)

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Originally Posted by cdj

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Assumed Rick and Michonne would eventually hook up, but the show sure didn't waste time following Jessie's death. Sheesh.

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Frankly I am amazed how fast time passed in the first two episodes. I didn't like the relationship direction of the story. Rick should have lost his mind after the shooting incident yet he seems to have completely mellowed out.

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Originally Posted by cdj

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Assumed Rick and Michonne would eventually hook up, but the show sure didn't waste time following Jessie's death. Sheesh.

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The episode has been aired. You didn't have to spoiler that.

Also, she's now on the death list. You don't hook up with the main character and live.

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Originally Posted by jaymo76

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Frankly I am amazed how fast time passed in the first two episodes. I didn't like the relationship direction of the story. Rick should have lost his mind after the shooting incident yet he seems to have completely mellowed out.

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Now, maaaaybe if the episode had started with a disclaimer showing how much time had elapsed ('Three Months Later' with additional clues Rick & Michonne were friendly (aside from being roomates), it would have been OK. However, it just felt really disjointed. You could tell the writers had the plot set-up up through the mid-season break (Rick/Jessie and her death) and then came back with this new love story and no proper timing of how to include it.

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

The episode has been aired. You didn't have to spoiler that.

Also, she's now on the death list. You don't hook up with the main character and live.

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I had the same thought. Her days are now numbered. :(

Also, I spoiler these to be safe. I usually DVR TWD and may not watch until 1-2 days later, so I do it in case someone else is in the same boat. Though, I assume they would not look at this thread until afterwards like I do.

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I watched part of Talking Dead - something I never do as I find it incredibly lame - and Michonne was on there and said it was 2 months after the previous episode. Personally, I didn't find it disjointed and it seemed obvious to me that some time had passed.

For me, I was just aggravated at how bumbling Rick and Darryl were. I can understand not killing Jesus at the gas station. But after he stole the truck, he should have been done. Then, to have him climb on top of the truck and fight them and he still isn't killed? Bullshit. Finally, he's not watched well enough and he can escape and get into Rick's bedroom. What kind of idiots are you two?

I get that it's a "softer" Rick but that is over the top.

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Maybe 'disjointed' wasn't the right word as most of the rest of the show was fine. The newfound love story just felt sped up and that the writers didn't do a good job setting it up. Maybe that's the best way to describe it.

You're right on Rick & Darryl. That whole angle with Jesus was like a bad Benny Hill skit.

Also not a fan of Talking Dead. Between the host and most of the guests (minus cast), I think it's a waste of time.

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Gotcha on the suddenness of the relationship and I can agree with that. The funny thing is, Michonne also said that even though she didn't know that was coming she said she felt that the writers had been slowly building toward it for a long time.

Also, much like Daniel Tosh, that Talking Dead host is too um, effeminate, for me. The Show is just a limp-dicked circle jerk. Most of what they do is read dumb tweets (if I wanted to know what was on Twitter, I'd join) show you who died on the episode you just watched, field lame questions from the audience and give away terrible prizes. Why the hell would anyone want to watch that?

Steeler and CDJ you are right about Rick and Daryl, too lack. Who in the right mind would have left their car behind to drive away in a truck that hadnt been run in years and have no idea if it's reliable. They are making the show stupid to accomplish their plots

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Not a bad episode tonight. I like the potential of the group being proactive instead of sitting back in their comfy little fortress waiting to be overrun.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

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Not a bad episode tonight. I like the potential of the group being proactive instead of sitting back in their comfy little fortress waiting to be overrun.

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I have a feeling that next week is going to be a disaster as they continue to build up Negan.

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Originally Posted by cdj

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Assumed Rick and Michonne would eventually hook up, but the show sure didn't waste time following Jessie's death. Sheesh.

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Edit: guess someone already commented on this.

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Originally Posted by souljahbill

I have a feeling that next week is going to be a disaster as they continue to build up Negan.

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Funny thing is He doesn't need it. You'll know it when he does show up. [emoji1]


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Why are dingle-berries brown?

Carol is a chameleon. She adjusts on the fly to whatever situation she's in.

So I have to ask.... Is that it? All the build up to Negan... and that's it?

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I thought this storyline would go on for the rest of the season. Just like the situation with the Wolves. Why are things so short-lived this season?

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So I have to ask.... Is that it? All the build up to Negan... and that's it?

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I thought this storyline would go on for the rest of the season. Just like the situation with the Wolves. Why are things so short-lived this season?

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That's not it.

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So I have to ask.... Is that it? All the build up to Negan... and that's it?

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Um....I don't want to spoil it for you. [emoji106][emoji1]


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Originally Posted by souljahbill

Carol is a chameleon. She adjusts on the fly to whatever situation she's in.

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Word. Cool-ass episode.

Shit is about to keep being brutal if stuff stays similar with the comic........

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Originally Posted by Marlowe

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Opinion based on no evidence whatsoever.....

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Daryl is a dead man. Not from the shot. From the bossman.

I doubt he's dead.

If he is, I'm good with it though. It would eliminate an obvious comic book character (the obvious silliness of the comic-book style has been an underlying annoyance to me in this series).

I mean seriously, nevermind the mullets and flaming-red flat tops - both of which scream comic book queerness. No, I'm talking about the crossbow guy, the bow staff guy, the samurai sword gal... Come the fuck on. They're one short of the Ninja Turtles, practically!

Anyway, I get irritated when I'm reminded that this show (which is enjoyable if you can overlook some things) was written by a comic book dork who followed the time-tested comic book rule that characters must be so unique that they couldn't possibly all exist in the same space.

Anyway, that's my rant. Carry on. :)

If they get rid of Daryl but they keep Glen (in some of the worst script writing/plot twists in recent memory) then I will not be impressed. I really like Daryl's character regardless of how cliché he is. Frankly I find Glen's character and the whole post apocalyptic romance with Maggie to be tiresome. The less "romance" in the plot the better. I think there are a lot of better directions the writers could go with these two.

All-in-all I thought last night's episode was good but the season overall I have been less and less interested in the show. Beating a dead horse I know but the Glen storyline survival still bothers me and I find the plot has become somewhat dull. Maybe it's just inevitable given how long the show has been on the air but I still say this show is at it's best when they are constantly on the move.

I agree that the less romance the better.

Cool stuff.

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I mean seriously, nevermind the mullets and flaming-red flat tops - both of which scream comic book queerness. No, I'm talking about the crossbow guy, the bow staff guy, the samurai sword gal... Come the fuck on. They're one short of the Ninja Turtles, practically!

Anyway, I get irritated when I'm reminded that this show (which is enjoyable if you can overlook some things) was written by a comic book dork who followed the time-tested comic book rule that characters must be so unique that they couldn't possibly all exist in the same space.

Anyway, that's my rant. Carry on. :)

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Lol, hasn't really gotten to the more outlandish of the lot yet. I'm hyped for the finale. I have my thought as to who is getting offed but guess I'll have to wait and see. Think they've kinda hinted at it already. Think Daryl might be a red herring.


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Now you've met Negan.

The balding guy who was the spokesman for the group in this episode was the voice actor for Trevor in GTA V.


My guess for the ending:

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Either Abraham or Eugene.

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Where is Jesus during all of this? He basically got the group into this mess and has been AWOL most of the last few episodes.

I posted this on OS and on Facebook:

Before I digress, let me say that I have no problems with cliffhangers. It's expected that a show have a cliffhanger in the season finale. Having a cliffhanger is not why the ending sucked. It sucked because of the cliffhanger we got. It changed the narrative of what we're supposed to be looking forward to. Instead of us talking about Negan and how much of a bad@$$ he is and how much trouble the group is in, we're talking about who got killed. The talk is of the victim and not the victor. They spent the whole season building this dude up and now he's a footnote in his introductory scene. A much better cliffhanger is having Negan kill the person ON CAMERA (who I totally believe is Eugene) and then showing everyone's reactions ending with a split screen of Rick terrified and Negan smiling with a bloody Lucille. If that was the ending, the post ending narrative would be about what a monster Negan is and we'd be wondering how Rick and co. is gonna come back at this dude. THAT is the story they should want people wondering about until November. They totally botched it.

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The balding guy who was the spokesman for the group in this episode was the voice actor for Trevor in GTA V.


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Either Abraham or Eugene.

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Where is Jesus during all of this? He basically got the group into this mess and has been AWOL most of the last few episodes.

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I totally believe it's Eugene which would make this whole spectacle an even bigger fiasco. I don't think it's Abraham because I think they writers are having too much fun finding creative ways to make him curse (We're neck deep up shit's creek with our mouths open.)

My best guess is Eugene also.

And, Bill, I agree. This is a really bad cliffhanger. By time November rolls around I won't even care anymore who is dead.

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Originally Posted by steelerfan

By time November rolls around I won't even care anymore who is dead.

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This 100%

In my eyes they totally botched it. They should have wasted a bunch of people in this finale and left us, like Bill said, talking about how much of a badass Negan is and how the group is going to survive and react

I will say though that Jeffery Dean Morgan did a pretty awesome job. He wasn't very scary but he was hella charismatic. I'll have to rewatch it on Netflix whenever it's available and they can show the unedited scene with all the cursing.

The only good thing about the wait on the reveal is that maybe they won't be able to start the new season and get over the death in five minutes like they normally do. Maybe it will have consequences for most of the episode.

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What makes it worse yet is that no one died. With Carol's odd storyline the last few weeks, maybe they would have been better off letting her go. They've dinged up the cast the last few episodes (Daryl, Carol) but the primaries seem invincible at this point.

The problem is that the season premier will probably avoid the reveal for 40 minutes too.

Instead, they'll show what happened to Darryl and Co. between when he was shot and the Negan scene. They'll also show what happened to the mullet guy after he took of in the RV and they'll progress the Carol story.

After all that, we'll find out that it was some Alexandria character that was killed or that it was Glenn. Of course, if it was Glenn he'll miraculously survive it. :D

The more I think about it, the dumber it is. What a shitty way to end the season. Playing Guess Who is not how the season should have ended.

Yep... I'm sure it was an AMC decision to drive ratings but they screwed the pooch.

In the comics, this is considered the most impactful scene to date and it leaves you worried what will happen next all on its own. Instead they neutered it and now it's the mystery is "who was it" instead of "what the Hell will happen next".

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Well done, Philly!

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Overall I liked most of the episode but definitely didn't enjoy the ending. Put me in the camp of liking Negan's character portrayal. He wasn't incredibly scary but he was definitely able to put you on edge.

I say its just mullet head.

someone suggested that you see the shadow/light reflection of the Kids hat on Negan.
He was nect to mullet head,yes?