Cannot really tell what the tuning update actually did. The game didn't seem all that different in the one game I played. Maybe the running by the cpu was stronger but that may just be placebo? I'm not really sure.
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Cannot really tell what the tuning update actually did. The game didn't seem all that different in the one game I played. Maybe the running by the cpu was stronger but that may just be placebo? I'm not really sure.
What type of coach are you using in franchise mode? I forgot about the bug in franchise where a created team builder coach gets next to no scouting points. I only have 90 points in week 1 on my PS3! Ridiculous! I don't want to start all over as I spent almost 2 hours setting up. Can I switch to a different coach? Who are the current and legendary team building coaches in the game?
Yeah that's about all you get per week to scout with, which makes zero sense. I truly believe Looman just wants everyone to draft blind every year. It would be one thing if he gave you such little points but unlocked ratings at the combine. I mean just unlocking the letter grades for Spd, Acc, Agi, Str, Jmp, and AWR during the combine for all the prospects would allow for semi-educated guesses, but no that would be too realistic.Quote:
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I only rented it for a day so I never got around to upgrading my coach to see if doubling the scouting points to 180 a week would help, lol. I did notice the coach gained XP slower than M13 so maybe it would've took awhile.
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The one thing they did is tell you the scheme up front so you don't need to unlock that. Also, unlocking attributes is a lot cheaper. However, I agree you are still drafting blind for the most part.
I HATE drafting blind. Why can't we be an option to set how many points we get? It's my game. This kind of ruins the draft process for me.
The next roster update will remove Ray Rice. Good for you EA! There is no place in our society for scumbags who physically assault women.
I found the draft this year to be better and more realistic (check out my first round in my CFM thread). I also did a lot better than in previous years. However this game badly needs a DRAFT BOARD. I still have no idea who will be picked so it is difficult to consider whether I need to trade up or not.Quote:
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Correct me if I am wrong but should salaries still be paid in the playoffs? Also isn't there pooling of monies for teams? During my playoff run I lost a ton of money because of playing on the road and paying salary. I thought the playoffs operated in a different manner?
Last night I fired up the game and... I had to replay the opening sequence again. Also all of my progress with regards to drills/gauntlet was gone. I still have the trophies and my CFM is still intact but I was worried there for a moment. I have heard a few other people report this issue as well.
Well guys, Future Shop is doing a real nice sale right now. PS4 TLOU bundle for $399 and I would get $135 for my PS3. Infamous is $30 and Madden 15 is $50 on PS4. No deal on controllers. I've got $70 in gift cards there too. This would largely be all about an upgrade for Madden right now (I'd trade in my PS3 game and others too). Is Madden on PS4 really worth the upgrade? I'm actually enjoying the PS3 version.
In game saves would be huge.
I have not played Madden 15 on PS3.Quote:
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I still have a PS3 b/c of all the great games, I really enjoy playing them still and my kids love the Lego games. PS4 is starting to have more lego games but my kids play the heck outta games like Lego Star Wars, so I kept my PS3.
I haven't played any games that are both systems to give a good review, i.e. the Last of Us Remastered, I bought it used for PS4, it looks amazing, haven't gotten to play it much b/c I can only play that when my kids are in bed. I've seen videos of it compared to PS3 and the PS4 looks better but I'm not sure if it's 1000x better. I never played it on PS3, so the PS4 looks freaking awesome to me, for what it's worth.
Since I bought my PS4, I haven't really messed with my PS3 much. My kids still play it on the lego games but I really enjoy Madden 15, NHL 15, MLB The Show, I will probably not buy too many more PS3 games, maybe some super closeout clearance deals but I'm going to stick with PS4 games for now. The PS4 displays in true 1080 vs the PS3 that is 720 so there is a noticeable difference. More details and sharper images.
Hope this helps some, I was in your boat a few weeks ago and I ended up keeping my PS3 and all my games, it's like college books, you pay $80 for them and then when you take them back they want to give you $0.05 for them. I'd rather play them than take the shaft, plus my kids still use them.
As for used games and saving money, I bought the Gamestop PowerUp card, I think it was $15. It pays for itself. After you get the reward card they will give you a buy 2 get 1 free used game coupon. Most PS4 games cost more than $15 so you will pay the card off in one purchase. I was able to buy The Last Of Us Remastered (used) + Watch Dogs (used) and got Assassins Creed Black Flag (used) for free.
Also each time you buy games they give you reward points and you can use those reward points to print out coupons. I was able to get $20 off a new or used game with 1 coupon, and have used a few others. This Gamestop card really is a good deal.
I'll never trade in my last-gen systems. I have too much downloaded content on it that I would no longer have access to anymore nor will any store give me credit for that content.
I don't have a problem trading in the old system since my kids are playing almost solely on their tablets. I know Skip really preferred M15 on PS4. Just want to know everyones thought on M15 after a month with it.
I like Madden 15 on PS4, I have bought a handful of other PS4 games but Madden 15 is the one that stays in the machine. Since there is no NCAA game this Madden seems to fill the void, I LIKE IT!Quote:
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It's hard to say, there isn't another alternative for a football game, Madden 15 is the only PS4 football game. You could always go by Best Buy or Target or someplace that has Madden 15 on a PS4 and try it out, then you could compare it, gameplay wise to your PS3 experience.
I found this online, not sure if you've seen it before but this gives some features that aren't in the PS3/Xbox 360 versions.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...madden-15.aspx
Can't. I tried but NO Canadian chain had it in aNY machine. On release day I went to RB, FS, BB and nothing! Pathetic isn't it but Canadians are hockey crazy, not football. I'm sure they have NHL in there. They did say the decision falls on Sony/MS to what goes on the machine.Quote:
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Definitely prefer it on PS4. I wouldn't play it all unless it was on Current-Gen.Quote:
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PS3 version is an upgrade over Madden 25's PS3 version..but slightly. PS4 is so much better Gameplay wise and of course graphically.
I'd upgrade for sure, especially if kids don't need it.
Yeah the speed and feel of the game is more true on the PS4 over the PS3.
Had something interesting happen. I've been logged in as my PSN gigemaggs99 on Madden 15 and have completed the training skill challenge tutorials all 100% except for the situation ones, I think I was around 60% finished with those.
My 6 year old son, we created a PSN name for him, he isn't connected to the PSN or anything like that but we started Madden 15 as him, instead of gigemaggs99, he went through some of the training/skill challenge tutorials. He did around 10 of them and then we shut off the PS4.
When I logged back in as me (gigemaggs99) it now shows that I have done 0. It also had me replay the opening game Panthers vs Seahawks. It still has my MUT but all the other settings are gone. The strange thing is, if I look at my trophies for Madden 15 it shows that I've completed all the training skills tutorials with a bronze or higher, yet the game shows I've done 0% of them.
Oh well.
I will share some more thoughts later about the PS4 version which is much harder than the PS3 one but right now one thing is really bothering me. The player movement is terrible. I wanted more momentum but this is ridiculous. Even players like Shady and Sproles can't cut at all. If I try to cutback a run the RB goes into this stupid animation where he tries to stop or something. Manually juking and r-stick juking blow. The only good move is spin. The heavy boat momentum really hurts out routes too. I hope I can adjust because the poor movement sucks so much fun out of the running game I think I may prefer the PS3 version. This is "true step"? So far I think it sucks. It doesn't replicate the quicker players well at all IMO.
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I was one that didn't care for the movement initially, and it still takes some getting use to but I personally enjoy it over the PS3 versions..even NCAA as I still play (although whatever sliders JB uses definitely makes a difference on how it feels vs default)Quote:
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In past versions of Madden it was entirely too easy to move. You could be running to one side of the field full speed, then completely change direction to go cover something else just as fast for example on Defense.
Now I find manually I cannot do the same things that I once was able to do like that. You have to be going in the direction of the play to make one. Or be at a stopped position. Otherwise you aren't magically getting back into the play like the example I just mentioned.
It takes some getting use to but the quick players can make moves. Happens against me a good bit depending on if the guy is any good at it or not.
I do need more time with it. I've always wanted more momentum but it feels like they went too far with the quicker players. Hopefully I adjust as well. There are a lot of things I do like which I will hopefully have some more impressions of later. Will get a game tonight and I have tomorrow off. All-pro on PS4 is harder than all-madden on PS3 IMO. Will take some adjusting and some slider tweaks.
Definitely noticed that low CPU QB accuracy leads to way too many run calls. I've got it at 40 and I see more inerrant passes than did with it at 5 on PS3. Any general slider thoughts on PS4?
Yeah difficulty is better than PS3 I agree as well.
Sliders not sure. I never mess with then since I don't play CPU
These are my early impressions and I will re-iterate my thoughts on the player movement below. I played 25+ games on the PS3 and I really liked that game. I thought it was the best Madden ever on PS3. It looked good although it wasn’t always balanced. The game was overly offensive, 3rd and short was automatic to pick up and the defensive secondary play very suspect. I’ve only played about 3 games or so total on the PS4 so these are early impressions of the switch.
First the game looks really good. The graphics are good but at the same time they don’t blow me away. I think the general leap from PS3 to PS4 just isn’t that huge as in the past. I don’t play on the super close cameras and I’m not a graphics whore anyway. Some of the things I do notice are the grass, the much improved crowds in the stands and the lighting. It’s certainly better looking than the PS3 but the graphics aren’t a system seller imo.
The PS4 game is MUCH harder. I find all-pro on PS4 more difficult than All-Madden on PS3. The game is much more balanced out of the box on PS4 and defense is a lot stronger as well. The running game is much harder and the secondary play seems better. Animations are smoother and the line play is a lot nicer. Not only do you get the mini-game with time button presses which is a huge improvement over confusing PS3 line play but you also get the defensive camera options. I’ve only messed with those a little but they are cool. The line play is more organic overall.
I’m fine with the new play screen. If I had the choice I’d go back to the PS3 one since it takes too long to pick my play. I’m rushing more than before but I don’t see it as a really big deal. I think there are too many cut scene displays after plays but overall presentation is good. The halftime show is good and I’ve seen a game track type of highlight package that you used to get on NCAA 14. Never saw that on PS3. The injury cut scenes are a lot better too although Danielle Bellini seems to be missing at times.
The QB accuracies are actually a lot better on PS4. With cpu at 40 I saw EJ Manuel overthrow guys a couple times. At 5 on PS3 he rarely missed. But the PS4 cpu QB accuracy slider does impact the playcalling from my short time (and what I read). I tried it at 10 and the play calls were 90% runs.
Overall the PS4 is an improvement in almost every area except one huge area that I find VERY annoying. The player momentum and control is terrible. I’ve complained about the lack of momentum and overly twitchy player movement on the PS3 but this system is not what I wanted. It feels like you are steering a large boat with every player. I’m fine if that was for a back like Blount or a FB but not for Shady McCoy or Sproles. The one cut RB feels like its dead on the PS4. Trying to make any sort of cutback and your RB enters into a pitter-patter animation where they try to stop dead in their tracks instead of a cut upfield. I loved being able to see a hole and cut back into it on the PS3. I feel like that’s almost impossible now. And making guys miss manually with the L-stick? Gone. With McCoy and Sproles their juke move with the precision modifier isn’t bad but you have to execute it very early and pray. Right now whenever I’m in the open field I just get tackled. So right now I can’t cut back and I can’t make people miss. So running plays are basically follow the play through the hole and get tackled. I feel I have little impact and the running game just isn’t fun. Maybe this game has a steep learning curve but this area is a HUGE negative compared to the PS3 for me right now. It would be nice if the quicker backs got better animations to truly reflect their skill set.
So overall I’m finding Madden PS4 really good in almost every area. Smoother, better looking, more defense, better balance but the player movement in the running game is so poor it just sucks the fun out it for me. It’s really hard to adjust to this after the PS3 version. I hope Skip is right and that I can learn to adjust and enjoy running the ball again.
Well I can tell you that it's definitely not as easy to run as it was last 2 version...which is what we all wanted, I know I definitely did.Quote:
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Initially I did feel like I was unable to control the RB after the snap for that split second but I'm starting to get more and more of a feel for it.
Also i DEFINITELY agree Line play is more organic. I actually just spoke with a friend of mine and said the exact same thing you just did.
I like the fact that if you send more than blocking that it can result in a sack or atleast a better matchup.
There are a lot more post play celebrations by players on PS4. I like that. The field degradation could be better. The grass turns Brown too easy.
I popped in the NHL demo with my brother. Madden looks so much better. NHL 15 does not look next gen IMO.
I think like others have said it takes some getting used to, especially if you've played other Madden versions a lot more. I was used to NCAA on PS3 as that was the football game that I played all the time. When I started playing Madden 15 on PS4 I was yelling at the T.V., "WHY ON EARTH DOES HE STOP TO MAKE A CUT!???" I saw this a lot on passes, the WR would catch the ball, say on a crossing route, as soon as he caught the ball (user controlled catch) I'd tell him to go UP the field and he would stop in his tracks, then face up the field, then start moving but by this time he was tackled.
What I've found that works better is to still take control of the WR while the pass is enroute but allow the CPU to control his movement, I don't touch the L-stick until he turns up field on his own, he does it without stopping his momentum and then I touch the L-stick to take over control of his direction. So far it seems like I have better control using this method.
Same with the HB, when I run inside I STAY OFF THE SPRINT, I can't make cuts to holes or change directions if I even think of using the sprint, if I don't and I'm patient I can actually hit holes and allow my blockers to do their jobs then I can get nice runs.
As far as sliders, I'm not good. I was in the OD here but I couldn't do a thing. I've been using these All-Pro sliders from O.S. and I really like them, they seem to make for a really FUN game. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...e-sliders.html
I like the gameplay on the above sliders, it's nice that faster players can outrun slower players and vice-verse.
Thanks for the thoughts. I think I'm thinking the same thing. I am adjusting and accepting it more now.
That slider set uses 0 threshold. I may try that to separate the speedy guys some more.
I've struggled hitting the deep ball. Do you have to lead them deeper as I usually have it fall short and it gets broken up. I think the passes are a touch slower on PS4 compared to PS3. Not sure.
I like how there is a noticeable difference in speedy guys vs slower guys using these sliders.Quote:
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I do not have much luck with the deep ball. I've thrown a lot of INTs trying to throw it deep. The only time I seem to get a good deep ball is on PA and what looks like busted coverage. If I lead the pass deep the WR seems to run under the ball and make the catch, I can press O to take over him but if I press O and then the L-stick it will make him stutter just enough to slow his momentum. I allow the WR to run on his own until near the ball then I press Triangle to user catch it.
Sometimes I can get decent success with the deep ball on streak routes, I use the R-stick prior to snapping the ball to look at the match-up and if my WR has an advantage on speed then I go for the deep pass as usually he'll get past the CB, if the CB has a higher speed rating then it's usually picked.
I'm going to redo my Browns franchise very soon. I was 2-5-1 on PS3. Let's see if I'm much better on PS4. Getting used to it. I really appreciate the graphics after seeing the weak looking NHL 15 demo (comments solely directed to looks).
I'm glad the PS4 version has more defense. The run defense is better and LBs fly to the ball. But the interior DL still get knocked off the ball EVERY time on short yardage. You never see them get a TFL on an inside run. 3rd and 1 is still automatic. It would be nice if it was more dynamic and it didn't feel cheap to call a normal inside run on 3rd and short. The run game needs more balance on inside vs outside IMO.
You must not be playing on All MaddenQuote:
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I still can't run inside very much when playing a reasonable opponent. Especially the way the Defense swarms to the ball.
I've had DT's and DE's beat their man badly and get me shortly after getting the handoff.
Now the Q1 Trap and Inside Zone plays seem to work overly well, but not all the time.
I use the Steelers too which have 2 solid Guards and a very good Center.
I've tried it on all-madden in practice mode and its the same thing, even with 0 run block. The lbs make plays but the dts don't get TFL. They always get driven back a it. Maybe it's different in franchise. I'm not saying I'm averaging 6 yards a carry inside. Just saying the DTs don't make plays or get upfield ever and that results in 3Rd and inches being automatic. I'll see Samson Satele, who is a small center, routinely move Nts back.
I'd love to see a single video of a DT whipping a G/C on an inside run resulting in a TFL. I didn't see it on any level on PS3 and haven't seen it on PS4. LBs will make some plays though.
Finally getting our CFM off on the ground. Played Escobar the other night, just love how smooth the play is online.
I found that sliders on the PS3 in Play now worked very similar to franchise. Not so on PS4. The CPU rushing attack is much weaker in franchise. Going to have to mess with sliders significantly.
And the Titans signed Ray Rice in my franchise lol.
I LOVE in game saves. But they are a bit wonky in that it doesn't save weather or uniform choices. One game it was sunny and after I resumed it was raining. The Titans were using Oiler throwbacks and when I resumed they were wearing their normal unis lol. It would also be a small touch if they fixed the football bouncing off the FG nets like trampolines. Some bounce right back on the field.
I stuck the game in for the first time since... When did Destiny come out? Anyway, I have always gone out of my way to criticize the art team at Tiburon. Maybe it was low blood sugar or my eyesight being not what it used to be but the in-game graphics kinda *wowed me. Running the ball on "Zoom" is a beautiful thing. This is something I have never uttered with an EA football game. Only gripe with Zoom on offense is the passing is set too far back, it's zoom for a reason. Forces me to switch camera back to standard every time I pass but at least I have the option. Defensive camera has completely changed the way I play defense, for the better.
*Horrific in-game sidelines not included as part of the wow factor.
BJ Raji takes flight :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBreJCtmaDg
I have seen it countless amount of timesQuote:
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You playing the CPU? I'm only speaking on All-Madden user vs user games.
I'll put up video next time it happens
I only play the cpu, never online. I never see the DT break through on All-Pro and I haven't seen it on All Madden in practice mode either (even with user run block at 0). I see LBs break through occassionally and I'll see DEs do it on outside runs but the inside runs are 99% positive yardage. I know practice isn't perfect in replicating Play Now or Franchise. Heck the cpu rushing attack is quite a bit weaker on All Pro in franchise mode. I've got cpu Run Block at 100 and I'm starting to think I will have to go to all-Madden just to fix that part of the game but my passing skills suck. I think I would get destroyed on All Madden in that department.Quote:
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I've played more ranked pick up games than I have the past 3 versions combined so far, but that was out of messing around for the most part with teams I've never used. Had it happen last night against the Cardinals on All-Pro. Didn't get to get a video because the guy quit on me.Quote:
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Against my league friends though those are the games played on All-Madden. I've seen it happen a good bit when the Q1 Trap is used...which in itself is a very effective play, but if you have a solid DT he will blow it up a good bit also.
I don't just much from playing CPU or practice mode which still is the CPU.
My inside run game has been getting destroyed either at the point of attack for a no gain or 1-yd gain. Certain runs though will have a great deal of effectiveness possibly causing what you are seeing
Pistol: Inside Split Zone
Pistol: Strong Power
Pistol: Inside Zone
Any Formation: Inside Zone
Any Formation: Q1 Trap
These are a favorite among lobbyists lol