You could probably even test it in NCAA11... I can't say for certain but I'm willing to bet 1 penny that it works the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Printable View
You could probably even test it in NCAA11... I can't say for certain but I'm willing to bet 1 penny that it works the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
If only I still had '11 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
What kind of playbook does Temple have? With Addazio it should now be a spread offense with some option concepts, like Florida last year. Does it reflect that?
Could maybe one of you fine gentlemen check for me as to if there is Jet Sweep in the Ace & Pistol Spread/4wr trips sets. Thanks in advance.
Does the flexbone have WB dive out of more formations than just flexbone normal?
Does the QB midline and toss actually work on this years game?
Is the QB/FB mesh sped up this year so he doesnt get tackled by the backside end as much?
The custom playbooks video shows a Jet Sweep out of Pistol Ace, and Bama has a Jet Sweep out of Pistol Slot in the demo ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
I know that's not the exact answer you're looking for, but it's a good sign.
Pistol AceQuote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Do3...mbedded#t=434s
I'll try to remember to check the other formations this evening.
Thanks for the link.
However, I was looking specifically for them in Ace Spread & 4Wr Trips and Pistol Spread and 4Wr Trips. Sorry for any confusion.
was Cool to see what Pistol Ace has to offer.
Ah... misunderstood. I'll take a look tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
Yeah, I'm eager to see the plays Ace Spread and Ace 4WR Trips, too. I'm hoping at some point G will put together another custom playbook video walkthrough showing plays/formations that weren't in the first video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
Since you guys have the game early who is working on the playbook spreadsheet this year?
gschwendt
not a problem, in my head it made sense, not always the case in reality...
I doubt they did in the Ace's but hoping they are in the Pistol sets.
Trying to get my Run & Shoot offense ready to go so when I put the game in I can be playing with my playbook fairly quickly.
I did it last year but not sure if I'll be putting something like that together this year or not since Custom Playbooks are in the game. One thing I may do is review some Custom Playbook stuff like how many run & pass plays are available in each formation, default goalline formation for each playbook, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by oweb26
That sounds handy -- especially default goalline formations. I agree that with custom playbooks I see no point in putting together another playbook spreadsheet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
Is it possible to get the run plays from Shotgun Bunch?
No to all of these. However, while I checked all 4WR in Ace & Pistol and still found none, I did find find a WR Quick in the Ace - Slot Flex so you could always add that formation to your repertoire and just formation/package sub a WR for the TE. It seems to work fairly well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
thanks for checking for me. I will pass on any odd substitute formations like that, I am not a fan of formations with the outside WR(s) in Flanker positions. Not the end of the world it is there, bit dumbfounded it isn't, but feel the same on how EA dissed Ellerson by not putting in Army's Splitbone...
What a shame :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Salukifan
Two things:
1. Does the type of offense (multiple, option, etc.) as a base for your custom book determine how many plays you can put in or is maxed at 375?
2. could you possibly go through air forces book and tell me these things:
1. Maryland I Wide in their book?
2. Are there any ACE formations? And if so are they the useless ones from last year?
3. How many standard I-forms are in the book
4. How many Flexbones?
5. And do they have any offset I-gun formations?
Basically has it changed at all?
You do realize that if Air Force's playbook doesn't have any of those formations that you can add them yourself with custom playbooks, right? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SpreadOption
I'm not trying to be a d*ck, but I'm just saying that custom playbooks should solve (almost) any deficiency you might find in Air Force's default playbook.
The base playbook you choose determines the number of plays. I think it's between 370 and 377 depending on the team. Bama's one back playbook (as show in the video) offers 375 plays.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpreadOption
Hail Mary, Goal Line and Special Teams are included in each playbook, and I think it's ultimately Goal Line that determines the max number of plays you'll have.
Questions:
Is it at all possible for y'all to run some shotgun/short snap plays and post a video of them (run/pass)?
Any way to post how many formations you can use after choosing a base playbook? (example: Florida's book might use 35 of the 40, compared to, lets say...Texas, who uses 37 of 40)
Are we going to get a defensive custom playbook walkthrough like we did with offense?
Thanks for all this stuff that y'all do.
1) I ran a few plays from the Arizona State version (named differently but it's the same formation) in the gameplay video I posted of Oklahoma State at Arizona State. I actually did so intentionally since I knew you asked about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316
2) I'll probably eventually cover that in a spreadsheet like I did in the playbook spreadsheet last year, but most likely it will probably be closer to release before I get to anything like that.
3) I'll see if I can't put one together... I'm still trying to decide what kind of defensive playbook I want to build but I'll try to put one together this weekend at some point
I understand that, but if I don't have to change much it's a lot easierQuote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
Is 4-2-5 still the only formation with the double slots play? It used to be a play you could run out of other formations (like the Dime) in past versions of the game, and then in NCAA 11 it was limited to the 4-2-5 norma/under/over.
Keontez & Salukifan have lucked out... the Pitt at WVU gameplay video errored out during upload so their video jumped ahead in the queue.
Look at plays included in Flexbone Close and Flexbone Normal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB4ejvJCwc8
Thanks gschwendt,
I really appreciate all your help in answering my questions.
How is the option game out of the I formations and Ace formations? Thanks in advance.
Auburn's playbook seems to have a extra wildcat formation then the ones listed in shotgun in the video does this mean there are formations specific to certian teams that cant be add to custom playbooks unless you start with that teams playbook? I think the one in auburns was name wildcat trey somthing-or-nother, maybe wildcat trips? Idk but in the auburn vs oregon video its there but not in the custom playbooks menu.
Good eye. You can see Auburn's Wildcat Tiger Trey formation in the video below at 3:44. I couldn't spot it in the custom playbooks video (Wildcat and Wildcat Spread are there). Maybe it's hidden in another formation? I hope so ... The devs did say we'd be able to take any play/formation in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoleyLions
In fact, I think it HAS to be in the game. If you were to crack open Auburn's default playbook in custom playbooks, it'd be there ... right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF6gvdhH4g4
I loved that play in NCAA Football 11, hope it's in for Dime as I might just stick to 4-3 this year with improved zone coverage though blitzes seem to work best so maybe i will go back to 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 maybe even...Quote:
Originally Posted by jwallace0317
Defensive Playbook Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNYMA7OBh3A
From the two 4-2-5 formations reviewed in this vid, I don't see double slots. Has the play also been eradicated from the other 4-2-5 formations as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
In general, I notice that there are very few Cover 1 edge blitzes in the 4-3 and 4-2-5 playbooks. I did notice that there was one in 4-3 Under that is not in the default playbooks but which you can add in custom playbooks (so it must be in the Multiple playbook). I am interested to know why these plays were removed, and whether there are any cover 1 safety blitzes in any of the 4-2-5 formations that were not shown in the video. I am thinking that I might get creative and make a defensive playbook that replaces some of the Nickel formations with 4-2-5 formations.
Also, it's not a strictly playbook thing, but with regards to the 4-2-5 and the 3-3-5, I wonder if it would be possible to go into practice mode and look at what happens with the man alignment against various types of offensive formations (trips, twins, quads, y-trips, formations with trips to one side and a TE on the other, etc...). I understand if it would take too long, but I'm particularly interested to see what kinds of alignments you get from Cover 1, Cover 2, and various forms of Cover 0 man to man. I'm more interested in the 4-2-5 than the 3-3-5, though others may differ.
From some of the gameplay videos, I am concerned about the extent to which the 4-2-5 is a viable base defense this year due to the man alignment issues.
Excellent video! Thanks much for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
With the 4-4 and 4-6 there seemed to be only one formation for each (split and Bear). That seems like a regression considering older versions had a lot more formations for the 4-6 and the 4-4 at least had 4-4 Stack.
Seems like Okie Across is missing from 4-2-5...is that because you chose a 4-3 base playbook?
I think 4-2-5 Across and 4-2-5 Okie Across are the same thing... at least comparing a screenshot from the 25 plays released by EA to the video, they appear to have the same alignment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316
Aside from Goalline & Special Teams, you should have every formation available to you to decide which ones to include and not include.
Negative to both of your questions. It's not missing (it's apparently only called "Across" now), nor does it have anything to do with choosing 4-3 as base.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316
I didn't think of that. The name "okie" not being around threw me off. Thanks fellas.
Thought some might like a list of all the D formations you can select in custom playbooks.
3-3-5
Across
Bear
Okie
Split
Stack
3-4
Even
Normal
Over
Predator
Solid
Under
4-2-5
Across
Normal
Over
Under
Under Slide
4-3
Normal
Over
Under
4-4
Split
46
Bear
5-2
Normal
Dime
3-2-6
Normal
Nickle
1-5-5
1-5-5 Prowl
2-4-5
3-3-5
Normal
Strong
Quarter
3 Deep
Normal
Total: 32
so in other words, you can have EVERY Defense in one playbook (minus the play count)
Anything with less then 4 linemen outside of Quarters is out of my defensive playbook.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk