Your rational is sound ... but I don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa LoneStar
I still say it's to hold the clipboard :P
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Your rational is sound ... but I don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa LoneStar
I still say it's to hold the clipboard :P
Ha....I really want an elite dual threat guy to run the option with....I have been searching for even a 3* guy to just redshirt and develop, but they aren't interested in coming to Austin :(
it would be funny for papa to have to recruit with arkansas in ncaaa 12, i think everyone would laugh.
[espnu150][5star] QB Lee Williams
#2 QB, #17 overall prospect
Forest Hill, TX
6'2", 192lbs
Commited to Oklahoma over TCU and Boise State.
Williams is a pocket passer QB who draws comparisons to Heisman winner Sam Bradford. Williams has a cannon for an arm with B+ THP and B THA.
Stephen Robinson
#6 T | #48 OVR
[4star] [espnu150]
6'6" 279 lbs
Menasha, WI
Robinson will likely move to Guard to provide depth for next season and build for the future.
Michigan lands another corner:
Joel Bush - CB
Redondo Beach, CA
6'0'' 194 LBS
3-Star
Evaluation:
Bush is an intriguing cornerback prospect with good size and athleticism that project well as an overall defensive back at the college level. Tall, long and rangy; may actually make the move to safety if he continues to physically develop. On the perimeter he shows flashes of good cover corner skills, particularly when deployed in press-man and bump and run coverages where he can utilize his good arm length. Does a good job rerouting and impeding the receiver's release off the line. Shows good quickness out of his breaks and flashes of smooth footwork and turns for a corner with his height. Mirrors receivers tightly and shows he can stick to the hip and defend the ball with his play-side hand. Provides favorable matchups on the jump-ball with his height, sound tracking skills and overall athleticism. Adjusts his body well to the throw. Competes and does a good job staying between the ball and receiver. Ball skills are marginal. Shows good underneath range on perimeter run and pass support with his long stride and reach as a tackler. While overall fluid for a taller corner and flexible through the hips, his transitional skills are a weaker area. Shows some wasted motion coming out of his pedal and can be rigid. Lacks great explosion and plant and drive skill breaking underneath. Quick with good range but feel his top-end speed will be challenged vertically. Footwork needs some polish as a pure lockdown; can get turned and feel he will need over the top help at the major college level. Aggressive, closes hard and makes solid contact as a tackler but has a narrow base with marginal power through his hips to project high as a true safety at this time. Overall, Bush is still a scheme versatile defensive back who could play corner (preferably underneath, Nickel or develop into a safety in the right defense. Not an immediate impact type of defender but will be attractable as a prospect with the natural tools he has to develop.
Josh Smith
MLB #10 http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...lies/4star.gif
6'0"
243 lbs
Bakersfield, Ca
Speed B
Tackle B-
Man Coverage C
Zone Coverage D
Josh comes in as a Linebacker that could fit in right away with the Trojans. He's got good speed and coverage skills and recognizes plays very well. Maybe one of the best in this years recruiting class. He also uses his 243 lbs to get off of blocks well. He should be able to use a redshirt year to work on a few things and ready to contribute by his sophomore year.
I know who I am targeting in zone coverage, D zone rating, ouch!
LOL - we don't play zone at USC. He'll be a straight up blitzer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneback
I look forward to it....hopefully I won't get strong-armed off the Razorbacks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by fsuprime
[4star] [espnu150] MLB Rob Tucker
* Height: 5'11"
* Weight: 227 lbs
* Hometown: Olympia, WA
* Tendency: Balanced
* Top 3 Schools: #1 Penn State, #2 Oklahoma, #3 Alabama
Tackle B
Hit Power C+
Pursuit B
Play Recognition C-
Man Coverage C-
Zone Coverage C-
Rob is coming into PSU with good upside with his instincts but he is really lacking in the pass coverage area. The hope is to get him in early and Redshirt him and have him basically sit back and really learn his responsibilities as a MLB. Rob comes from a high school were they ran the ball basically so there will be a transition once he arrives on campus.
[5star] [espnu150] QB Antonio Smith
* Height: 6'4"
* Weight: 209 lbs
* Hometown: West Orange, NJ
* Tendency: Balanced
* Top 3 Schools: #1 Penn State, #2 Florida State, #3 Texas
Throw Power B
Throw Accuracy B
Antonio will redshirt this upcoming season for PSU. When asked about coming to PSU with a class of 2SR's, 2JR's, and 2 FR that are redshirting, Smith was quick to let everyone know, he came to PSU to compete and win the starting job right from the start. He hopes to impress the staff enough in the preseason to avoid a RS but is fine if that happens as well.
I have had the best recruiting year this year I have ever had in any dynasty I have ever played. While this year has been strange with a very large number of recruits interested in VT, I changed up my strategy a little bit too. On week 1, I only put 10 prospects on my board, one or two of whatever position I need. In years past, I would need 1 or 2 positions and struggle to get them. This year, I needed 6 positions and have managed to land them all by week 8.
What I have done is as I said, I started with 10 players on the board and spent 1 hour on each of them. I hit several insta-commits on week one, so I added some more. Once I started getting a big lead against the players #2, I started adding positions not on my team needs page, but rather positions that I feel are key to have depth in and to improve the talent at certain positions. I skipped recruiting several weeks for some 4*, #1 interest guys because I had such a big lead and spent more time on those who I had just added. I only really had to fight 2 of you for recruits all year, Oklahoma lost a 4* to me while we fought for 1 point difference for a few weeks and I lost one to Penn St under the same situation (I think they were both 4* SS).
At this point I have hit a delimna, I only have 9 scholly's left and I expect to pick up 11 other guys. IDK who to remove from the board, even though I think I am going to have to cut some of the guys that I recruited. It's awesome and frustrating at the same time.
Are there any specific recruiting strategies that you guys use?
Here is a look at the Hurricane's recruiting class so far this season.
Brady Douglas
QB [5star][espnu150]
6'5" 237lbs
Fenton, MI
Speed- B
Agility- B
Throw Power- B-
Throw Accurracy- C+
Brady looks to come in and redshirt to work on his accuracy and hopes to push for a starting roll in a few years.
Matt Foster
FB [2star]
6'2" 212lbs
Kilgore, TX
Speed- B
Carry- C+
Pass Block- C-
Run Block- C
Catch- C
Matt comes in to fill a position of need and could be an added receiving threat out of the backfield with his speed and catching ability.
Harrison Rivas
TE [4star][espnu150]
6'5" 245lbs
Spring Hill, Fl
Speed- B-
Catch- B-
Pass Block- C-
Run Block- C
Harrison will provide some much needed depth at the TE position and looks to be a receiving threat in certain formations. He will need to work on his blocking abilities, but should turn out to be a good one for the Canes for years to come.
Stacy Keith
OT [4star][espnu150]
6'5" 287lbs
St. Cloud, Fl
Pass Block- C+
Run Block- C
Strength- C+
Stacy comes in looking to redshirt and perfect his craft. He has the frame to put on about 25lbs and the coaching staff is hoping he will be the future blindside protector of Douglas.
Eric Allen
WR [4star][espnu150]
6'1" 163lbs
Scottsboro, Al
Speed- B+
Catch- C-
Spectacular Catch- B-
Route Running- C
Eric will look to add some muscle in the offseason and work on his ball skills.
John Richardson
HB [4star][espnu150]
6'0" 180lbs
Adamsville, Al
Speed- B+
Agility- C+
Acceleration- B-
Break Tackle- B
John will look to come in and be a situation back in his first year and take over the roll of feature back in year two.
Tim White
SS [3star]
6'1" 202lbs
Winter Haven, Fl
Speed- B
Tackle- C+
Hit Power- C
Zone Coverage- C+
Tim may be moved to OLB if he can put on some weight in the offseason otherwise he will redshirt to work on his coverage skills.
Kawika Williams
T [4star][espnu150]
6'1" 306lbs
Royal Pines, NC
Strength- C+
Run Block- C
Pass Block- C+
Coaches are thinking Kawika may be suited to play inside at guard with his lack of height. Guard is a position of need so it may be a perfect match.
Clay Brewer
G [4star][espnu150]
6'3" 302lbs
Marietta, Ga
Strength- B-
Pass Block- C+
Run Block- B+
Coaches considered Clay the best interior lineman in the class even though he is a JUCO(soph). He looks to start from day one with 4 of the 5 starters on the O-line leaving after the season.
Adam Maxwell
C [4star][espnu150]
6'0" 275lbs
Brownsville, LA
Strength- C
Pass Block- B-
Run Block- B-
Adam is another recruit that joined the Canes because of his opportunity to play right away. O-line was a major position of need and the coaching staff came up big this season.
Adam McLaurin
OLB [3star]
6'4" 200lbs
Lochearn, MD
Speed- B
Tackle- C+
Block Shedding- B-
Pursuit- B
Adam is the latest to sign and is at a position that needs some serious depth. He has the play making ability the coaching staff covets in the OLB position.
I can honestly say that I've never come close to filling my schollie limit. Of course I never usually have more the 67, 68 on my roster. I tend to focus on a core group of players usually around 15. I'll fill my board with 35 but usually never get to the bottom guys unless I land a bunch early.Quote:
Originally Posted by RcSinger
I only put between 10-15 on my board so I don't miss any X2's. It really depends on the recruiting class on how many people I put on my board. If it is a really good class and I have quite a few guys interested, I will put a few more on my board.
I only hope to land around 15 players a year, with a reshirt year that will give me a rolling 75 if everyone stays for 5 years.
yep, im on the oneback plan, i suffered through my big loss of seniors this year so it should normal out
Quarterback
HalfBack
FullBack
Wide Reciever
Offensive Line
Defensive Line
Corners
Safties
Kicking
14 Seniors leaving, 8 of them starters, and 4 of those on the o line. I expect to lose some juniors as well, however I look to score several more 4*'s and I believe I will actually land 25 scholly's this season. Gonna be tough come cut players time.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
Pierre Nelson
#13 FB | #2249 OVR
[1star]
6'3" 227 lbs
Marshall, MO
Matt Schmidt http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...lies/4star.gif http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...s/ESPNU150.png
DE #4
6'3"
234 lbs
Santa Cruz, CA
Strength - C
Tackle - C
Power Moves - B+
Block Shedding - B
Other offers - Alabama
Samuel Brothers http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...lies/4star.gif http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...s/ESPNU150.png
SS #8
6'1"
195 lbs
El Cajon, Ca
Speed - B-
Man Coverage - B
Zone Coverage - B
Press - B-
Tackle - C
Hit Power B
Other offers - Stanford, Alabama
Aaron Wheeler http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...lies/4star.gif http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...s/ESPNU150.png
OLB #2
6'3"
249 lbs
La Verne, CA
Speed B
Tackle B
Man Coverage C-
Zone Coverage C-
More new Aggies:
Bill Shaw, #6 FS / #136 OVR, [4star], [espnu150]
Nick "Russ" Kiniry, #8 ATH / #149 OVR, [4star], [espnu150] -- Chose A&M over Oklahoma
Antonio McNair, #15 HB, [4star]
Bryan Smith, #28 WR, [4star]
Clinton McMillan, #50 QB, [3star]
Ryan Anderson, #45 CB, [3star]
Steve Brock, #49 CB, [3star]
Week 11 Top 25 Update -- Lots of shakeup this weekQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
#2 Penn State
#4 Virginia Tech
#5 Texas
#6 Michigan
#7 USC
#8 Texas A&M
#10 Miami
#11 Florida State
On another note, the A&M coaching staff is rather annoyed that Rivals.com is reporting that the Penn State coaching staff is no longer ignoring JUCO stud Nick Jefferson (G #23). His ridiculously incredible blocking skills would have looked really good in maroon and white.
I'm annoyed because every diamond that I find I spend weeks on only to have one of my rivals appear in his top 5 before I even appear in his top 10 :/Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Picked up another 4* HB
62 carry? hes trying to fuck
It's D-, I input the values into a spreadsheet and it recalculated to a predetermined value, for instance; C- is represented as 72, C is 75, and C+ is 77. I do that so I can see the relative strength compared to the current team. But yeah, D- sux.
im just drunk, so saying 'tryin to fuck' is funny to me right now
Well, My wifey is getting a shower and I am pretty sure I wont be trying to fuck in a few minutes, I think I'll be doin it.. But it is funny.
well it seems your tryin to fuck now, and will fuck in a few minutes, its a very useful term :)
lol, True, but I need 2 be off here before she gets out. Football forums are a turn off to her.
"HAVE DrUnK will Travel"
Or Stumble.
Enjoy your evening prime.
[4star] OLB (#7) Tyrone Williams 6'3 231 lbs, Arlington Heights, IL
Williams chose FSU over Alabama. Possesses great size and strength and will make the move to MLB at FSU, has a great chance to see the field early in his career. Lacks ideal speed for the outside but his B+ acceleration makes him very similar to graduating MLB Jeff Luc who never had great speed either but made up for it with strength and power roaming the middle of the field.
[4star] DE(#9) Josh Hamilton 6'0 241 lbs, St. Petersburg, FL
Josh chose the Noles over psu, alabama, and texas. Lacks prototypical size for the DE Position but has drawn comparisons to elvis dumervil and dwight freeney with his freakish speed off the edge and great pursuit.
[3star] OLB (#41) Maurice Jones 6'0 230 lbs, Baker, LA
Maurie chose FSU over early favorite wisconsin. This juco transfer looks to compete at MLB right off the bat and will battle freshman Tyrone Williams for 2nd string honors. His grades kept him a 3* prospect but his abilities are as good as any prospect out there, particularly his zone coverage skills.
spd B
acc B
tkl B+
prc C+
blkshd C+
ZCV B+
mcv C+
hpw B-
str B-
[3star]SS (#42) Steven Mckinley 6'1 210 lbs Carencro, LA
Steven chose the Noles over nebraska and wisconsin. Another juco prospect, Steven is looking to compete for OLB or MLB duties but may also stay at SS.
spd B-
acc A
agi C+
MCV B
zcv B
prc C+
hpw B
ctch C
str C+
[3star]SS (#41) Eric Carter 6'0 192 lbs, Beverly Hills, CA
Eric is a sleeper prospect who can play OLB or SS and will be expected to become a captain on special teams which is where he will likely be for most of his career. Eric also expected to help build a pipeline into California for FSU.
spd C+
acc B+
tkl B-
mcv B+
zcv B-
prc C+
hpw B-
prst B+
str C
Week 13 Top 25 UpdateQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
#2 Virginia Tech
#3 Penn State
#5 Texas
#7 USC
#8 Florida State
#9 Miami
#10 Texas A&M
#11 Michigan
#23 Oklahoma
Big moves for Oklahoma, they were in the 100+ range a few weeks ago.
I guess recruiting in Texas is easyQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
[3star] JUCO G Nick Jefferson
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 275 lbs
Hometown: Rockingham, NC
Tendency: Balanced
Top 3 Schools: #1 Penn State, #2 Clemson, #3 Michigan
Pass Block B-
Run Block B-
Pass Block Strength C-
Pass Block Footwork C
Run Block FootworkB-
Run Block Foot Strength B
Impact Blocking C+
Nick was someone the staff almost slow played to much as he was on their board but the staff didn't seem that interested early on but after reviewing a few tapes realized they needed this kid.
Indeed. Jeff has cleaned up on [4star] and [3star] recruits in-state....when I started looking at guys after losing out on out-of-state guys....I looked in-state and EVERY single solid prospect had the Aggies with a healthy lead. Well done, Jeff.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
I am sure Jeff will incourage you continuing to go out of state for recruits.
if there is a shift to the sec in a few years i could see many people having to shift their focus back in state lol. Ive been doing well in mississippi, alabama and louisiana
No. While Papa claims I've "cleaned up", all I've really done is go after targets that he's not going after. Any time we compete over a prospect, I'm going to lose ... easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by psuexv
Now, that said ... recruiting in Texas is easy in the manner that I had a lot of interested recruits. But I'm pretty sure you did too ;)
I would have preferred that the Penn State staff didn't realize that. A very good JUCO, he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop