Especially this late in the season.
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Especially this late in the season.
On one of the QBs ... I had my Visit in Week 5, Bama did theirs in Week 10. I moved up to -1 in Week 9 ... and have been at -1 since, including their visit week (I guess you can't commit to a team after a visit without a scholarship offer). That's ridiculous.
To add to that, IMO you should get a larger bonus the earlier you offer a scholarship. I've obviously never been recruited but I would think I would give a bigger boost to a school if they've offered me a scholarship early on compared to a johnny-come-lately.
Now, I will say that if you're targeting a player that's down to his Top 5 or Top 3, and you're outside that group (maybe just Top 3), he will give you 0 points for an offer sand say something along the lines of "C'mon coach, like there's any chance I'm coming to your school".
But I agree with you that there should be a general downward trend the later you offer a player, unless he has very few offers.
Michigan inks two more:
Mark Jackson - P
Tiffin, OH
6'4'' 209 LBS
3-Star
Ratings:
Kick Power B, Kick Accuracy C+
Evaluation:
Jackson is a smooth and powerful kicker/punter. He gets great extension on his field goals. The ball really jumps off his foot and his height on field goals is impressive. His kick offs have solid hang-times. He had multiple four second hang-times on his kick offs in games. The ball comes off his foot quickly on his kick offs. He should be able to drive kick offs well into the wind at the next level. His punting is also impressive with a short 2 step approach and a smooth powerful follow through. He does not swipe across the ball the way many high school punters tend to punt. Miller has great athletic tools upon which to build on in college. His high school resume is solid and he should be able to contribute early in college.
Josh O'Connor - DT
Fort Lee, NJ
6'4'' 279 LBS
4-Star
Ratings
Strength B-, Tackle B-, Hit Power B-, Pursuit B-, Power Moves B+, Finesse Moves B-, Block Shedding B-
Evaluation:
O'Connor is a defender who is capable of being a menace in the trenches. He has good size with the frame to add more bulk and he also brings some versatility to the table. He could fit as a defensive tackle / "three"-technique in a 4-3 defense and could also fit well at the end spot in 3-4. You like the energy he plays with and at this point he can seem a little like a 'bull in a china shop' at times. He can be explosive off the ball, but you would like to see him be more consistent in his get-off. He does have good strength and can generate power and deliver a serious blow on contact that can knock blockers on their heels and at times their butt. He does a solid job of using his hands and creating some separation. Displays the ability to be engage blockers, separate, and hold his ground. Locates the ball well and can get penetration and be disruptive in the backfield. He has a good motor and will pursue to the ball. As a pass rusher he will flash the ability to use his weapons and attack half-a-man and quickly get by. He does though need to be careful to not attack the whole man at times and get caught up. You do like that he displays the smarts to get his hands up when he realizes he can not get to the quarterback. O'Connor is a high motor kid who needs to channel some of his energy into better technique at times to maximize his abilities, but you like the way he plays the game with a violent nature and could be a productive college defender.
I have fallen behind on this so here are quite a few of the U's newest members.
Reggie Ellison-DE [espnu150]
Speed- C
Strength- B-
Pwr Move- B-
Fins Move- B
Block Shd- C+
Tyler White-DE [espnu150]
Speed- B-
Strength- C
Pwr Move- B
Fins Move- B
Block Shd- B-
Sam Thompson-MLB [espnu150]
Speed- B-
Tackle- C+
Pursuit- B-
Block Shd- B+
Billy Brown-DE [espnu150]
Speed- C
Strength- C+
Pwr Move- C+
Fins Move- B
Block Shd- B-
Anthony Strong-DE [espnu150]
Speed- C+
Strength- B-
Pwr Move- B-
Fins Move- B+
Block Shd- B+
This is on top of the #1 DE recruit in the country, Bo Smith, who was signed prior to Coach Ryby taking over the Canes.
5 defensive ends, all in ESPNU150? Good grief.
Yeah, they were all on the board already. I just had to recruit them for a couple of weeks and they all signed. It is good because my DE's are fairly weak. I see a couple of these guys that might make a nice change to a rush OLB.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
And now FSU has come from like -600 behind to -220. Granted, it's not surprising since he had a visit in Week 12, but why in the world is he moving up when I'm still stuck at -1?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
E.J. Roberts
#11 SS | #218 OVR
[4star] JUCO Jr
6'0" 180 lbs
Ruston, LA
If Roberts had more speed, he'd likely be a 5-star prospect, but even without great defensive back speed his measurables are solid and he'll make a solid contribution to the Badger 3-3-5 defense. He'll likely redshirt his first year or at most be a small contributor, however, after a year or two under his belt, he'll likely be ready to step up and play every down. Roberts chose Wisconsin over Big Ten foe Michigan.
Here's one I apparently missed a while back.
Phillip Singleton
#2 WR | #31 OVR
[5star] [espnu150]
6'0" 170 lbs
St. Anthony, ID
With the departure of WR Jeff Duckworth, the Badgers will be looking for a replacement with a reliable set of hands. Singleton comes in ready to contribute in that role and fits almost the same mold that Duckworth was in. Given a couple of years, he'll likely be able to do as well if not better than Duckworth did over his career with the Badgers. Singleton chose Wisconsin over in-state Boise State.
ive had two X2s in a row...disappointing i did not move up moreQuote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Well, that would do it. I don't think I've hit X2 since very early in the season. Maybe I'll finally hit it again in Week 14.Quote:
Originally Posted by fsuprime
PSU is done recruiting till the offseason.
That is what happens when you take my guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
Now FSU and I are both -1 on one QB, and Tommy and I are both -1 on the other QB. Both QBs are Soft Committed to Alabama, and neither has a scholarship offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
What the hell.
Well, I ran up 904 points on one and 728 on the other. If this doesn't sign either of them, well ... I'm going to be very frustrated with the way recruiting was coded.
Week 14 Top 25 Update:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
#1 Penn State
#3 Michigan
#7 USC
#9 Florida State
#10 Miami
#14 Ohio State
#19 Virginia Tech
#20 Wisconsin
Good to see Miami is moving up the rankings.
Cue frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
i had X2s 4 weeks in a row and could not pass anyone lol...yay.
I think I got three weeks of Unlocks and 1 X2. Would have much rather had the X2s, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by fsuprime
Still not committed. Ridiculous.
Final Regular Season Top 25 Update:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
#1 Penn State
#3 Michigan
#8 USC
#9 Florida State
#10 Miami
#12 Ohio State
#18 Virginia Tech
#23 Wisconsin
EDIT: Had to share this ... there are currently 1733 players that are Hard Committed to a school.
And I only have 4...two of which are 5* and 4* QB's. :smh:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Well ... there are 843 not committed??? Seriously though ... when you consider offseason recruits that's over 2600 players per recruiting class. No wonder they have to procedurally generate them rather than using pre-made classes like Madden does.
Haven't updated since Week 5 this season, so I thought I'd throw everyone I've signed this season into one post. This is Ohio State's class, of course.
Joel Jackson
#2 SS | #44 OVR
[espnu150] [4star]
Bridgetown North, OH
6'1" 171 lbs
Hard Hitter
Despite having three underclassmen at SS, Jackson's talent could not be ignored by the Ohio State recruiters. Because the Buckeyes do have significant depth at that position, it is particularly hoped that Jackson will be able to take a year off and redshirt before being needed on the field.
Quinton Johnson
#8 QB | #67 OVR
[espnu150] [4star]
Hobart, OK
6'4" 189 lbs
Balanced
With a decent arm and an above-average ability to run, Johnson was quickly a Buckeye target with the impending graduation of QB Joe Germaine and top backup QB Mark Garcia. While not the most impressive scrambler in the class, Johnson's talents mesh well with the future of the Ohio State offense.
Tyler Russell
#8 G | #79 OVR
[espnu150] [4star]
Albion, MI
6'5" 305 lbs
Balanced
Another Michigan man runs away from the home state school and crosses the border into Ohio. Russell will probably cement himself at the RG position where only Sophomore Ben Gilbert currently lines up for the Buckeyes. Russell will certainly assert himself as the starter-to-be, and is expected to make regular contributions to the line's rotation.
Chase Mitchell
#19 MLB
[4star]
Alliance, OH
6'0" 241 lbs
Balanced
Build a fence around Ohio and then go recruit nationally. That's what ESPN Head of National Recruiting Tom Luginbill says about Ohio State's recruiting strategy. While Ohio State has been losing top recruits to other area schools in recent years, the Buckeyes still fight for every Ohio prospect they can. The Buckeyes were almost stunned by MAC contender Toledo, who recruited Mitchell very hard. But in the end, the lure of Columbus was too much as the Buckeyes get another solid defensive recruit for 2013.
Jason Roberson
#21 DT
[4star]
Dublin, OH
6'4" 254 lbs
Run Stopper
Almost a carbon copy of fellow DT recruit Ty Horton, give or take 40 pounds, Roberson is another Ohio committment for the Buckeyes' defense. While lacking the speed and mobility that some schools would want out of their interior linemen, Roberson doesn't give an inch inside the trenches, and has demonstrated above-average ability to get around blocks. His tackling is impressive when you consider his lack of explosiveness, and the Buckeyes hope that Roberson can add some weight once he comes to Columbus.
T.J. Norman
#20 G
[4star]
Westlake, OH
6'5" 325 lbs
Balanced
Another depth signee, Norman was targeted to bring some reliability to the back end of the offensive line rotation. Because he needs to grow on the practice field, it is hoped that Norman will be able to redshirt in his first season in Columbus.
Ty Horton
#25 DT
[4star]
Madeira, OH
6'3" 292 lbs
Run Stopper
One reason for Ohio State's 2012 "experiment" in the 34 defense was a lack of depth up front. While the Buckeyes are confident they have enough depth for a 2013 return to the 4-2-5, the future of the defensive line is a concern. Ty Horton's early commitment to the Buckeyes does help quell some of those concerns. Horton does not have the talent necessary to immediately start at the Big Ten level, but since he has two sophomores-to-be in front of him, that shouldn't be a problem.
Scott Battle
#37 DE
[3star]
Amherst, OH
6'1" 247 lbs
Balanced
Like the Buckeyes' first commitment, Ty Horton, Scott Battle was targeted because he had expressed interest in staying in Columbus, and would fill a badly needed depth spot on the defensive line. While technically a position of need, Battle is coming in behind two sophomores-to-be in Kenny Peterson and Rodney Bailey. He's not expected to challenge either of them once he steps on campus, it is hoped that Battle can provide a solid, dependable rotation on the defensive front.
Eddie Johnson
#39 CB (JUCO - So)
[3star]
Lambertville, MI
5'9" 178 lbs
Balanced
Even the recruit himself, Eddie Johnson, would admit he's not normally the type of player that is recruited to wear scarlet and gray. Johnson benefited from a lackluster recruiting class while the Buckeyes had a position of need at defensive back. Buckeye coaches hope that his year at Junior College will help Johnson develop some of his raw physical talent. Johnson carries plenty of top end speed, but struggles a little more with his starting acceleration, and may lack the directional agility that cornerbacks need. However, he will help shore up a depleted secondary for years to come.
Thomas Galloway
#19 OLB
[3star]
League City, TX
6'0" 220 lbs
Run Stopper
Ohio State taps that black gold Texas pipeline again, landing OLB Thomas Galloway. Galloway is expected to make a contribution as early as next season at OLB, with the Buckeyes expected to return to the 4-3 defense. Galloway could use some time in the gym and on the practice field, but the linebacker depth concerns may not allow it.
D.D. Thompson
#21 OLB (JUCO - Jr)
[3star]
Winchester, VA
5'11" 209 lbs
Run Stopper
A raw physical specimen from northwest of Washington DC, Thompson is another linebacker, and another junior college transfer, that found himself at a position of need for the Buckeyes' defense. Thompson impressed on the Junior College field with his rapid acceleration, moving from strafing the line to tackling the ballcarrier in the metaphorical blink of an eye. He doesn't have quite the top end speed that Big Ten linebackers are likely to need, but Thompson's acceleration, agility, and tackling may be able to make up for that lacking quality. With the Buckeyes expected to return to the 4-3 next season, Thompson may redshirt or play depending on depth.
Rob Callahan
#27 OLB
[3star]
Sawmills, NC
6'5" 219 lbs
Run Stopper
The third, yes, third, outside linebacker committment for Ohio State is Rob Callahan. Callahan is by far the tallest linebacker coming to Columbus, but he's also the most raw. Callahan will need a lot of work on the practice field and weight room before he's ready to take the field in the Big Ten. The Rivals.com message boards have claimed that Callahan practically begged Ohio State to take him on and redshirt him, as even the young man realized he needed another year of work. Ohio State coaches, still concerned about their depth, may not have a choice.
Chris Phillips
#48 T
[3star]
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
6'3" 290 lbs
Balanced
An overlooked linemen from Canada, Phillips is the prototype of a dependable, balanced offensive line prospect. While he doesn't share the limelight with top linemen, Phillips will be a solid contributer to the Ohio State offensive line when he has an opportunity. Phillips should play a backup role for at least two seasons, possibly with one redshirt year.
Stephen Clark
#59 CB
[3star]
Mountain Brook, Alabama
6'1" 183 lbs
Hard Hitter
Clark is yet another example of adding depth at Ohio State in the 2013 class. With three cornerbacks leaving Columbus after this season, the Buckeyes were left with a solid, dependable group of corners, but no 2nd team to mass sub later in the contest. It is currently hoped that Clark will be able to stay under the radar and redshirt for one season before jumping into Big Ten competition.
Patrick Nichols
#59 T
[3star]
Dade City, FL
6'4" 327 lbs
Run Block
A truly massive big man, Nichols will probably be the 5th tackle on Ohio State's roster next season. He needs at least one or two years to turn physical talent into football talent, and right now is arguably a hinderance in the passing game. However, Nichols' skill in run blocking was too obvious to pass up, especially for a Buckeye team needing offensive line depth.
And, not that you guys care, but here's what I get to work with in A&M:
FS #4 Tate
WR #13 Lilly
DE #18 Peterson
SS #12 Broussard
FS #15 Bryant
HB #29 Patterson
DE #26 Mckinney
CB #15 Jones
CB #17 Purcell
TE #23 Lemon
CB #29 Reed
P #6 Walker
P #7 Nichols
FB #36 Campbell
Tate is extremely impressive, with A SPD and ACC, and may get a look at other positions (namely SS). Peterson will also be an interesting prospect, since he comes highly rated in Pursuit and Block Shedding. Either Jones or Purcell will be moved to FS if Tate moves to SS. None of the others are anything worth writing home about, and it's amusing that they signed two punters who are both horrible. D+ power for both. I'm going to cry if kicking recruits aren't considerably better in NCAA 12.
Don't remind me about Tate :-(
Oh, trust me, I plan to use that against you often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa LoneStar
It's about the only thing I've got going for me!
I assume I already know the answer to this ... but DT #5 Bratton, who has Miami and FSU as Top 2 schools ... he's a new Offseason recruit, right?
That he is. He should look good in orange and green.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Strange thing ... he was already on A&M's board when I switched to them. I wonder if the CPU teams are able to "add" (but not recruit) the new recruits when we advance to Offseason Week 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryby6969
If I can get this plethora of :4 star:s I added to my board, I'll be in good shape for the next few seasons. I"m hoping I get 1 out of the 2 QBs I'm going after right now.
I was gonna look at that #5 DT as a possible strongside DE....but I see I would be wasting my time if I continued recruiting him.
when has that stopped you before ;)
Through Week 2 of the Offseason
Keith Weaver
#76 DE | #917 OVR
[3star]
6'6" 202 lbs
Fort Hood, TX
Kelechi Collier
#15 QB | #170 OVR
[4star]
6'1" 183 lbs
Centerville, SC
Sean Perry
#73 WR | #457 OVR
[3star]
6'6" 205 lbs
Del Rio, TX
Kenneth Handy
#33 OLB | #993 OVR
[3star] JUCO Sophomore
6'1" 237 lbs
Washington, DC
Andre Jefferson
#97 DT | #1270 OVR
[3star] JUCO Junior
6'4" 262 lbs
Zanesville, OH
Kendall Jude
#5 FS | #105 OVR
[4star] [espnu150]
6'0" 177 lbs
Riverview, MI
Nice signing of Kendall Jude, I love his speed and ACC from the FS position. I tried to sneak on his board but had no such luck. I was hoping to RS him big time.
Another note, I have only 2 promises hidden now. I have unlocked all of them but 2, Yippie!!
They are definitely helpful. I unlocked 'em all after the 2012 regular season (McDaniel, Campbell, etc.) due to promising them a conference title their 1st year on campus during the recruiting part of the 2011 regular season. Helped big-time....I really use the top 10 and games in home state one for out-of-state recruits....big-time points.Quote:
Originally Posted by psusnoop
Considering that I have been utterly unable to use anything other than "No Redshirt" and a couple of "Solid Playing Time" promises (i.e. no "Winning record versus rivals" or conference title promises for me), I think it's pretty impressive that I've unlocked all but 3.
#5 DT Orlando Bratton is now a Cane!:nod: