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Former tOSU RB Antoniopittman: This osu tattoo stuff is silly. Cats been gettin hookups on tatts since back in 01
Probably not the best defense I've read of the situation. :D
Current Buckeye Michael Brewster is more on-target: Why couldn't we get the investigators that handled the auburn case??
:D :D :D
TonyGerdeman
Can't blame players for selling Gold Pants. It's like Scrooge McDuck's vault with those things. They're swimming in them. #Michigan #OSU
Anybody else think this is PC/marketing speak for "we know bowls make tons of money, and we want to make sure the top players can play in them". If you want to punish kids, take away the bowl, not playing Eastern Michigan.Quote:
"The policy for suspending withholding conditions (suspensions) for bowl games of NCAA championship competition recognizes the unique opportunity these events provide at the end of a season, and they are evaluated differently from a withholding perspective," Lennon said. "In this instance, the facts are consistent with the established policy."
Exactly, because they know ratings and attendance will be down if one teams' offensive stars aren't playing. As usual with the NCAA, it's about money.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
Not sure if that was directed at me but no rookie deserves that. The contracts that Stafford and Bradford got need to be reigned in. However, I do think the NFL has done a great job of spinning the "out of control" rookie contracts when it's really only the Top 5 or so that get those type of crazy contracts. Guys drafted at the end of the first round and beyond typically only get the NFL minimums for base salaries plus some incentives. The big money is all in the signing bonus and the money they get for non guaranteed contracts isn't overpaid at all once you get outside the Top 10 imo. NFL teams make out like bandits on any player drafted in the later rounds because they get paid next to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
My point about having too restrictive a cap is that it will push kids to jump too soon just to start the free agency clock. They need to boost rookie salaries based on years of college experience imo. The top draft pick in the NBA will get less than the average NBA salary. That might be OK now that the NBA draft is nothing but young kids who aren't ready - a situation the NBA helped create. But what incentive is there for a kid like Tim Duncan or Grant Hill to stay in college for 4 years? So they can jump right into the NBA, be an All-Star and make less than the 7th man on the team? The salaries on a rookie wage scale need to adjusted to allow pro-ready seniors a chance to earn more money right away.
When it comes to College Football we all know that money talks.
NFL game with a 3rd string QB manning the Vikes to victory over the Eagles garnered SEVEN times the rating of the two bowl games last night.
Playoffs anyone?
The good bowl games don't really start until New Year's. The teams in the bowl games last night wouldn't be in any form of a playoff so that doesn't really count.
I doubt that any bowl is going to come close to reaching 14 in the ratings though...
Sarkisian: The best-coached FB team we played all year was Nebraska. That would include Oregon, by the way.
The National Championship game regularly beats a 14, but that's a given. A couple Rose Bowls and the Ohio State-Notre Dame Fiesta Bowl also came close.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
But considering that Redskins/Cowboys (the opening Sunday Night game of the season) garnered a 16.6 ... well, I think comparing ratings for college football and pro football are basically apples to oranges. And you certainly can't extrapolate that and say that CFB playoffs would come anywhere close to the NFL playoffs, or even beat the BCS as it is.
All BCS games that have garnered a 13 or higher (* is championship game that wasn't called a championship game):
Code:BOWL YEAR TEAMS RATING
1. Rose Bowl 2006 Texas-USC 21.7 *
2. Orange Bowl 2001 Florida State-Oklahoma 17.8 *
3. Sugar Bowl 2000 Florida State-Virginia Tech 17.5 *
4. (tie) Championship Game 2007 Florida-Ohio State 17.4
4. (tie) Championship Game 2008 LSU-Ohio State 17.4
6. (tie) Fiesta Bowl 2003 Ohio State-Miami 17.2 *
6. (tie) Fiesta Bowl 1999 Florida State-Tennessee 17.2 *
8. Championship Game 2010 Texas-Alabama 17.17
9. Championship Game 2009 Florida-Oklahoma 15.8
10. Sugar Bowl 2004 LSU-Oklahoma 14.5 *
11. Rose Bowl 2004 Michigan-USC 14.4
12. Rose Bowl 2000 Wisconsin-Stanford 14.1
13. Rose Bowl 2001 Washington-Purdue 14.0
14. Rose Bowl 2007 USC-Michigan 13.94
15. Rose Bowl 2002 Miami-Nebraska 13.9 *
16. Orange Bowl 2005 USC-Oklahoma 13.7 *
17. Rose Bowl 1999 Wisconsin-UCLA 13.3
18. Rose Bowl 2010 Ohio State-Oregon 13.18
So three BCS bowl games the past five years that have come close that weren't a championship game.
Yep. But considering how soundly the NFL beats college football in ratings each and every week ... that's not surprising. Very few casual football fans watch random college football games.
Maryland is up 44-13 on ECU, 10:00 to go in the 4th quarter, and throwing the ball downfield.
mors, I expect to hear a rant about running up the score. And ... go.
Surreal moment ... Maryland players give Ralph Friedgen a Powerade-labeled bath (not sure what actually was in there, of course) ... and it gets wiped off with a Gatorade-sponsored towel.
Just to reinforce this with numbers ... from the 2009-10 television season:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
#1 American Idol - Tuesday (Average 22.9 million viewers)
#6 Sunday Night Football (18.7)
#78 ABC Saturday Night Football (6.2)
So the NFL is American Idol to CFB's Jay Leno or Fringe ...
The NFL is very different from college. College football is full of tradition and passion. Fan bases support a school because they are often alumni or live nearby and have a deep rooted interest and love for the school. While this makes home games special it also makes college a far more regional sport than the NFL. The NFL can market its stars like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady and sell their jerseys from coast to coast. College football can't do that. It's stars don't stay long before they leave for the NFL. So the sport focuses on the teams. That's why you will always have tremendous local TV ratings for college teams but never great national ones. A playoff wouldn't change that imo.
Plus the fact that most NFL teams are in major cities vs most college towns that are small + the alumni. Penn State has a fairly large Alumni base and it's only around 500,000 which isn't even close to a small NFL city considering there's only one under 1 million people - http://forum.playactionpools.com/index.php?topic=73.0Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Code:(in millions)
:NYJ :NYG New York 19.0
:CHI Chicago 9.6
:DAL Dallas 6.3
:PHI Philadelphia 5.8
:HOU Houston 5.7
:MIA Miami 5.4
:ATL Atlanta 5.4
:WAS Washington D.C. 5.4
:NE Boston 4.5
:DET Detroit 4.4
:ARI Phoenix 4.3
:SF :OAK San Francisco/Oakland 4.3
:SEA Seattle 3.3
:MIN Minneapolis 3.2
:SD San Diego 3.0
:STL St. Louis 2.8
:TB Tampa Bay 2.7
:BAL Baltimore 2.7
:DEN Denver 2.5
:PIT Pittsburgh 2.4
:CIN Cincinnati 2.2
:CLE Cleveland 2.1
:KC Kansas City 2.0
:IND Indianapolis 1.7
:CAR Charlotte 1.7
:TEN Nashville 1.6
:JAC Jacksonville 1.3
:NO New Orleans 1.1
:BUF Buffalo 1.1
:GB Green Bay 0.3 (112 miles north of Milwaukee 1.5 M)
Agreed, Rudy and exv.
As expected, the real news hit the fan yesterday: http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...ligible-122910Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffHCross
That is a bunch of bullshit.Quote:
Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan lobbied Ohio State University to make sure five of its football players — including star quarterback Terrelle Pryor — would not be suspended for the game against Arkansas, The Columbus Dispatch reported Wednesday.
On the upside, Tressel announced today that the five players will be elligible for next season solely because they pledged to return for their senior season: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...n.html?sid=101
LaMichael James has announced he will return to Oregon next season. I'm somewhat surprised he is staying.
I wonder if that changes if they win the National Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
One more bullet in this dead horse:
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In the out-of-whack world of NCAA rules enforcement, an athlete cannot sell his championship ring without suffering severe consequences but can pocket travel money to a bowl game. The Buckeyes' 85 scholarship players each were allotted an NCAA-approved $1,225.30 for travel expenses to New Orleans. Secure a cheap plane ticket - and some players found fares for less than $300 - or drive down, and the unused money is yours to keep.
:smh:
The NCAA is so assbackwards it's ridiculous...
The part I can't figure out is that there's a charter plane for players, coaches, and families. Two charter planes, actually. So are some of them just ... not flying charter? I guess that makes sense, but I assumed the team flew together.
I remember hearing about that a few years back, but is that rule still in effect? I thought they had tried to rectify that issue in some regard, but I am not sure on that.
cdj, not sure what you're saying. What rule?
The travel stipend issue you mentioned in post 101.
Here's what I found:
Last year Alabama declined the travel stipend and went as a team. I'd guess that the vast majority of teams travel together as well.Quote:
Most teams headed to a postseason game break for a few days, then reconvene at the bowl site for final practices and pre-game festivities. Subsequently, the NCAA offers a set dollar amount for players who travel individually, and they're allowed to pocket the difference between that number and the actual cost of the trip. This is standard procedure everywhere, including Alabama during the Tide's short trips to Louisiana for the Independence and Sugar bowls the last two seasons.
This hire is off to a great start
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NewsCenter 16 has confirmed that Mike Haywood, former Notre Dame player and offensive coordinator and newly-named Pittsburgh coach, has been arrested for domestic violence in South Bend.
St. Joseph County Police say Haywood was arrested around 2:30 p.m. on Friday at a home in the 50000 block of Hawthorne Meadow Drive.
He has a child with the woman living there.
Police say there was a custody issue and the woman attempted to leave.
As she left, police say a physical altercation broke out.
The woman told police Haywood grabbed her by the arm and neck and pushed her.
According to the police report, the woman had red marks on her neck, arms and back.
Mike Haywood was offensive coordinator at Notre Dame under Charlie Weis. He was also a running back for the Irish.
In his second season as coach of Miami of Ohio, Haywood led the Redhawks to a MAC Championship this fall.
Earlier this month, Haywood was named head coach of the University of Pittsburgh Panthers.
and when Pitt takes the field, they will come out to this song:Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BpfydZdTE0
Awesome.
So, can someone find a chart of next year's (2012) conference alignments? I need to start planning how I'm going to realign every conference (No way am I keeping TCU in the Big East! Ugh!).
Maryland has chosen UConn's Randy Edsall as head coach
per Joe Schad
Though Edsall has said that it's not a done deal, and Connecticut is saying that they don't believe he will leave. So Edsall is being targeted, but not a deal.
I think it's asking a player or a coach before or after a game when we'll know their decision on their future is really tacky. Don't ask them when that right after a game! Let 'em celebrate for a minute. The post-game interviews after the Orange Bowl were brutal to watch. Like either Luck or Harbaugh were going to tell ESPN right after the game, "Oh, I'm leaving. Thanks for asking."
It's REALLY stupid and I completely agree. Journalism now-a-days is so damn annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Just saw a posting that the Rose and Orange Bowl ratings are down 18-20%
But good for ESPN LOL, but I'm sure taking it off broadcast TV hurts...plus people are growing more and more tired of the BCS.
Rose Bowl ratings were down from last year, but up from two years ago. So your conclusion doesn't really hold water. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
In fact, the Rose Bowl set a record for ESPN for a non-NFL broadcast. Considering what ESPN's had on the air over the years, that's saying a lot.
Yeah, that was terrible. I wasn't shocked when the MNF crew droned on about it and when Tafoya asked, but was floored when Rece Davis asked Harbaugh on the trophy presentation stage. I thought he would know better, but I guess not.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
Unfortunately, I'm sure the producers were in his ear telling him to ask. I'm glad I turned it off before the presentation though, because I would have absolutely hated to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Going to cable hurt the ratings. Bowl attendance has been about the same as last year. The BCS usually gets it right. At least they don't let a team with a losing record into their two team playoff.
;)
give it time ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy