A friendly reminder - We will have a dedicated PS4 thread for discussion of console info with official details finally emerging. This thread will then morph solely into X-Box 720 rumors until Microsoft releases details on their next console.
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A friendly reminder - We will have a dedicated PS4 thread for discussion of console info with official details finally emerging. This thread will then morph solely into X-Box 720 rumors until Microsoft releases details on their next console.
Not everything. But most, yes. But there is not one ecosystem that provides all of that. Steam does, to an extent, but not like XBL does. For the simple reason that XBL has a hook into everything that is played on the console. Nothing has that hook on PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by morsdraconis
Kotaku's @stephentotilo: I still hear Durango's leaning toward "always online"
that's a BIG mistake IMHO. Rural America's internet is not up to snuff and the "culture" of that part of America isn't quite at the "I need internet 24/7; OMG; WTF; etc..." that the coasts are.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
Did anyone else want to see Major Nelson's face once the Blizzard guy came out?
So it's confirmed that there's no backwards compatibility on the PS4 and you can't even play the games you've downloaded from the Store. Hey, Microsoft, you've just been gifted a golden opportunity. It's probably best to take advantage of it.
If neither one of them supports backwards compatibility and doesn't even allow you to play arcade games you purchased through their stores, I'm going to be highly annoyed. I don't care so much about backwards compatibility, but I care a GREAT deal about the arcade games.
I don't have a ton of PS3 games so its not that big of an issue for me, on top of I am not a big replayer of past games, BUT I would still like the option of doing so, if MS doesn't have backwards compatibility that would be really questionable decision (money probably being the main culprit), what if I want to replay my Mass Effect series (which version one, I downloaded from your store) I will also be in the annoyed group.Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
Not being able to play downloaded games is a major "fuck you" by any console maker that has it set that way, and I bet they will offer the old games in the various stores for a price which would make me even more annoyed if I ever decided to replay something.
Microsoft isn't going to make it backwards compatible either man. That was the ENTIRE reason why the PS3 was so damn expensive for Sony to manufacture when it first came out. Having to have the PS2 chip in the console to emulate the old architecture apparently added somewhere in the neighborhood of $75-$100 extra to the manufacture cost of the PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
One would have to think that something similar would be needed for the new Xbox and the backwards compatibility for the 360 as it's highly unlikely that the games are going to be programmed the same with the new architecture to power the system.
As for not having access to old arcade games, I'm not sure why anyone expected anything differently. Once again, those games were programmed with specific architecture in mind and there would need to be some type of code changed for the ability to have them available on the new console. I fully expect Microsoft to not allow it as well.
Good point ^^. I don't get why people are thinking backwards is gonna happen now. Just gonna have to keep your ps3 or 360 to play the old games is all. And just hope they don't give out if it that happens go buy another should be cheaper in a few years . I know I will be those two systems for a long time just in case of old game playing. I just hope that we will be able to play online.
I don't know if they will or not. I'd have to assume they're going to use a similar architecture as what they used with the 360, so that leaves the possibility open. I pretty well knew Sony wasn't going to do it because they used the cell on PS3 and it was pretty much common knowledge the architecture was going to be MUCH different with the PS4 to make it easier to develop for.
When I say architecture being different, it's something as simple as making the game work properly with the processor and graphics card they have in the system. All the tweaks that the programmers used to make it run at 60 fps most likely won't work on the new Xbox console. Hell, the new Xbox will probably be using Directx 11, meaning quite a bit of the programming workarounds won't work anymore, thus, EVERY game that was previously available in XBLA would need to be updated by the developer and then a patch added, at the minimum. That's a LOT of money for most companies that have moved on from the game that they created.Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
Believe me man, if Microsoft is able to pull it off where they're able to allow access to the 360 XBLA content without requiring some type of streaming service to emulate the architecture of the 360, it will mean one of two things: either they spent a boat load of money in R&D getting the processor and graphics card to work the same as the processor and graphics card from the 360 (HIGHLY unlikely) or they include the previous architecture (ala PS3 and the previous cell processor for the PS1 and PS2) which means that the price of the console most likely increases (ala the PS3).
Apparently the guy that leaked the 720 dev kit/specs had his home raided by the police after complaints from MS:
http://www.itproportal.com/2013/02/2...fbi-oz-police/
Daaaaaaamn.
VGChartz is reporting that the next gen of XBOX will be revealed in April.
No. That would be the dumbest console name in recent memory.