NCAA Football 14 at E3

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Originally Posted by no1geemoney

hey when are they going to tell us what teams are on the demo

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Probably today. Not 100% sure though.

Play a season news today am u right?

I would like to say Thanks to whomever took the videos and posted them. Many of us appreciate it. Are there things I would like to see that aren't in the videos? Of course but seeing the videos just wet my appetite for the games arrival. There is enough in them to keep me interested

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

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You're making the mistake of assuming everyone wants the same game you do when in fact the vast majority of people who play this game don't. We are the minority. FACT. Everyone doesn't know real football schemes and DOESN'T CARE TO KNOW THEM! EA is trying to walk a line between implementing real life schemes & interactions while still keeping the game fun for the bulk of their fan base who truly doesn't give a shit about where a safety lines up in cover 2 against a certain formation.

Now EA is slowly getting around to many of the things we have all been asking for for quite a while and I agree with you that it probably hasn't happened quick enough for our liking but, If you think the devs who directly make the game have the say in what they get to add each year think again. Do you get the final say at your job? Doubt it.

I think there is a way to accommodate both groups at the same time & IMO the changes we are hearing about and seeing some evidence of in these videos points towards EA heading in that direction.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

(shrugs)

I wouldn't care one way or another JB. I learned nothing from watching him play. It's impossible to learn anything when the person playing doesn't do anything besides the same old cheesy bullshit that everyone else does instead of playing it like a real game. Learned nothing about defending the CPU's triple option when he stays in Dime 4-2-6 the whole time against a 3 WR Navy Set. Learned nothing about the playbook that Georgia State has because he choose some stupid multiples playbook. Learned nothing about the 4-3 Multiples and 3-4 Multiples defensive playbooks because he never chose them. Learned nothing about the CPU pass defense because he never changed the play at the line of scrimmage based on coverages and alignments. He only went 4 WR to run fuckin' 4 verts.

The ONLY thing I learned is the triple option for the CPU is still fucked because they don't give the FB the amount of touches he should be getting because EA still doesn't have enough variation on the plays that force the defense to commit to someone else on the option besides the FB. The Wings still get the ball WAY too much because the defense focuses on the inside handoff WAY more than it should, followed by immediately crashing to stop the QB, and thus allowing 12-15 yard runs with the Wingbacks. The only time the CPU was able to stop the human player running the option (granted, on default All-American), was when the human player stupidly ran it toward a side that didn't have enough blockers.

So, JB, I do take offense when someone like that provides video with nothing worth garnering from it because, clearly, he isn't as in depth with the game as I'd like him to be. Nothing is gained from 3 and 4 WR Vert plays, Big formation sweeps and off tackle plays, and all cheesy bullshit. That's not how you should be playing the game, and, if it is, you shouldn't be a gamechanger who has input on changing things in the game. It's stupid shit like that that made me stop playing against humans because people just can't stand to lose. It's great what he's doing for the community, but when that includes useless shit like these videos, I'm less appreciative of what he's doing.

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LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.

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While you're right that the majority of the people who play the game feel the way you said, the overwhelming majority here on this site do care about that stuff, myself included.

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

While you're right that the majority of the people who play the game feel the way you said, the overwhelming majority here on this site do care about that stuff, myself included.

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:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number

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Yes it is, but to sit on this site & say that "no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs" is pretty off base.

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Originally Posted by Kwizzy

Yes it is, but to sit on this site & say that "no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs" is pretty off base.

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:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

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More than one majority now :D

OS: NCAA Football 14 Equipment
http://www.operationsports.com/news/...ment-revealed/

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

LOL 90 % of the people who buy the game play the way he does/did. People just want to see color content and he provided that.Besides, who can confirm who was holding the camera/phone and who was playing the game ?

every time you look at the bottom of the main forum page you always see 3 times more guests than so called members.

the public majority just wants to come and see when is the game coming out get some colorful content and be on their merry way.
no one gives a damn about in depth analyzed football strategy stuff or AI deficient break downs.

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) point being the overwhelming majority here is still the smaller number

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

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:ram?:

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The team is working hard to make sure we can import NCAA Football 14 draft class rosters into next-gen Madden NFL 25. It has already been confirmed that you can import draft classes on current-gen this year

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While those are good signs, controlling a defensive end or tackle continues to be a disappointment. I did get a couple of sacks with a DE, but most of the time I was getting stonewalled in place, never getting a sniff at the quarterback. I had no luck at all with the DT. You can tell the blocking in the running game was worked on more than the blocking in the passing game, but that is not to say I didn't see any improvements in the pass blocking. It was just less noticeable.

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OS hands on review

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Originally Posted by ram29jackson

:) I was talking about the other larger majority obviously.

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More video on Ultimate Team. This is new to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEq15...layer_embedded

If the games are shortened to where I can get in and out like FIFA, I will give this a very fair shot.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

If the games are shortened to where I can get in and out like FIFA, I will give this a very fair shot.

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That vid finally brought this mode to my attention, looks interesting:nod:.

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Originally Posted by SCClassof93

That vid finally brought this mode to my attention, looks interesting:nod:.

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as the end showed, you can play against people online or they have a ton of games against just the AI to gain coins n cards. As the season progresses they'll add different themed games against the AI

The OS preview does raise my hopes for this game. Trying to keep my expectations low and am looking forward to the demo. Of course my wife got me The Last of Us for father's day and I'm trying to get time in for that too. #firstworldproblems

Edit: Not sure why my first read post skipped over the OS preview.