Random College Football Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by JeffHCross

Wait ... ESPN has created and runs some of the bowls? Well I'll be damned.

Don't go overboard here. It has nothing to do with the "everyone gets a trophy!" bullshit. The old requirement was 6-5. With the move to the 12 game schedule, they could have either chosen 6-6 or 7-5. They went 6-6 because of -- wait for it -- MORE MONEY!

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And that's why I personally don't think anything will come of this, ever. Those extra teams that the ACC, Big 12, Big 10, Big East, Pac-12 and SEC, along with the teams that CUSA, Mountain West, Sun Belt, MAC, and WAC are able to get into bowl games with a 6-6 record, is that much more money for the conferences and teams. I just can't see them cutting out a dozen or more bowls, cutting out the number of teams in bowl games, and just throwing all that money away. Sure it makes for great sound bites and quotes in the newspaper, but in the end, that's money that won't be coming in any more, and no way in hell would they willingly cut down on the amount of money they make/get each year.

Well, the reality is that while I'm skeptical of the claims that the BCS bowl teams are losing money (that's the "truth" but not the "whole truth"), I can't imagine that the 6-6 teams are not losing money. Those bowls don't get shit for attendance. The teams, and the bowls themselves, have to be hemorrhaging money.

WVU lost something in the neighborhood of $250,000 by playing in the Orange Bowl (on a fuckin' Wednesday) because of the lost revenue from HAVING to buy 25,000 tickets or some shit (of which, we sold like half of through our school's ticket department). Very few bowl games are actually productive for teams. It's just the nature of it, sadly.

Yeah. teams and the bowls themselves are hemorrhaging money. But the conferences, with the more teams making bowl games the better, are getting some good payouts from all the bowl games. I forget how much it was the Big Ten, SEC, etc made this past year with all the bowl payouts.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

WVU lost something in the neighborhood of $250,000 by playing in the Orange Bowl (on a fuckin' Wednesday) because of the lost revenue from HAVING to buy 25,000 tickets or some shit (of which, we sold like half of through our school's ticket department). Very few bowl games are actually productive for teams. It's just the nature of it, sadly.

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Not necessarily true. Ohio State reported the same for last year's Sugar Bowl, but that didn't factor in the money that we get from the Big Ten through shared bowl revenue. So we made money, but all the reports said we lost.

Wednesday is going to be very interesting.

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Originally Posted by JeffHCross

Wednesday is going to be very interesting.

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Nebraska NCAA Violations: NCAA Puts School On Probation In Illegal Textbooks Case

LINCOLN, Neb. -- The NCAA put Nebraska on two years' probation and endorsed the school's self-imposed fine of $38,000 on Wednesday as part of an impermissible benefits case involving textbooks and school supplies.

The NCAA spared Nebraska a stiffer punishment for what the Division I Committee on Infractions determined to be major violations across multiple sports over multiple years.

Nebraska reported the problem and last July acknowledged that it had improperly distributed nearly $28,000 in textbooks and other school supplies to athletes from 2007-10.

The school initially proposed that the athletic department pay a fine of $28,000. Athletic department spokesman Keith Mann said the university bookstore is adding $10,000 to the amount because it believed it shared culpability. The $38,000 will be donated to local charities and the probation will run through Jan. 31, 2014.

"We are pleased the NCAA chose to accept our self-imposed penalties without additional sanctions," athletic director Tom Osborne said in a statement. "We are also pleased that the NCAA Committee on Infractions noted there was no intent to violate NCAA rules and no members of our coaching staffs were involved in the matter. We regret that this violation occurred."

The NCAA allows schools to cover the cost of required course textbooks in athletic scholarships but not extra, professor-recommended books. Nebraska said it uncovered the violation on its own and determined that 492 athletes in 19 sports received books and supplies that were not required.

Individual athletes received a benefit ranging from approximately $580 to incidental amounts, the NCAA said. Because the violations included a large number of student-athletes and sports over portions of five academic years, the university agreed it failed to monitor its program.

Osborne said the athletic department failed to properly communicate with the bookstore concerning the NCAA rule regarding the use of athletic department funds for the purchase of required and recommended textbooks.

"We have taken corrective measures to ensure a violation of this type does not happen again," Osborne said.

Nebraska said in its report to the NCAA that there was no intentional wrongdoing, monetary reward or competitive advantage gained by the athletes involved.

The school said the average extra benefit was less than $60 per athlete. The total value was calculated by taking the cost of the book when purchased, minus the amount refunded to athletics when the books were returned.

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Great job, NCAA. O-lie-o is still laughing all the way to the bank.

Until this news came out, I didn't know that schools were not allowed to provide 'recommended' textbooks to student-athletes. That seems to be hypocritical in the claims that they are 'student-athletes.' I understand not every school can afford it, but for those that can, why should the NCAA punish everyone? (I say that as someone who typically doesn't criticize the NCAA often.)

The two-year probation and fine increase seems a bit much. Unless players were pocketing the money for reselling the books (the last sentence implies the money went back to the Ath. Dept.), I fail to see how this is a big deal.

I can't imagine that some five-star prospect is going to get swayed to come to Nebraska over USC, Texas, etc. because the Huskers are going to give him extra textbooks. :fp: That seems like the last thing on the mind of an 18-year old - and I'm pretty sure the school wasn't using it to any sort of advantage. There are some dolts in the Athletic Department and I'm guessing someone there fell asleep as the article implies. Fire the boob and move on.

So Les Miles is all butthurt that Gunner Kiel went to Notre Dame instead.

Recruiting is tougher than it looks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...015506961.html


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Considering I have had Chik-fil-a before and live in an area that doesn't have one. I understand :nod:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...recruit-020112

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Considering I have had Chik-fil-a before and live in an area that doesn't have one. I understand :nod:

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Personally I think Chik-fil-a is overrated. The sandwich is good but it's way overpriced and I have to eat like 4 sandwiches just to be full.

Chik-fil-a sucks ass. Give me Wendys' Spicy Chicken Sandwich any day over Chik-fil-a.

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Originally Posted by morsdraconis

Chik-fil-a sucks ass. Give me Wendys' Spicy Chicken Sandwich any day over Chik-fil-a.

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I could eat one of those right now. And aren't they only .99?

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Originally Posted by psuexv

I could eat one of those right now. And aren't they only .99?

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Nah, the spicy ones are the ones that are $3.40 or somethin' but for ~$7.00 you can get a large size fry and drink with it and you're golden.

If you haven't done it before, get it plain with some Wendys barbeque sauce on the side (which you promptly put on it). Makes it that much hotter and it fuckin' tastes AWESOME.

How does everyone feel about their school's recruiting class? I am very excited at the kids we are bringing in. I think there could be some nice sleepers in our group.

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Originally Posted by cdj

Until this news came out, I didn't know that schools were not allowed to provide 'recommended' textbooks to student-athletes. That seems to be hypocritical in the claims that they are 'student-athletes.' I understand not every school can afford it, but for those that can, why should the NCAA punish everyone? (I say that as someone who typically doesn't criticize the NCAA often.)

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Oh. My. God. That is ridiculous.

The fine I understand, simply because it's basically tit-for-tat. Okay, fine. The two year probation is ridiculous. Calling it a MAJOR VIOLATION is utterly ridiculous.

But getting back to the original thing ... they can't pay for the "recommended" books? Some classes that's all you have. And the "recommended" books are really the textbooks! Utter ridiculousness.

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Originally Posted by JBHuskers

Considering I have had Chik-fil-a before and live in an area that doesn't have one. I understand :nod:

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I still can't eat any more nuggets.

This just makes the Nebraska ruling even better, courtesy of the New York Times:

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After outlining the violations and the punishment (including “public reprimand and censure!”), it adds a side note that reads, in part, “N.C.A.A. President Mark Emmert and members have recognized that numerous rules, such as those stating athletic scholarships can be used to purchase mandatory but not ‘recommended’ textbooks, are overly prescriptive and do not support our values.”

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Well, this certainly doesn't help the whole EA/NCAA likeness lawsuit thing ...

Spoiler: show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMsqzw8ci3o

I don't know why, but watching that video is really making me want to play with Washington. While I have no set path in the career of my coach in my CC dynasty, if a coaching position with Washington comes up in the future, and my coaching rules allow me to leave for it at that time, I might have to make the jump to Washington sometime in the future of my CC dyansty, since I doubt I'll hang around at FIU forever, even with as much fun (at least in the first two seasons of the dynasty) as they are to play with.

Whoa. West Virginia just cancelled their September 8th game at Florida State. Mors, any word as to why? Conflict with Big 12 scheduling (WVU makes the move next year, don't they?) or some other reason for the cancellation?

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Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes

Whoa. West Virginia just cancelled their September 8th game at Florida State. Mors, any word as to why? Conflict with Big 12 scheduling (WVU makes the move next year, don't they?) or some other reason for the cancellation?

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No conflict with the Big 12 schedule, but, basically, like with the Big East now, when WVU goes to the Big 12, it's going to be a lopsided schedule (4 home, 5 away one year and 5 home, 4 away the next) so, instead of losing $2 million for the buyout against JMU next year at Fedex Field, they decided to drop the FSU away game for a chance at another home game (against ECU, if I'm not mistaken).

Unfortunately, I don't like the call that they made to drop the game, but, at the same time, I understand their reasoning for dropping the game. It just looks poor on our part, but we'll see. Maybe we'll push it back to 2014 and do the away game in 2013 (when we were supposed to do the home game) and do the home game in 2014. At least, I hope so.

LSU women's soccer goalie Mo Isom is going to be invited to try out for place kicker on the LSU football squad. :drool: :drool: :drool:

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double-tap, please delete this one.

Here you go, JB:
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ROFL: http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011...ecoming-queen/

Please let her on the team just so I can see her in tight football pants mmm. Haha never thought thhe words tight football pants would be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by DariusLock

Please let her on the team just so I can see her in tight football pants mmm. Haha never thought thhe words tight football pants would be a good thing.

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just imagine if lsu plays in the rain......

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Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp

just imagine if lsu plays in the rain......

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Okay, I wasn't going to say it, but since you guys are being worse pervs than me ...

Early NCAA 14 cover favorite. Duh.

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Originally Posted by JeffHCross

Okay, I wasn't going to say it, but since you guys are being worse pervs than me ...

Early NCAA 14 cover favorite. Duh.

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:nod::nod::easy::popcorn:

Late last year, The Atlantic had a cover story on "The Shame of College Sports". I'll admit that the article is biased, and probably a good bit of the anecdotes and stories within it are only mentioned to serve the greater narrative. That said, it is extremely well-written, and could be eye-opening on how you perceive the NCAA.

WARNING: Mors, you probably shouldn't read this. Your rant would presumably be quite epic.
WARNING: Also, it's quite long. I'm only about halfway through it now.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true

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Originally Posted by JeffHCross

Late last year, The Atlantic had a cover story on "The Shame of College Sports". I'll admit that the article is biased, and probably a good bit of the anecdotes and stories within it are only mentioned to serve the greater narrative. That said, it is extremely well-written, and could be eye-opening on how you perceive the NCAA.

WARNING: Mors, you probably shouldn't read this. Your rant would presumably be quite epic.
WARNING: Also, it's quite long. I'm only about halfway through it now.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true

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Wait, shouldn't that be a reason for why he should read it? :D

Ah, excellent. Something to read at work during downtime. :up:

please take the survey and let your opinion be known on what you think of the bcs format. completely anonymous too.

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Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp

please take the survey and let your opinion be known on what you think of the bcs format. completely anonymous too.

https://qtrial.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_9GKIV9MM4Sys1ik

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Interesting stuff. I filled it out. Will be interesting to see if anything actually becomes of this survey. I doubt it myself, but we'll see.

Previewing the Eastern State Timberwolves